Betrayed

[quote name="ford15" post="861149" timestamp="1285807043"] Swag, like the saying goes" you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it". [/quote]IF you call me Cassius Clay,  >:( I mean Swag 1 more time!!  >:( 

What league will be considered "The Best" if there's 1?? Or how would ya'll rank them 1,2,3

[quote name="stevenash" post="860991" timestamp="1285797376"] [quote author=Scalabrine link=topic=73010.msg860961#msg860961 date=1285794270] [quote author=Puma link=topic=73010.msg860814#msg860814 date=1285783381] Scalabrine - You sure are critical of HJ and their coaching staff.  [color=red][size=10pt]It is one thing to go onto a public forum and share your opinions but you seem to really have an axe to grind with the HJ coaching staff and the way playing time is decided.[/size][/color]  It is easy to sit back and be critical of a coach whose every decision is on public display.  I wonder what the HJ coaching staff or anybody else for that matter would say about your decision making at your job - it would be like people throwing rocks at you while your trying to mow. [/quote]Never have i questioned Hj's coaching staff decisions!! Show me a post where i did that. Certain people have wrote that and assumed that but never have i said that. I have disagreed with plenty of Hj posters on here, and the only thing i directly said about Hj is that they don't help certain players after Bball season. [/quote] Are you going to deny that you have maligned(that means bad mouthed) the HJ coaching staff? [/quote]Nope. I never posted any untrue statements about that staff. Check my posts. I often disagreed about alot of things u people were bragging on(Best coaches, Best this and Best that)  Let me reiterate (thats means to state or do over, repeatedly) I often said that Hj don't put enuff effort in trying to get certain players to the next level. (Particularly their most recent All-State Players)

[quote name="Puma" post="860814" timestamp="1285783381"] Scalabrine - You sure are critical of HJ and their coaching staff.  [color=red][size=10pt]It is one thing to go onto a public forum and share your opinions but you seem to really have an axe to grind with the HJ coaching staff and the way playing time is decided.[/size][/color]  It is easy to sit back and be critical of a coach whose every decision is on public display.  I wonder what the HJ coaching staff or anybody else for that matter would say about your decision making at your job - it would be like people throwing rocks at you while your trying to mow. [/quote]Never have i questioned Hj's coaching staff decisions!! Show me a post where i did that. Certain people have wrote that and assumed that but never have i said that. I have disagreed with plenty of Hj posters on here, and the only thing i directly said about Hj is that they don't help certain players after Bball season.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="860655" timestamp="1285772743"] [quote author=Scalabrine link=topic=73586.msg860633#msg860633 date=1285771196] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=73586.msg860494#msg860494 date=1285732813] [quote author=bbfan1955 link=topic=73586.msg860419#msg860419 date=1285725206] AND WHEN WE WERE IN HARDIN JEFFERSON DIST. THEY COULD NEVER GET PAST KOUNTZE [/quote] That is what Kountze thought last year also........ ;D ;D ;D Kountze has been a power house and there is no denying that.................but owning basketball is a bit much.  Ozen, HJ and Silsbee have all either won state championships and or been to the state tourney several times in the same 15 year time period. I will agree that they have owned 2A basketball in this area for 15 years!!!! [/quote]And 3a, when Green and Sutherland was there [/quote] But since the current coach is at Kountze they have not beat HJ one time.........go figure!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) [/quote]Do we need to go back down memory lane so i can tell you why??

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="860658" timestamp="1285772784"] [quote author=Scalabrine link=topic=73586.msg860634#msg860634 date=1285771243] [quote author=bbfan1955 link=topic=73586.msg860419#msg860419 date=1285725206] AND WHEN WE WERE IN HARDIN JEFFERSON DIST. THEY COULD NEVER GET PAST KOUNTZE [/quote]Right On [/quote] Hey $wag, I mean Scalabrine!!!!! ;D ;D ;D [/quote]Stop it dude. Im trying to clean my image ;)

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[quote name="MoFo" post="860636" timestamp="1285771468"] Wow Trashman for someone who quote "does not focus on 11 year olds" you sure are caught up in this thread. Also how are the "Rumors if we OPENLY say we have Lumberton kids on our team???? So sorry the STJFL does not allow 7th graders to play. Your loss is our gain. By the way me and my kids live in Beaumont my wife teaches in HJISD just to get that out in the open also. As far as wanting to leave because of decreasing athletic department???? [size=12pt][color=red]I have no clue what you are talking about my family and I love the HJISD mainly for its educational oppurtunities we could care less about a great or poor athletic department. I will assure you my kids are not shooting to be pro athletes but rather model citizens with a good education.[/color][/size] As I stated before there are ALL kinds of living and school arraingments that are not perfectly in line. Sorry that you have such tunnel vision. I wish we where all perfect like you but I guess some of us are not as blessed. [/quote]That's Deep!!

[quote name="bbfan1955" post="860419" timestamp="1285725206"] AND WHEN WE WERE IN HARDIN JEFFERSON DIST. THEY COULD NEVER GET PAST KOUNTZE [/quote]Right On

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="860494" timestamp="1285732813"] [quote author=bbfan1955 link=topic=73586.msg860419#msg860419 date=1285725206] AND WHEN WE WERE IN HARDIN JEFFERSON DIST. THEY COULD NEVER GET PAST KOUNTZE [/quote] That is what Kountze thought last year also........ ;D ;D ;D Kountze has been a power house and there is no denying that.................but owning basketball is a bit much.  Ozen, HJ and Silsbee have all either won state championships and or been to the state tourney several times in the same 15 year time period. I will agree that they have owned 2A basketball in this area for 15 years!!!! [/quote]And 3a, when Green and Sutherland was there

[quote name="trashman" post="860621" timestamp="1285769944"] Hmmmmmm! If he took his talents to Beaumont I should see him? What his name? If he plays for Beaumont he surely must have two addresses too! Dude I don't focus on 11 yr. olds because in 2 to 3 years the talents are usually different. Some are taller,faster,stronger etc. Like I said before i don't  live  my dreams through my kids although they are at the top of the chain!  :o [/quote]Watch the Video!! [Hidden Content]

[quote name="trashman" post="860614" timestamp="1285769489"] Hey everyone so I see the rumors are very correct! And yes Ms. Hj Rocks your son is very talented but attends school at Lumberton! Like I said before all nonsense removed the other team who may fall short against the HJ Hawks but they are playing with kids not from their area.  Recruited ones! Like I said I can go all the way down the the flag team if u know what I mean???????  Check your surroundings there is always someone in the midst that may not agree with what you all are doing and might feel it is time to expose it. Nothing against the other kids on your team because they are a good bunch of kids but if everyone filled the holes in their teams with other kids they would also beat everyone else! Just sayin! So glad my kids are not in Lonestar because it seems their rules are tainted are slightly swayed for some people! I also don't live my dreams through my kids like some of you! Let remember they are kids! [size=12pt][color=red]Rumor has it that some of you HJ Hawks coaches have said you want to take your kids from HJ because of the decreasing athletic department and move to Lumberton! [/color] [/size] Come and meet us! Your already using our kids anyway! ;) [/quote]Wow, i agree on the decreasing talent, but Lumberton? They might as well stay at Hj ;D ;D

[quote name="trashman" post="859213" timestamp="1285616148"] [quote author=Yep link=topic=73335.msg858934#msg858934 date=1285594298]  Just for everyones information.  There are 2 kids from Lumberton on the Hawks team  one running back and one lineman only. There are 2 other Lumberton kids that now live and go to school in HJ. I talked to the coach this weekend to check the facts on that. The game went into rain delay that went into a make up...HJ leads 7 to 0 midway through the first quarter, and was every bit the game everyone expected 2 really good squads going at each other. [/quote] Wow! its amazing how some areas play with the talent they have and build programs and even more amazing that some would go and recruit from other places to build their program! Did we forget these are kids and the morals you teach of how to be a winner can be tainted by cheating! I know for a fact that there are several kids on HJ junior and senior team that are students at Lumberton and do not attend HJ! I know the QB from HJ Jr. for sure goes to school in Lumberton but the parents have an old address in sour lake  ::)! Wow! So say what u like, the board should reevaluate how they let kids play from other areas that are not attending those particular schools. If that is the case everyone should recruit and build a team, but what are you saying to the kids of your own community? Are they not good enough to teach and build? Wow! U know it would be fair to say that Warren wins even if they lose because they are playing with kids from their community! Oh by the way my kids go to school with some of these kids on HJ team that is how I know they attend Lumberton school! [/quote]Trashman, you're lucky Mofo doesn't have this kid as his running back!! 11yr old Hawk who decided to take his talents to Beaumont [Hidden Content]

[quote name="UNLV" post="859016" timestamp="1285602471"] I agree. They are laughing at Lamar all over the internet and posting that stupid picture of Lamar off "Revenge of the Nerds". [/quote] :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

[quote name="birdmascot" post="856619" timestamp="1285423085"] what i do not understand about this entire post is that the subject line reads something about the new EC asst. coach. to everyone's astonishment (lol) what we have here is another discussion about HJ. you argue, you talk smack, you threaten each other, and what you are failing to realize is that you are all talking about children.  Most of which are good kids.  Some however, have a terrible since of entitlement.  From what I understand if eligibility was based on actual behavior, then some of these CHILDREN you speak of would not even be a part of the program.  Of course, you will all probably blame the teachers and the coaches for this.  instead, i have an idea....STEP UP AS A PARENT or mentor and teach this kids how to become contributing members of society regardless of their basketball future. i wish KENNY HOFFPAUIR (the original subject of this thread) all the best at EC! [/quote]Great Post!!

HF 24- Kelly19 halftime

HF 24- Kelly 13 8:01 left in the second

[quote name="speechless" post="855317" timestamp="1285366397"] I don't know you and you lucky you don't know me.  You better go somewhere else if you think you wanna scare someone. [/quote]My intentions are not to scare, but to warn ;)

[quote name="speechless" post="855308" timestamp="1285365880"] [quote]Only player to play the whole game is the player who stands in that corner all game jacking, playing no D...[/quote] Who you talkin bout?  Gus, Grayson, or Jacoby?  They all played the whole game without coming out.  Since you wanna talk about Prudhomme lets do it.  If I recall he was starting early in the year...right?  YES.  Why was he pulled?  Hmmmmm...you wanna answer that or you want me to?  You pick.  By the time he was back in good graces they were rolling and he was playing his best coming off the bench.  Why change a good thing?  To please those that cry race and only care about "their own"?  To please those that know very little about the game and aren't at practice every day but love to show up at game time and b--ch and gripe if "their people" don't score all the points?  I don't think so....coaches do what is working.  Ever heard "if it aint broke dont fix it?".  You think the coaches are the ones that got race problems when the one with the real race problem is you....cause if it dont go your way you cry race...and the apple don't fall far from the tree apparently. You're a punk...keep talkin...cause I got your answers. [/quote]Next time u see me all u gotta do is say something and you can get it.

[quote name="speechless" post="855301" timestamp="1285365382"] Family?  What are you talking about?  I'm a parent of one of the players who is tired of seeing you bash our team and coaches.  I find it funny that you question a coach/coaches who have been in the regional finals four years in a row and state twice.  Oh wait...let me guess...it's the players right?  Until they lose in the regional finals....THEN it's the coaches, right?  Kountze been to the regional finals four years in a row?  Central and Ozen?  Better schools, better players, better coaches?  Yeah right!  Keep believin' your own hype.  You are the only one that does.  If it's so much better then move on and quit dealing with and posting about a school and coaches that are so terrible.  You sound just like a wannabe that never was.  John Wooden and Red Auerbach were famous for bringing their BEST PLAYER off the bench....but wait...their white so they don't know what they are doing...right?  You are lucky I have no clue who you are or as we say from "neighborhoods just off 105" I'd be on you like stink on $hit! [/quote]First of all you beg for me to respond. You start most of these threads with my name in it. When you ask for me then im gonna give it to ya. "Raw and Uncut" If you don't like it then P.M me and i will gladly tell you who i am so the next time you see me you can do what u gotta do. I don't get on here looking for Speechless or any of the 4 that im always arguing with. I have the right to disagee , since when did that become bashing?

[quote name="Twig" post="855284" timestamp="1285364620"] BV hardly played. Prudhomme played the whole game. Wake up. [/quote]Only player to play the whole game is the player who stands in that corner all game jacking, playing no D...

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="855274" timestamp="1285364252"] Are you saying SP rode the bench??????  You are screwed up!!!! Best rebounder.......... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) [/quote]Don't get on here and act like he wasn't one of your better rebounders and post defenders.

[quote name="Twig" post="855275" timestamp="1285364261"] Sounds alot like yourself! [/quote]Like i have told them, and now im telling you. If you have a problem then all you gotta do is say something next time you see me ;)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="855274" timestamp="1285364252"] Are you saying SP rode the bench??????  You are screwed up!!!! Best rebounder.......... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) [/quote]Umm yeah. Only to back up the great B.V.  ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="855260" timestamp="1285362814"] [quote author=Twig link=topic=73010.msg855255#msg855255 date=1285362690] Im from china. Shows how much swag know! [/quote] Wait a minute, if you are from China, does that mean you are from across the tracks?  If you are, you are supposed to be one of those that swag takes care of.  Has he asked you to transfer to Central or Ozen yet? [/quote]I don't take care of anyone dude, and i sure haven't asked anyone of them to transfer. (Even though i would love to see that happen) Better opportunities and coaches. I bet they wouldn't have two 6'4's coming off the bench to back up 2 5'6 guys ;) Only at Hj will you have your best rebounder and best basketball player(S.P) ride the pine. Only to watch players in front of you fold under pressure. (Hunstville)