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Let's say you get a job offer from company A. They are going to pay you $80,000 annually and including benefits you will get 2 weeks vacation a year. You accept the offer and sign a contract. Then a couple days later company B calls and is offering $100,000 annually and 4 weeks vaction. What do you do? Stay with company A since you signed a contract or call company A. and tell them you received a better offer and you are going to work for company B. If you stay with company A. well you are more loyal than most. If you break the contract and sign with company B. you are no better than Lamar. Please do email Dr Simmons. I'd love to hear if he bothered to reply. You are entitled to your opinion but that is why they have a buyout clause in the contract. It happens all the time in college athletics. BTW, mffl, JJWooten and coachacola seem to agree with me. You might like to re-read the post. You and Puddin are the only ones who have posted negative reactions to Coach Tidwell dropping SD.

Has anyone heard anything about Lamar buying the library and renovating it into classroom? I found it on another board. [Hidden Content]

Just my opinion but in the future Lamar should build a natatorium on the McDonald Gym side of the Rec Center and move Ty Terrell track to where the soccer stadium is. They could built a really nice facility for both sports. The track should have lights so students and athletes can use it at night. I personally don't like the way the stands are at the present location. Look at UT, they have one complex for both sports (soccer and track) [Hidden Content] Plus, they could add parking for students near academic buildings.

I'm sure there have been talks between the city of Beaumont and Lamar about hoisting this event. Makes me wonder if the rumors about going to a FBS anytime soon is accurate. I don't see Beaumont as a player for the SLC MBB/WBB tournament if Lamar isn't in the SLC.

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="968227" timestamp="1298049138"] I see us as the 3rd or 4th team in the conference. Better than last year but not the best. Just need to get hot at the right time. [/quote] Agreed, we have two of our weekend pitchers back and the whole infield. However, we have a big bat to fill in Moore.

Well, if I have to choose which one I want to win it is the SLC tournament championship because only once has two teams from the SLC made it to regionals the same year.

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="968056" timestamp="1298000257"] Shame on Lamar... All indications are that they failed to properly notify South Dakota of their change of plans. Very SWAC-like. Prairie View A&M released a schedule [b]after[/b] SHSU did and did not inform SHSU of the change. Did USD get caught off-guard? That's what I want to know and that is what if you read between the lines, occurred. If Lamar announced the schedule without telling South Dakota, they are in the wrong and there's no ifs, ands or buts about it. Have no problem with pulling out and paying the buyout, but that's a communication fallacy. [/quote] You don't know the facts Texas Terror. Who do you think made the call at Lamar A. Coach Woodard or B. the AD Coach Tidwell. Well, the correct answer is B. Coach Tidwell wanted another Sept. game at home for the football team. You or anyone else who doesn't like the call he made, then look up his # or email him.

Congratulations Coach and Mrs Tubbs.

Thanks.

No, but he broke it in junior college before and has already red-shirted once.

Cards, sorry I stated I didn't have summer session information. But, if you are going to use my grossly inflated numbers then stay with the $6 as a possible athletic fee. BTW, you act like only in the summer do students go part-time. Of the 13,930 this semester, there are several hundred that are part-time students. Now, heck I'll go with a 1/2 of the current credit hrs for the whole summer, both sessions. That would be 69818 x 6 = 418908. Then add it to the Fall/Spring numbers we can agree on which was $1.675 million or something pretty close. 1675000 + 418908 = $2,093,908 Now, I don't think I clearly stated my case about the athletic fee. It would fund all the sports and athletic administrators except football. There are 14 people just in the AD department. If we go to a FBS conference they all especially Coach Tidwell will get a raise. Add in media relations, video coordinator, ticket manager, athletic trainers, sports performance and we have yet to get to our first sport. Now, add MBB/WBB, baseball and all the non-revenue producting sports and their budgets. Travel alone in the WAC will drive up the budgets. Then the coaching staffs need to have competitive salaries and the recruiting budgets just went up. Then the facilites across the board need an upgrade and we have to add two female sports and facilities for them. You are talking a lot of money and the student athletic fee will be just a drop in the bucket. I agree with you, North and coach about funding football. First there is a jump from 63 scholarships to 85. Then at the FBS level you have one head coach, 9 assistants and 2 grad assistants. The stength and conditioning coaches are not included in these numbers. All their salaries will be higher than they are now. The stadium will need to be renovated again to be competitive with other FBS schools especially in the conference Lamar is participating in. I can go on and on about this subject. If Lamar wants to go FBS then we need more than student fees to fund it. Like yall stated we'll need annual donations in the millions from alumni, friends of the university, donation and advertizing from corporations and Lamar has to put a winning product on the field for more suites, several thousand season ticket holders, growth in the cardinal club membership and so on. The total athletic and football budget has to be at least $15 million.

[quote name="Cards R Us" post="967266" timestamp="1297886854"] 360, you're partially correct about TXST.  Currently they're paying $14 but they're increasing by $2 every year so that in 2013/14 they'll be paying $20 per hour (up from $10/hr in 2008).  That being said, the same percentage increase would have to occur at Lamar, from $8.75 to roughly $18/hr just to generate another $2.6 million.  The numbers don't lie, $6 is not enough.  Lamar students taking a normal (12-15 hour) course load would see tuition costs rise roughly $100-125 per semester. [/quote] Cards, your numbers aren't correct if enrollment keeps going up at Lamar. Last fall we set a record for enrollment and this semester we set one for credit hrs. I can't tell you why our football fee has only generated $2.6 million with our credit hrs where they are. However, I can add credit hrs this spring which are 139,636 x 6 = 837816. Then double it for a rough estament for the fall 139,636 x 6 = 837816 x 2 =  1675632. Now, I've look at the Lamar website and can't find anything about credit hrs for summer sessions. However, I feel safe to say it is at least half the fall and spring semesters. So, I'll use 69818 x 6 = 418908. Then there are two summer sessions so 418908 x 2 = 837816. Add all the totals and it is $2,513,448 for the year. Please show me where the error is in my addition?

Dude the fees in the summer are only $4.50 and yes, although I'm not great at math I can use a calculator and add numbers. No, I don't want Lamar students to pay $20 per credit hr. I was just showing what the competition at schools currently in the SLC about to jump to the WAC are doing with student fees.   Those are current numbers you are using with that link. I'm pretty sure they are jumping to $20 per credit hr.

First off this is the same arguement, the football fee faced when it was voted on back in Jan. 2008. "This will raise how much we are paying now." or "The football program was killed for a reason back in 1989 and there will be no support and the program will just be eliminated again." Then the football fee passed with 79% of the vote. That isn't just barely passing. It is more like a landslide. The increase was for $8.75 for fall and spring semesters and $4.50 for summer sessions. [Hidden Content] If the athletic fee is for as much as $6 per credit hr based on this spring enrollment with credit hrs at 139,636 that would be an additional $837,816 for just this semester. For a student with 12 hrs, that would be an additional $72 he/she would pay. Now, you know the vast majority of the time the fall semesters have the highest numbers of students that is why they have a record for spring enrollment and fall enrollment. However, just for the sake of debate I'll use the same 139,636 for the fall. That is another $837,816 if the athletic fee was as much as $6 per credit hr. Just the spring and fall added together that is roughly $1.7 million and that isn't including two summer sessions. I can't find any figures for summer sessions but I'm confident an additional $800,000 could be added to make the net for the whole year roughly $2.5 million. Now, I'm not sure if the students will have to vote on this athletic fee or not. I'm sure you or someone else would know. However, it only needs 51% to pass but I think before they would apply it Dr. Simmons would want the athletic fee to pass at around 60%. So in summary, the total football and athletic fees could be as little as $14.75 per credit hr each spring and fall semester. I can't give you numbers on the summer sessions because I have no credit hrs to use. Texas State and UTSA students are paying about $20 per credit hr for athletic fees. Go figure.

[quote name="Cards R Us" post="963499" timestamp="1297266825"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=79479.msg963489#msg963489 date=1297265461] [quote author=Cards R Us link=topic=79479.msg963485#msg963485 date=1297265063] [quote author=Texantagonise link=topic=79479.msg963470#msg963470 date=1297262217] [quote author=TexasTerror link=topic=79479.msg962984#msg962984 date=1297199655] Update on WAC... [Hidden Content] [/quote] After reading that article, Lamar is a LOCK.  Nobody else wants to join the WAC.  ;D [/quote] Irony...nobody WANTS to join the WAC, teams within the WAC are trying and have tried to get out (Utah State and San Jose State) and yet Lamar is a LOCK to get in?  What is that saying about the conference landscape and where Lamar stands? [/quote] The Cali schools don't have the money to join the WAC that's why some of them don't want to join the WAC.  Seattle U does want to join the WAC although they don't have football.  Schools that are already FBS don't want to join the WAC because they have no reason to.  And if you think the SLC is better than the WAC then you really do want Lamar to stay small and invisible in the college sports world. [/quote] The CALI schools don't have the money to join the WAC but Lamar does?  I personally would love for Lamar to jump to the WAC so that I could see better schools play at home and watch the school have a chance to play in a bowl game.  I've been waiting patiently for Lamar football to return for years, and I don't want to see the team mired at the bottom of another conference facing big losses in its first few seasons.  Maybe some of us are old enough to remember what happened twenty years ago when it was LOSING SEASONS that caused attendance to drop off and the team to fold. I know that the landscape is different now, but where are the resources to fund this move?  Where is the money?  Where is the planning? [/quote] Recently, at a TSUS meeting Lamar ask for approval of an athletic fee. If that is approved and it brings in another $2-3 million a year that would help with the "where is the money" and the athletic budget. Also, I've heard Lamar as a few people with money lined up to make a few large donations if we move to a FBS conferece. The later is just rumor for now. [Hidden Content]

The only way you can't see us going 8-3 JJ is because you don't think we can beat SHSU, right? Otherwise, these are the W's I think we "can" have. [b]Langston University [/b] WIN at South Alabama LOSS [b]Incarnate Word [/b] WIN at Southeastern La* WIN [b]Northwestern St[/b].* WIN at Texas St. LOSS [b]C. Arkansas[/b]* WIN at Sam Houston St.* WIN [b]Stephen F. Austin[/b]* LOSS at Nicholls St.* WIN [b]McNeese St[/b].* WIN I'm not saying we will win all these games but I do think it is possible.  

Northwestern State has a history of being good; although down for a few years. Last year they were very competitive in the SLC. I've been to a few practices and several of our guys look a lot bigger and faster. I can't say they are stronger as I haven't seen a real scrimmage yet. We will be heavy with seniors who have been part of a team for a few years (even though we've only played one season). I can see us being up there where Puddin thinks at 8-3 or another 5-6 season. I think a lot has to do with the O and D line and if we can develop a running game to help the defense by keeping them on the sidelines for several minutes at a time; by having long drives instead of a few long throws and a quick score or going three and out on several possessions. JMHO

North, I was just speculating about the court being named after Coach Tubbs. I have no inside knowledge of this being factual. Sorry if I miss lead ya. It would have been better to say the court "should" be named after Coach Tubbs.

Now, isn't this more fun than watching the men blow double digit leads.  ;)

Hit the FT's and we come home with a hard earned W.

Stay focused, hit FT's, defend and get out of Louisiana with a W.

[quote name="bigredfan2" post="965398" timestamp="1297551370"] Taylor Hayes has 11 pts off the bench.  Go Taylor!!! [/quote] Taylor Hayes can shoot the rock. Please play some defense!

I don't see Coach Tidwell blowing a double digit lead with under 8 minutes to go.

Well, that is better than the first half. Now we got to play smart on offense, play hard on both ends, defend and rebound!

They are playing with confidence at home. Lamar is by far the better team but without Loyd we aren't playing too well. How is the TO bug for the lady cards in the second half?