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[quote name="robanadana" post="1302368" timestamp="1350442885"] Wow, the battle over a drainage ditch separating two halves of North Port Arthur; or South Beaumont depending on your vantage point. So, who cares because it has absolutely no relevance. All of the Real Football for 20-4A is being played at Da' Butch. So, quit hijacking the board until y'all man up and show up! Raidergirl has more swag! BTW, there were plenty of Vs going up on nederville road and all the way down until it turns into purple irrelevance.... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( [/quote] Wow, you forgot, we already showed up at your house and left with the win.  What happened to all of the "We're playing in the boneyard, Mid-County leaves with the loss" stuff?

- The dancing indian forgot his little bells for his ankles !!!

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1302170" timestamp="1350422016"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1302167#msg1302167 date=1350421837] "Always be faithful, until your getting beat like a drum...." [/quote] At least you know our fight song well enough to satirize it. The only non-Nederland fans who know your fight song are the college fans you stole it from. ;D [/quote] Unfortunately my parents graduated from PNG, but they saw the light and moved across the tracks. :)

"Always be faithful, until your getting beat like a drum...."

[quote name="C O Wilson Bullpups" post="1302132" timestamp="1350420095"] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=104723.msg1301995#msg1301995 date=1350411319] What I like about Nederland? You can always find cheap section 8 apartments. [/quote] Like there are no section 8 apartment in Port Neches & Groves, Texas???? ::) :o [/quote] There are none in Nederland.

And that there are no Section 8 apartments in Nederland.

They could always play PNG's varsity!  whoops, wrong thread! :)

[quote name="CAL2TEX" post="1301939" timestamp="1350407244"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104696.msg1301395#msg1301395 date=1350337415] When the PNG fans leave early!!!! Oh, but I forgot they have an attendance record 30 something years ago! ;) [/quote] Hating...  pretty much a full time job for you, eh? [/quote] Nope, just talking smack, same as you.

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1301628" timestamp="1350355103"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301605#msg1301605 date=1350354362] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301557#msg1301557 date=1350351033] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301553#msg1301553 date=1350350550] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301481#msg1301481 date=1350346484] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301479#msg1301479 date=1350346282] I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :) [/quote] I'm fine with y'all having those fifteen years. If we erase those, we erase some of our own best seasons (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2010 come to mind). Besides, it'll take at least 15 more for Nederland to catch up to us in MCM, and Neumann has to retire some time. ;D [/quote] You can always hope :) [/quote] How old is Neumann, anyways? He's got to be in the mid to late 50s. [/quote] Don't know, but  if he's like Hooks, he might coach into his 70s. [/quote] Depends. Once you get past the 40 year mark in Texas public education, it's costing you money to stay on payroll because of the way the retirement system is structured. If he sticks around, it'll solely be for the love of the game. [/quote] Not true.  They take your best three year average.  My mother has passed the 40 year mark and is still going strong.

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1301557" timestamp="1350351033"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301553#msg1301553 date=1350350550] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301481#msg1301481 date=1350346484] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301479#msg1301479 date=1350346282] I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :) [/quote] I'm fine with y'all having those fifteen years. If we erase those, we erase some of our own best seasons (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2010 come to mind). Besides, it'll take at least 15 more for Nederland to catch up to us in MCM, and Neumann has to retire some time. ;D [/quote] You can always hope :) [/quote] How old is Neumann, anyways? He's got to be in the mid to late 50s. [/quote] Don't know, but  if he's like Hooks, he might coach into his 70s.

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1301481" timestamp="1350346484"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301479#msg1301479 date=1350346282] I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :) [/quote] I'm fine with y'all having those fifteen years. If we erase those, we erase some of our own best seasons (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2010 come to mind). Besides, it'll take at least 15 more for Nederland to catch up to us in MCM, and Neumann has to retire some time. ;D [/quote] You can always hope :)

I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :)

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1301447" timestamp="1350341816"] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104664.msg1301445#msg1301445 date=1350341511] After reading a couple post...thats just sad...the Nederland fans just get to WATCH the big games being played.  :'( [/quote] We have to be fair here. In 2000, the year after our last state championship run, an impressive Nederland team suffered a heartbreaking 7-6 loss in the state semi-final to a Bay City team that won the championship that year with ease. That qualifies as a big game. But, it wasn't in front of a record-setting crowd. ;D [/quote] You know why Ned fans keep bringing this up?  Because they know it will get a rise out of you and the PNG people.    Why?  Because when the scoreboard doesn't end up going your way you can at least say " we have an attendance record".  The other question is what will happen when the record falls? ( and it will).  What will you cling to then?  BTW, Ned was in the semi-finals in 2001,  PNG was watching them in the playoffs for the next 3 years after 99.

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1301428" timestamp="1350339817"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301424#msg1301424 date=1350339602] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301417#msg1301417 date=1350338929] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301414#msg1301414 date=1350338761] Tell you what, next time you get to the playoffs in the 3rd or 4th round, take a poll of [u]everybody[/u] in the stadium and let me know if they are actually from PNG or from another town and just wanted to take in a playoff game. :) [/quote] ??? Really? That's your response? I have to admit, I kind of expected better. If I can't prove a point without polling, neither can you. You just struck out your own point. And in any case, you still haven't responded to the fact that, if your argument was true (and I really don't think it is; you'll find some fans from other schools, but a few thousand at most), you're just crediting PN-G for being able to attract fans from across district lines. [/quote] And you made mine.  Your implication that the majority of the fans are wearing purple implied that they are PNG fans, not fans from other teams.  Not to mention the fans from the opposing team.  Also, if its a state championship game, there are no other games to attend, so people will come to see the last game.  Like you said without a poll, you can't prove that they are PNG fans.  So why keep defending it ? [/quote] ... and you can't prove that they're not without a poll. At least I have empirical evidence; you have no evidence of any kind. Answer me this: have you ever attended a PN-G game wearing purple? Has any Nederland fan? I think most would say the color purple would burn their skin and show up in black and gold, if they show up at all. I know the only Nederland fans I know that have ever come to our playoff games weren't wearing purple. And likewise, I've attended Nederland, WO-S and Vidor games wearing purple. [/quote] I have gone to maybe 2 games, but I didn't wear my Ned colors.  There are probably people from other schools that can say the same.

Oh, and here is a more up to date attendance record list, since the PNG site only lists up to 2006: Attendance Game Site Year 49,953 Plano vs. Port Neches-Groves, Texas Stadium 1977* 46,339 Southlake Carroll vs. Euless Trinity, Texas Stadium 2006 45,790 Highland Park vs. Waco, Cotton Bowl 1945* 45,000 Houston Washington vs. Galveston, Rice Stadium 1968 45,000 Dallas Adams vs. Richardson, Cotton Bowl 1967 43,369 Aledo vs. Manvel, Cowboys Stadium 2011* 43,321 Pearland vs. Euless Trinity, Cowboys Stadium 2010* 42,896 Southlake Carroll vs. Fort Bend Hightower, Cowboys Stadium 2011* 41,368 Katy vs. Pearland, Rice Stadium 2010 39,102 Garland vs. Katy, Astrodome 1999* 39,102 Stephenville vs. Port Neches-Groves, Astrodome 1999* 38,570 Port Neches-Groves vs. Houston Kashmere, Astrodome 1977 38,374 Plano vs. Highland Park, Texas Stadium 1980 38,000 Odessa vs. San Antonio Jefferson, Memorial Stadium (Austin) 1946 37,747 Cibolo Steele vs. Denton Guyer, Cowboys Stadium 2010* 36,000 Fort Bend Willowridge vs. Houston Yates, Rice Stadium 1988 *state championship game source: [url=[Hidden Content]]

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1301417" timestamp="1350338929"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301414#msg1301414 date=1350338761] Tell you what, next time you get to the playoffs in the 3rd or 4th round, take a poll of [u]everybody[/u] in the stadium and let me know if they are actually from PNG or from another town and just wanted to take in a playoff game. :) [/quote] ??? Really? That's your response? I have to admit, I kind of expected better. If I can't prove a point without polling, neither can you. You just struck out your own point. And in any case, you still haven't responded to the fact that, if your argument was true (and I really don't think it is; you'll find some fans from other schools, but a few thousand at most), you're just crediting PN-G for being able to attract fans from across district lines. [/quote] And you made mine.  Your implication that the majority of the fans are wearing purple implied that they are PNG fans, not fans from other teams.  Not to mention the fans from the opposing team.  Also, if its a state championship game, there are no other games to attend, so people will come to see the last game.  Like you said without a poll, you can't prove that they are PNG fans.  So why keep defending it ?

Oh, and also,  I guess Stephenville and Plano don't have any fans that go to games either???

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1301404" timestamp="1350337842"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301385#msg1301385 date=1350336970] LOL.  You might need to get a needle for your head  and some of your PNG friends.  I guess the PNG people have to cling to something, since they will be sitting home this year.  Its funny how they have to keep bringing up a attendance record that happened over 30 years ago, and act like it was all because of PNG and not because other people in the area want to watch high school playoff games.  I see people from other schools all the time at Nederland playoff games , and I am sure that Ned fans attend other games as well. [/quote] Fact-checking seems to be pretty popular these days, so let's do a little here. First of all, the subject of this thread is PN-G fan attendance. This thread was not started by a PN-G fan. It was started by a Nederland fan. See quote below: [quote author=GoDogs27 link=topic=104664.msg1300019#msg1300019 date=1350179073] We all know the theory of PNG's fans being the most loyal and that they never leave early has been debunked after we saw the mass exodus in MCM last year when Nederland stuffed the 4th and 1 attempt. When will it happen this year?  ;) [/quote] Second, PN-G's attendance records - of which there are many - were not brought up by a PN-G fan. In fact, the subject of attendance records in particular was brought up in the second post of this thread by a different Nederland fan. See quote below: [quote author=NDOMAKONG link=topic=104664.msg1300024#msg1300024 date=1350179493] This didn't get debunked just last year.  pNG has a lot of people in the stands... a good portion are loyal, but they are as fair weather or more than everyone else.  In this thread they will point to the state attendance record, and try to shut you up. [/quote] Third, no PN-G fan here ever said that these records were set by PN-G fans alone. However, you, in raising this point, need to be aware that you're only hurting your own case; if these records totaling well over 30,000 fans indicate a strong Southeast Texas following in addition to the strong following PN-G has on its own, that says a heck of a lot about PN-G's ability to bring not only tens of thousands of its own fans, [i]but also tens of thousands of other schools' fans[/i] - more, even, then every other Southeast Texas school besides Nederland bring to their own games. Fourth, PN-G's last major attendance record was not set 30+ years ago. It was set just 13 years ago, during the memorable 1999 season. And fifth, if what you say is true and some significant portion of PN-G's substantial fan following during deep playoff years is comprised of Southeast Texas fans from other schools, why is it that in every case, the PN-G crowd is overwhelmingly purple? Generally speaking, when fans of various schools attend a game and sit with the fan base of a school different than their own, they do not wear that school's colors, but rather their own school's colors. Given this observation, the only way your argument could be true in any significant fashion is if the entire Dayton fanbase has a thing for attending PN-G playoff games, and even then the PN-G crowd would be overwhelmingly comprised of PN-G fans and alumni. So, you were saying? ;) [/quote] [quote author=NDOMAKONG link=topic=104664.msg1300024#msg1300024 date=1350179493] This didn't get debunked just last year.  pNG has a lot of people in the stands... a good portion are loyal, but they are as fair weather or more than everyone else.  In this thread they will point to the state attendance record, and try to shut you up. [/quote] Well, NDOMAKONG 's prediction came true.  The attendance record the PNG fans tout the most is the one in 1977. And yes, that is over 30 years ago.  Also, those attendance records were for the most part set at State championship games.  If PNG happens to be the last team standing from the area, then yes, you will get fans from all over the area, in addition to fans across the state attending.  Tell you what, next time you get to the playoffs in the 3rd or 4th round, take a poll of [u]everybody[/u] in the stadium and let me know if they are actually from PNG or from another town and just wanted to take in a playoff game. :)

When the PNG fans leave early!!!! Oh, but I forgot they have an attendance record 30 something years ago! ;)

LOL.  You might need to get a needle for your head  and some of your PNG friends.  I guess the PNG people have to cling to something, since they will be sitting home this year.  Its funny how they have to keep bringing up a attendance record that happened over 30 years ago, and act like it was all because of PNG and not because other people in the area want to watch high school playoff games.  I see people from other schools all the time at Nederland playoff games , and I am sure that Ned fans attend other games as well.

Yeah, and all of the were from PNG, LOL.

I have a cousin who is a cheerleader for Lumberton.  It stinks that they might not win a game during her senior year. Keep on fighting Raiders, except when we play ya!! :)

[quote name="NDNation" post="1301115" timestamp="1350319727"] [quote author=jake94 link=topic=104723.msg1301107#msg1301107 date=1350319375] Y'all do have an impressive football history and do have the upper hand overall. I will give you that. The pendulum has swung though since Neumann has been boss. I don't even think switching to leather helmets could help y'all this week though... [/quote] Neumann was coach in 2009? PN-G 23-7...and we had a new coach. [/quote] Neumann is 13-6 vs PNG, Including  11-5 vs Burnett and 2-1 vs Faircloth.

[quote name="tupac7" post="1299175" timestamp="1350111204"] nederland wins this by as much as they want...hate to say it, but faircloth has lost this team. I believe he is building for the future and keeping those freshman kids together is a good start. Nederland- 56 Png- 8 [/quote] I think PNG made this game alot more interesting after last night.  They showed that they wouldn't lay down when Central was winning and played them blow for blow.  The game won't be a blowout.

[quote name="GCMrbDAD" post="1299092" timestamp="1350105835"] I have never said anything about a kid and I'm dont think I'm bashing the coach I'm just simply telling the triuth. Did I get reported?  My bad. [/quote] Not that I am aware of.  The Admins and Mods do read the threads as much as possible.  If you two want to discuss this, do so privately by PM.