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[quote name="youthinkyouknow" post="1319243" timestamp="1351997490"] [move][font=trebuchet ms][size=24pt][color=maroon]Go Jags![/color][/size][/font][/move] [/quote] Too cool youthinkyouknow. I love chicks who love football....

Totally the officials fault however I think the Livingston coaches should carry some of the blame. Chevoski should have went to the sidelines for a while to cool off. Is it me or does it seem we can't get officials that are impartial or competent? I'm sorry, you are getting paid for this. I officiated soccer for 15 years and I can assure you, I would have been pulled from refereeing for a while if I couldn't do it right and I know they see what's going on. I could make a list of their obvious blunders to cover an entire page. Truthfully, the kids on the field shouldn't be blamed...it rest with the officials and coaches. I know the Livingston coaches saw what Collins did on Montana's TD. What would Jeff do if the shoe was on the other foot and Montana had beed doing that after a Collins TD? Guarantee you he would be benched. Disgusting. 

[quote name="GoDogs27" post="1318543" timestamp="1351958197"] [b] Points mean nothing tonight. Ozen is in if there's a 3-way tie. I posted this in another thread: [/b] [quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=105434.msg1318405#msg1318405 date=1351948940] Week 9 Results (minus the LCM vs Central game tonight) are posted.... [Hidden Content] Just curious... With the Ozen victory last night, Ozen has a pretty much automatic victory over Lumberton next week. With a Central victory tonight that could create a three way 3 and 4 record tie for 4th place. Can someone explain the tie breaker scenario, looks like Ozen might still get in with a Central victory. [/quote] IF Central wins tonight and Ozen/Vidor take care of business next week you will have Central, Ozen, and LCM tied for 4th place. It will go to points. Here is the point breakdown Ozen : +14 LCM :  +6  (pending tonight's game) Central : -20 (pending tonight's game) Note: **Points from now on mean nothing** Central is out if they lose next week to Nederland (if Ozen beats Lumberton), regardless of tonight's score because they can't catch Ozen on points. They would be, at most +1 on the points. Ozen's +14 wouldn't change. It's a stretch but Central could still get in even if they lose to Nederland if Ozen loses next week to Lumberton and LC-M loses both games. If LCM loses this week and next week (which is required for this scenario) then Ozen is in if they beat Lumberton. So in theory, tonights game means squat for a points tiebreaker. If LCM drops its last two games, Ozen is in with a win. If LCM wins tonight, LCM has clinched since they would hold the heads up tiebreaker against Central. Ok so summary. Points mean nothing tonight because if LCM wins, Ozen and Central are out for sure with 4 losses.. If Central wins, points still mean nothing because they will need to beat Nederland to get in as well. If they do that, they are in regardless of what the outcome of Vidor/LC-M is. Even if LC-M upsets Vidor, there is no points tie-breaker because it's two teams with 4-3 records and Central would win the heads up against LC-M. So, in essence, Central and LC-M control their own destiny. For Ozen to be in : W against Lumberton, a Central loss to Ned, and two LC-M losses. For Central to be in: W against LCM AND Ned ---- OR ---- W against LC-M, Ozen loss, LC-M loss For LC-M to be in: W against Central OR Vidor Remember, points are established so they mean nothing from here on.. LOL Any questions?? [/quote] +1 GoDogs. Good car math....

[quote name="Cougar4Life" post="1318829" timestamp="1351979865"] And if you watch the tailgate party he slung quirante down about 5 yards already into the endzone. Don't know why you would be proud of yourself for getting scored on and outran by the QB.? Put that on the highlight film for mack [/quote] The referee actually had flagged him for the tackle on Montana. Then Collins followed Montana down the sidelines with his antics. The referee picked up the flag and waved it off. That's when the officials lost control of the game...1st quarter...not hitting Collins for the flagrant late hit and not hitting him again for taunting.

OK guys, I voted 3 times for y'all...how about a free ticket? Nah, I'll go see my Pirates.

[quote name="Tim Riggins" post="1318188" timestamp="1351918692"] [quote author=#1stangfan link=topic=105603.msg1318175#msg1318175 date=1351918195] [quote author=VidorGrad-88 link=topic=105603.msg1318136#msg1318136 date=1351916512] I agree with you Stangfan, Vidor does need some passing plays to add to the very lethal running game. I have said that since back in the 80's. [/quote] And that is all I am saying....Would like for Vidor to have that extra weapon!!! [/quote] May see more passing next year as our running QB, MQ, will graduate.  Still, the Slot-T, by it's very nature, is a run-heavy offense. Livingston's version is more varied with the shotgun, zone read, and even some spread with quite a bit more passing.  I think all the "extras" that the Lions run  may be geared to Collins' abilities however and that makes their version more of a hybrid Slot-T, rather than Vidor's "pure" slot T. [/quote] Why? I'm so tired of hearing about us not passing...we average approx. 35 point per game and beat the other team down. Most 4A schools have players that go both ways and they run out of gas (i.e. Collins). It's a scheme, a rhythym. We run the ball, run the clock, wear the other team down. We used to throw the ball all the time, what did it get us? This offense and this scheme has put us into the playoffs three of the last four years and maximizes the talent we have while negating the other teams. It cuts down the opportunities they have the ball. If you want the spread, go watch png.

[quote name="jmoore" post="1318042" timestamp="1351913692"] [quote author=#1stangfan link=topic=105603.msg1318032#msg1318032 date=1351913521] I wish Vidor all the best!!!  However will they ever ditch the short sighted goal of winning games and district games for the bigger prize?  I might be wrong but in my opinion a 4A team will not win state relying on the run.  Someone will either shut them down or put them too far behind to catch up.  There are too many high powered offenses out there. [/quote] It has been a couple of years but if I am not mistaken (and I am know I am not) Texas City won a state championship with running the ball the entire game in the Championship. Therefore a 4A CAN AND HAS won STATE RELYING ON THE RUN....just saying do your research....believe Texas City's motto that year was something along the lines of "Better stop the run, because we pass for fun" [/quote] Lamarque won two state championships as well as Liberty Hill with the slot-t. It is a good offense and fits our kids and our scheme. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!! I would't change anything...just keep winning baby!

I thought you guys don't run the score up? Did a lot of kneeling the ball did ya'?

That was a disgusting display by a football team...and that team is a reflection of their coach. The officials were pathetic and allowed it to happen. Were Livingston's head coach half a man, he would have benched Collins and cooled him off. I'm really, really, really getting tired of these officials , who are getting paid, yet can't control the game, call it fair, know how many yards you get for offsides (it ain't 6) or what down it is. Hint: look at the scoreboard or this website. They're either blind or biased and It's sickening...

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1315780" timestamp="1351735591"] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=105320.msg1315778#msg1315778 date=1351735426] [quote author=liltex link=topic=105320.msg1314639#msg1314639 date=1351612429] Fits my schedule to attend=thurs BH @ SC 7pm & Liv @ Vidor Fri(never been to the boneyard) 8) [/quote] liltex, come sit with us on the Pirate side. [/quote]Trocket has already kidnapped him for Friday. I might join, then again might not. im still debating. I might have a taste for Jennys on Friday. *hint hint* [/quote] 10-4. I'll pay!

[quote name="liltex" post="1314639" timestamp="1351612429"] Fits my schedule to attend=thurs BH @ SC 7pm & Liv @ Vidor Fri(never been to the boneyard) 8) [/quote] liltex, come sit with us on the Pirate side.

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[quote name="BigRed42" post="1315333" timestamp="1351690769"] If I was a Vidor fan I'd be praying to the football gods for a Central win this weekend. That'd make their first round match-up much easier IMO [/quote] The Mighty Pirates will play whomever wherever in the playoffs. Justin Moore is back running strong and the team is healthy. I would just as soon play a tough team in the first round. This is football!!!

Y'all keep direspecting the Pirates. Everyone else did last year all the way to the third round. BTW, I want Dayton however, SC hasn't seen our offense. It is not BH's offense but feel free to make that mistake if you want.

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1315129" timestamp="1351649581"] [quote author=octfeb link=topic=105453.msg1315027#msg1315027 date=1351635552] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=105453.msg1315021#msg1315021 date=1351634457] [quote author=mikehoncho link=topic=105453.msg1314859#msg1314859 date=1351624472] [quote author=dayton link=topic=105453.msg1314827#msg1314827 date=1351622675] [quote author=TradinUp BH link=topic=105453.msg1314784#msg1314784 date=1351620411] D1 will be Foster vs. Dawson, Dawson wins D2 will be Brenham vs. FB Marshall, Brenham wins This could change depending on some bubble teams. I see Summer Creek beating Vidor, and Georgetown, but losing to Foster in 3rd round. I see Dayton losing to Nederland first round. I see Crosby beating LCM, and getting beat by [b]Manor[/b] 2nd round. I see BH beating Livingston, and getting beat by Brenham 2nd round. That's my prediction today, could change. ;D [/quote] manor? really? you got some inside scoop on those guys? [/quote] Dayton won't lose to 204a, Vidor or Nederland...or Summer Creek for that matter we've gone deeper in the playoffs with less talent than we have now I'm glad you guys underestimate us each year, it makes it that much sweeter when we're the only team from SETX left in December Summer Creek looks good, agreed...they haven't been tested either...I look forward to the BH/SC game, BH is the best team they've seen this year Ned/Vidor both look tough...I like them, as well we'll see how it plays out, any given Friday...right?  that's why the kids play and coaches coach...and we act like we have a clue  8) [/quote] Lol you Dayton folks are funny. You guys say we haven't been tested until we play Crosby, we beat them, now we haven't been tested again until we play BH.....The only way you guys agree we are tested is win we lose  ;D.....smh [/quote]  So your saying that yall HAVE been tested other than Crosby? Who did yall play before district started? [/quote] I've heard several people claim 19-4A was the best district, which means they would have had to have been tested by now. [/quote] 19-4A claimed they were the best district last year when they went 1 - 3 vs. 20-4A. Ned is right there in the mix for the state rankings and please, please sleep on my Pirates. What I will say is if we can get a D1 double header somewhere, that will be a good ticket of football for the day!!!

[Havingquote author=GCMPats link=topic=105446.msg1315179#msg1315179 date=1351653795] [quote name="mytwocents" post="1315165" timestamp="1351652529"] Smh at some people on here. Y'all act like getting score run up a kid is gonna land them in depression or something. Jeez it's just football y'all. They'll be okay. I once lost a game by 60 points. Did I go home and cry? No I played harder the next practice. Football is becoming too sissy-fied now a days.  ::) [/quote] It's obvious you miss the intent of sportsmanship. You can beat me as bad as you can. You do not define me If I allowed that to happen, I have empowered you beyond the playing field. That is the same concept I pass along to my children. Luckily, I have never been on the losing side of a beat-down as an athlete. I have had to be a spectator to some. GCM was a first year school that opted to play a varsity schedule. It happens. No sissies here. Tides turn. Be prepared for the shoe on the other foot to one day kick you in the arse. [/quote] I'm an old Pirate GCM and let me tell you, we know full well what it's like for the shoe to be on the other foot. Jeff Mathews is one of the finest individuals you'll meet and I promise he would not intentionally do that. I'm still trying to figure out how this thread became an indictment of Vidor but I believe I found the source. There are those on this website who hate to see us win no matter what and could use a little humility themselves. Having been on the other end, when the wheels come off a good little league team could beat you. You take your lumps and learn from it.

[quote name="bigdog" post="1314646" timestamp="1351612766"] [quote author=PirateGirl4ever link=topic=105446.msg1314638#msg1314638 date=1351612368] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=105446.msg1314623#msg1314623 date=1351611270] [quote author=PirateGirl4ever link=topic=105446.msg1314600#msg1314600 date=1351609803] [quote author=Farmer Fran link=topic=105446.msg1314576#msg1314576 date=1351608801] If a team is throwing the ball with a big lead that is running up the score, but if a team is running the ball and still scoring, then the other team needs to learn how to tackle ;) [/quote] I agree with this, I know some people in the surrounding area were upset about the Vidor/Lumb score because it was so high.  However, Vidor wasn't out to keep the score running up out of spite or anything else.  When you put 2nd and 3rd string in and they run the ball and continue to score because the opposing team just can't tackle what are you supposed to do??  Kneel at the 1 yard line and give the ball to the opposing team? [/quote] Ned had a chance to score again with the backups against Ozen at the end of the game,  we kneeled on the 3 yard line to end the game. [/quote] To me that's more of a slap in the face. It's almost as if you're saying, we know we're better and we could score if we wanted to, but we're gonna let you make it this game. [/quote] No, were saying the game is over and has been since the third quarter and we are not going to run up the score.  Running up 66 points on a team is just asking for karma. [/quote] Here we go again with St. Littledog pontificating about his pius puppies NEVER doing anything wrong and incorrectly quoting statistics. I can remember us playing your homecoming and y'all running the score up with the starters or do you want me to put up the those statistics? Jeff emptied the bench against Lumberton and it was all he could do. He had the same mercy rule against png, believe it or not. I always wanted the other team to play hard so my team could learn; kneeling the ball is the worse thing to do. Take that holier than thou crud somewhere else. This is football, not cheer competition!!!

No love for my Pirates again even if we can hang with any of these guys....

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1314113" timestamp="1351551602"] [quote author=jimbob82 link=topic=105304.msg1314109#msg1314109 date=1351551020] Am I missing something,  why has Livingston clinched a playoff spot and Vidor has not.  Can someone  please explain.  Thanks [/quote] because we still have to play liv and lc-m. if we lose both and end up 4-3 and central should miraculously beat lc-m and nederland and lc-m finishes 4-3, then we would have a three way tie. ie: central beat lcm, lcm beat vidor,vidor beat central. [/quote] Let's just take care of business in the Boneyard and be doen with it.

[quote name="ATX31" post="1313647" timestamp="1351520848"] Nederland and Vidor double header at Lamar home side on Saturday A lot of Black and Gold with some purple mixed in there 8) [/quote] I'm leaning towards a DH @ Da Butch.

35 - 20 Pirates at the Boneyard. Livingston hasn't proved they can play defense yet.

[quote name="RaiderGirl92" post="1313392" timestamp="1351477394"] I hope my boys can some crazy way pull an upset Friday!!! GOOOO RAIDERSSSSS [/quote] RaiderGirl92 you have to come to Hamburger Depot one Tuesday and let everyone meet you!!!

Da Bears at Da Butch. The OC goes 4 - 0 there this year regular season then we pull a 19-4A double header in the playoffs.

[quote name="Broncofan65" post="1312942" timestamp="1351435558"] The Broncos have been 20-4as Daddy for the last five years I believe with only one loss to Lumberton. I do not see that changing this year. I remember a 62 o 0 score in Nederland a few years back. I do believe Nederland thought they were going to win that game also.  ;D [/quote] They must have been the crack-headed daddy last year. We punked y'all to the tune of 3 - 1 in victories. The only team from 19-4A that survived the first round was dayton.

[quote name="vhs" post="1312856" timestamp="1351397903"] Vidor has some very big shoes to fill when we lose this Sr. class.  Obviously starting with Quirante and most of our defense.  The Freshman group sounds like they are pretty solid, so hopefully we will continue to be relevant in the playoff picture. [/quote] vhs, I do agree with you about big shoes to fill however, we'll be fine. You seen some of the Freshman games? Also, the Junior High has a group that is every bit as talented as the 2009 bunch, if not more. And, can you honestly tell me you saw this team coming in 2010? I wasn't willing to go out on a limb and say they would have the sort of year like 2011. Vidor football and Vidor sports in general have turned the corner...we have a coaching staff and program on a par with anybody's and are returning some good kids with experience. I'm not concerned about the future of Pirate football one iota. Whether we become "another Lumberton" I am willing to wager on with anyone in the area. Hamburger Depot on Tuesday nights, I'm easy to find.