Bigdog

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Agreed.

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1383901" timestamp="1362772155"] Final LCM 2 Deer Park 1 *reverts by tournament rule [/quote] explain the tournament rule?

We are not going to bash coaches on this forum.  >:(

Any update on the hiring process??  Has it at least started?

[quote name="RaiderGirl92" post="1381357" timestamp="1362152644"] [size=18pt][color=blue]I see people saying Lumberton wont win a game again this season!!![/color][/size] [size=18pt][color=red]Just wait... The Raiders are coming back this season (:[/color][/size] [/quote] You have to give her an "A" for enthusiasm that is for sure.  ;D

[quote name="fisherman2" post="1381774" timestamp="1362236284"] UT would be a great place. It's a beautiful stadium, it's in a nice city, it's the state capital, and whether you like it or not it is the first thing people think of when they hear the words Texas and football. The only downside I can think of is weather as it's not closed in. Also I think indoor stadiums take away from the game of football I would rather the state game be played in a backyard than an indoor stadium personally. [/quote] traffic would be more of a nightmare than it already is. 

any games today?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1379008" timestamp="1361735826"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109680.msg1379005#msg1379005 date=1361735423] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109680.msg1378989#msg1378989 date=1361733907] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109680.msg1378975#msg1378975 date=1361732600] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109680.msg1378968#msg1378968 date=1361731685] Abe, can I ask you a serious question? What do you think that Brian English would have done with THAT bunch at Central? [/quote]That's a hard question. That's a lot of talent to coach! ;D Don't know if Coach E would implement his style of play/coaching or play a more up tempo style. His record shows that he can do more with less, and suggests that Central would still be playing if he were their coach. I didn't see the game (obviously), so it's hard to say what would have happened in THAT game. He may have done a better job at adjusting (during the game) to the matchup against a team like Georgetown. Sometimes though, the coach can put his players in the right position, but kids gotta execute that plan. What do you think? [/quote] I think you hit the nail on the head! In the playoffs its ALL about coaching adjustments and match ups...I know what Coach E can do adjustment wise, and I also know what the Central coach lacks in that area...NOT that Coach Lee is just that terrible, but Coach English is just that much better.  I do understand that this Central team is a very young group, but with that you also must implement another coaching dynamic, and thats taking advantage of the "too young to know any better" factor, and allow them to play loose as well... English HAS done more with less, and I feel that with more he would DO more!  ;) [/quote]DV this is an interesting comment. Did you know your dad started 4-5 freshmen on varsity during one of his coaching gigs?  He allowed those freshmen the latitude to screw up but learn from their mistakes, and probably the best contribution he made was to allow those freshmen to play to[color=red] their strengths[/color]. His system matched the players he had, not the system trying to mold the players. [/quote] I actually learned that from HIM! He always said that he would always custom build the system to fit the kids and not the other way around..You HAVE to let young teams find their way..I think Central will be very good in due time...They may have been one of the most talented teams in the region this year, but lost early. However wih the right guy at the helm (not that Lee was the "wrong" guy) this team could have done a bit more...I happen to know a coach that took a team that started 3 sophs, and played 6 other sophs, to the state championship game... ::) ::)...Remember that, Dove? ;) [/quote] Who is your Dad DV?  I am curious now.  You can PM  me his name if you don't want to put it on the board.

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1372751" timestamp="1360632980"] I'm putting in a bid on having a show further west atleast once.  Give Brenham, Montgomery, Summer Creek and the Houston area a chance to attend.  I'm sure we could draw a bigger crowd than PNG VS Ned.  (Shouldn't be hard) [/quote] Bite me , BF.  ::) ;D

[quote name="PAMFAM10" post="1379140" timestamp="1361763383"] [b]Ppl Love To Argue About Nothing[/b] [/quote] Kind of the point of message boards. :)

Enough.

[quote name="SFA85" post="1378052" timestamp="1361566099"] [quote author=dogbite link=topic=109589.msg1377659#msg1377659 date=1361506131] [quote author=SFA85 link=topic=109589.msg1377636#msg1377636 date=1361504585] 12 Athletic and 1 Academic from PAM.  Everybody knows Nuemann worries about winning games.  Could care less about helping kids get looks for college.... [/quote] Correction.. Neumann cares about trying to turn young men into quality educated members of society... Something lots of people don't worry about anymore... The proof is in the pudding [/quote] Don't shoot the messenger.  My statement was confirmed by a parent/co-worker who just happened to play for Nuemann and current has a son playing for him as well...... [/quote] So you use one persons opinion to form your own?  And then make it look like a statement of fact?

[quote name="Boneyard Boys" post="1377160" timestamp="1361458321"] Vidor is obviously Nederlands new rival... We are the only team in the district who can even give them a good game and not get blown out and embarrassed.  8) [/quote] Only the last couple of years, and Montana is gone now.  What is the overall record again??

[quote name="Boneyard Boys" post="1377158" timestamp="1361458112"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=109276.msg1374915#msg1374915 date=1360986716] [quote author=Razor link=topic=109276.msg1374897#msg1374897 date=1360985181] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=109276.msg1374825#msg1374825 date=1360981092] [quote author=Razor link=topic=109276.msg1374803#msg1374803 date=1360978682] no doubt that png is our rival, however, indian faithful, the rivalry would be a bit more fun if you guys played along...this year's game really was about as uninteresting as any I have been to and IMO it was mostly because you guys had resigned yourself to being hammered...it seemed to me that png played "not to lose" rather than trying to win and it made for a very uninteresting game. vidor, please stop with the rivalry junk...you aren't Nederland's rival today, you weren't yesterday and won't be tomorrow...you guys just had 2 of your best teams ever and still fell short both times...go strike up something with LCM or somebody who doesn't have a real rival...heck that should work since I hear that LCM wants to be png's rival (and can't)...it can be the "We really want a rival" bowl. (here is where rob chimes in) [/quote] Hey don't be acting like we started this. We have kept out mouths shut cuz someone is too scared to be our rival. It was your guys who did this razor. [/quote] ...or mytwocents chimes in...why would Nederland be scared to be vidors rival...the overall record is EXTREMELY lopsided in Nederland's favor...and Nederland does not "start" talk of a rivalry with vidor...vidor spews hatred and animosity towards Nederland and Nederland just keeps beating vidor. [/quote] Look who started the thread man. Come on man. Hatred and animosity?? Really?? [/quote] The hatred and animosity is coming from Nederland, remember you are the ones who vandalized our school before the game. [Hidden Content] [/quote] Whatever, there is no proof it was anyone from Nederland, in fact didn't they question some Vidor students??

Not to mention installing a system, hiring assistants ( if needed) and evaluating players.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1376838" timestamp="1361396825"] NED Vidor PNG [b]Central[/b] ***per today*** [/quote] I don't know BG, since there are currently no BISD coaches running a 4a program right now, its getting late in the year!

[quote name="cougar14" post="1376359" timestamp="1361334834"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109433.msg1376351#msg1376351 date=1361334357] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109433.msg1376331#msg1376331 date=1361333027] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109433.msg1375435#msg1375435 date=1361199164] [quote author=fisherman2 link=topic=109433.msg1375419#msg1375419 date=1361190273] Kelly getting back on the winning track did nothing for them! I am still 100% sure they are better than every team ahead of them besides Kountze. [/quote]Since the rankings are not comparing apples to apples, they should be based on the 'eyeball' method rather than wins/losses, IMO. Hard to do when there are so many teams to watch for consideration of the rankings. Nobody has seen Crosby or Humble play more than one game a piece, yet their number of wins place them high in the rankings since they were both 15-1 in district. I guess Crosby is ahead of Humbe bc they won the coin flip for the 1st seed! ;D [b]Humble won at Crosby early in district. Crosby won at Humble late in district, so Crosby is AHEAD by two spots. [/b] Ozen won at Ned early in district. Ned won at Ozen late in district, however Ned is two spots BEHIND Ozen. Ned also beat Silsbee twice, yet Silsbee is ahead of Ned. Also , HJ beat Ned, yet HJ is behind Ned in the rankings. They don't always make sense, but I realize they are just opinions. Kelly will never have a chance to prove they are better than the other schools bc they won't play this year. Again, way too hard to compare apples to oranges. Now that the playoffs are here, everyone has a chance to prove how good they really are! 8) [/quote]Crosby finished second because we lost AT Humble by two points and won at home by 12. Looks like y'all proved their point anyway with an 8 point loss to the 3rd place 20-4a team. [/quote]Huh?? Loss to a 3rd pl team?? We beat a #1 team by 8 who lost a flip and was seeded 2nd. [/quote]Ned finished 3rd in 20-4a but I was talking about why you said Crosby was in front of Humble. We lost in Humble by 2 pts and won at Crosby by 12 pts. Maybe we beat the sense of y'all so bad in football your memory is still bad. [Hidden Content]-(crosby,tx)/basketball/schedule.htm [/quote] You might need to revisit the football board and check the Ned vs Crosby score before you pop off.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1376349" timestamp="1361334127"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=109433.msg1376334#msg1376334 date=1361333256] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109433.msg1376331#msg1376331 date=1361333027] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109433.msg1375435#msg1375435 date=1361199164] [quote author=fisherman2 link=topic=109433.msg1375419#msg1375419 date=1361190273] Kelly getting back on the winning track did nothing for them! I am still 100% sure they are better than every team ahead of them besides Kountze. [/quote]Since the rankings are not comparing apples to apples, they should be based on the 'eyeball' method rather than wins/losses, IMO. Hard to do when there are so many teams to watch for consideration of the rankings. Nobody has seen Crosby or Humble play more than one game a piece, yet their number of wins place them high in the rankings since they were both 15-1 in district. I guess Crosby is ahead of Humbe bc they won the coin flip for the 1st seed! ;D [b]Humble won at Crosby early in district. Crosby won at Humble late in district, so Crosby is AHEAD by two spots. [/b] Ozen won at Ned early in district. Ned won at Ozen late in district, however Ned is two spots BEHIND Ozen. Ned also beat Silsbee twice, yet Silsbee is ahead of Ned. Also , HJ beat Ned, yet HJ is behind Ned in the rankings. They don't always make sense, but I realize they are just opinions. Kelly will never have a chance to prove they are better than the other schools bc they won't play this year. Again, way too hard to compare apples to oranges. Now that the playoffs are here, everyone has a chance to prove how good they really are! 8) [/quote]Crosby finished second because we lost AT Humble by two points and won at home by 12. Looks like y'all proved their point anyway with an 8 point loss to the 3rd place 20-4a team. [/quote] [b]And you squeaked by the fourth place team.  Whats your point?[/b][/quote]Point is with both teams having nearly identical bodies of work there's a ten point +- differential for Crosby. I guess you think Ned squeaked by Humble too since y'all only won by 8? I wouldn't call a 9 point win a squeak though. Crosby unfortunately played to their competition instead of winning that on by 15 as they should have, look at PN-G's body of work and you can see they played up to theirs. Like I said before though, good job by the Indians even making it that close. [/quote] We beat the 15-1 (28-8) team,  by 8.  You beat a team that was fourth place and was 7-7 and 12-18.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1376331" timestamp="1361333027"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109433.msg1375435#msg1375435 date=1361199164] [quote author=fisherman2 link=topic=109433.msg1375419#msg1375419 date=1361190273] Kelly getting back on the winning track did nothing for them! I am still 100% sure they are better than every team ahead of them besides Kountze. [/quote]Since the rankings are not comparing apples to apples, they should be based on the 'eyeball' method rather than wins/losses, IMO. Hard to do when there are so many teams to watch for consideration of the rankings. Nobody has seen Crosby or Humble play more than one game a piece, yet their number of wins place them high in the rankings since they were both 15-1 in district. I guess Crosby is ahead of Humbe bc they won the coin flip for the 1st seed! ;D [b]Humble won at Crosby early in district. Crosby won at Humble late in district, so Crosby is AHEAD by two spots. [/b] Ozen won at Ned early in district. Ned won at Ozen late in district, however Ned is two spots BEHIND Ozen. Ned also beat Silsbee twice, yet Silsbee is ahead of Ned. Also , HJ beat Ned, yet HJ is behind Ned in the rankings. They don't always make sense, but I realize they are just opinions. Kelly will never have a chance to prove they are better than the other schools bc they won't play this year. Again, way too hard to compare apples to oranges. Now that the playoffs are here, everyone has a chance to prove how good they really are! 8) [/quote]Crosby finished second because we lost AT Humble by two points and won at home by 12. Looks like y'all proved their point anyway with an 8 point loss to the 3rd place 20-4a team. [/quote] And you squeaked by the fourth place team.  Whats your point?

[quote name="cougar14" post="1376307" timestamp="1361331403"] Come on SC, y'all have nearly twice the kids Ozen does. Don't tell me Sharp is all y'all got over there. [/quote] Sounds like it.  19-4a has only one left in the playoffs.

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1376082" timestamp="1361316070"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=108568.msg1376074#msg1376074 date=1361315479] [quote author=Farmer Fran link=topic=108568.msg1376062#msg1376062 date=1361313013] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=108568.msg1376028#msg1376028 date=1361309375] There have already been two HJ threads locked, my advise is to stick to the topic and knock off the personal stuff or this one will follow the other two. [/quote] We are sticking to the topic!! Who's getting personal? [/quote] I am not going to back through all of the pages and list it for you.  I saw several comments that were out of line. Sure boss!!! Anything you say boss!! ;D [/quote] Check your pms Farmer Fran.

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1376062" timestamp="1361313013"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=108568.msg1376028#msg1376028 date=1361309375] There have already been two HJ threads locked, my advise is to stick to the topic and knock off the personal stuff or this one will follow the other two. [/quote] We are sticking to the topic!! Who's getting personal? [/quote] I am not going to back through all of the pages and list it for you.  I saw several comments that were out of line.

There have already been two HJ threads locked, my advise is to stick to the topic and knock off the personal stuff or this one will follow the other two.

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