bigred360

Your doing a great job keeping us updated. Heck, I'm in Merryville, La and can't get KLVI. Thanks.

How much time left in the half?

Gotta play some defense as they've scored a few points pretty quick.

James already has two dunks and he is 6-1.  8)

Coach, have you found anything about when renovations are starting on the Beck? Also, when will we start construction of a softball complex?

Man, isn't early but up 10. We need to learn to put teams away!

So Adams and James are in at the same time?

Yea, but he can't count on that type of shooting on the road. We need to get to the basket and get fouled.

Is Brazier starting? Just wondering with Harper out.

That is terrible. Is it Harris or James again?

[quote name="Green Menace" post="949824" timestamp="1295296553"] The bottom line in all these FBS/stadium expansion/play the big boys discussions is this, very few athletic departments in FBS make money.  Not sure what the number is now, but at one time less than 20 FBS programs made money.  It does, however, elevate your univeristy to a different level, especially if you are on TV or participate in a bowl.  In theory, the national exposure means more alumni contributions to the academic side. [/quote] True, I believe coachacola posted something with that information given. However, a strong athletic program leads to more participation by the student body. Increase in student enrollment which leads to more aid from the state, more credit hours and so on. Like you stated with a successful athletic department there are more gifts to the university for athletics and academics from the alumni. Then there is more national exposure from getting into the NCAA tournaments in various sports and bowl games. So, you can lose money and still be better off on the academic side by going FBS. You stated only 20 FBS programs make money. I bet it is even less at the FCS level. On 5/3/08, Lamar announced it's $100 million campaign and today we are almost 3/4 to the goal as it stands now at $73,841,168. Football was brought back after the students vote to approve a football fee on 2/1/08.

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="949797" timestamp="1295292563"] I think yall are missing the point. Either way, these neutral site home games or flat out road games pay 20 times more than any game we would get in the Southland. Either of those games would significantly benefit Lamar. But for that to ever happen we would have to he in the WAC. [/quote] Totally agree with that statement and I'm not saying UNLV is wrong. As I don't know what the gross and net profit would be playing in Houston at Reliant with tickets, parking, concessions and etc. against a Big XII team and what their share of the profit would be. Playing in Austin or College Station you know what the profit is because it is a guarantee game. You are going to make more money as a FBS school playing at one of the elite programs than you would as a FCS school. That is just one of the benefits of going FBS in football.

Let's see if I can answer these. Nope. Nope. Probably. Don't hide. Don't expect to win just play hard. I think I got it.

Couple of things standout in the article. One only 25,000 tickets were sold at Ford Field and they were giving others away. Two, Coach Schnellenber talking about moving from a 20,000 seat stadium to a beautiful 30,000 seat stadium in middle of the FAU campus.

A Lamar loss by 10 on the road. Plus, Lamar will be without the services of Charlie Harper again. Hope I'm wrong.

Looks like TCU stadium will hold 40K with future expansion of 10k possible. [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content]

[quote name="UNLV" post="949741" timestamp="1295283703"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=78846.msg949710#msg949710 date=1295278493] Really, to make $900,000 at Reliant or some other neutral site I'm wrong. There would need to be at least 50,000 fan's and the average ticket would need to cost $18 dollars. This is just to get to $900,000. That isn't paying a rental fee for the use of Reliant Stadium or as a lot of colleges do. Pay for the traveling cost of the visiting team. [/quote]Fans from Austin, 5 million in Houston, and several thousands from SETX would yield more than 50,000 at Reliant. Funny how you twist the numbers down and leave out concessions and parking and advertising. Your formula would have bankrupt the Texans long ago. And the huge recruiting plus gained by Lamar in the Houston area has no price. [/quote] So, you want a home game where the other team out draws the Cardinals? Man, I'm not trying to twist anything. I'd love for Lamar to have a fan base to draw 50,000. I didn't think about concessions, parking or advertising. I'm a nurse not an accountant. If we get beat by 50 there will be no recruiting plus. Why do you think Coach Woodard didn't want the SFA game on TV?

One a year wouldn't hurt the program. Now, scheduling 3 or 4 would be a different story.

[quote name="Green Menace" post="949709" timestamp="1295278475"] Which programs in the state of Texas have ever had 50,000+ fans in the stands for a football game?  Texas, Texas A & M, and Texas Tech.  The big dogs of the Old SWC and now the B12-10.  Sure, if you have a stadium that can hold 50K and you can get one of those programs to grace your campus, you'll fill the stadium up-  with aggie$, whorns, or raider fans. As fine a program as TCU has developed over the past 10-12 years, the average about 32-35K fans per home game, depending on their opponent.  That may change for TCU now that they will move to the big East.  But I doubt it.  Rice only gets large crowds when Texas or the Aggie$ come to town, and 90% of the fans are horns or aggies which makes it a home game for them.  Same for Houston. On top of that, enlarging Cardinal Stadium to 50K will cost mucho money, so you better have a Daddy Warbucks or two to cover the cost. Not trying to keep you guys down, but ya'll need to be reasonable. [/quote] TCU is renovating their stadium and I believe max capacity is 35,000. Then what is UNT new stadium going to hold? About 30,000, right? Houston's stadium holds 32,000. Lamar would do good to have a 30,000 stadium with several suites, rooms to showcase Lamar football and a multiple level press box that is user friendly to the press and SID's for Lamar and the visiting schools.

Really, to make $900,000 at Reliant or some other neutral site. There would need to be at least 50,000 fan's and the average ticket would need to cost $18 dollars. This is just to get to $900,000. That isn't paying a rental fee for the use of Reliant Stadium or as a lot of colleges do. Pay for the traveling cost of the visiting team.

I know that would be cool to say we hoisted UT or A&M at a neutral site but I'd rather play at their place with a guarantee of about $900,000.

[quote name="AJ25" post="949593" timestamp="1295234552"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=78804.msg949588#msg949588 date=1295233007] At UNLV we had each dorm organize trips to the game. We would march to the Thomas and Mack as a group. We did the same thing for football. We'll we didn't march to Sam Boyd, those without cars took the city bus. It was fun going as a group.  [/quote] That's the kind of stuff that college is about.. That is one downside to Lamar.. You don't get the right "college" feel because it is a commuter campus. If more people lived on campus, the school would make more money, more activities would take place, better crowds, etc... Does Lamar have any rules with having to live on campus? I know some schools make freshman HAVE to live on campus their first year. Or you have to spend like 30 hours of your degree living on campus. If Lamar did that, a lot of things would change. [/quote] [b]More than 2,200 students live in campus residence halls, compared to 600 in 2000. The 500 additional beds in Phase 4 of Cardinal Village, completed this month, filled quickly. Private housing near campus brings the total to about 3,500. [Hidden Content]] This is from 2007-2008 academic year. So, with phase 5 there are over 4,000 students living on or near campus. If someone wishes to find something more updated about on campus housing it would be appreciated.

Pat Foster was at Lamar for 6 years and made either the NCAA or NIT Tournament every year. [Hidden Content]

I've got a friend in the athletic department at Texas State and they are trying like heck to get the students out for all of the athletic programs. It isn't just about football as for the size of their student body they have poor attendance for all athletic programs.

[quote name="puddin tane" post="949373" timestamp="1295211590"] for the FIRST YEAR BACK IN OVER 20 YEARS...the last T[u]WO[/u] home games were poorly attended [size=10pt]i saw similar posted on la tech board..think its fitting[/size] [i]"I wear my Lamar shirt because I went there, he wears his LSU shirt cuz he went to walmart"[/i] and that, in a nutshell, is your LU problem [/quote] I was at the last home game with my family and there were over 15k there. The stadium holds 16k but there were a lot of students sitting in the grassy area near the athletic complex. Wasn't a sellout like the first few were but it was a nice crowd for a 4-6 team at the time.