Shake and bake thanks for the info and these guys really do seem like nice guys! I think it's great that they continue to coach after their daughters have moved on but I'm sure they got involved in softball because they had a daughter that played so I just don't agree with the fact that all these teams are complaining because other teams are forming. Now I do think there are alot of select teams out there but the thing is not all of them have teams for the younger girls. GT Shockers is just now forming a 10U team and I know the coach that will be coaching those girls and alot of people don't like her but as far as I'm concerned she is a great coach. My daughter had her as a coach and she loved her. So all I am saying if all these organizations had teams for all age groups then there probably wouldn't be as many teams out there.