jenks

EC will bounce back. To good not to. EC 35  KV 13

[quote name="TheRef" post="1300199" timestamp="1350188606"] Hey jenks, we have no instant replay, we have two less officials than college and NFL, and we are shorthanded. We could care less who wins the game as long as they play by the rules. A lot of the calls we make are judgement calls which means we have to make the decision and live with the decision that we make, but its our call not the guy sitting up in the stands, or the coach on the sideline that had a totally different angle and did not see it the same way that we did. We are doing our best so that the kids can play the game. That is right I said the kids. That is the reason we are there and the game could not be played without us. Yes we miss calls, and we make bad calls, and we live with the calls that we made. That ref that comes running from 50 yards away to tell me that the ball hit the ground, he had a different angle than I did and I thank him for pulling me off that call so that team does not get some cheap yardage that they did not earn. No I was not at your game last night, but whoever the guys were that called your game they did it for the kids, and if they messed up a call, it was not on purpose it was a human being making a mistake. I will be happy to let you have my striped shirt and my yellow flag and my rule book, and I will go sit in the stands and watch you. I guarantee next week I could find a reason to get on here and complain about something you did that I did not like. But that will never happen because if you did put on the stripes and you did get out on that field you would understand why things happen the way they do. So we will keep calling the game and making judgement calls and hopefully your team wins so I don't have to listen to the reason your team lost was because of the officials. You see we have been there and heard it time and time again. Guess somebody has to be blamed for the loss!     But I will leave you with a quote from a famous coach from our area.         If a team is not good enough to overcome a bad call made by an official, that team was probably not going to win in the first place!                                                                  Coach Darrel Barbay Newton Eagles [/quote] I agree with everything you said. My issue is if every Ref acknowledges they did not see a fumble, why would you give the ball to the other team just because a defender comes out of a pile with a ball. The player that lost the ball did not even realize his possession was even a question and let loose of the ball in the pile.  Mistakes are made when a ref sees a call. Julius Jones scored a touchdown today on the Cowboys game, but was not called a touchdown until instant replay and the ref saw the whole thing. I especially know the job is hard. I was a baseball umpire for years, so I understand. If I did not see a play I was not going to make a call on it.  If I were a referee, which I might sign up for, I would be the one that would let the kids play and limit my calls as much as possible. Its never going to be perfect.

[quote name="ECFAN#1" post="1297604" timestamp="1350021281"] Lord we pray that you watch over our kids as they take the field all over the USA. May they play with respect for the other team, Honor that makes them play up to their best and safe that lets every kid go home better than when the game started. Lord watch over the spectator's as they leave their homes and return back home. Lord let the fans cheer like its the state championship, show respect to the other team like it was their own kids. In Jesus Holy Name we pray. Lord we love You, The Great American People. Let the Good times roll !!! lazais le bon temps roulle !!! [/quote] Your best post ever! I see you in a new light, and its a good light. Thanks ECFan#1

[quote name="ChampionEagles" post="1299624" timestamp="1350152006"] [quote author=jenks link=topic=104628.msg1299615#msg1299615 date=1350151682] EC beat Newton the last 2 years and is still a playoff team. Can't compare them to Warren. No problem with the score last night from me. [/quote] Your right. But I wasn't comparing them to Warren. When Newton beat Warren you come out with a very strongly worded opinion how it was poor sportsmanship to do that and blamed the coach. When EC beat Warren by scoring a lot more points and winning by a larger amount than Newton did, you were a no show on the sportsmanship thing with regard to EC. [/quote] I probably just missed it. I was working rice festival last week. I will check it out.

EC beat Newton the last 2 years and is still a playoff team. Can't compare them to Warren. No problem with the score last night from me.

;[quote name="ChampionEagles" post="1299601" timestamp="1350151250"] [quote author=jenks link=topic=104562.msg1299599#msg1299599 date=1350151100] [quote author=jenks link=topic=104562.msg1299598#msg1299598 date=1350151018] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=104562.msg1299552#msg1299552 date=1350149266] Comprehension skill also must not be a strong point of some either.  I asked a question and you answered.  You're still dwelling on it.  My comments must have hurt your feeling (more sensitive stuff).  Well, get over it.  ;) [/quote] He likes to take it personal for some reason.  :-\ [/quote] I assume he's a he, maybe he is a she? [/quote] Ouch. That hurt. Now recess is over, get off the merry go round and get back to the kindergarten class. [/quote] ;D, There you go Champ, great comeback. Now we are talking sports!

[quote name="jenks" post="1299598" timestamp="1350151018"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=104562.msg1299552#msg1299552 date=1350149266] Comprehension skill also must not be a strong point of some either.  I asked a question and you answered.  You're still dwelling on it.  My comments must have hurt your feeling (more sensitive stuff).  Well, get over it.  ;) [/quote] He likes to take it personal for some reason.  :-\ [/quote] I assume he's a he, maybe he is a she?

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1299552" timestamp="1350149266"] Comprehension skill also must not be a strong point of some either.  I asked a question and you answered.  You're still dwelling on it.  My comments must have hurt your feeling (more sensitive stuff).  Well, get over it.  ;) [/quote] He likes to take it personal for some reason.  :-\

[quote name="jenks" post="1299573" timestamp="1350149844"] :[quote author=ChampionEagles link=topic=104628.msg1299305#msg1299305 date=1350137058] It might would even be poor sportsmanship to complain about the refs. [/quote] :o [/quote] You must not understand sportsmanship.

Like I said at the start. I can live with missed calls. I just don't like plays overturned when not one ref ever saw a fumble.  If ~50% of the plays in the NFL are overturned with instant replay, one has to assume high school refs would be at the very least the same % of the time wrong like pro refs.  When they change a call without it even being seen then they are just guessing. Leave the guessing out, They are already ~50% wrong without having to guess the plays they don't see.

:[quote name="ChampionEagles" post="1299305" timestamp="1350137058"] It might would even be poor sportsmanship to complain about the refs. [/quote] :o

[quote name="ECFAN#1" post="1299131" timestamp="1350108502"] The game was over around 10 PM and a 2HR drive back and then eat something. No one hiding here. Ok, I’m going to make the best out of this and try to make you laugh. It was a dang good thing that Kvillecats  (AKA Litter Box) was not keeping score because I don’t think he can count that high. LOL. WOW, the eagle’s must have been really pissed about the last two years because they unloaded on EC. I think it was channel 6 sports that Newton coach talked about saving plays for EC. I think they cheated because I saw at least 4 or 5 Glenn Roberts on the field at the same time for Newton, on defense and offense LOL. The replacement ref’s killed us. ;D Remember when I said I enjoyed playing Newton because they always play us a good game. Well I take all that back because I didn’t enjoy anything about this game LOL. OK, it’s time to get serious. Newton is not ranked #2 in the state for nothing. They proved it tonight from the first play of the game till the end of the 4th Quarter. There is no sugar coating it, EC was never in the game tonight and Newton was the better team. Congrats on the win Newton and good luck in the playoffs. God Bless Ya and Good Night. [/quote] I've tasted humble pie before.  EC will bounce back.

As sports fans we all watch pro and college referees miss calls and about half of them get overturned with instant replay. So if mistakes are made on those levels then of course they are made at the High school level. Refs are human beings. Refs can change the outcome of a game whether if there call is correct or not. It happens and some will go your team’s way and some won’t. I can live with those calls. What I can’t stand is when a call is made even when none of them see the play. They get into their ref huddle and come up with a call.  The game I was at last night a fumble occurred in the midst of a big gang tackle that most saw the player was down by contact. The back judge had fallen down, no bean bags were thrown, there was a big pileup then the opposing team comes out of the pile with the ball. The refs did not acknowledge a fumble until the coaching staff of the team that came out of the pile with the ball had a fit. They refs had their ref huddle and then gave the ball to the defending team. Cmon refs!

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1298776" timestamp="1350097704"] ttt [/quote] I give up trying to guess. Its probably easy, but what does "ttt" stand for?

Wow, did not see this coming.  ;) Way to play Newton.

Proud of Kountze for what the have accomplished so far this year. Great job Kountze! :)

[quote name="#62jjohnson" post="1296618" timestamp="1349912588"] [quote author=12gage link=topic=104432.msg1296502#msg1296502 date=1349903283] Money, that's the key , all left for more money, tarver left because the board would not update anything, then the board got two coaches that were at best not good, price started to turn things and I think Harris will too just give him time, [/quote] that is always the key , whats sad is you have coaches that coach at places forever look at the coach that coached at newton , i mean newton is in the hunt every year and have a good tradition . i personally dont think that hamshire community wants a coach that is powerful that would demand upgrading where ever he sees fit , they want to play puppet master , now they wonder why its been a 10 yr drought . i hear the freshman class is talented , so maybe there is hope in the near future . [/quote] I am sure you have parents like that at allot of places. I do agree you pay someone to stay, but some coaches want to move to 4A and 5A or even higher.

[quote name="HORNSFAN86" post="1294893" timestamp="1349725027"] I just hope the team comes back together as they seem very divided and frazzled right now. Good luck Horns. [/quote] Injuries are hurting them right now is what I heard.

EC 49 Newton 48 Good Game

Wos Silsbee BC Orangfield HF HJ Buna

I know EC is not as good as WOS, but I do remember similar predictions when HJ was going to play EC. Of course everyone knows HJ upset EC. So I will give it to WOS 35 to 0.

HF has improved, but I believe OF has beat HF the last 4 times they have played them. Since HF is at home I will give them the edge.

[quote name="bigsoftballfan" post="1288319" timestamp="1349133909"] [quote author=Pay the piper link=topic=103904.msg1287314#msg1287314 date=1349036457] Buna just knows that Silsbee will have 3times the amount of kids on the sideline and 10 kids faster then anyone of the Buna team. So thats really something for yall to be proud of Silsbee. [/quote] Silsbee - 822 Buna - 473  How can you compete with a school that has 349 more kids than you do? [/quote] Haven't you seen Hoosiers?  ;)

[quote name="GoDogs27" post="1287629" timestamp="1349061888"] [quote author=football04 link=topic=103881.msg1287568#msg1287568 date=1349057235] Michael, I don't usually agree with your assessments, but I see your point with the offense. They are just not very consistent and seem to rely on big plays. I don't want to get into specifics but we need to put people away and stop jacking around, it's very frustrating, I'll leave it at that. [/quote] Lol have you guys been watching the same ones I have? We put away Crosby and Goose Creek pretty handily, we went blow for blow against one of the best teams in the state in Angleton after overcoming four first quarter turnovers and were a two point conversion away from a potential win, and beat a very good Vidor team on the road in a hostile environment. In each of those games, we put together long, solid drives. I dont get it? You can't beat everyone 56-0. [/quote] Great points Godog.

[quote name="BucFan" post="1287627" timestamp="1349061470"] [quote author=Kvillecats link=topic=103789.msg1283920#msg1283920 date=1348825923] [quote author=Kville_Kats link=topic=103789.msg1283918#msg1283918 date=1348825361] He's been out since the first of last season.. ;) [/quote] I was told he got hurt in practice again by another player. I don't know how true this is. I think Coach Neece need to get out of that wing t and let those young speedy backs run draw plays and screens out the spread. [/quote] Hey Kville, don't you think you need to go and man up on the other threads where you talked so much smack???  JMO [/quote] I can respect a guy for pumping up their team. The only talk that counts is the final score.