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Thank you, sir. Tigervoice and I laugh that we probably have at least 50 years more in combined age over our sites other broadcast teams. Bunch of young punks. ;D Who you calling young punks.....you old fossil..... That was just a jab at my fellow broadcasters for this site.

Thank you, sir. Tigervoice and I laugh that we probably have at least 50 years more in combined age over our sites other broadcast teams. Bunch of young punks. ;D

go back to last year the beginning of the year it all sounds the same just reversed..HJ will get it's props(if it happens)....but you certainly don't expect Silsbee to concede at least till after Christmas..lol Props were given to Silsbee last year.........although none were received the season prior as HJ brought home the gold. Hold on Lazeek. I, along with some other Silsbee fans gave props to HJ for winning the gold 2 years ago. Even though I thought the Tigers should have won that regional final, I said it and will say it again, the better team won.

WHOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHHHH!!!! Right over your head. ;D

Only because of some multiple users voting. :

I don't think that you used the $35,000 figure. That came from The school board president himself in a meeting. Have you looked at the number of employees that we have compared to other 3A district or where else we might cut the budget. I agree it needs to be cut. But if you lose 2 kids because of this you have broken even. I'm just curious as to why you think they made the right choice. Tell me what facts that you have looked into that makes this the right choice. Do you think we will lose any kids? I totally believe that we should continue the transportation for the students if possible but NOT at the expense of cutting jobs!!!! Now there's a voice of reason. Good one Venom33.

If I am not mistaken, isn't it the rule that the clock has to be .03 in order for a player to even get a shot off? I would think that the game would go to overtime, no foul.

My guess, yeah they'll revisit the issue, but the vote will stay the same. Their hands are tied, they are being forced to cut costs, it's just that simple. The transportation is a luxury, one that no other school district is doing anymore, and with the shape of what WOS is in, it was a necessary move to cut that service. I believe that WOS will get through this okay. It is a shame that it had to be cut, but when cutting costs, like many are having to do these days, you have to do what's necessary.

WO-C CISD made wise choice with after hours transportation The Orange Leader By The Orange Leader In efforts to save money, the West Orange-Cove Consolidated Independent School District recently made the right decision to eliminate after hours school bus transportation for student athletes. In a 6-1 vote, trustees voted to stop providing school funded transportation for students after practices and games. The school board reports it will save approximately $25,866.96 a year. Students will still be transported to and from activities on buses yet after the activity is over, buses will only deliver students back to campus. This was a wise, tough decision for the board to make. The economy is not what it was once and neither is WO-C CISD. The service of bringing students home after practice or an activity began many years ago at the district when West Orange-Stark was a 4A or 5A school. Today, enrollment figures and funding are both dropping within the district. The Mustangs now operate in the 3A ranks and WO-C CISD was the only district within Orange County to provide the service. By cutting the after hours bus transportation, trustees kept their focus on education first and extra-curricular activities second. The after hours transportation was a luxary WO-C CISD can no longer afford. It’s better to trim bus rides than teaching staff or educational programs. Dr. O. Taylor Collins, WO-C CISD superintendent, also left open the possibility the board could review the after hours transportation at a later date. However, it is unfortunatte the board did not gather input from WO-S Athletic Director Dan Hooks before the meeting. We all want WOC CISD athletics to strive for excellence and to continue the long-standing tradition of winning the Mustangs have garnered over the years. But the board’s primary focus should be in the classroom

One thing that you might want to know is that the economically disadvantaged number is Silsbee is higher that advertised as well in other districts I'm sure. The number of economically disadvantaged in the WOS is probably pretty accurate. The way this number is derived is by the number of students that take advantage of free and reduced lunches. At WOS there is no distinction between a free and reduced and a full fare paying student. At Silsbee there are several lines in which to purchase lunch and the free and reduced in limited, thereby creating a stigma for some students. These students will go without before being designated free and reduced. Now the Silsbee administration is currently seeking a plan to allow the free and reduced students to freely choose what line they purchase out of which will not create such stigma. The problem is with the state monitoring what they can and cannot have. Along the lines of cutting transportation cost for after school extra curricular activities, I have to agree that the school districts sole purpose is to educate kids! But, I also know that if it were not for athletics some students would get involved in the wrong things after school.....and YES, athletics is the driving force for some students to succeed in school (LIKE IT OR NOT)! This is not taught by their teachers and coaches nor is it dealt down by the administration of school districts..... It is a fact of life. This comes from years of repression and single parent families trying to make it. Some of these students do not see the long-term effects of no or little education and simply feel that they cannot make it (unless they can be a STAR ATHLETE)..... I am making no excuses, just stating what you will learn if you talk to these students and really get behind their thoughts. Now, the state has been changing school districts financial accountability, and one of the changes has been that 65% of the money that is spent in the district must to directly to the classroom to educate kids. That gives the district only 35% to spend of transportation, athletics, maintenance etc. The district has no choice but to cuts cost outside the classroom where they can. I agree that the district needs to be fiscally responsible to the taxpayers, but we have to do what is right for student body as a whole. I do know that there are several students in Silsbee that have to get a ride with friends, relatives and I do know that we have coaches that take students home from time to time. The way I see it this decision should be made by the number of students that take advantage of the service and the number that would otherwise not participate! One thing to BucFan, apparently you are not economically disadvantaged nor do you understand the stressors in these family's lives. When times are tough for the middle and upper income class, they are far more stressful for the lower income families. I only mention this b/c you made mention that your kids are involved in academic extra curricular and at no time have you expected transportation for these events. Both of my kids participate in both athletic and academic events and I do not expect transportation either, but I do know that there are several VERY BRIGHT students in our district that would help our academic UIL teams, but they cannot participate because they have no means of transportation unless they catch the bus!!!!! So please know that not everyone is as fortunate as you or I! Awesome post, Silsbee88. Coming from you, I know the truth has been spoken. Thank you for your post.

If Hanna can get Honorable Mention(which he should), then Grogan should have also.

WOW!!! I don't know how you can possibly spin a 1-11 record into a 9-3 one. That my friend, is really, really reaching. :

I am not disputing these numbers. But I would like to know where you got them for my own benefit. Thanks

So true, so true.

This area?? I take it you mean for class 4A. You know, there are other teams locally that make it past the first round of regionals.

Explain to me how WOS is so different than Silsbee, Newton and other school districts in regards to this problem. These other school districts have single parent homes. These other school districts are experiencing tough times through the bad economy. How is this apples and oranges?

Now, now, K...............

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree that "football provides them an education". Colleges graduate maybe 50% of the football players, and also take into account many of the athletes take the simplest classes available. Students should attend school to get an education, "athletics" should not be the motivating factor to keep kids in school. Some schools simply don't get this. The GURU will now speak on this most unfortunate of topics! First of all bucky, I believe the comment about football helping kids with education was that extra curricular activities gives kids incentive to make good grades, stay in school, and get a college education. This is 100% accurate in the WOS school district. By cutting out transportation for extra curricular activities you will cut out the number of kids that will participate in these activities and will cause some to even not participate in school all together. I have a brother that has worked in this district and I can honestly say that the mismanagement of money for YEARS has caused this district the hardships that it is currently enduring! Unfortunately, the CHILDREN are ALWAYS the ones that SUFFER! Sorry bucky, but the buck stops here and The GURU has spoken!! I can only speak for my local school district, Silsbee, on this matter. Silsbee does not provide transportation back home for extra curricular activities, yet they have not suffered any loss to speak of in participation. The only numbers that have dropped in Silsbee are due to the population decline, therefore why we are in 3A now. The percentage of students participating in extra curricular have not changed. Silsbee hasn't provided transportation in years. I think it's great that WOS was still providing transportation for their students. But in these times, it was inevitable that it would change. I think you'll be suprised that the numbers will not drop significantly at WOS because of these changes.

I was in the house too. WOS is okay.

Thanks for clearing that up, Nos. I knew that but I was just curious if Boutte had a master's or not. Btw, like it was mentioned earlier, if he did get the job, do you have any clue as to who Ozen would be interested in? You can pm me your thoughts if you would like.

This is as about a smart a post as I have ever read on these forums. Kudos ECBucFan. Please continue on. BTW, these kind of changes are happening all over, not just at WOS.

Glad to see that Andre has bigger asperations in life, but it really doesn't suprise me that he does. My question, does Boutte have a master's?

and I've been preaching this for how many years? : My sentiments are, if you are going to have an all-state team, do the PROPER research and do it right! It's like last year's 4A team, Dravantti Johnson of Nederland was second team all-district, but garnered 1st team all-state and 4A defensive player of year. You can go back over the years and see this kind of assinine results on the AP teams.

I agree. The regional should have stayed at Lamar.

My thoughts on this is that the YMBL knew what they were getting this year. Moving back to the Montagne came with some stipulations. I believe in the future, things will be scheduled better. Contrary to what Miss Walters thinks, if I am Coach Roc, I am going to have my shoot around where I am going to play my game, the Montagne, not McDonald. This is my homecourt, and for this very important home game, I would not want to have to adjust to someone else's schedule. Lamar basketball is more important to Lamar University than the YMBL tourney is to LU and that it should be.