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[quote name="SFA85" post="1054379" timestamp="1315700766"] [quote author=indianforever link=topic=88050.msg1054373#msg1054373 date=1315700622] [quote author=mypooh link=topic=88050.msg1054369#msg1054369 date=1315700464] The only problem we will never see a Katy team as long as GP Northshore in 21-5A. That's why there is a big school playoffs and a little school. Do you think that PNG can play with Lake Travis / Aledo ? [/quote] never said i did and i never said png was going very far but the way yall make it sound memorial is already state champs and by the way do your research it is possible for yall to meet up with katy [/quote] I don't know who this "y'all" you refer to.  I am probably PAM's biggest critic from a coaching and schematic standpoint.  Toned down my criticism this year because I have friends with kids playing [/quote] Very honorable, I applaud this post.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1053895" timestamp="1315649988"] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=87848.msg1053752#msg1053752 date=1315628837] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=87848.msg1053717#msg1053717 date=1315627879] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=87848.msg1053689#msg1053689 date=1315626886] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=87848.msg1052897#msg1052897 date=1315603075] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=87848.msg1051776#msg1051776 date=1315464991] Saying that people aren't as in good of shape is preposterous, those work out programs you did in high school are done in middle school, the ones they do in highschool (at least good schools) are several steps above any strength and conditioning programs from 20 years ago, we simply know more about athletes and their bodies. Watch the spread attack when its ran in fast pace, it will wear out a defense in 5 plays everyone running to a line, that takes tremendous stamina. I think this is a "i miss the old days" moment and is an illusion. Not likeing the offense because you feel the passing ability in highschool is not good enough to run it correctly or you don't like side schemes in the running game, or whatever is something different. This is just a whining session that is "i wish it was 20-30 years ago, nothing less. [/quote] I agree Coug, you want life in the 80's, find a time machine... [/quote] What do you mean Gas??? It was the 70's. LOL!!!!!! Also by us having jobs during the summer it taught us the value of a dollar and responsibility along with hard work. I would venture to say that if more kids would have a job at a young age. This world would be in better shape instead of being spoiled and lazy. You don't see many kids from the 70's or 80's still mooching off their parents or their parents raising their kids. I would say yes we need a time machine to bring back morals and respectablity to this country. [/quote] ::) Yes lets all go back to the 60s and 70s when we had "morals". When we had a president killed, draft dodgers galore, "peace" activist who blew up things, hippies running wild, watergate, a gas shortage, a president who couldn't save some hostages in iran, and smasmouth football. ahh the good old days. [/quote] ::) Well first off I graduated in 1980 and today is any better? 14 million out of work, Half the population does not pay taxes, More people on welfare than ever, Young people don't get married so the government can pay for the baby to be born plus food stamps, diapers, formula, cheese, should I go on. Atleast some of us were reponsible for our own actions.  Yes, they was the good ole days when kids played outside, neighborhood football, basketball and baseball games. We was not in the AC playing X-Box eating twinkie's or ding dongs while drinking a coke or should I say entergy drink. [/quote] Im not saying one is better than the other, I'm saying every generation has its problems. When you were growing up the older generation talked about how lazy you were and how you had no morals or direction too. Not everybody today is lazy and irresponsible, but if you have a problem with this generation maybe you should blame your generation for not raising them the right way. BTW LT spread offence 4 consecutive state championships(who else has done that recently?), slc 3 straight state championships, Oregon spread offence and almost lead the country in rushing, Nevada runs the pistol(similar to the spread) and leads the country in rushing almost every year. You keep saying you have to be balenced, but you can be alot more balenced in the spread than in the wing t or slot t. Spread isn't a gimick the only reason you don't see it that often in the nfl is because the hash marks are not as wide as they are in college or high school. [/quote] I agree with the first statement, did not mean to categorize all young people of today. I think coaches should run an offense that best fits their personel on the field. I will say this, I am not a big fan of zone blocking. It is kind of like a zone defense in basketball it tends to make you lazy.

[quote name="VPirate" post="1053842" timestamp="1315635389"] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=87848.msg1053831#msg1053831 date=1315634172] I really think it depends on the kids you have. Liberty Hill won state in 2006 / 07 using the Slot T. Spread offenses can be dealt with if you have some speed on defence.....I love the Slot T because noone knows where your big bruising fullback is going until he pops up under you facemask. [/quote] I love the slot-t because when it is executed correctly it gives defenses fits. Vidor runs it pretty good but not perfectly, if you ever get a chance to watch a team that runs it to perfection it is magic. [/quote] Bridge City ran it to perfection under Les Johnson.

[quote name="Rizon" post="1051720" timestamp="1315449738"] I'm drawing a blank...who is BS? [/quote] Me too man. I have no clue. LOL!!!!!

Orangefield looked like they would much rather be at the football game. It was hard to watch.

[quote name="robanadana" post="1053831" timestamp="1315634172"] I really think it depends on the kids you have. Liberty Hill won state in 2006 / 07 using the Slot T. Spread offenses can be dealt with if you have some speed on defence.....I love the Slot T because noone knows where your big bruising fullback is going until he pops up under you facemask. [/quote] I do agree because you never know who has the ball but it is boring. You have to mix a little passing in there. Balance is the key.  The slot T does make the game go by fast though. LOL!!!!!!

[quote name="Gasilla" post="1052897" timestamp="1315603075"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=87848.msg1051776#msg1051776 date=1315464991] Saying that people aren't as in good of shape is preposterous, those work out programs you did in high school are done in middle school, the ones they do in highschool (at least good schools) are several steps above any strength and conditioning programs from 20 years ago, we simply know more about athletes and their bodies. Watch the spread attack when its ran in fast pace, it will wear out a defense in 5 plays everyone running to a line, that takes tremendous stamina. I think this is a "i miss the old days" moment and is an illusion. Not likeing the offense because you feel the passing ability in highschool is not good enough to run it correctly or you don't like side schemes in the running game, or whatever is something different. This is just a whining session that is "i wish it was 20-30 years ago, nothing less. [/quote] I agree Coug, you want life in the 80's, find a time machine... [/quote]

[quote name="J.T. Williams" post="1053809" timestamp="1315631746"] The spread offense is a joke to me. I am probably in the minority in this way of thinking. I believe you should be balance on offense. You should be able to run the ball and be able to get the ball downfield in the pass game. However, the game is won in the trenches. When my offensive tackle is in a two point stance for the majority of the game and my offensive line spends majority of the time on it's heel pass blocking that's when I have problem. It's 3rd and 2 and you have four wide receivers on the field and you pass the ball. That is a problem. When you have a lead and you are trying to run the clock and you are still passing the rock because you cannot run it. That is a problem. Football is meant to be a physical that is why you have pads and a helmet on. The spread is a gimmick like the run and shoot. When it meets a good defense it will always fail. Katy beat the heck out of North Shore's spread offense which includes speed and plenty of talent. Another example is how LSU broke out their belt and beat Oregon back to the West Coast. [/quote] You are correct JT. My youngest brother played for Lamargue in 1986. He was QB and they ran the run and shoot. Hugh Massey was their coach. Lamarque was 5A back then. To make a long story short, Lamarque played Plano in the state championship game. The run and shoot got shot, Plano motored up and down the field like a well oiled machine with a mixture of run and pass but mostly run.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1053717" timestamp="1315627879"] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=87848.msg1053689#msg1053689 date=1315626886] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=87848.msg1052897#msg1052897 date=1315603075] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=87848.msg1051776#msg1051776 date=1315464991] Saying that people aren't as in good of shape is preposterous, those work out programs you did in high school are done in middle school, the ones they do in highschool (at least good schools) are several steps above any strength and conditioning programs from 20 years ago, we simply know more about athletes and their bodies. Watch the spread attack when its ran in fast pace, it will wear out a defense in 5 plays everyone running to a line, that takes tremendous stamina. I think this is a "i miss the old days" moment and is an illusion. Not likeing the offense because you feel the passing ability in highschool is not good enough to run it correctly or you don't like side schemes in the running game, or whatever is something different. This is just a whining session that is "i wish it was 20-30 years ago, nothing less. [/quote] I agree Coug, you want life in the 80's, find a time machine... [/quote] What do you mean Gas??? It was the 70's. LOL!!!!!! Also by us having jobs during the summer it taught us the value of a dollar and responsibility along with hard work. I would venture to say that if more kids would have a job at a young age. This world would be in better shape instead of being spoiled and lazy. You don't see many kids from the 70's or 80's still mooching off their parents or their parents raising their kids. I would say yes we need a time machine to bring back morals and respectablity to this country. [/quote] ::) Yes lets all go back to the 60s and 70s when we had "morals". When we had a president killed, draft dodgers galore, "peace" activist who blew up things, hippies running wild, watergate, a gas shortage, a president who couldn't save some hostages in iran, and smasmouth football. ahh the good old days. [/quote] Wait there is more like Corporate America going overseas with all the jobs or Companies getting bought by another company and the CEO leaving gets 100 million for leaving but 20,000 people lose their jobs in the process or CEO's getting a bonus that's way more than their salary. Not to mention a CEO who's company was a fortune 100 but goes bankrupt and thousands of hard working Americans lose their job's and struggle to make it while he and his family are living the good life. Wow, yes times are better now day's. I am sure it happened back in my day also but not at this magnitude. Back on topic, watch the NFL and you will see that kids don't wrap up anymore. It is a joke, they try to hit someone but they don't tackle. FUNDAMENTALS enough said.

[quote name="bruno994" post="1053778" timestamp="1315629659"] Anybody on here from Woodville, give us a hint at what is going wrong up there.  This can't be the same team I saw in Woodville at the end of last year.  They were explosive and could score on one play from anywhere on the field.  Give us some insight.  Good win for the Bobcats though. [/quote] I was at the game and woodville had some good looking kids. They just did not play with much emotion. They would drive the ball then the Orangefield "D"  would shut them down. They would have first and 2 then all of a sudden it was 3rd and long. They just never got anything going. I can't explain it.  I will say this, the Orangefield kids did not dominate but they stayed the course, played hard and that is why they won.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1053717" timestamp="1315627879"] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=87848.msg1053689#msg1053689 date=1315626886] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=87848.msg1052897#msg1052897 date=1315603075] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=87848.msg1051776#msg1051776 date=1315464991] Saying that people aren't as in good of shape is preposterous, those work out programs you did in high school are done in middle school, the ones they do in highschool (at least good schools) are several steps above any strength and conditioning programs from 20 years ago, we simply know more about athletes and their bodies. Watch the spread attack when its ran in fast pace, it will wear out a defense in 5 plays everyone running to a line, that takes tremendous stamina. I think this is a "i miss the old days" moment and is an illusion. Not likeing the offense because you feel the passing ability in highschool is not good enough to run it correctly or you don't like side schemes in the running game, or whatever is something different. This is just a whining session that is "i wish it was 20-30 years ago, nothing less. [/quote] I agree Coug, you want life in the 80's, find a time machine... [/quote] What do you mean Gas??? It was the 70's. LOL!!!!!! Also by us having jobs during the summer it taught us the value of a dollar and responsibility along with hard work. I would venture to say that if more kids would have a job at a young age. This world would be in better shape instead of being spoiled and lazy. You don't see many kids from the 70's or 80's still mooching off their parents or their parents raising their kids. I would say yes we need a time machine to bring back morals and respectablity to this country. [/quote] ::) Yes lets all go back to the 60s and 70s when we had "morals". When we had a president killed, draft dodgers galore, "peace" activist who blew up things, hippies running wild, watergate, a gas shortage, a president who couldn't save some hostages in iran, and smasmouth football. ahh the good old days. [/quote] ::) Well first off I graduated in 1980 and today is any better? 14 million out of work, Half the population does not pay taxes, More people on welfare than ever, Young people don't get married so the government can pay for the baby to be born plus food stamps, diapers, formula, cheese, should I go on. Atleast some of us were reponsible for our own actions.  Yes, they was the good ole days when kids played outside, neighborhood football, basketball and baseball games. We was not in the AC playing X-Box eating twinkie's or ding dongs while drinking a coke or should I say entergy drink. 

[quote name="mypooh" post="1053700" timestamp="1315627343"] I thought the field went North and South after watching the spread all I see is East and West running plays. I've been to 4 games this year of 5A-4A football and I'm still waiting to hear some pads hit and see a hit that makes you stand up in the crowd. Like when a LB destroys a ISO play on the goalline. back went football was hitting and not hand fighting [/quote] Another good post.

[quote name="Gasilla" post="1052897" timestamp="1315603075"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=87848.msg1051776#msg1051776 date=1315464991] Saying that people aren't as in good of shape is preposterous, those work out programs you did in high school are done in middle school, the ones they do in highschool (at least good schools) are several steps above any strength and conditioning programs from 20 years ago, we simply know more about athletes and their bodies. Watch the spread attack when its ran in fast pace, it will wear out a defense in 5 plays everyone running to a line, that takes tremendous stamina. I think this is a "i miss the old days" moment and is an illusion. Not likeing the offense because you feel the passing ability in highschool is not good enough to run it correctly or you don't like side schemes in the running game, or whatever is something different. This is just a whining session that is "i wish it was 20-30 years ago, nothing less. [/quote] I agree Coug, you want life in the 80's, find a time machine... [/quote] What do you mean Gas??? It was the 70's. LOL!!!!!! Also by us having jobs during the summer it taught us the value of a dollar and responsibility along with hard work. I would venture to say that if more kids would have a job at a young age. This world would be in better shape instead of being spoiled and lazy. You don't see many kids from the 70's or 80's still mooching off their parents or their parents raising their kids. I would say yes we need a time machine to bring back morals and respectablity to this country.

[quote name="SFA85" post="1052955" timestamp="1315607150"] I don't call being in a 4 or 5 WR set on the 5 yard line as improvements.  The siren song of the Spread O has set a many a program back along with sending serveral Olinemen to college not being able to fire off properly and many a QB to the pros having to learn to take snaps from center [/quote] Great post man, I could not agree more.

[quote name="Cougtalk" post="1051776" timestamp="1315464991"] Saying that people aren't as in good of shape is preposterous, those work out programs you did in high school are done in middle school, the ones they do in highschool (at least good schools) are several steps above any strength and conditioning programs from 20 years ago, we simply know more about athletes and their bodies. Watch the spread attack when its ran in fast pace, it will wear out a defense in 5 plays everyone running to a line, that takes tremendous stamina. I think this is a "i miss the old days" moment and is an illusion. Not likeing the offense because you feel the passing ability in highschool is not good enough to run it correctly or you don't like side schemes in the running game, or whatever is something different. This is just a whining session that is "i wish it was 20-30 years ago, nothing less. [/quote] My gripe with the spread is, you have to have the personnel to run it. The great coaches will mold the offense around the talent he has on the field. You don't just wake up one morning and say I think I will run the spread. I have no problem with the spread if you have the personnel to run it. Some coaches insist on running it when they don't have the athlete's. As far as conditioning goes, depends on the coach, back when I was in school precautions were not taken like they are now because of the heat. During two a days it was full pads both sessions everyday. During the regular season it full pads till wednesday and shorts and shoulder pads on thursday. We did not have entergy drinks back then either. Because of all the deaths coaches cannot coach like they did 30 years ago. So in reality my gripe is not with the offense but with the coaches who insist on running it when they should not. No doubt the weight conditioning is better today. A lot of us did weight conditioning on our spare time because most of us had jobs during the summer.

[quote name="liltex" post="1050998" timestamp="1315357864"] Turned my own self in or I'd be a notch higher.Pic-em gods will smile on me this week ??? ;D [/quote] You did the honorable thing I applaud you.

[quote name="football fan34" post="1051478" timestamp="1315426882"] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=87848.msg1051119#msg1051119 date=1315369438] [quote author=One4All link=topic=87848.msg1051110#msg1051110 date=1315368628] [quote author=J.T. Williams link=topic=87848.msg1051068#msg1051068 date=1315363611] My next question is why do every school have seven man sled and dont use it? I am starting to think that some high school coaches use it as football decorations. [/quote] MOVE!!!!!...... You need to attend a school who has no speed ....then u will find your kind of high school football......I was in Big D. last yr and 99% of the school who Won  a state champions was in the SPREAD!!! [/quote] Smash mouth is old school and there is no school today that can hang with old school. We was in better shape, meaner, played harder, and had way more heart.  Just saying!!!!!! [/quote] we WAS in better shape huh? i hope the education today is better than your "old school" education [/quote] I was refering to past tense. Yes, education is better today but morals and respect are not.

[b]Memorial[/b] @ Alice Aldine Eisenhower @ [b]West Brook[/b] [b]Central[/b] @ Galveston Ball Barbers Hill @ [b]Nederland[/b] Ozen @ [b]Hou Sam Houston[/b] Conroe Caney Creek @ [b]LCM[/b] Crosby @ [b]Pearland[/b] Dayton @[b] Angleton[/b] Kirbyville @ [b]Vidor[/b] [b]Silsbee[/b] @ Lumberton Texas City @ [b]PNG[/b] [b]Anahuac[/b] @ Hardin Jefferson Kelly @ [b]Bridge City[/b] [b]Buna[/b] @ Hamshire Fannett [b]Coldspring[/b] @ Crockett [b]Jasper[/b] @ Houston Worthing Tarkington @ [b]Kountze[/b] Woodville @ [b]Orangfield[/b] [b]Hardin[/b] @ West Hardin [b]San Augustine [/b] @ West Sabine Warren @ [b]Deweyville[/b] Evadale @ [b]Trinity[/b] [b]Gal OConnel [/b] @ Sabine Pass High Island @ [b]Beaumont Legacy[/b] [b]Newton[/b] @ Corrigan Camden

Prayers to the Foreman Family.

[quote name="One4All" post="1051110" timestamp="1315368628"] [quote author=J.T. Williams link=topic=87848.msg1051068#msg1051068 date=1315363611] My next question is why do every school have seven man sled and dont use it? I am starting to think that some high school coaches use it as football decorations. [/quote] MOVE!!!!!...... You need to attend a school who has no speed ....then u will find your kind of high school football......I was in Big D. last yr and 99% of the school who Won  a state champions was in the SPREAD!!! [/quote] Smash mouth is old school and there is no school today that can hang with old school. We was in better shape, meaner, played harder, and had way more heart.  Just saying!!!!!!

[quote name="77" post="1051019" timestamp="1315359564"] We would get rocks thrown at us at a couple stadiums when we were in jr. high. No big deal we had helmets on. [/quote] What are you talking about 77? 

[quote name="SteelerCzy" post="1051010" timestamp="1315358623"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=87802.msg1051002#msg1051002 date=1315357998] To be honest I have as many black friends as I have white friends and we are all "bro". Racism is a well documented part of history, however, we can never move forward if we keep looking backwards. [/quote] Absolutely correct, good post. [/quote] Gave you some karma even though your name is steelerCzy. LOL!!!!! Come on Man!!!!!!

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1051002" timestamp="1315357998"] To be honest I have as many black friends as I have white friends and we are all "bro". Racism is a well documented part of history, however, we can never move forward if we keep looking backwards. [/quote] Great post man. I could not agree more.

[quote name="VPirate" post="1050875" timestamp="1315345759"] [quote author=YoungCoug21 link=topic=87802.msg1050787#msg1050787 date=1315340097] "You Mad Bro?", thats it? I could understand it if this that city has a history of racism such as _ _ _ _ _ (i'll let you fill this one in) playing against a team with a majority of Black Americans, but otherwise its nothing to get mad about... I hear this all the time & say this every now and again while winning a game, just to rub it in... they might be trying to hard to hit the news with this one. [/quote]            And what city are you referring to Coug21, I noticed you laid out 5 spaces for 5 letters, you talking about Vidor, If you are scared to name the city you had in mind just say your scared and be done with it. As for this sign that was displayed it was not necessary, and kinda stupid but was it racist I don't know what was in the hearts of the punks that displayed it so I can't say for sure. I will tell you one thing that does offend me, the city of Vidor has come along way in race relations and a lot of that credit go's to sports and the interaction that young men and women of Vidor have had with all races of young people in competitive sports. I for one am heart sick that some small minded folks wont let the good people of Vidor live down the past....we are not the same town of 20 or 30 yrs. ago. I would stand side by side with my black brothers against real racism but some of the so called racism that offends people today most of the strong black men and women I know would laugh at it on go on. I know this was a rant....but I fell strongly about this subject. [/quote] Great post VPirate, I could not agree more. Things are blown way out proportion these days. I use the term "Bro" all the time. It means brother to me. This is no different than a 19 year old boy having sex with a 16 year old girl and then he makes her mad so she hollers rape and he is now a sex offender and has no future and she gets pregnant right after that because basically she could not keep her legs closed but that is OK.  The messed up society we live in. Some just looking for that easy way out. Pretty much sums up the state of America. When they took prayer and paddling away from the schools and parents morals went out the window. Without morals this country will destroy itself. Will not happen in my time but it is coming and soon. This started way before Obama became president. He is not the blame and not for the deficit either.

[quote name="CATS80" post="1050263" timestamp="1315275211"] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=87773.msg1050255#msg1050255 date=1315274744] [quote author=CATS80 link=topic=87773.msg1050224#msg1050224 date=1315272818] [quote author=Riding Solo link=topic=87773.msg1050218#msg1050218 date=1315272410] [quote author=CATS80 link=topic=87773.msg1050204#msg1050204 date=1315271639] High School--Silsbee College-------LSU NFL-----------Dallas [ Well  Cat you got the Dallas right. 1 for 3 is not bad. LOL!!!!!! [/quote] Cool !    what did I win ;D [/quote] A trip to a texas longhorn game or even better an Orangefield game. I have season tickets. I will fix you up buddy. LOL!!!!!! [/quote]Ill take you up on the Orangefield game  But no way on the Longhorns unless they were playing LSU ;D [/quote] Cool, I will see what I can do brother. I can get you tickets to the LSU vs Northwestern game, I do have connections. LOL!!!!! After watching LSU sunday night they will not be playing Texas this year. Texas is not in their league right now.  ;D