puddin tane

[quote name="geezer" post="952547" timestamp="1295659571"] One of the reasons for the artificial dirt and grass is to keep the field playable in a typical SETX spring.  Unlike the pros or possibly some big time programs, the field is maintained by the coaches and players.  Would you rather they practice, study and play or work on the field? [/quote] i gotz no problem with the turf grass..but get some good ole  dirt by those bases..... gotta have something for those kids that are buried on the depth chart to do

[quote name="Green Menace" post="953948" timestamp="1295907589"] Lamar better start looking again for an FBS conference to join.  Word on the MWC board is that Utah State and San Jose State are the newest MWC members.  This move would pretty much eliminate the WAC.  San Jose had 8K fans for their last home game.  Go figure. [/quote] The WAC  is a  who's who of teams that have left it

[quote name="coachacola" post="953931" timestamp="1295905556"] [quote author=1KatKiller link=topic=78804.msg953926#msg953926 date=1295904983] "Hopefully Lamar announces their move to the WAC soon because being even being a bottom of the barrel FBS school like UL-Monroe beats staying in the SLC any day of the week. " [b]Even if you can't beat those teams?[/b] [/quote] Lamar certainly can't beat them if they stay FCS. [/quote] Good Lord...we've been playing for a year!

[quote name="coachacola" post="953213" timestamp="1295751977"] 107-72 LU wins.  Is UCA an actual D1 team? [/quote] crazy stuff...CA played SMU close..SMU trashed LU...LU trashes CA CA musta lost its first string to grades...

oo-la-la leaves....ulm goes to southland....appy state,ga southern join sunbelt....oo-la-la and lu join wac...can we get utah st.  and idaho to leave and go back to big west?

they could fit this crowd in a mini-van..LU bball is at an all time low

[quote name="lefty3162" post="952629" timestamp="1295664389"] All good info but what about Zach? [/quote] if i counted right, LU has about 8 or 9 wr that will be sophs next year(2 may be juniors) ((if they all come back)), plus..if these new rb's pan out, add hussey back in the slot.. I think for a wr to get a scholarship next yr, he'd have to be something really special....not saying Sonnier is or isnt

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="952190" timestamp="1295628609"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=78846.msg951969#msg951969 date=1295571312] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=78846.msg950640#msg950640 date=1295396950] It needs to have some shaded areas. I can't think of the word for the structure I'm referring to but all the big-time programs have them. [/quote] used to take my son out for gilligan's camp...i swear it was 20 degrees hotter at VB than anywhere else in beaumont anybody been to aTm's baseball stadium?  My daughter goes there..(blacksheep of a large LU family)..thats a really nice stadium... [/quote] Olsen field at A&M is nice. I played there when I was 13 for the state championship. Awesome. I like Vincent Beck though, I remember when the Gators played there, heck I was a bat boy for them for one year. The memories. I think just add visitor locker room next to the indoor batting cages and maybe look at building an awning over the stands like at alot of other college fields that covers the majority of the stands. Just a little more work and I think it will be one of the premier college baseball stadiums around. [/quote] I Agree, I love V-B  (could tell John Kruk was one heckuva player watching the gators) Awnings from first to third..leave the outfield foul line bleachers open to catch fouls...and get rid of the artifical dirt!

i got out my crystal ball...i see those 2 florida skools in the sunbelt..fiu and fla at..going somewhere else...appy st and ga southern wanna move up somewhere...ULM oughta drop to the Southland...i think there will be a major shakeup in a year or two in the sunbelt, and possibly a new  FBS conference  along the east coast... and if the NCAA every sticks to their 15,000 minimum attendance to stay FBS...things will really get shaken up

[quote name="bigred360" post="950640" timestamp="1295396950"] It needs to have some shaded areas. I can't think of the word for the structure I'm referring to but all the big-time programs have them. [/quote] used to take my son out for gilligan's camp...i swear it was 20 degrees hotter at VB than anywhere else in beaumont anybody been to aTm's baseball stadium?  My daughter goes there..(blacksheep of a large LU family)..thats a really nice stadium...

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="951460" timestamp="1295490389"] BigRed360, I said for people to continue to go to games they will have to continue recruiting from this area or recruit five star players. Everybody wants them going to the WAC and other mid major conferences, so LU will have to recruit better. Thats just my opinion and it's way different then yours. Figured you to be a yankee by your mouth. Sorry you get your feelings hurt when someone says thier opinion, but if if your going to sit thier and say that watching Lamar football this year was like watching college football your kidding yourself. I don't care how [roud you are of LU and your family track record. I just want to see LU drastically improve the football program to compete year in year out. I didn't expect them to be a top notch team the first year, but I was surprised at the lack of fundementals that I observed. [/quote] well big...i wiped out my computer trying to "over-smite" him.. "recruit from "this area"..that means mid-county..which we have a couple on roster and a recruit..more stuff he probably doesnt care to know..looked like college football to me..not the best in the world..but it was  college football..in beaumont..gotta love it

[quote name="sleepy" post="951190" timestamp="1295463424"] As a former "local" Lamar athlete that won't fly and the coaches know that.  If they want local talent they have to treat them like they are anyone else.  This has been part of the problem with the basketball program.  They have lost several kids who were locals that they thought they could get to walk on and they ended up going to another southland school and biting them in the behind. [/quote] glad to hear that

of  the 40 something local kids on the roster now, any idea how many of em are scholarship /walkons?  just curious... I'm thinking...you got Bubba Jones, not local, or Jimmy Triangle, local, ..you think they are equal talent....sign Bubba and get Jimmy to walk on...

what do they have in mind for vincent -beck...thats a pretty nice college stadium as it is...can't get used to the idea of astro-tuff dirt tho... hopefully some shade?

[quote name="RS73" post="949970" timestamp="1295312693"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=78804.msg949810#msg949810 date=1295294136] [quote author=Green Menace link=topic=78804.msg949709#msg949709 date=1295278475] Which programs in the state of Texas have ever had 50,000+ fans in the stands for a football game?  Texas, Texas A & M, and Texas Tech.  The big dogs of the Old SWC and now the B12-10.  Sure, if you have a stadium that can hold 50K and you can get one of those programs to grace your campus, you'll fill the stadium up-  with aggie$, whorns, or raider fans. As fine a program as TCU has developed over the past 10-12 years, the average about 32-35K fans per home game, depending on their opponent.  That may change for TCU now that they will move to the big East.  But I doubt it.  Rice only gets large crowds when Texas or the Aggie$ come to town, and 90% of the fans are horns or aggies which makes it a home game for them.  Same for Houston. On top of that, enlarging Cardinal Stadium to 50K will cost mucho money, so you better have a Daddy Warbucks or two to cover the cost. Not trying to keep you guys down, but ya'll need to be reasonable. [/quote] use reason, you get called an idiot [/quote] Puddin, it wasn't me that called you a idiot. I'm sure your a fine person(you're a Cardinal fan, you can't be all bad :D). All I'm trying to say is, if we win, people will come to the games. I don't know how many people will come to the games, I don't have a crystal ball. I do know everyone loves a winner. If 15,000 people come or 50,000, I'll be one of them. I hope you will be one, too. Go Big Red! [/quote] started going in the late 60's..havent missed many

[quote name="Green Menace" post="949709" timestamp="1295278475"] Which programs in the state of Texas have ever had 50,000+ fans in the stands for a football game?  Texas, Texas A & M, and Texas Tech.  The big dogs of the Old SWC and now the B12-10.  Sure, if you have a stadium that can hold 50K and you can get one of those programs to grace your campus, you'll fill the stadium up-  with aggie$, whorns, or raider fans. As fine a program as TCU has developed over the past 10-12 years, the average about 32-35K fans per home game, depending on their opponent.  That may change for TCU now that they will move to the big East.  But I doubt it.  Rice only gets large crowds when Texas or the Aggie$ come to town, and 90% of the fans are horns or aggies which makes it a home game for them.  Same for Houston. On top of that, enlarging Cardinal Stadium to 50K will cost mucho money, so you better have a Daddy Warbucks or two to cover the cost. Not trying to keep you guys down, but ya'll need to be reasonable. [/quote] use reason, you get called an idiot

[quote name="UNLV" post="949483" timestamp="1295223954"] [quote author=AJ25 link=topic=78846.msg949432#msg949432 date=1295218208] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=78846.msg949430#msg949430 date=1295218114] I doubt Lamar would double the size of the stadium all at once, it would be done in phases.  First enclose the north end, then the south end, then probably a big press box with suites on the west side, then finally an upper deck on the east side.  They could do this over a ten period as the attendance grows. I still say being in the WAC will allow Lamar to attract better home games than if they stayed in the SLC.  No FBS teams will come to Beaumont if Lamar stays in the SLC, not even Sun Belt teams.  So just being in the WAC allows a better non-conference schedule, and they could still schedule McNeese if they wanted to. Which of these conference home schedules would draw more fans? Typical SLC home slate: Nicholls State, SFA, McNeese, SLU Typical WAC home slate: Utah State, SJSU, UTSA, La Tech One other thing, would Lamar have a good crowd for a Thursday night ESPN game? [/quote] The only competition in the area on a Thurs night is Fresh/JV football games. Thursday ESPN game would definitely sell out. [/quote]Agreed... I still say once LU go FBS, Lamar should go after a home game in Reliant with Texas or AM. [/quote] why would that be a HOME game?

[quote name="LU4LIFE" post="949465" timestamp="1295222612"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=78804.msg949458#msg949458 date=1295221966] [quote author=RS73 link=topic=78804.msg949441#msg949441 date=1295219420] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=78804.msg949434#msg949434 date=1295218524] It took a while but SETX did support the basketball team very well in the 1980s.  Putting together a winner year after year does wonders for attendance.  Although the team has been mostly mediocre (to put it nicely) for years, Lamar still leads in the SLC in attendance. Even this year Texas had a lot of empty seats in their last few games, so even one of premiere teams in the country has to win or fans will stop showing up.  It's been repeated many times, but not matter if Lamar stays in the SLC or goes to the WAC, they have to win or it won't matter much. [/quote] +1 If we win, we won't have to worry about attendance. There are enough people in this area that loves football to pack a 40,000 to 50,000 seat stadium. Just win, baby! [/quote] yeah, sure...if it isnt cold, aTm and texas and lsu are off, PNG isnt playing,the cable goes out and the coach taters cant watch the big ten and the fighting Irish are coming to town [/quote] Puddin tane your a idiot he said if the support was there and we win we could fill a 40-50k seat stadium, you should make sure you understand the post before you comment on it. [/quote] I'm an idiot?  you silly twit .....there is no way in H--- 50,000 "people in this area" are gonna go to a Lamar game...dreaming is one thing, drinking too much mushroom tea is another...Try a dose of reality now..when we play at kyle field and there are 80,000 ppl, 79,000 of em aggies..does that count in your delusional lil mind?

[quote name="RS73" post="949441" timestamp="1295219420"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=78804.msg949434#msg949434 date=1295218524] It took a while but SETX did support the basketball team very well in the 1980s.  Putting together a winner year after year does wonders for attendance.  Although the team has been mostly mediocre (to put it nicely) for years, Lamar still leads in the SLC in attendance. Even this year Texas had a lot of empty seats in their last few games, so even one of premiere teams in the country has to win or fans will stop showing up.  It's been repeated many times, but not matter if Lamar stays in the SLC or goes to the WAC, they have to win or it won't matter much. [/quote] +1 If we win, we won't have to worry about attendance. There are enough people in this area that loves football to pack a 40,000 to 50,000 seat stadium. Just win, baby! [/quote] yeah, sure...if it isnt cold, aTm and texas and lsu are off, PNG isnt playing,the cable goes out and the coach taters cant watch the big ten and the fighting Irish are coming to town

[quote name="bigred360" post="949369" timestamp="1295210918"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=78846.msg949362#msg949362 date=1295210589] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=78846.msg949272#msg949272 date=1295198225] Boise st  33,500 Fresno 41,000 Idaho  16,000 La Tech 30,000 Hawaii  50,000 Nevada 30,000 New Mwxico 30,000 SJSU   30,500 UTSA   65,000 Texas st  16,000 Utah st  25,000 Lamar could add 13,000 and be in the pack. I preferr LU go 40,000. [/quote] now list the avg. attendance for those skools remaining in the WAC I'd rather LU be a very hard ticket to get than a half full 30k seater [/quote] Puddin, you'd need to have athletic facilities that compare to others in the same conference. Lamar has great football facilities compared to other SLC schools but not with the WAC or even the Sun Belt. [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [/quote] I'll do it for ya Idaho 16,000    12,000 LaTech 30,000    20,000 New Mex 30,000  16,500 SJSU 30,500          15,300 add in san marcos and their weak attendance...aint real impressive

for the FIRST YEAR BACK IN OVER 20 YEARS...the last T[u]WO[/u] home games were poorly attended [size=10pt]i saw similar posted on la tech board..think its fitting[/size] [i]"I wear my Lamar shirt because I went there, he wears his LSU shirt cuz he went to walmart"[/i] and that, in a nutshell, is your LU problem

[quote name="badndn" post="948963" timestamp="1295134134"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=78804.msg948952#msg948952 date=1295131200] when people choose high school over college, maybe you oughta stay FCS. [/quote] You must not be from around here.  ;D PNG folks are going to PNG playoff games, it don't matter who else is playing at that time. Lamar will allways have trouble drawing for a game late in the season when multiple area HS teams are playing. SETX loves it's HS football. Allwys has and allways will. [/quote] I am  from here..thats why i think all this "expand to 40k seats" is nonsense

[quote name="UNLV" post="949272" timestamp="1295198225"] Boise st  33,500 Fresno 41,000 Idaho  16,000 La Tech 30,000 Hawaii  50,000 Nevada 30,000 New Mwxico 30,000 SJSU   30,500 UTSA   65,000 Texas st  16,000 Utah st  25,000 Lamar could add 13,000 and be in the pack. I preferr LU go 40,000. [/quote] now list the avg. attendance for those skools remaining in the WAC I'd rather LU be a very hard ticket to get than a half full 30k seater

[quote name="bigred360" post="948891" timestamp="1295125189"] The Puddin Conference LU - Southland Ul-La - Sun Belt McNeese - Southland Troy - Sun Belt So Bammy - Sun Belt La Tech - WAC Appy St. - Southern Conference Ga.Southern - Southern Conference Sam,or texas st jr college - Southland/WAC that there is a good,southern fried  conference oh,and Smu so we have some graduates - C-USA These teams will never be is the same conference and McNeese has no aspiration of going FBS in football. If La Tech leaves the WAC it will be for C-USA. Then the two schools in the Southern Conference have won multiple FCS championships and I have yet to hear of them being mentioned going FBS. SHSU is very tentative about going FBS and leaving the SLC. So for Lamar it is the WAC or Sun Belt if a team or two leaves. Otherwise, we'll be in the SLC. [/quote] Why not?  automatic bid to the puddin bowl?

[quote name="bigred360" post="948868" timestamp="1295121969"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=78804.msg948858#msg948858 date=1295120641] [quote author=Javelina link=topic=78804.msg948856#msg948856 date=1295120117] The South Dakota game had bad attendance because of a few different factors.   1) it was cold and rained most of the day 2) they had the game on TV 3) [b]High School Football Playoffs started that weekend[/b] I am not sure about the last game because I did not make it into the stadium from the parking lot. I would assume that because PNG was playing about 10 miles away at the same time for both games that had alot to do with the attendance of the last 2 games. If I was lamar I would think about scheduling all your home games before HS playoffs start and play last 2 games on the road but that is just me. [/quote] didnt rain a drop at the game..dont hear Aggies, gators, wolverines complaining about the weather you cant outdraw westbrook and central , you aint ready for FBS [/quote] Just to clarify, Westbrook and Central weren't in the same ballpark in attendance as the Lamar Cardinals. I believe Javelina mentioned a PNG playoff game at the same time at the new football complex in Beaumont. Lamar has a lot of alumni from PNG and I'm sure it did effect attendance some. What the guys in the athletic development office want is more Lamar students at the games. [/quote] when people choose high school over college, maybe you oughta stay FCS.