PoppaBearstarr

Kountze vs HJ and Silsbee vs HJ

[quote name="ST413" post="885182" timestamp="1287852362"] These rankings have to be taken with a grain of salt. HJ deserves to be ranked high, as does Cleveland. It does seem like the Tigers always start the year ranked lower than they deserve. Not sure if this is the case this year or not after losing two 6'6" players.  But over the last several years it seems no matter who we are returning we receive a lower ranking than I would expect. [/quote] Agreed Silsbee should b ranked higher...

[quote name="utfan06" post="882857" timestamp="1287696015"] Im ready for HJ vs Kountze:) I think HJ is over rated this year:)  (Zeek im sure youll get fired up about the comment i just made) and I also think PPL are gonna under estimate the Lions this year.. [/quote] Just like the last three years

[quote name="Lefty99" post="893154" timestamp="1288567133"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=75311.msg893076#msg893076 date=1288560491] How highly is Ford being recruited? I mean are the BCS schools showing him some love? [/quote] [b]BCS Schools[/b] Bama-no offer Baylor-offer Colorado St-offer TCU-no offer A&M-offer Texas Tech-no offer Tulane-offer Tulsa-offer Vanderbilt-offer FCS Schools(offers from all) SFA Lamar Sam Houston Northerwestern St McNeese St. [/quote] I would love to see this kid at A&M

They cant seem to get over that HJ bug....

I guess that we will see.

The C and The U are in the wrong place.  ;D

Just my take on the game, Silsbee was bigger and more athletic. Lumberton played with heart and was very well coached @ EVERY position.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="841699" timestamp="1283919571"] The 9300 seating capacity that TexasBob has was before Silsbee made the add-on on the home side. According to the info given me, Tiger Stadium now has a capacity of 10,000 after the semi horseshoe was added. If I remember from last time Lumberton visited Tiger Stadium, you guys failed to fill up the visitor side then. I don't see a problem this time around as far as having enough seating for Raider fans. ;) [/quote] The problem is parking, The Tiger stadium is second to none in hardin county

Kirbyville. WOS, and Silsbee.

Congrats to Jeff, He is well deserving, I always thought he has been a great football coach.

ouch.

Congrats, that is awesome.

[quote name="jhamilton" post="831897" timestamp="1282931860"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=71475.msg831868#msg831868 date=1282928474] HJ will be fine HJ in by two touchdowns. [/quote] We will see here shortly and hope to see you HJ fans afterwards. Travel safely. [/quote] I'm sure you will.  ;D

HJ will be fine HJ in by two touchdowns.

Yall are making way too much sense

Man what is the deal, HJ has had some great players and I thought they played together as a team and won. Why are you always trying to separate the kids based on geographical area's. The fact is that they all come together and play great together. Why is this a problem with you.

this is a crazy funny thread, one stood against many.

I would be so upset I would move to HJ.... ;D

It just didn't seem swaggish enough.  ;D

[quote name="Betrayed" post="827616" timestamp="1282269845"] I have no hard data to confirm this, but after years of interacting with youth coaches, my best estimate is that somewhere between 90 and 95% of youth coaches in all sports become involved with coaching kids because of their own children. Most of these coaches decide to "help out" on their son or daughter's teams. A few are selected to be head coaches despite inexperience and relative lack of knowledge. (Lazeek)  ;D ;D ;D   Please note that I have the utmost respect for these 'Dad-coaches'. Especially the fair-minded 1's that treat all of the players equally and give no preferential treatment to their kids.In my opinion, parent-coaches are not a very good idea. There are a variety of reasons why I feel that way, but here are the most important ones. To start with, your relationship with your son or daughter must be different on the field or on the court than it is at home. On the practice field or court, thats why criticism is important."Criticism is like money. A player should not worry about receiving it. They should worry about a lack of it."[b] A player can't improve if he or she doesn't know what he's doing incorrectly[/b]. Many parents have enormous difficulty criticizing their own children.There is also the issue of perception. As an example, imagine a head football coach or Basketball coach who is coaching his own son. After the first week of practice, his son's name appears on the depth chart as a first string quarterback or point guard. Other parents of players on the team will notice this. Their sons will come home and tell them about practice and the new guard, or quarterback. They may notice the changes when the team is announced at the first game of the season. They will likely begin to chat amongst themselves about the team. Sooner or later, human nature being what it is, [b] some parent is going to complain. Some parent, probably one that has never even been to a practice[/b], is going to get the idea that the coach's son is only the quarterback or point guard because he's the coach's son,[b] or race.[/b]  Eventually that irate parent is going to bleat to the league administration about the unfairness. This head coach will soon be accused of nepotism. Now, based on the information we have before us, is the coach guilty as charged? Yes, I  did say yes!! The coach is guilty of nepotism, of giving favored treatment to his son because of their relationship. Why is he guilty? [b]Because he allowed himself to be perceived as guilty.[/b] Unfortunately his actual intentions are completely irrelevant once that perception takes root in the minds of the parents and administration of his league. Anyone in a position of leadership and authority must hold themselves to a higher standard. At all times, the "Parent Coach" must be perceived as honorable, fair, and devoted to his team. His players must know that he can be trusted, because he is trustworthy. What does it tell the players when their coach tells them to work hard, to give it 100%, and then places his son in the most coveted position on the team? [b]I believe that it tells them to stop trying, because they cannot trust their coach.[/b] Perhaps that coach's son truly is the best quarterback, or point guard on the team. Perhaps he is destined for an D1 scholarship in a few years. Perhaps he's a natural leader, with poise and confidence beyond his years, who inspires his teammates to play at a higher level. Here is the catch-22 for parent-coaches, and the single largest reason I am against the idea of parents coaching their own kids. [b]There is no way to be completely be fair to all parties in this situation. If a coach makes his son the quarterback, or point guard, he'll be accused of playing favorites.[/b] If the coach gives another boy the position, then not only is he shafting his son, but his entire team suffers because a lesser-talented player is now running the offense. Is the coach's son, by virtue of his lineage, not allowed to compete on an equal basis with his teammates for all the positions? In recent memories, A coach in a Youth League placed his son in the starting quarterback position. Unfortunately, his team had a losing season, and, [b]as always when a coach has a bad year, nay-sayers and bad-mouthers came out from the woodwork.[/b] Apparently, the sole reason they had a losing season was that the coach's son was the quarterback. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Those of us on the inside of the league knew that his son was one of the most gifted natural athletes in the league. In fact, his son was on my own draft list in 2nd place until I discovered he was the son of another coach, and our league automatically sent him to his father's team. The position I intended to place him in was quarterback. I have my suspicions about why their team had a losing season, and they have nothing to do with nepotism. Unfortunately, that was the perception, therefore that was the fact. It's not right, but it's common. [b]There is really only one way to be completely fair, and be perceived as completely fair,[/b] and that is to refrain from coaching your own child. This is a radical viewpoint, but I think it's an honest one. Understand, I mean no disrespect to parent-coaches. This sort of assumes a "perfect world" scenario. In a perfect world, there would always be enough competent, fair coaches for every team. I know this is not usually the case, and most parent-coaches started coaching their sons because there just wasn't anyone else. I applaud the sense of responsibility that made these coaches step forward when they were needed. There are very, very few coaches, especially at the youth level, that do not have children. My recommendation is that parents make every effort to avoid coaching their own sons. It can be done if you use some creativity. For example, if your son is a linebacker, then I recommend that you coach the offensive unit, and hand the defense off to your assistant coach. Obviously this isn't a perfect solution. What do you do if your son plays both ways? The answer that I have is 'I don't know.' At all times the most important thing to remember is the perception your players have of you. They must always know that you will do the right thing. They must know that their hard work will be rewarded with their placement on the depth chart, and their playing time. [b]Your best defense against a charge of nepotism is your players,[/b] who will always be able to tell if you are fair and honorable.Coaching your own son or daughter is a huge responsibility, but along with that responsibility comes the equally great responsibility to the players that are not related to you. They too deserve competent, fair coaching from you. [/quote] [size=12pt]OK first let me say that you bring up some interesting philosophy on this topic, your points were thought provoking, actually I thought it was one of your best post yet. I actually kept scrolling up to the top many times to make sure that you had posted it.  I will respond to each bold quotes, I'm just trying to hone in on your central thesis. I do agree with you on some points of what you articulated so nicely.  :) [list] [*]Players need direction....I agree, but from the coach, not the stands  ;) [*]Doesn't HAVE to be a parent now does it.... :o [*]Wasn't quite sure how but I knew you would get race in there some where, or are we talking about track season. Can you explain this better I'm having trouble ??? [*]Install mind control devices to change the perception of others....got it....want to be first  ;D [*] "it" doesn't tell them other people do, other than the coaches. [*]Got it coaches shouldn't be able to procreate, or should they just quit there job until there child gets out of school, or maybe send them to a different school so he or she will never get to see them play. I do agree that it is and always will be very difficult [*]Let the kids decide who to play....got it...I do agree that kids detect unfair treatment long before adults. But IMHO I think they should be allowed to coach there kids, yes it's going to cause some problems but hopefully the players is mature enough to ask what he or she is doing wrong, at the very least find out the absolute best way to help the TEAM. [/list][/size] After I posted it I should say read it in order, each comment that is in bold has a response in order. I wasn't sure if it was clear.

[quote name="Betrayed" post="816857" timestamp="1278620541"] Maybe if some of the "Coaches and Assn't Coaches" stop worrying about themselves and their records, and stop playing Legacy and other water-downed basketball programs around here and schedule some bigger programs where some scouts might be at, instead of playing teams where [b]only parents attend the games[/b]. Go play some ranked 4a and 5a schools. When was the last time Hj has even played a ranked 4a or 5a school?? Promote the kids, let us see for ourselves if they can play on the same court as guys going D1 instead of getting on here and telling us their not good enuff. Maybe the coach and his staff will get exposed instead of the players. I witnessed both all-state players from this area  get theirs against other all state players in the Tabc all state game. Matter of fact, They Started!! ;)  It was sad to say i think only 1 guy at the time didn't even have a Juco offer. It was quite embarrassing for the young man when everyone was asking him where was he going. But hey, it is what it is. Go coach some games where you don't always have the best athlete or bball player on the court. [/quote] [size=12pt]I'm not a parent of a basketball player, future basketball player, or past player, but I attend almost every game and there are a lot more just like me. I remember not to long ago HJ playing Wheatly in Beaumont. I think it was Coaches first year back. Why is your focus on alway's trying to make the coaches look bad, They put out a lot of time for the kids to help them become better players and better people, If you don't like it go get a degree and coach. Spend sixty to eighty hours a week helping kids, get paid almost nothing so you can come home get on the internet and have someone  b!+(#  constantly about you. It kills me to see someone so upset over a situation and then do absolutely nothing to fix it. Go get a coaching job, cause I'm sure there will be someone, like yourself, that will get on here and set you straight. Man you must have missed a lot of playing time when you were in school. [/size]

It was a great tournament. Great Job.

We'll give you the district.ut I want he region..... ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="815300" timestamp="1277857887"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=70622.msg815296#msg815296 date=1277853924] Never the less HJ will be solid again, barring any injuries...Cant wait till the season starts and swag(Betrayed) will have to eat his words again. [/quote] Careful there, Poppa.  YOu might get your post erased for addressing swag/betrayed [/quote] oops...