rc2182

AMY CAT 74 actually it's not to late to get your daughter on a select softball team if you are interested their is a 14u team practicing at Ozen softball field at 2:00 pm Sunday bring her then if interested.

Some one don't know much about nothing,what kind of sense would that make, to put some one in a head coach position that have never been their, not to mention replacing the only coach still playing in 20-4a ,and Beaumont for that matter, and heading to the regional tournament.Give it a rest, coach Saveat has done a good job with this team ,weather you like his coaching style or not.

very good post Ridge ,you took the words right out of my mouth.

Congratulations Nederland on a great season ,your team along with Ozen and Central ,makes this district fun to watch.

It's very hard to read some of the things said, on this site ,such as a traveling circus, but I do understand ,you have various people on this site.I happen to be a supporter of Ozen, and never realized it was a circus,but if it is a circus,with those comments ,maybe they can use a few clowns, you should audition.

OZEN WAS OUTPLAYED OUT COACHED AND TOTALLY FLAT COULD NOT BUY A THREE CONGRATS ON SEASON GOOD LUCK BARBERS HILL IN STATE

Congratulations Ozen ,on a big come from behind victory, 20-4a looking good.Thought coach Saveat did a good job with his subs.and timely time outs.Giving credit, wear credit is due.

I personally think most of the JV players for  Ozen ,can be starters on a lot of the area varsity teams.

On a side note ,Dove  I commend you for never getting on here, and bragging on your kids, they played well ,can't wait for their varsity debut.

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1176054" timestamp="1328938647"] [quote author=team first link=topic=95812.msg1176050#msg1176050 date=1328938079] Did ozen jv win tonight? [/quote] As well as Ozen JV played, Ned hung around until the last few minutes of the game. Pretty much the same story as the Varsity squad, missed open shots. [/quote]  NB DAWG ,give credit wear credit is due, in the JV game #23 was on the bench along with the other starters ,when Ned. made their run ,put them back in, and the lead swelled. In the varsity game Ozen simply out played Ned. in all aspects ,other than free throw shooting, Ned. tried to play hack a Shaq. ;D ;D

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1176084" timestamp="1328951495"] I want details of this game, not talk about the Jv squad of Nederland missing shots.  I want to know what Ozen did on defense and offens and what the Nederland coach did to adjust to it.  What players showed up and didnt show up.  From judging on the outcome, I would say that DV was dead on when he stated that Big Ned peaked 2 weeks ago.  I will eat crow because I thought Nederland would take it. I knew Nederland would have heck on their 2 trips to Beaumont, but i realistically thought they would lose once here. Great job, Ozen.  Now, we have a 2 way tie for first with nederland facing yet another tough game with the Bears. [/quote]    Here are your details Soulja ,from a famous football coach I am sure we all know,"THEY ARE  WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE "

I guess that makes me rc the greek, prediction made two weeks ago, Ozen really brought it tonight.I don't know about English being out coached ,but he looked like an average joe to me.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1174850" timestamp="1328795390"] No you told me to take my emotions out of it and I did...I will bet you a $20 on the game, just because its STILL NEDERLAND...at the end of the day.  ;)...How bout it? [/quote] Dickie V. thats the easiest 20 dollars you will make :) :) :)

[quote name="uandme08" post="1174510" timestamp="1328729208"] [quote author=rc2182 link=topic=95625.msg1174461#msg1174461 date=1328725832] [quote author=uandme08 link=topic=95625.msg1174330#msg1174330 date=1328716362] [quote author=rc2182 link=topic=95625.msg1174306#msg1174306 date=1328715292] I would think everyone would do a little research b4 we get to discussing coaches credentials,not sure about one coach but the one at Ozen happen to play high school basketball ,but even at that ,there are a lot of things you have to take into consideration does he have parent,community, BISD(PRINCIPAL,AD, SUPERINT, PLAYERS ETC....) and last but not least how many shots did he miss (the coach),reb. did he get ,Players Play Coaches Coach. [/quote] Yes there are alot of things to take into consideration but there are some things you have no control over. Honestly I don't know why the parents are not there, I have always felt that for every child participating there should be at least 1 person from the family showing support. The community is full of bandwagon fans, nobody really showed up for the football games but when they got a decent win 10 more people showed up. It's sad to look in the gym at a home game and see maybe 50 people. I understand the coach doesn't miss the shots or gets out rebounded or turns the ball over but he makes the decision as to who will be on the court. When you see a kid make a mistake, you don't bench him and not tell him what he did wrong or show him an alternative. When you have back to back turnovers, you don't call a timeout and not say nothing in the huddle. When you go down by 7 and you see some of your team getting discouraged, you don't just sit down and not say a word. There was nothing coming from Ozen's sideline last night. If it wasn't for 4 of the 12 fans that showed up, nothing would have been heard. No motivation at all and the lead was maybe 7 (if that) at the beginning of the 4th quarter. I'm no coach and never want that responsibility but I've been around long enough to know a thing or 2 IMO. Something is lacking with Ozen's basketball program and I won't put all of the blame on the coaching staff. I'm frustrated and don't want another headache from last night....[b]I agree uandme something is not right with the program and it is frustrating to see Ozen in such a rut ,all i'm saying is it is easy to look ,and place blame on the coach or leader of the team ,look at the president ,all blame falls on his shoulders but is he the total blame for the predictment the country is in .Back to Ozen ,things that might be taken into consideration is loosing three possibly four starters on the team ,one to grades ,two to discplinary reasons,and one to concentrating just on track,just saying.  [/b] [/quote] [/quote] Ok RC2182, I get what you are saying but there are obstacles that have to be crossed along the way. Ozen has won games without the 3 or 4 mentioned previously and they have lost some but by this point adjustments should have been made and you should know what you are working with and how to piece it together. Just speaking from watching last night, it was a nightmare. There were no adjustments and no guidance. To walk into a huddle at timeout and not say nothing to motivate them was useless. It was almost comical that he didn't know what to say to them. I even asked my son what was said in the locker room and/or on the bus and it was nothing worth mentioning. We have to play the had we are dealt with and again at this point, it should be known what's working and when it's not working what adjustments need to be made. There is more than one way to skin a cat and last night Ozen only had one plan in motion and it failed. [/quote]                OK, uandme sound like you are very aware of situations in all aspects, so with that being said I hope everyone is learning something ,coaches and players both ,season is long from being over ,hopefully they will bounce back.

I have always been told ,as a fan of whomever you support, if we not part of the solutions we are part of the problem......  :( :( :( :(

[quote name="uandme08" post="1174330" timestamp="1328716362"] [quote author=rc2182 link=topic=95625.msg1174306#msg1174306 date=1328715292] I would think everyone would do a little research b4 we get to discussing coaches credentials,not sure about one coach but the one at Ozen happen to play high school basketball ,but even at that ,there are a lot of things you have to take into consideration does he have parent,community, BISD(PRINCIPAL,AD, SUPERINT, PLAYERS ETC....) and last but not least how many shots did he miss (the coach),reb. did he get ,Players Play Coaches Coach. [/quote] Yes there are alot of things to take into consideration but there are some things you have no control over. Honestly I don't know why the parents are not there, I have always felt that for every child participating there should be at least 1 person from the family showing support. The community is full of bandwagon fans, nobody really showed up for the football games but when they got a decent win 10 more people showed up. It's sad to look in the gym at a home game and see maybe 50 people. I understand the coach doesn't miss the shots or gets out rebounded or turns the ball over but he makes the decision as to who will be on the court. When you see a kid make a mistake, you don't bench him and not tell him what he did wrong or show him an alternative. When you have back to back turnovers, you don't call a timeout and not say nothing in the huddle. When you go down by 7 and you see some of your team getting discouraged, you don't just sit down and not say a word. There was nothing coming from Ozen's sideline last night. If it wasn't for 4 of the 12 fans that showed up, nothing would have been heard. No motivation at all and the lead was maybe 7 (if that) at the beginning of the 4th quarter. I'm no coach and never want that responsibility but I've been around long enough to know a thing or 2 IMO. Something is lacking with Ozen's basketball program and I won't put all of the blame on the coaching staff. I'm frustrated and don't want another headache from last night....[b]I agree uandme something is not right with the program and it is frustrating to see Ozen in such a rut ,all i'm saying is it is easy to look ,and place blame on the coach or leader of the team ,look at the president ,all blame falls on his shoulders but is he the total blame for the predictment the country is in .Back to Ozen ,things that might be taken into consideration is loosing three possibly four starters on the team ,one to grades ,two to discplinary reasons,and one to concentrating just on track,just saying.  [/b] [/quote]

[quote name="COUG4LIFE" post="1174338" timestamp="1328716771"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95625.msg1174325#msg1174325 date=1328716114] [quote author=rc2182 link=topic=95625.msg1174306#msg1174306 date=1328715292] I would think everyone would do a little research b4 we get to discussing coaches credentials,not sure about one coach but the one at Ozen happen to play high school basketball ,but even at that ,there are a lot of things you have to take into consideration does he have parent,community, BISD(PRINCIPAL,AD, SUPERINT, PLAYERS ETC....) and last but not least how many shots did he miss (the coach),reb. did he get ,Players Play Coaches Coach. [/quote] No, coaches do not shoot a single shot, however, it is the head coaches responsibility to put those kids in a POSITION to win...To lose by 17 to a Livingston team that has struggled all season to get W's, and you are fighting to try to win, what USED to be a routine district championship, is unacceptable. Say what you want, thats just the truth.  Its nothing personal, but the BISD programs are falling from greatness to medicrity seemingly overnight. Why? The kids are still there.... ::) [/quote] Dick I have to agree with you on this one.  It seems like RC has some personal feelings about the Ozen coach.  Mabey a relitive or something.........  Who knows [/quote]No Coug4life no personal feelings ,however seems as though you have some for Buna though ,on a BB site I really don't know why someone from Buna would even  be on this site, a team probably have not won one district game in who knows how many years .Go back on your baseball site were your voice may be of some importance.

I would think everyone would do a little research b4 we get to discussing coaches credentials,not sure about one coach but the one at Ozen happen to play high school basketball ,but even at that ,there are a lot of things you have to take into consideration does he have parent,community, BISD(PRINCIPAL,AD, SUPERINT, PLAYERS ETC....) and last but not least how many shots did he miss (the coach),reb. did he get ,Players Play Coaches Coach.

I guess you are right ,changes whole complexity of Friday night game.

59-42 Liv. wins

Ozen down 11 with one min. left. :o :o :o

True ,its no easy task to beat Liv. in Liv., Ozen have to take one game at a time .Hopefully they do not over look Liv. thinking about Ned.

Agreed, but I will go as far to say ,which ever team comes out as the district leader next year will make a deep run in the playoffs based on the talent level coming up from all three teams Ned.,Ozen, Central .Hate looking past this year but our district is not very strong compared to others ,however it is fun and competive to watch locally.

Thanks for that info Soulja, kind of thought thats what they would do ,just thinking ahead it could possibly happen.

Guys ,you are going to eventually have to accept the idea Nederland is good ,but barring a miricle ,no chance for state ,no time soon ,it's a long road to get there for even the very best of teams .With that being said be proud of the accomplishments and strides they have made ,but state with the team they have now, no way.