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I'm loving this Manvel - PAM jawing. Good stuff!

No shouting. 

Lets go Pirates,forget (remember) the titans

BH ran the Wing - T similar to what we used to run and what Angleton runs. You can run multiple pass formations from that set. We run a true Slot - T with a tight formation line which is a little different. Purists such as Dubois rarely pass from this set. BH stopped us because we had the wrong personnel in the wrong places on both sides of the ball; the changes were made the week before that game. We still managed 350 yds of offense and was in their red zone 3 times in the first half but couldn't punch it in. Maverick came in to play QB in the second half and we scored. Saturday after the game, Jeff and his staff made wholesale changes to the team and the rest is history. I truly believe the outcome of a Vidor / BH game would be a little different if we played today.

Manuel is winning this region.. sorry PAM

No shouting. 

A true prophet by any standard. Football guru. Wish he were back.

A true prophet by any standard. Football guru. Wish he were back.

With due respect, not getting out of bounds when you are down 5 with 8 seconds left is a bonehead mistake.  Heading to the right when the play is going left is a bonehead mistake.  This, I'm sorry, cannot be dismissed as merely "bonehead." The Pingleton kid, looked down, measured, left his feet and came down with all of this weight on the linebacker's ankle.  That my friend, is an intentional act.  Are some of the sanctions discussed like pulling scholarships too extreme (although in an age where college athletes are making news as often for character issues as they are for their 40 times, if I am a program recruiting this guy, I might want to dig further)? Definitely.  At the same time, when a local school is being is being castigated and called a bunch of "thugs" for pregame rituals that some find intimidating, this was truly a "thug" move that deserves some sanction and given the fact that it did appear to cause some injury, a pretty severe one.
I guess that an aspect that I find particularly galling is that nearly 10 months ago, this very kid had to sit out what was at that time the most important game of his young life because of an injury that he sustained on the field.  You'd think he would have learned something from that...then, again, he might have. 

Central will handle Livingston, IMO.

You're not talking apples and apples my friend. GCM is a poor example of what I'm talking about and I'm willing to bet they get their act together in the future and start winning some games. Look at the average of teams...you probably have 50 seniors on your varsity alone. Big 5A. Livingston and Lumberton both probably had only 30 players on the sideline period. I think we suit up 40 on varsity. Long run small schools can't compete with that. Barbers Hill has enough money and is growing fast enough to go and buy the top coach in Texas. Can't compete with that. I know all you PA folks felt that when you were in 6A playing the GPNS of the world and going 3 - 7. Glad you're in the district but you're proving my point.

Day in and day out, Silsbee, WOS and all of these schools have no chance playing bigger classification schools on a regular basis. You just don't have enough kids to cover the positions without some kids going both ways...they will wear you out. Good example: WOS vs. Richmond Foster. Over the course of a season, the injuries, etc. rack up and you lose. Fair is fair. 

I'm for it because of the disparity among some schools. No matter how you slice it, a school of Lumberton, Livingston or Ozen's size has little to no chance of competing against a 2000+ student school. Period. Second, if you made the cut at the 1050 - to 1100 range you bring a lot of similar sized schools into to play such as Huffman Hargrave and LCM. You wouldn't have a small 5A school being arbitrarily stuck into Div1 and having to play an on the bubble 6A school in the playoffs with no chance of winning. 1050 - 1600 pretty well puts all of our schools stuck in population decline in 5A Div 2, 1601 to 2100 Div1 with the growing powerhouses on the east side of Houston (like BH, NC, etc.). We wind up with districts consisting of 6 - 8 team combinations. Beaumont schools could and should realign their school zones to bring all three into the 5A but that ain't happening. Lastly, I know a lot of you hate the 4 team playoff designation but that will never change. It's about money and fits nicely into the UIL's narrative of playing football until Xmas. Besides, Texas is growing so fast they need to do this to accommodate the expansion. A good example is College Station creating two 5A schools out of the one 6A school (A&M Consolidated) they had. Better opportunities for the kids to compete. One caveat...if you want the district championship to mean something other than being a paper title, make the first round of the playoffs at home for that champion. Then you would have something.

Here's how I see it: Ned wins out and makes MCM relevant because KJAC, KFDM, FOX, SETXSports, KLVI, 92.5, ESPN, the Port Arthur News and Gabe Pruitt will all be happy and can make it the game of the century. Meanwhile, PAM and Vidor are playing for the district championship the last game of the regular season somewhere in northwestern Orange County. 

It's a ways away but all fans of the 21-5A and 22-5A D2 playoff teams should be cheering for Hutto to beat Leander Rouse this weekend. If that happens Cedar Park will most likely go D1 with Manvel and Temple leaving the D2 bracket wide open in region 3.
With College Station stud qb Ty Brock breaking his leg and Cedar Park going D1, not only do the bi-district winners have a chance to win a couple of games but they also have a chance to play for the region if things pan out.

If Central loses this weekend Nederland and Livingston have the best shot at getting in. No matter what if Livingston beats Central and Ozen they're in. If Ned and Central both finish 4-4 in district play which is very likely Nederland would get in. Central isn't mathematically eliminated but realistically it's between Livingston and Nederland for the last spot.

Actually, that was another matter before the Policy Committee today. Since (I believe 2014) the UIL has been using an "experiment" in 6A where the Division 1 #1 hosts at their home stadium the bi-district game against the Division 1 #2 from the other district.  
They saw the need to tweak that because that was resulting in teams finishing third in their district hosting games against teams that finished second.  So the tweak, will be that the ability to host will be determined by district finish rather than whether or not they are the #1 or #2 seed in their particular division.
I can see everyone starting with that with the 2018 realignment.

I'm for it because of the disparity among some schools. No matter how you slice it, a school of Lumberton, Livingston or Ozen's size has little to no chance of competing against a 2000+ student school. Period. Second, if you made the cut at the 1050 - to 1100 range you bring a lot of similar sized schools into to play such as Huffman Hargrave and LCM. You wouldn't have a small 5A school being arbitrarily stuck into Div1 and having to play an on the bubble 6A school in the playoffs with no chance of winning. 1050 - 1600 pretty well puts all of our schools stuck in population decline in 5A Div 2, 1601 to 2100 Div1 with the growing powerhouses on the east side of Houston (like BH, NC, etc.). We wind up with districts consisting of 6 - 8 team combinations. Beaumont schools could and should realign their school zones to bring all three into the 5A but that ain't happening. Lastly, I know a lot of you hate the 4 team playoff designation but that will never change. It's about money and fits nicely into the UIL's narrative of playing football until Xmas. Besides, Texas is growing so fast they need to do this to accommodate the expansion. A good example is College Station creating two 5A schools out of the one 6A school (A&M Consolidated) they had. Better opportunities for the kids to compete. One caveat...if you want the district championship to mean something other than being a paper title, make the first round of the playoffs at home for that champion. Then you would have something.

yeah manvel only gave up 13 pts to North Shore who looks to be averaging 35+ in 6A....that's a bit scary

Yep, but that last victory was the sweetest and you get to hear about it for an entire year 

Herm Edwards made a good point in the post game comments. This team is young and really doesn't know Romo as the QB; he really hasn't been the full time starter since 2014. Dakota is consistent and this has the entire team playing at a high level because he is the only starter for more than two games in a row any of them really know. The rest of the components were there...they just needed leadership. Dakota does that.

Day in and day out, Silsbee, WOS and all of these schools have no chance playing bigger classification schools on a regular basis. You just don't have enough kids to cover the positions without some kids going both ways...they will wear you out. Good example: WOS vs. Richmond Foster. Over the course of a season, the injuries, etc. rack up and you lose. Fair is fair. 

I'm for it because of the disparity among some schools. No matter how you slice it, a school of Lumberton, Livingston or Ozen's size has little to no chance of competing against a 2000+ student school. Period. Second, if you made the cut at the 1050 - to 1100 range you bring a lot of similar sized schools into to play such as Huffman Hargrave and LCM. You wouldn't have a small 5A school being arbitrarily stuck into Div1 and having to play an on the bubble 6A school in the playoffs with no chance of winning. 1050 - 1600 pretty well puts all of our schools stuck in population decline in 5A Div 2, 1601 to 2100 Div1 with the growing powerhouses on the east side of Houston (like BH, NC, etc.). We wind up with districts consisting of 6 - 8 team combinations. Beaumont schools could and should realign their school zones to bring all three into the 5A but that ain't happening. Lastly, I know a lot of you hate the 4 team playoff designation but that will never change. It's about money and fits nicely into the UIL's narrative of playing football until Xmas. Besides, Texas is growing so fast they need to do this to accommodate the expansion. A good example is College Station creating two 5A schools out of the one 6A school (A&M Consolidated) they had. Better opportunities for the kids to compete. One caveat...if you want the district championship to mean something other than being a paper title, make the first round of the playoffs at home for that champion. Then you would have something.

You're not talking apples and apples my friend. GCM is a poor example of what I'm talking about and I'm willing to bet they get their act together in the future and start winning some games. Look at the average of teams...you probably have 50 seniors on your varsity alone. Big 5A. Livingston and Lumberton both probably had only 30 players on the sideline period. I think we suit up 40 on varsity. Long run small schools can't compete with that. Barbers Hill has enough money and is growing fast enough to go and buy the top coach in Texas. Can't compete with that. I know all you PA folks felt that when you were in 6A playing the GPNS of the world and going 3 - 7. Glad you're in the district but you're proving my point.

Not sure I consider it participation trophies and ribbons, just fairness and opportunity to compete for all the kids. If I go solely on that thought process, why not combine all the 1A through 4A classifications into just one division and not two? Why have 1A through 6A divisions, why not just 4A like it used to be? Texas has more than doubled in size and number of kids and I fully believe it is the opportunity for them to compete, not whether we make a super duper team out of Orange County and whip everyone's arse (we already have that in WOS). I'm glad my grandchildren are at a 3A school and will get the opportunity to participate rather than a 6A school and have no chance. They don't need a trophy,just the opportunity to earn one. Just my thoughts.