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[quote name="UNLV" post="1310341" timestamp="1351269172"] [quote author=kingkat99 link=topic=104710.msg1310276#msg1310276 date=1351264776] The "Houston Market" argument has a little to do with the fact that we have a satellite campus in The Woodlands and have a agreement with Lone Star College which is throughout Houston to accept there coursework.  Due to SH recent success we also have(although very brief) programming spots on two Houston Sports radio programs.  I personally dont think either school is ready for FBS.  Lamar from a competitive standpoint and SH from a facilities standpoint, so I can see why there is some resistance to eithe program. [/quote]Don't drag Lamar down with Sam. If Sam ain't ready, then too bad. Lamar needs to get back to where it was before bad leadership.Even if we were winning at the FCS level, joining FBS will have us losing for a few season anyways.Maybe if we move up, we can hire your coach....LOL. [/quote] Hiring our coach would be the best football decision your(or I guess I should say their since you arent really a cardinal) AD ever made.  Lets face it Woodard is NOT the answer to take the Cards to the next level.  Thats not "dragging" LU down thats a fact. 

The "Houston Market" argument has a little to do with the fact that we have a satellite campus in The Woodlands and have a agreement with Lone Star College which is throughout Houston to accept there coursework.  Due to SH recent success we also have(although very brief) programming spots on two Houston Sports radio programs.  I personally dont think either school is ready for FBS.  Lamar from a competitive standpoint and SH from a facilities standpoint, so I can see why there is some resistance to eithe program.

I cant think of one poster that cares if Lamar stays or not especially football wise.  I know there are some parents that would want them to stay so they can see their kids pad their stats everytime we play but thats about it. 

[quote name="UNLV" post="1309259" timestamp="1351176762"] [quote author=skipmeister link=topic=104710.msg1309237#msg1309237 date=1351175451] FBS next season? Yeah, right? [/quote]Lamar could go FBS next year. It would be a transition year. Lamar would not be a full member of the SBC for 2 years. I would rather MWC, but the SBC is better than the SLC. [b]They are freaking out on Katfans site[/b]. LOL. [/quote] Ummm, if you call what I just read on KatFans  "Freaking Out" you need a better grip on life.  [Hidden Content]

[quote name="UNLV" post="1282398" timestamp="1348670846"] [quote author=Javelina link=topic=103497.msg1282280#msg1282280 date=1348659130] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=103497.msg1282244#msg1282244 date=1348631439] How do you determine if 20k, 30k, 35k, 40k, 80k is the best stadium size for Lamar? [/quote] Wyomings Stadium 29,181, New Mexico Stadium 39,224, La Tech 30,600, thats where I got that number from but stadium capacity is not my decision the have never asked what I think about Lamar football [/quote]Beaumont metro is bigger than 2 of those 3. We have space and population for 40k. [b]What do you think of ULL 50k stadium plans[/b]? [/quote] [IMG][Hidden Content]] ULL has got a good bandwagon going right now.  Lamar could build a 40, 50,60k+ stadium and might fill it up once or twice a season depending on who was playing and how good the Cards are at the time.  ULM filled their stadium for the first time EVER last friday and that was only because of the early success they have had this season not the opponent.  They didnt even fill it when Alabama and others have previously come to town.

[quote name="LUSportsFan" post="1254738" timestamp="1346347185"] [quote author=kingkat99 link=topic=101078.msg1254681#msg1254681 date=1346343710] As long as Lamar insists on playing 6 home games a year there will almost always be a D2 or NAIA game on the schedule.  If Lamar moves up to FBS and insists on 6 home games they will not be able to fill their non conference schedule with the TX Tech's and Baylor's of the world and they will have to schedule FCS programs to go along with a conference home schedule of New Mexico, Colorado State and Utah State which I doubt will equal decent attendance especially during the transition years when they will not be very competitive. [/quote] I'm ok with D2 / NAIA home games (McMurray is transitioning to DII) for the first few years, but later I'd like to see us move to "Quality" over "Quantity" after the next year or so.  Coach Knight's goal is no D2's in basketball.  I'd like to see the same thing in football. Right now, our home schedule is not a lot different from the one that UTSA, another start-up, has this year (except for the WAC teams on their schedule).  UTSA is playing two Division II teams in addition to McNeese and UTSA's WAC conference mates at home. [url=[Hidden Content]] [/quote] Not that it matters really but UTSA is a year behind Lamar as a start up so their schedule is what it is.  Playing only FCS or better each year will require travelling more and will also require not backing out on people after they come here to Bmt when its time to return the favor like they did last season or people will become very leary of scheduling home and homes with LU unless LU comes there first. 

As long as Lamar insists on playing 6 home games a year there will almost always be a D2 or NAIA game on the schedule.  If Lamar moves up to FBS and insists on 6 home games they will not be able to fill their non conference schedule with the TX Tech's and Baylor's of the world and they will have to schedule FCS programs to go along with a conference home schedule of New Mexico, Colorado State and Utah State which I doubt will equal decent attendance especially during the transition years when they will not be very competitive.

[quote name="UNLV" post="1253202" timestamp="1346171073"] [quote author=kingkat99 link=topic=101078.msg1253173#msg1253173 date=1346167223] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=101078.msg1252884#msg1252884 date=1346108566] [quote author=kingkat99 link=topic=101078.msg1252625#msg1252625 date=1346089435] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=101078.msg1251434#msg1251434 date=1345950025] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=101078.msg1251139#msg1251139 date=1345924682] When Denver was in the Sun Belt they were sending their teams all the way to Florida.  I don't think it matter what conference they are in they still have to travel a lot.  I guess if the money if right then AFA could join the BE for football and put their other teams in PL.  I just think that's a long shot but you never know. But I still don't see the remaining MWC schools inviting Lamar, no matter what we think about it.  If they refuse to take New Mexico State then there's no way they want Lamar. [/quote]Ok since you want to use exact words. MWC commissioner said no to Idaho and NMSU. He also said no non-football schools and he will invite the Texas schools. Cola, who are the Football playing Texas schools? No CUSA, BE, SEC, or Big 12 football playing school in Texas will leave their conference to go to the MWC. So who are those Texas schools the MWC commissioner is targeting?  Can anyone tell me? [/quote] Texas State and North Texas. [/quote]Use a bit of common sense. North Texas will not leave conference games in San Antonio, Houston, Tulsa, and New Orleans to play in Fort Collins and Laramie. And pay a 5 million dollar exit fee. [/quote] And you think Texas State will???  They are both Sunbelt schools so there is as good a chance for NT as TXST.  Im not sure either would trade that for a MWC that has gotten so deperate they would be going after Lamar? [/quote]This is North Texas last season in the Sunbelt. Next year they will be playing in CUSA. You did know UNT was going to CUSA? Texas st would be as crazy as Lamar was for going back to the Southland to not go MWC. MWC still ranks higher than the SBC. Will you be happy for Lamar if the MWC invites Texas st and Lamar? [/quote] Honestly no I didnt as I only follow my university and the other members of its conference and dont really concern myself with everyone else and moving up on a daily basis. 

[quote name="UNLV" post="1252884" timestamp="1346108566"] [quote author=kingkat99 link=topic=101078.msg1252625#msg1252625 date=1346089435] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=101078.msg1251434#msg1251434 date=1345950025] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=101078.msg1251139#msg1251139 date=1345924682] When Denver was in the Sun Belt they were sending their teams all the way to Florida.  I don't think it matter what conference they are in they still have to travel a lot.  I guess if the money if right then AFA could join the BE for football and put their other teams in PL.  I just think that's a long shot but you never know. But I still don't see the remaining MWC schools inviting Lamar, no matter what we think about it.  If they refuse to take New Mexico State then there's no way they want Lamar. [/quote]Ok since you want to use exact words. MWC commissioner said no to Idaho and NMSU. He also said no non-football schools and he will invite the Texas schools. Cola, who are the Football playing Texas schools? No CUSA, BE, SEC, or Big 12 football playing school in Texas will leave their conference to go to the MWC. So who are those Texas schools the MWC commissioner is targeting?  Can anyone tell me? [/quote] Texas State and North Texas. [/quote]Use a bit of common sense. North Texas will not leave conference games in San Antonio, Houston, Tulsa, and New Orleans to play in Fort Collins and Laramie. And pay a 5 million dollar exit fee. [/quote] And you think Texas State will???  They are both Sunbelt schools so there is as good a chance for NT as TXST.  Im not sure either would trade that for a MWC that has gotten so deperate they would be going after Lamar? 

[quote name="UNLV" post="1251434" timestamp="1345950025"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=101078.msg1251139#msg1251139 date=1345924682] When Denver was in the Sun Belt they were sending their teams all the way to Florida.  I don't think it matter what conference they are in they still have to travel a lot.  I guess if the money if right then AFA could join the BE for football and put their other teams in PL.  I just think that's a long shot but you never know. But I still don't see the remaining MWC schools inviting Lamar, no matter what we think about it.  If they refuse to take New Mexico State then there's no way they want Lamar. [/quote]Ok since you want to use exact words. MWC commissioner said no to Idaho and NMSU. He also said no non-football schools and he will invite the Texas schools. Cola, who are the Football playing Texas schools? No CUSA, BE, SEC, or Big 12 football playing school in Texas will leave their conference to go to the MWC. So who are those Texas schools the MWC commissioner is targeting?  Can anyone tell me? [/quote] Texas State and North Texas.

This list is normally made up of returning all conference players and then they add others.  Correct me if Im wrong but arent the only couple of all conference players yall had last season gone?

Day games in and of themselves are not bad. thaey just affect the tailgating experience, and if you have kids involved in any kind of fall sports or events it makes it difficult to attend the game alone much less tailgate, hence the reason my kids are not allowed to play fall sports.

Sam Houston does the same thing 6pm games in september and the rest are at 2pm.  It kills tailgating and does nothing to improve the gameday experience.

As of late there is no one here talking Lamar but you much less ragging SH.  And I dont piss on Lamar in every thread, just every thread about Lamar.  Big reason for it is out of all the SLC schools Lamar was the only one whose fans were wishing we would lose and be poor representatives of our conference in the playoffs last season, not that I need a reason.

Just curious why a guy who went to unlv and calls himself "UNLV" even cares, much less rants like you do about things and since no one seems to be playing along with your last couple threads I thought Id ask.

La Tech didnt do it.  They went West only.  In this new WAC teams would span from the East Coast to Idaho.  HUge difference.

Good luck if its true.  Youll need more than Umphrey money to make that travel schedule work.  A conference that essentially spans the US is DUMB...

[quote name="UNLV" post="1230097" timestamp="1339518434"] What many don't understand is SHSU and Lamar are the same distant from downtown Houston. Huntsville micro-statistical area was added to Houston CSA. I am actually surprised BPT MSA has not already joined the Houston CSA. There is no SHSU advantage to claim Houston over Lamar and vise-versa. However both schools can make the case for being located close to Houston. Lamar's advantage is the half-million people in all southeast Texas. [/quote] For what its worth per mapquest Huntsville is 17 miles closer to Houston than Beaumont. ;)  I really dont want SH to make this kind of move, but Lamar is in a better position facilities wise and population wise.  Since these moves are based on the football program only thing Lamar really needs at this point is some sustained success to turn some heads. 

Bein as I live in Little Cypress I couldn't tell you if they covered it or not...

[quote name="puddin tane" post="1227964" timestamp="1338567553"] [quote author=kingkat99 link=topic=100313.msg1227951#msg1227951 date=1338566444] Well if we you use the drive times youve posted on here stating that Beaumont is only an hour from Houston that would make Huntsville like 30-45 minutes tops and Huntsville is apart of the Houston media market along with the Sports Director and his side kick from at least one major TV station in Houston are SH alumni and follow the team closely already they very well could feasibly send a crew each week.  Also the Bryan College Station channel is at every home game so they could easily do what the Beaumont stations do.  As for the other reasons our Alumni base in the Houston area is bigger than Lamar's, We are closer in proximity and we have a satelite campus in The Woodlands, the houston media is saturated with Sam grads who are more than willing to cover things going on with the school. Those are just a few simple reasons without much thought as to why it would be easier not neccessarily reasons why it would happen as I agree neither school will ever "Carry" the market unless UT and the Aggys fall off the planet. [/quote] y'all crack me up...Houston coulg give a rats arse about Lamar or Sam... [/quote] Never said they did, just said if you were using the media market argument, I'd say Houston being apart of their footprint makes more sense for SH than Lamar at this point.  I could care less really as I perfectly happy where SH is at the present time.  Trust me Im not delusional.

Well if we you use the drive times youve posted on here stating that Beaumont is only an hour from Houston that would make Huntsville like 30-45 minutes tops and Huntsville is apart of the Houston media market along with the Sports Director and his side kick from at least one major TV station in Houston are SH alumni and follow the team closely already they very well could feasibly send a crew each week.  Also the Bryan College Station channel is at every home game so they could easily do what the Beaumont stations do.  As for the other reasons our Alumni base in the Houston area is bigger than Lamar's, We are closer in proximity and we have a satelite campus in The Woodlands, the houston media is saturated with Sam grads who are more than willing to cover things going on with the school. Those are just a few simple reasons without much thought as to why it would be easier not neccessarily reasons why it would happen as I agree neither school will ever "Carry" the market unless UT and the Aggys fall off the planet.

[quote name="wbfan" post="1227811" timestamp="1338550530"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=100313.msg1227765#msg1227765 date=1338516507] [quote author=wbfan link=topic=100313.msg1227541#msg1227541 date=1338481644] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=100313.msg1227481#msg1227481 date=1338473788] [Hidden Content] They would rather have SFA or SHSU. I agree. [b]Put SHSU into that low academic dukes of hazard conference[/b]. Did Lamar destroy ULL in MBB last season? [/quote] As I recall, aren't you dying for Lamar to get into that "low academic dukes of hazzard conference"? You also have to be realistic, Lamar does not look like an attractive option to those on the outside epsecially. Otherwise, I would've went there after I graduated high school. This is just how a lot of people perceive LU. [/quote]No, I am not a SBC lover. I prefer the SBC over the SLC because of the FBS. Take away the SBC FBS, the SBC is another SLC. 2nd, you obvious can't see the flaw in your thinking. Lamar wasn't good enough for you yet you oppose Lamar bettering itself. That is called the SETX mentality. Opposing new schools, opposing new beautification projects, etc etc then telling the world how this area sucks is the SETX mentality. [/quote] I'm all for Lamar bettering itself. I just don't think LU is ready for FBS. There's not enough funding or support for it, [b]plus the Houston market is better carried by SHSU[/b]. [/quote] Let me first say that I in no way want SHSU to make a move, and I dont feel like we are in competition to see who can get there first, but SHSU would carry the Houston market light years before Lamar for a number of different reasons.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1223300" timestamp="1337278654"] [quote author=kingkat99 link=topic=99866.msg1223257#msg1223257 date=1337274829] I hope its Lamar or SFA. [/quote] Honest inquiry here. Why is that your wish and not SHSU? [/quote] Because outside of a feasibility study SH has done nothing to prepare itself for such a move.  There has not been a capital campaign started, our facilities need a ton of work and expansion in some cases(see capital campaign) and we dont have a fan base at this point that would go very far in sustaining such a move.  I think that this is not a decision that should be made on a wim or out of fear another opportunity may be a long time coming or not at all.  If you're going to do something then do it right.  And lastly our playoff run last season was awesome and it was a great experience to be apart of that and I would hate to lose the opportunity to be apart of something like that again in the future.

I hope its Lamar or SFA.

[quote name="UNLV" post="1223048" timestamp="1337219874"] Benson continue to mention SHSU and east Texas for expansion. I wonder if he means SFA and SHSU. [/quote] The sooner he forgets all about SHSU the better.  We havent got the money, facilities or fan base to make that kind of move right now.  And Sam may have a smaller TV market in the greater Huntsville area so Im guessing our proximity to Houston makes us appealing.