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[quote name="kingkat99" post="822286" timestamp="1280596049"] You do see the same at shsu...and yes our fan base is very fair weather as the majority of most fcs schools are, but at least ours has never gotten to the point of a program dying all together...look I hope LU does well since I'm contributing through my wifes fees for he masters degree... [/quote] [url=[Hidden Content]: Why LU wont get rid of Football this time around. [/url] Here is a post I authored on why I don't think LU will get rid of football, in fact I know they wont. SHSU is in more danger of program cuts than we are, have you seen our endowment growth and figures? You guys have had a significant amount of margin on us in terms of enrollment until recently yet we still have a higher Endowment. I know SHSU hates to admit it but our school is moving in the right direction, and football will just accelerate the process. I'm not saying  SHSU isn't moving in the right direction, only that our direction is undeniably good for the next couple of years. LU System was short sighted, there is no way the same decision will be made twice.

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="822164" timestamp="1280533330"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=71281.msg822163#msg822163 date=1280533149]It looks like LU basketball average more fans then SHSU football in Season. Am I correct?[/quote] For Lamar's sake, I hope you do get your undergrad at UNLV. With your poor understanding of math, wouldn't want to think that Lamar admitted you! You posted the TOTAL attendance and compared it to the TOTAL attendance for Bearkat football. I assure you that SHSU football out-averaged Lamar's basketball. [/quote] Maybe he meant seasonal average as in year to year. We all understand BB plays far more games. As far as coverage of Football on the Athletic site, we had a migration to a completely different site at the end of the spring semester. This can cause things to be lost. I wouldn't have known about the game if it weren't advertised. But I did know about the game and so I went. 

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="821985" timestamp="1280493144"] [quote author=CardAmbassador link=topic=71281.msg821952#msg821952 date=1280461036]1. There was coverage on the athletic site, don't know what your talking about here.[/quote] Do I have to remind you? Oh wait - the [url=[Hidden Content] link[/url] on the web site does not work. Even the fans on this board noticed the LARGE gaps in coverage. If I recall correctly, there were no write-ups in advance of scrimmages (wouldn't that be something that would get your fans interested?) And another reminder, via [url=[Hidden Content] Sporting News[/url]... [quote]3) Lack of Promotion. It seems many things have fallen under the radar. [b]This past fall, the team was practicing and even conducted several scrimmages. There was limited coverage and what coverage came, seemed to hail from the local television station and the Beaumont Enterprise.[/b] If Lamar has interest in recruiting outside of Southeast Texas and even if that is their sole area of focus, they need to publicize their program. There are many ways to do this and I am sure they can do this at minimal cost.[/quote] That wasn't that long ago - I know we all have memory lapses from time to time! [quote author=CardAmbassador link=topic=71281.msg821952#msg821952 date=1280461036]2. LOL, really? You have delusions of grandeur. I'm pretty sure that a PR campaign was in the mix long before you came around. I think you over estimate your self sometimes.[/quote] I was not the only one complaining about the lack of coverage... [quote author=CardAmbassador link=topic=71281.msg821952#msg821952 date=1280461036]3. How is this a problem? I haven't read an article in any publication that has cited this as a problem, not one. I think he is going about recruitment in just the right way. It doesn't matter though, all of the discussion we have had with you on this point is worthless though. It's all opinion, yours and only yours, vs. ours. If more people were criticizing this move besides your very skeptical self I might be concerned. [/quote] Found an article from [url=[Hidden Content] Sporting News[/url] which discusses Lamar's recruiting philosophy from Feb. 7, 2010... [quote]During their first two recruiting classes, Lamar has leaned heavily on travels. To date, over [b]25 players have transferred to the school from other institutions[/b], including 20 junior college players. [b]UTSA on the otherhand has just two transfers[/b], one of which comes in from Penn State and the other, from Division II Texas A&M-Kingsville.[/quote] [/quote] LU did announce the spring and fall scrimmages on the athletic site and on the .edu site. I attend LU, and I read LU news 7 days a week , there was coverage, I'm sorry your memory is failing you. I'll admit the coverage was not huge, but LU doesn't have the type of money for an all out media campaign, we have built tons of dorms and facilities in the past 5 years. I'm sure that we have some significant loans to pay off before we can increase the schools advertising. The article you post does not criticize the two schemes of recruiting, it contrast them. TT, you need to separate opinion from fact. In regards to student attendance it depends on the opponent. The Texas State game probably had 1.5K students. I would say we at the least average close to 1K.

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="821921" timestamp="1280451313"] 1.On the web site - the 'first line of defense' - it was really quiet. You guys got NO coverage of spring football from your own people. Your fans had to rely on the Enterprise and PA News. Isn't that when you would start building up interest, especially as your basketball team limped down the finish line? 2.I found it humorous that the countdown to football started after I mentioned on this site (and the other) about Georgia State's countdown and methods of other recent start-ups in promoting their program. 3.It seems he took that message to heart in a big way...getting more transfers than any program, even the recent ones that I'm aware (thanks to coverage by the media & schools) were talking to and visiting schools. [/quote] 1. There was coverage on the athletic site, don't know what your talking about here. 2. LOL, really? You have delusions of grandeur. I'm pretty sure that a PR campaign was in the mix long before you came around. I think you over estimate your self sometimes. 3. How is this a problem? I haven't read an article in any publication that has cited this as a problem, not one. I think he is going about recruitment in just the right way. It doesn't matter though, all of the discussion we have had with you on this point is worthless though. It's all opinion, yours and only yours, vs. ours. If more people were criticizing this move besides your very skeptical self I might be concerned. Were not saying you can't have an opinion TT only stop presenting that opinion in a fashion that makes it seems factual.

I'm not sure about Roc. Ray Woodard was seen at the Cowboys Camp according to my Facebook page. Request him on Facebook and look at his photos. He has a picture with Wade Phillips.

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