WOSgrad

Just to let y'all know, we will have at least one week of playoff pickems, maybe more. Port Arthur Memorial vs. Baytown Sterling West Brook vs. La Porte Barbers Hill vs. Crosby Central vs. PN-G Ozen vs. Lumberton LC-M vs. Nederland Vidor vs. Livingston Diboll vs. Jasper Center vs. Kirbyville Hamshire-Fannett vs. Silsbee Bridge City vs. Orangefield WO-S vs. Hardin-Jefferson Coldspring vs. Liberty Anahuac vs. Hardin Buna vs. Woodville Kountze vs. Newton Warren vs. East Chambers Corrigan-Camden vs. Groveton Burkeville vs. Sabine Pass Evadale vs. High Island

[quote name="indianforever" post="893130" timestamp="1288565145"] [quote author=tappedout link=topic=74801.msg893125#msg893125 date=1288564825] How is PNG in with a loss and Ned, Liv. win. That would put 4 team's in 2nd place with 4-3 record's. What's the tie-breaker here? [/quote] its not by points...its by head to head matchup [/quote] That is correct.  and under that 4 team tie, the head to head records would be Nederland 2-1(beat PNG and LCM, lost to Livingston), Livingston 2-1 (beat PNG and Nederland, lost to LCM), PNG 1-2 (beat LCM, lost to Livingston and Nederland) and LC-M 1-2 (beat Livingston, lost to PNG and Nederland). Livingston. Nederland and PNG would be the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place teams.  Livingston who has the same 2-1 record as Nederland would claim 2nd via its head to head win.  Nederland would be in 3rd.  PNG, who shares the 1-2 record with LCM, would claim 4th due to the win it has over LCM.

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[quote name="ShlyKBMT" post="893060" timestamp="1288559138"] I'm a little confused with the Nederland scenario. They're in with a win OR a 2 pt win? [/quote] I understand, and I will try to explain it out because the scenario has as much to do with whether PNG wins. There is a scenario in which PNG, Nederland and Livingston all win.  That would give PNG a 5-2 mark and leave LCM, Nederland and Livingston with identical 3-3 marks.  The first tiebreaker, head to head would decide nothing, so you go to the point spread tiebreaker, which currently has LCM at +8 (57-49 win over Livingston), Livingston as -3 (21-16 win over Nederland and 57-49 loss to LCM) and Nederland at -5 (21-16 loss to Livingston.  So in order for Nederland to get into the playoffs in this scenario, the must beat LCM by 3 points or more to get a -2 or better on the point differential. Like I said, it is only in the event that both PNG and Livingston win, too.  But it is a possibility which prevented me from saying just a Nederland win gets them in.

You can still catch most of it as it started at 3:00!

[quote name="APanthers" post="893006" timestamp="1288555187"] Will Anahuac be district champ's if they beat Hardin ? [/quote] No, they'll share the district championship with East Chambers if they win unless the Buccaneers fall to Warren.  And even then East Chambers would be able to lay claim to the district championship as they beat Anahuac a week ago.

[quote name="venom33" post="892945" timestamp="1288550439"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=75300.msg892920#msg892920 date=1288549085] H-J has a decent passing attack.  Stangs will win but not as much as by some may think. [/quote] grad, its ok to predict a blowout! orangefield hung 55 on them last week and allowed 13, and you dont think the stangs can follow suit? at what point did the cats defense become better than ours?  give credit where credit is due.  ;) [/quote] I'm an admin here, venom...I am trying to be kind! Anyways, Mustang Nation needs somebody else to imitate Lou Holtz aside from skipper!

H-J has a decent passing attack.  Stangs will win but not as much as by some may think.

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[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="892825" timestamp="1288545355"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=74801.msg892823#msg892823 date=1288545275] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=74801.msg892812#msg892812 date=1288544375] Nederland will have to miss the playoffs for PN-G to be D1 with us...  If Nederland makes the playoffs, PN-G is a lock for D2... [/quote] That's correct, Soulja OR if Vidor makes the playoffs (and yes, they still have a shot). [/quote]A long shot.  Very long... [/quote] Awww, come on  Soulja, they only need Ozen to get its first district win of the year. LOL!

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="892812" timestamp="1288544375"] Nederland will have to miss the playoffs for PN-G to be D1 with us...  If Nederland makes the playoffs, PN-G is a lock for D2... [/quote] That's correct, Soulja OR if Vidor makes the playoffs (and yes, they still have a shot).

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[quote name="baddog" post="892762" timestamp="1288539176"] I thought if Nederland wins, they're in. [/quote] That is pretty much the case.  The point spread for a Nederland victory would only come into play if PN-G also wins and Livingston wins.  That would create a three way tie amongst the final two spots between LCM, Nederland and Livingston all at 4-3.  Of course, first tiebreaker is head to head competition amongst the tied teams.  In this case, that doesn't assist us as all teams would be 1-1 (LCM beat Livingston, Livingston beat Nederland and Nederland would have beaten LCM).  THEN, you have to go to point differentials.  Right now it stands at LCM +8 (they beat Livingston by 8), Livingston at a -3 (Beat Nederland by 5, lost to LCM by 8) and Nederland at -5 (lost to Livingston by 5).  So if Nederland were to win by 3 points are more, they would have at worst a -2 and this would move them above Livingston.  Of course, the Lion fans would be hoping for a win of 12 or more to drop LCM's point differential to the point where they are behind Livingston.

[quote name="tvc184" post="892763" timestamp="1288539702"] [quote author=lu cards link=topic=75312.msg892624#msg892624 date=1288501584] was told tonight png is in regardless of what happens next week. [/quote] Nope. [/quote] Actually, yeah, I ran all of the scenarios and permutations on what could occur on Friday and every one of them is getting puts PNG in the playoffs.  Remember guys, first tiebreaker is not point differential amongst the tied teams, it is head to head records amongst.  Point differentials come in to play ONLY if ALL teams are TIED after looking at the head to heads.

[quote name="PURPLE 4EVER" post="892711" timestamp="1288532516"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=74801.msg892630#msg892630 date=1288502829] Guys, I have figured this with all games now and after figuring I determined something in 20-4A, PNG is in! [/quote] If PN-G losses, won't they be the #2 seed in division II? [/quote] Actually I jumped the gun a little when I said that they were a DII playoff, they could still be a DI.

No, points are only gone to if head to head fails.  Believe me after WO-S' last two years in 20-4A and being home despite successive 8-2  marks, the folks from West Orange-Stark are ALL too familiar with the 20-4A tiebreakers. LOL!

[quote name="Englebert" post="892623" timestamp="1288501526"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=75312.msg892616#msg892616 date=1288500600] I've just gone through the scenarios and um, I think PN-G may be in regardless. [/quote] PNG does not make the playoffs if Central, Livingston and Nederland win (with Nederland winning by 11 or less) because currently: Livingston is +4 LCM is +3 and has to lose Nederland is +2 and has to win PNG is -9 Of these 4, 3 will make the playoffs. So the one with the worst point differential is out. Livingston will be +4. Nederland will be +??? (higher than +2) depending on the score. LCM is currently +3 and just has to stay better than -9, which is an 11 point loss or less. In this scenario, LCM, Nederland and Livingston all have better point differentials than PNG. Let me know if you find something wrong with this one. [/quote] No, remember the first tie break is not point spread, but head to head records amongst the tied teams.  That does create a four way tie between PNG, LCM, Livingston and Nederland.  In that case, the first tiebreaker is head to head record amongst the tied teams.  Nederland (beat PNG and in this scenario, LCM and lost to Livingston) has a 2-1 mark.  Livingston (beat PNG and Nederland, lost to LCM) also has a 2-1 mark.  PNG (beat LCM, lost to Nederland and Livingston) and LCM (beat Livingston, lost to PNG and in this scenario Nederland) would have 1-2 marks. Nederland and Livingston would go due to their 2-1 marks amongst the tied teams. PNG would go in this scenario due to having the head to head tie breaker with the other team (LCM) with a 1-2 mark.   So if Central, Nederland and Livingston win, then Nederland, Livingston, and PNG are the remaining playoff teams.

Guys, I have figured this with all games now and after figuring I determined something in 20-4A, PNG is in!

I've just gone through the scenarios and um, I think PN-G may be in regardless.

Complaining about the refs is an age-old tradition.  The internet just lets everyone see what used to be limited to the barber shops and diners.

Geez, not something you want to see for homecoming.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="892309" timestamp="1288487420"] Total yards for both teams in first half: Lumberton    66 yards Central        44 yards [/quote] [size=24pt]DEEEEEEFENSE[/size]

The player is up now!

Looks like they are having trouble getting the webcast going.