blacksheep

Again no one is denying the kids ability, but you have to give respect to earn it and from the way I've seen him treat some of his fellow teammates, I don't feel as if im ready to give him mine yet. 

Ya that's exactly what I said. 17 year old kids can't handle people talking a little noise on them. NO!!! I was criticizing dove for being hypocritical and I for one believe our boys will give lcm more fight than any of "you haters" believe they're capable.

Let's get this straight, I think the boy should play on jv because he has the talent and IMO he's only forming bad habits and gaining an unrealistic picture of high school basketball on the freshman team. Before when I said silly passes I was referring to passes that will only work against freshmen teams and that would never make it in the upper levels.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="922209" timestamp="1291063054"] [quote author=blacksheep link=topic=76794.msg922106#msg922106 date=1291058642] Seriously, nobody thinks HF stands a chance? [/quote]I honestly don't think the players know that they can win. Watch the body langauge on the court. ;) [/quote]you just said they don't!!!!

First of all, it doesn't help the players to believe in themselves whenever bluedove is on here telling them they don't stand a chance and that they don't deserve to be on the team. Second of all, maybe next time hfmom08 can use a little punctuation and enable the rest of us to understand what theyre trying to say without disecting the post.  ;D

[quote name="hfmom08" post="922159" timestamp="1291060968"] this is not from hf mom its from hf dad. if i'm correct the coach picked team captin not the players. respect is earned not given.to be polite in summer ball in which i set on the side line with said players all started the summer season,and all but one finished not sayings names just stating facts its not chemistry its just choices and that does not make it right. it works at hf because it is excepted and it is time for change. [/quote] well I'm afraid you would be wrong.  The players most definitely chose the captains and joey recieved eleven out of the twelve votes.  On that note, if it was the coach deciding, I have no doubt that he would still be captain because the coach knows that no one else is going to work harder or push the team like Joey.

HF has a lot of young talent this year. Last year they were plagued by last inning heart break losses, which in the end kept them out of the playoffs. Even with only two seniors they were a mere one game back. Two district losses in the bottom of the 7th will kill ya. I see the horns making a good run this year.

Seriously, nobody thinks HF stands a chance?

What does team chemistry have to do with winning games? Seriously? A team that doesn't like each other for sure can't play together, and what HF has this year for the first time in a long time, is a team that actually enjoys playing with one another. Has anyone stopped to think that the young talent doesn't mesh with the varsity and would only cause tension? No one is arguing that the "da freshman PG" is not talented enough to be on varsity. The real question is how would he fit in with the system? I've watched him play, and don't get me wrong, the kid is good. 95% of the time he will be the best athlete on the floor. However, I've also seen him get down on his teammates and all around just try to do too much forcing bad shots or making silly passes. His attitude is a problem for me. I don't like to see guys degrade their teammates because they aren't as good. Bluedove, I have nothing but respect for his determination and will to win, but I do have beef with the way he treats his teammates. If you want to teach him something, tell him to watch the way Joey Nguyen (the starting varsity PG) carries himself through practice and games, always encouraging others and never getting down on anyone but himself. If someone makes a mistake, Joey is the first one to pick them up. His talent isn't the reason he is the captain of this team, it's the fact that every player out there respects him and wants him on the court right next to them.

forgive me STUD...singular

but i guess we would win if we brought up the jv and freshman studs right?

Forgive me I was trying to be subtle.  The players that are on varsity ARE there because they work hard and they have the right chemistry and coach believes that this is the team that gives him the best chance to be successful.  The fact is that the reason SOME OTHER PLAYERS WHO AREN'T ON THE VARSITY LEVEL need to learn some respect and discipline change up their attitude.  MAYBE then the would mesh with the rest of the team and others would MAYBE want to play with them!!! IMO

Haven't seen LCM but I know the bear cave is a tough place to play at and they're usually a pretty good challenge. However, HF is considerably better than previous years.  Is it still a tall order to ask for a longhorn victory?

Look here people the fact is that nobody actually knows what goes on in the HF basketball program except for the coaches and the players. Although bluedove and mgj think they have all the answers they don't because they aren't there and they don't have a clue what goes on at practice. Anyobe can sit in the stands and talk about who the best players are and that they should all play together. Heck thats what the heat did and look at them. Maybe the kids on varsity are there because they work harder than the others or maybe they have good chemistry or maybe just maybe they have the right attitude and they respect the coaches and the rest of the team.