82 5A State Champs

LaPorte wins going away.

Agreed....to all of it. I honestly want, and hope, WB has a better season next year. This year was a disappointment, to say the least. There's alot of thing that go on behind the scenes that we don't see. Hopefully, the talent will return and Flanagan turns things around. That's all.

[quote name="82 5A State Champs" post="1329031" timestamp="1352818497"] Flanagan was successfull in doing something no other WB head coach has ever done, in the schools history. He started his first season with a losing record. Durley went 11-4-1, and won a state title, in his first year. Leo Nolan won 8 games in his first season, as well as Jerry Henschel. Al Rabb was 11-3, and lost in the quarterfinals, in his first year. Stump won 8 games, in a hurricane shortened 2005 season, but advanced to the 3rd round of the playoffs, before bowing out. Going 4-6, in your first year, is definitely not what we have come to expect. Our expectation are, and have always been higher. We wont accept too many seasons like this one. You better get things together, and put a much improved team on the field next year, Coach Flanagan, or you will be shortest tenured coach in WB's history! [/quote]Again, at any point did I bash this coach? I don't think so. I was simply comparing the first year under a new HC, to previous HC's. Don't mistake my passion for my school as being hateful towards a person, or coach. Not my intent. Just simply saying that if something doesn't turn around, in a year or two, he may be coaching somewhere else. Maybe I'm wrong for expecting too much.

Sorry if I offended you, but how did I bash this coaching staff? By saying that we, as fans, were unhappy with the outcome of the first season under this regime? At any point in time did I say he was a terrible coach? NO! The whole point of this board is to talk about sports. First of all, I am hard on my team because we have tradition, and that tradition is a winning one. Second, I will be the first one to give our boys, and our coaches, props when they do well. Did you see a WB game this year? My guess is not. So, is it fair of you to call me out for calling it like it is? No. I'm not here to sugar coat anything for anybody. I understand that we had a young team, this year, and I am willing to give this coaching staff another year, or two. But, with the talent roaming the halls at WB, if they can't put a competitive team on the field in 2 or 3 years, wouldn't you agree that something isn't working? Now, maybe I haven't seen everything this coaching staff has to offer, but judging the product that was put on the field, this year, you can understand my/our frustration. I certainly hope next year is an improvement over this year. Believe me, I will be the first to jump on his bandwagon. I realize what he did at Orangefield, and Crosby, but he isn't coaching 3A and 4A football, anymore. This is 5A. There is a difference.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1329120" timestamp="1352825425"] Highpoints96, the information that you obtained is as wrong as it gets, man. [/quote]And this from a Central fan. ;D SMH....armchair quarterbacks. LOL!

[quote name="HIGHpoint96" post="1329049" timestamp="1352819819"] [b]Craig Stumps first year was in 2004, in which he went 2-8. Stump took a year to get it rolling and when he did they rolled. So i'm sure if we check the rest we will see you are wrong about those 82. It totally discredits your validity when you just make stuff up to prove a point[/b]. Now nothing you say can be taken serious because you are just lying and trying to make your self look good while talking about some one elses lively hood. Stay classy 82' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! [/quote]Maybe you should delete MAXPreps from your browser, because you just made yourself sound stupid. I know my stuff!

[quote name="HIGHpoint96" post="1329130" timestamp="1352826387"] Well i tried to look it up and it said stump was the coach in 2004, if thats wrong then my bad. I just hate when people try to sit backand act like they know football because they have ESPN and make comments as if coaches will start trying harder because you called them out on this board. Stump was a phenominal coach, and the Bruins were 5-5 last year and lost a kid that went to UT and some other small D2/D3 and JUCO college players. This year they went 4-6, you say that is not what you are used to in a 1st year, [b]but you just went 5-5 in Coach stumps[/b] 7th year and he did an amazing job. He probably left for a reason. It's an extremely tough district and in a years time the bruins will most likely be better than they are now. [/quote]Just another bit of information that is wrong, from you. WB did not go 5-5, last year, they were 6-4, in the regular season, and lost to Deer Park 31-30, in the Bi-District round. DO NOT try to squabble with me about stats, and the history of WB football. While there are folks on this board that I don't always see eye to eye with, most will tell you I know what I'm talking about. And yes, Stump's first year was 2005. You, and MAX Preps, are both wrong. 2004 was Al Rabb's last year, where yes, they finished 2-8. For the record, this is not Stump's team. This is Flanagan's team. There were only 3 returning starters from last year's squad. And we are not happy with 4-6. We DO expect better of our team. You, should do a better job of checking stats before you get on here and call people out that have been here a LOOOOng time....through thick and thin!

Flanagan was successfull in doing something no other WB head coach has ever done, in the schools history. He started his first season with a losing record. Durley went 11-4-1, and won a state title, in his first year. Leo Nolan won 8 games in his first season, as well as Jerry Henschel. Al Rabb was 11-3, and lost in the quarterfinals, in his first year. Stump won 8 games, in a hurricane shortened 2005 season, but advanced to the 3rd round of the playoffs, before bowing out. Going 4-6, in your first year, is definitely not what we have come to expect. Our expectation are, and have always been higher. We wont accept too many seasons like this one. You better get things together, and put a much improved team on the field next year, Coach Flanagan, or you will be shortest tenured coach in WB's history!

Nice, but ugly win. It's a shame.....no playoffs for WB, this year. First time since 2004, for the Bruins. Thank the Lord this debacle of a season is over!

What's the score, ThirdDay?

WB couldn't beat its way out of a wet paper sack. This is embarrassing, and unacceptable!

WB has absolutely no defense, and the offense isn't much better. Congratulations on a fine, first season Coach. You have successfully done what no other coach in WB history has done....finished his first season with an embarrassing losing record.

Not that it matters, at this point, but who's in at QB for Brook?

....and I would say that I'm looking forward to airing up the basketballs, but our basketball team sucks, too. WB hasn't been competitive in basketball since Chris Coleman was the head coach.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1314915" timestamp="1351627131"] [quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=101051.msg1239652#msg1239652 date=1343217438] I'm with Sarge. I think WB has the potential to suprise a few folks, this year. The Bruins are getting very little respect, in the polls, and that's fine with me. That just means folks are overlooking the little school in the West End. [b]When its all said and done, I think WB will be one of those playoff teams from the 215[/b]. ;) [/quote]uh, no.  ;D [/quote]Um, yeah. When I posted that, at the beginning of the season, I was somewhat optimistic about what I thought we would be able to do. But alas, I was wrong. We won't be making any trips to the playoffs, this year. I still haven't decided if the problem has been the fact that we only had 3 returning starters, or a coaching issue. Either way, I would like to take a Mulligan on this season. I will, once again, be pulling for PAM to make another magical run in the playoffs, and finish what you started last year. Good luck the rest of the way, Titans.

[quote name="ThaGhost(P.A. ALL DAY)" post="1314230" timestamp="1351559959"] [quote author=BrookAlumni link=topic=105326.msg1313965#msg1313965 date=1351540661] [quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=105326.msg1313725#msg1313725 date=1351525319] Back to the topic at hand. I voted for PAM, in the poll, not because I've given up on my team, but because I'm a realist. Based on what I've seen out of WB, this year, it ain't gonna happen. Granted, the Bruins are only playing 3 returning starters from last years team, but there have just been entirely too many mistakes, in too many games. The worst part is, they don't seem to be correcting them. Hopefully, I'm wrong, and WB will sneak away with a win, but I think the odds will be in the Titans favor in this one. As I've earlier said, no playoffs for Flanagan in his first year. I certainly hope it gets better for next year. [/quote] WB    35 PAM  31 After what i heard I will say that I think flanigan was under estimated in what he was accomplishing so far this year, Ill just say that if WB loses this game then it will be by a small margin but if Flanigan wins then he has pulled out the biggest smoke screens ive seen in high school football. It all comes together against PAM.....if its close than next year they may be ok but [b]If my source is wrong on this than time to start Looking for a new coach[/b] [/quote] [b]I'm sorry but Brook didn't put up 35 points on NS[/b] (ranked 6th at the time) how do you expect them to put up 35 on PAM? Check the bold...you just may want to start looking for a new one because your source is not only WRONG but DEAD WRONG! [/quote]You're right. But look at the stats. They are almost identical, except the one that matters most...points scored. It looks to me like WB was able to hang with NS, but had 5 turnovers. THAT was the difference. [Hidden Content]

Back to the topic at hand. I voted for PAM, in the poll, not because I've given up on my team, but because I'm a realist. Based on what I've seen out of WB, this year, it ain't gonna happen. Granted, the Bruins are only playing 3 returning starters from last years team, but there have just been entirely too many mistakes, in too many games. The worst part is, they don't seem to be correcting them. Hopefully, I'm wrong, and WB will sneak away with a win, but I think the odds will be in the Titans favor in this one. As I've earlier said, no playoffs for Flanagan in his first year. I certainly hope it gets better for next year.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1312581" timestamp="1351380374"] [quote author=bobbymcgee link=topic=105295.msg1312565#msg1312565 date=1351379669] Just losing 34-7 against NS is a moral victory for WB. I think they'll give PAM a game. [/quote]from what i heard from NS folks that they didnt throw the book at WB. That doesnt bode well for next week. [/quote]Well, I just looked at the game stats, and they are almost identical. Close to the same number of passing yards, and close to the same number of rushing yards. In fact, WB had more first downs than the Mustangs. The difference seems to be the 5 turnovers the Bruins had (2 fumbles lost, and 3 INT's). I'm not sure how long the NS coaches left the starters in, before they called off the dogs, but I was encouraged by the stats.

[quote name="PAMFAM10" post="1310987" timestamp="1351301289"] Figure Somebody To Shamed To Post A Update [/quote]Not ashamed, just not at the game and trying to find out a score. We knew WB wouldn't win this game. We are having a down year. It wasn't that long ago when PAM was having trouble winning games....or have you forgotten so soon?

Well, how are the Bruins doing?

[quote name="BrookAlumni" post="1308692" timestamp="1351099294"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=104984.msg1308434#msg1308434 date=1351065599] [quote author=BrookAlumni link=topic=104984.msg1308034#msg1308034 date=1351012279] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=104984.msg1307709#msg1307709 date=1350986466] [quote author=BrookAlumni link=topic=104984.msg1306027#msg1306027 date=1350786447] Do yall think that Clack or Padia will start this game against northshore and whats your predictions? but the defense is going to be the ones to me that are going to make or break this game. They got to get some turnovers and at least get some three and outs or something and that has not been seen alot this year. and for the qb start i say let the junior get another game started to see if he can get some things moving if not you can always put clack back in and roll with him but the Offense when facing a good team needs to score some points to help that defense out! [/quote] I would like to see the 10th grader playing JV taking snaps on varsity. He has a great arm and is a really good athlete. Plus he can't do any worse than Clack or Padia. [/quote] WOW Yeoj you must be the 10th graders friend cause if you know anything about WB and seen the JV kid play and practice you know that kid is not even close to being ready for Varsity...lol..maybe next year he can make a play for the spot but I would bet against it, Also Mouse your comment on Clack being mobile is a joke as well, clack has the least amount of yards on the ground on the team and has been sacked at least 6 times per game, where as in two games Padia has shown good running and scrambling and has 2 rushing TDs  and more rushing yards than clack, oh yea clack has 0 rushing TDs!  All said no matter who starts they lose to north shore 9 out of 10 times, but would be nice to see Flanagan get some experience for Padia since he will most likely be the guy next year! [/quote] You must be Padia or his parent. He's a hard worker but not the answer. And the 10 grader is as ready as Clack or Padia is. Its not like either one is setting the field on fire! [/quote] No YEOJ im not either of the two just a westbrook fan and alumni who follows very close on what [b]Westbrook [/b] is doing, I go to practices and talk to the kids, I go to the Games to show support but as a football fan and ex player I see some things in the team that i like to express on this site. Look the 10th grader aint even close to being ready cause if he was and gave them a better option he would be in the game or at least on varsity, ! [b]Takes more than a QB to win games [/b] but the only thing i can be accused of is being a Bleacher Coach, which i find fun,[b] Hopefully Clack and Padia both get utilized for what they bring to the game so that they can both get a little exposure [/b] , heck Clack is a Senior and needs all the feild time he can get and Padia is a Junior who needs all the experience he can get, so good luck to the Bruins and Im sure this coach will figure it out in a few years or[b] he will be coaching somewhere else,[/b] I am sure of that and dont have to be a parent or player to see it! [b][b]And the only thing keeping these kids from setting the field on fire is the play calling!![/b][/b][/quote]I agree with everything you said, Alum, but.....West Brook is spelled as 2 words! LOL!

Well, I donated last time, and paid for a shirt......still never got the shirt. >:(

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1306401" timestamp="1350843779"] like i told 82, its easy to beat NS if you follow the game plan PAM did and add in pooch kicks. with that being said: NS 58 WB 17 [b]WB coaches wont make any adjustments after a close 1st half, watch[/b].  ;) [/quote]You're probably right.

The problem I have seen, at least with Clack in at QB, is that he stares down Spearman, and only throws to Spearman. Now, I didn't see the Channelview game, but from looking at the stats, it looks to me like Padilla threw to more WR's than just the one. WB will have to play the entire 4 quarters, to even have a chance. And from what I've seen out of this offense, it's too hit and miss. They haven't been able to drive the field, against a team over .500, all year long. Padilla seems to bring another dynamic, that Clack doesn't have, in his ability to run the ball. I say, play Padilla, and start tuning up for next season. You may even put Clack in at WR. He's certainly tall enough. NS will probably push WB around the first half, and will put in the 2's and 3's in the second half. This will probably be another LP/DP game, in that WB's defense wont be able to stop NS's offense, and the Mustang offense will probably hang 50 on us. I'm not being a pessimist, just keeping it real.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1305625" timestamp="1350750559"] [quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=104907.msg1305496#msg1305496 date=1350739206] From the sounds of it, with Clack out, and Padia in at QB, the Bruin offense has been spreading the ball around a bit. WB also got back Stephen Wycoff, to help at the RB spot. I'm not naive enough to think that our offensive woes have been solved, and I know this is just Channelview, but maybe, just maybe, the Bruins have stumbled onto something here. Sounds to me like they didn't throw exclusively to Spearman, in this game, either. Thats good. I'm glad to see them use more of their offensive options. Hopefully, its a sign of things to come. While we're not mathematically out of the playoff picture, just yet, admittedly it will be tough to get in. WB has to win 2 of its last 3 to make it. With NS, PAM, and Sterling left to play, it wont be easy. WB should beat Sterling, but wont beat NS. The PAM game will most likely be the key to getting in the playoffs. If the Bruins somehow steal a win, against the Titans, then they should qualify. Lose to them, and we're sitting at 2-4, in district, and that wont get us in. [/quote] [b]NS is beatable.[/b] [/quote]Probably not with this WB team. But, anything can happen. That's why we play the game.