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So very true, as are all the Athletes.

Where are all the Kountze fans?

With a new Coach and a new System and supposedly a bunch of new Players, I'm pretty sure Livingston wasn't holding anything back. The fact that they got donkey stomped by Hardin does not bode well for the immediate future. Maybe they will have the kinks ironed out by district.

God is Great!!! So glad you are doing well and Lord willing on the road to a full recovery!!!

I can name 5 that i know personally on this list that have better credentials and even some of them have winning records as a Head Coach.

The list of applicants two years ago was pretty impressive, i think. I know it was posted on here. Can anyone re-post it?

Do we have an Announcement to make? Shepherd has a job posted on THSCA, but the contact person is NOT Miles Robison?

Sometimes the difference in 4-6 and 6-4 are a couple of games against the "Weak Sisters of the Poor" and "The School for the Blind and the Deaf." When your pretty sure you are going to be one and done in the playoffs, you should probably schedule some on those in Non-District to pad that record and make yourself a viable candidate for a better job. JMO, because we all know there are only two kids of coaches. Those that have been fired and those that will be fired. As a HC, you better win as many games as you can, regardless of who they are against.

And when you look at those records i have to question his scheduling ability. With the Humble's of the world and a few other schools that would have happily played and lost to Nimitz, I'm not sure why the records are not better than they are.

Robert Toomer - next HFC at Baytown Sterling Aldine Nimitz 2009 4-6 2010 2-8 2011 4-7 2012 7-4 2013 4-7 2014 2-8 Brookshire-Royal 2017 1-9 Why did this guy get the job?

Agreed, they are hared to pass up. And I can forgive one such abysmal job on a coaches record, but two or three or God forbid four? At some point losing becomes a trend that is the fault of the Head man. And why these guys keep getting chances is what I can't understand and NOBODY can explain to me.

Sounds to me like the Head Coach should have done his due diligence and not applied for those jobs. I've been in enough places to know how the good ones work and how the bad ones work, and everywhere I have ever been the Head Football Coach had some input into who was hired at the JH, but you are right whn you say some places don't do what it takes to win, and probably never will. My response is don't apply for and don't take those jobs. My point in this whole argument is why are Proven Losers continually getting hired for jobs? When they have proven they are going to lose regardless of the circumstances. Look at the most recent hires at some average schools who have hired Proven Losers. Why did those coaches get a shot and not a coordinator or former head coaches with an above .500 winning percentage?

I guess I will copy and paste my response in this thread too, so maybe if you read it twice you might get it. Yes, they were and if they have proven over various (more than ONE) stops that they don't have the ability to be HEAD COACHES and win some dang games then stop hiring them. Some guys are NOT head coach material. They may be good X and O guys, but there is more to being a head coach than offense or defense. It is the JOB of the head coach to organize the entire program. If he cant hire coaches to get the Junior High program running smoothly then he probably doesn't need to be a head coach. If the gene pool is so bad then he probably shouldn't have taken the job in the first place. Locking kids up in double block English/Math classes has absolutely ZERO impact on what you do after school. Per the UIL, everybody in the state is allotted 45 minutes during the school day and 8 hours a week to practice after school with 90 minutes of full contact allowed. Stop making excuses and get the job done, as a friend of mine likes to say, Just Win Baby!!

Yes, they were and if they have proven over various (more than ONE) stops that they don't have the ability to be HEAD COACHES and win some dang games then stop hiring them. Some guys are NOT head coach material. They may be good X and O guys, but there is more to being a head coach than offense or defense. It is the JOB of the head coach to organize the entire program. If he cant hire coaches to get the Junior High program running smoothly then he probably doesn't need to be a head coach. If the gene pool is so bad then he probably shouldn't have taken the job in the first place. Locking kids up in double block English/Math classes has absolutely ZERO impact on what you do after school. Per the UIL, everybody in the state is allotted 45 minutes during the school day and 8 hours a week to practice after school with 90 minutes of full contact allowed. Get the job done, as a friend of mine likes to say, Just Win Baby!!

Hence, proven losers.

Places like Sterling are the perfect place for that too.

That's why you hire Coordinators with a vision and a plan.

Proven Loser

It is a Toomer!!!!!

2002 - 8-3 - Terry Pool - 2nd in District 2003 - 8-2 - Terry Pool - 3 way tie for 1st 2004 - 7-4 - Terry Pool - 3rd 2005 - 4-5 - David Westfall - 4th (no playoffs) 2006 - 8-3 - David Westfall - District Champions 2007- 5-6 - David Westfall - 3rd 2008 - 5-4 - David Westfall - 3rd 2009 - 5-5 - David Westfall - 5th

Represents the feelings of many.

You are very right my fine Sir, Life is Politics. It has never been and never will be about WHAT you know or WHAT you can do. It is and always will be about WHO you know and WHO you chew bubble gum with. My time in Livingston has passed with a number of fond memories and some life long friendships. One day in my more golden years, I might run for the school board and see if I can be a voice of change. There are a number of factors that went into the School Boards decision and they are well within their rights to hire whomever they choose. I know for a fact that a certain faction of the board holds a personal vendetta against Randy Rowe and anybody ever associated with him, which is truly sad.

I have a little bit of insight into this situation, and I can guarantee you NOBODY won with the group of Senior that is graduating. The best football player in that class was the head coaches kid. There were a few lineman that were average to above average, but zero skilled players that ever had an impact. The Juniors had moderate levels of success through junior high and attrition won the battle in high school. Some of the best players from this class quit football for one reason or another. Now the Sophomore and Freshman classes should be better, if they can keep the numbers up. These two groups had good success at all levels coming up. From my understanding, speed has been the biggest problem plaguing the program. Other that the Mitchell kid (move in from Coririgan) there has been little to no speed in the program recently and currently. The kids who were moderately fast at younger levels have been caught and passed by their opponents or have quit football all together. Because of this lack of speed, a greater importance has bee placed on increasing speed and quickness in off season to the detriment of strength. Being slow and weak is a bad combination. Broussard tried to make a splash after his first year by getting rid of the entire coaching staff, and he has been unable to hire good coaches since. Just look at the turnover during his tenure and you will come to the conclusion that there is something wrong with his leadership skills.

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I will be more than happy to. And, I won't say which Coach on the Livingston staff said it, but had one tell me that we (Livingston) aren't good enough to beat Huntington. I will let that simmer until September.