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[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1229400" timestamp="1339175127"] [quote author=indianforever link=topic=100445.msg1229395#msg1229395 date=1339174438] does anyone know where i can find a tackiling dummy for sale...i am not sure if academy carries them or not [/quote] Hey, if we can get together on price, I'll rent you my wife. ;D [/quote] Brother, that's freaking hilarious!

[quote name="dogpile" post="1230122" timestamp="1339522349"] ....never have been from png and the bands colors has nothing to do with w & l's .... its called school spirit whether they are winning or losing and being a true fan.  I also do not and never have put the blame on the AD like most of lumberton.  I tell everyone that complains that  you cant do anything without a line!  as far as the mums .... they should be promoting school spirit so the kids will be proud of their school and want to play for it wether they are winning or losing.....I do and always have bled columbia blue -  just really getting tired of the lack of school pride! [/quote] I can appreciate your feelings about the school pride, and I probably came off a little too hard in reply to your previous post; however, the topic at hand was the request for the coach's removal greatly due to the offense that he has chosen to run with the personnel he has to work with and also why Lumberton can't seem to win...School pride may be part of the issue, but it does not overshadow the main problems, in my opinion.

Thanks for a great night of football It was really a good game.  My whole family went and we stayed til the very end.  It sure is fun watchin all our boys one more time.  Thanks again.

[quote name="dogpile" post="1229309" timestamp="1339124626"] The problem in lumberton is NO PRIDE in the schools.  Some campuses will not allow the students to wear homecoming  mums!  The band marches on the the field in black...(bet you would not see  anyone from PNG step on the field in anything but their school colors!! ) middle school students are kicked out of athletics for getting too many tags (could be from tardies) and are not allowed to participate their freshman year.  really???? what happened to making them do GOLF?  I just wonder how many of these students will go down the wrong road now? take a look at their web sight ..... the only  sport to update their achievements was boys soccer; which i would assume was from  coach luttrell; which rumor has will be coaching at PNG. :'(  ....i could go on and on but my blood pressure is high...... so glad my kids are now out!  oh yeah.... what  happened to the lumberton baseball teams trophies and pictures that were in the case..... someone threw them out!  NOW that is SCHOOL PRIDE!!! PNG would have tar and feathered someone over that! [/quote] Sounds like you need to go back to PN-G!  Look, if the fact that the band marches in black is causing the Raider football team to lose games, then there is a helluva a lot more wrong with the program than anyone can EVER fix!  The fact of the matter is this: 1. Lumberton is at the bottom in the state enrollment for 4-A schools  (less players to choose from) 2. Hammerheads who are clueless calling for the coach's termination at every corner 3. Although Lumberton has SOME talent, they need a stronger core...like with the playoff teams from a few short years ago 4. A winning tradition backed by the community With all due respect (which is very little from the content of your mindless post), If a 3rd grader can't wear a homecoming mum, nobody in their right mind would associate that with W's and L's for the Raider football team.  The program needs a level of talent not offered with current enrollment; it needs support from the school district to fund the program and it needs support from the community who will stand behind the program...not complain about inconsequential sport updates on a website that almost noone visits anyway. Man...that feels better!  Keep the faith Coach Credeur...some people in this community still have a clue.

[quote name="DawgsOfGold" post="1229675" timestamp="1339343333"] Bmt G should do well in pw's this yr! [/quote] No doubt about that...they were great last year...No 3, 9 & 11 are standouts!

[quote name="Raider81" post="1227604" timestamp="1338487745"] High School football (or any other high school sport or activity) is not like a professional sport in that they can hire the players according to their strengths and make them fit their particular plan of attack.  In high school sports, one must work with the players who show up wanting to be a part of the team.  Types of offense, defense and every other part of the game are based on those players.  A coach can't decide to run X type of offense, just for grins and giggles.  He has zero chance of success that way.  Just because Lumberton has been struggling doesn't mean Credeur is a poor coach making poor decisions. Lumberton has mostly struggled, history being what it is.  I think a huge part of the answer is the lack of tradition building in Lumberton.  At PNG, indoctrination into the tribe begins early.  Kindergartners don't change their color when they've talked in class.  They move their feather!  We have no traditions in Lumberton.  [b]Honestly, having kids in high school now, I can tell you that part of the problem is that the school has become too rigid in what is allowed and what isn't.  School in Lumberton has no fun, no joy.  There's no pride because it's not allowed to be celebrated.  The student body doesn't have the heart, because it was never given to them and is not encouraged in any way, shape or form.  [/b] I couldn't wait to get my kids out of BISD when they were little and into Lumberton, but I have been highly disappointed.  Apathy in our schools runs rampant, both in the student body and in the faculty.  It's sad. [/quote] It is hard to reply to this comment because the poster has given no details regarding the highlighted comments above.  I would mainly agree that there needs to be traditions and that those traditions do have something to do with winning, but an even bigger part has to do with facilities. Lumberton will be getting a new field house and updated stands, etc. which is good for the program as a whole.  But even with the best facilities in the world and all the tradition of a Texas A&M or a UT, you have to have skilled players and good coaches...Lumberton had that winning combination just a few years ago WITH the current coach. So, what's missing??? You do the math...

I don't know what raidernaytion's experience is with coaching football.  I can only say this...unless a person has coached or knows a whole lot about coaching anything more than powderpuff football, sometimes it's best to not say anything...If that person chooses not to keep quiet (which is definitely his right), he just might let people understand how really stupid he is...not calling names...just explaining a scenario...

[quote name="bigtexn" post="1217218" timestamp="1335979845"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=99633.msg1217214#msg1217214 date=1335979546] [quote author=bigtexn link=topic=99633.msg1217187#msg1217187 date=1335976537] Anyone up for some STJFL fantasy football?  I've got my draft picks ready to go!  ;) [/quote] How does it work? [/quote] Works the same as pro fantasy football...points are awarded for: 1) Touchdowns 2) Rushing yards 3) Receiving yards Points are deducted for: 1) Crying while on field 2) Coming off field "hurt" every 2 plays 3) Waving at mom while on field [/quote] I'm in if you add one more to "awarded points" for Hot Moms on the sidelines and one more to "deducted points" for coaches crying on/off the field!

[quote name="bigtexn" post="1217187" timestamp="1335976537"] Anyone up for some STJFL fantasy football?  I've got my draft picks ready to go!  ;) [/quote] How does it work?

Who the Heck knows at this point!!!

[quote name="SFAlumberjack13" post="1212251" timestamp="1334782669"] So anyways getting on topic. Good luck to coach Barbay. I really hope he sticks around for a while. I feel Jasper has the potential to be great if they just had a consistent coach [/quote] +1

[quote name="wife" post="1212215" timestamp="1334779255"] [quote author=T-daddy link=topic=99041.msg1212156#msg1212156 date=1334772743] [quote author=j_dog link=topic=99041.msg1211655#msg1211655 date=1334698545] I agree, Jasper is too small of a school for kids not to play more than one sport. [/quote] I agree I want my son to continue playing football so let me tell you a TRUE story..after morgan left coach mixon (baseball coach) continued going to the field house every morning early so the football players could work out. about 15 kids are now showing up and they were just sitting around talking..he asked them why they are not working out that they needed to get stronger faster ect..he asked who was a leader on the team one of our starting soph stood up and said he was the coach started telling him how he needed to lead and encourage everyone to work hard..this (superstar) began dropping F bombs and cussed him up and down including alot of racist comments (towards white's)..now first i give the coach alot of respect for not beating him down..second its this thug mentality that keeps alot of great white athlete's playing baseball year around and out of football..I understand its hard for a football coach to kick a great player off the team but as a father do you really want your son around this type of atmosphere..This has been a huge problem in the past and is the exact reason why alot of great baseball players did not play football..everyone sees the issue of having only 3or4 white kids on varsity when the population of the school is 60% white your playing with one hand tied behind your back..Morgan started making headway in this area and I'm sure Barbay will continue now that he is here.. [/quote] Being from Jasper, and having worked in the district for several years..... This is not a shock. [/quote] Unfortunately, I'm sure you're right...

[quote name="T-daddy" post="1212156" timestamp="1334772743"] [quote author=j_dog link=topic=99041.msg1211655#msg1211655 date=1334698545] I agree, Jasper is too small of a school for kids not to play more than one sport. [/quote] I agree I want my son to continue playing football so let me tell you a TRUE story..after morgan left coach mixon (baseball coach) continued going to the field house every morning early so the football players could work out. about 15 kids are now showing up and they were just sitting around talking..he asked them why they are not working out that they needed to get stronger faster ect..he asked who was a leader on the team one of our starting soph stood up and said he was the coach started telling him how he needed to lead and encourage everyone to work hard..this (superstar) began dropping F bombs and cussed him up and down including alot of racist comments (towards white's)..now first i give the coach alot of respect for not beating him down..[b]second its this thug mentality that keeps alot of great white athlete's playing baseball year around and out of football..[/b]I understand its hard for a football coach to kick a great player off the team but as a father do you really want your son around this type of atmosphere..[b]This has been a huge problem in the past and is the exact reason why alot of great baseball players did not play football..everyone sees the issue of having only 3or4 white kids on varsity when the population of the school is 60% white your playing with one hand tied behind your back..[/b]Morgan started making headway in this area and I'm sure Barbay will continue now that he is here.. [/quote] Really?  I mean REALLY? I happen to be a "white" guy who played high school AND college ball and this is the most ridiculous comment I have heard in a while.  "WHITE BOYS" don't skip out of football because of the shallow-minded reasons listed in your retarded comment.  Good things our "white boys" don't cuss or disrespect their elders.  You poor backwards soul...I think you give us White Folk a bad name!

Except for the 1st few congratulatory comments, this entire thread is pathetic.

[quote name="jaylen05" post="1195793" timestamp="1331486892"] June 9, 2012 $50 per camper Ages: 5 & up!!! Register online @ www.bp28sports.com Location: Home of the Great Broncos:Dayton, TX (Henderson Park) Where WINNING is A Tradition!!! Time: 8am to register & camp starts at 9am-4pm 12pm-1 will be lunch!!! Email Brandon Payne for more info or you can contact him at 713 292 6964. Quicker response would be by Text!! Sign up up your young football players to come have fun & learn more about the game of football. [email protected] "Our Youth Is the Future" [/quote] Stupid question...will there be pads / contact?  Will there be any focus on lineman positions offense or defense?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1170577" timestamp="1328209347"] [quote author=2% Milk link=topic=95298.msg1170086#msg1170086 date=1328155983] I was surprised that Lamar showed no interest in Brandtley Wilson from Kelly. He had outstanding numbers with 233 tackles, 133 solo tackles, and 10 sacks. I'm sure he is fine with Air Force but i just find it odd that they showed from what i know of no interest in him. [/quote] Exactly! One of the examples I am talking about. [/quote] Just because Lamar didn't sign them doesn't mean they didn't recruit or offer them...

[quote name="EAGLE07" post="1193718" timestamp="1331139574"] [quote author=jenks link=topic=96893.msg1189788#msg1189788 date=1330633629] Back to sports talk please!  :'( [/quote] You must be on the wrong thread. [color=red][b]Al T's---Winnie Floyd's--Beaumont Carrabba's-Beaumont[/b][/color][/quote] [size=14pt][b]YUP![/b][/size]

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1193475" timestamp="1331078448"] The Cedar Tree in Jasper is also very good. [/quote] They used to be real good years ago...kinda gone down hill in the last few years.

[quote name="Ex-Panther" post="1193535" timestamp="1331085141"] Is Sartin's in Beaumont still open? When i went back in 2001 they had all you can eat BBQ Crabs [/quote] They're still open...right off the freeway in Beaumont.

If you ever head to Jasper for a game or on the way to the lake, there's a little restaurant called Lone Star Buffet...Homemade Down Home Country/Soul/Cajun cooking.  Best homemade rolls on the planet!  Ate there last week...DANG!

[quote name="fullswing" post="1159302" timestamp="1326495075"] I understand that the STJFL is gonna a little bit smaller come next year. [b]Too sad that P.A. Memorial was voted out of the STJFL[/b]. I guess it wasn't enough for them not to participate in the play-offs. Get a whole year to see the talent and then decided that the competition was too tough. Well P.A. i hope you guy's find a good place to play. [/quote] Really? I didn't hear that. That's too bad.  They sure had some good athletes.

[quote name="OldBallCoach" post="1145468" timestamp="1323795778"] I truly hate that you had such a miserable experience here in Jasper “queenb”.  Yes we did charge $3 gate fee and sell basic concessions, but this was simply to cover the expenses of paying the referees.  The remaining money will all be donated to the Jasper Football Booster club.  The football program was generous enough to let us use their field (which they had to mow and paint for these two games).  I would not have been offended if I were asked to pay a few bucks to come and play at your stadium to cover expenses…if you have ever been involved in coordinating youth sports, you would know, there are WAY more expenses than people realize.  I think it is obvious when you look at our facilities, equipment, and uniforms…we are not running a money making youth football program here in Jasper.  As for the parents, I can assure you that there were unruly parents from BOTH sides.  This, unfortunately, is how some parents act everywhere you go.  I have coached football, baseball, and basketball all over southeast Texas and it is the same everywhere you go…a few loud mouths with filthy language are going to be there and you WILL hear what they have to say, like it or not.  You should know that you cannot observe their behavior as indicative of their town’s character…Heck, my wife had to listen to a small group of WOS parents spew “F” bombs and call the KIDS playing the game a variety of unspeakable things the entire game…but I am smart enough to know that they do not represent all of WOS fans. I cannot speak of the issues you had during the Senior game, but I can tell you as a coach, we had a GREAT time in the Junior game.  The kids really enjoyed playing the WOS Lil’ Mustangs and even though we were very disappointed in losing the game, our kids and the WOS kids shook hands and said “Good Game” afterwards, nothing else.  Just remember…these are KIDS and they just love to PLAY FOOTBALL!  My son even found a few kids he played against in baseball and visited for a while afterwards.  Coach Doobie and his coaches did a great job and I congratulate them on a hard fought victory. I really hope we can continue this game in the future.  It is fun playing another excellent 3A football program and giving all of our kids (Jasper and WOS) the opportunity to compete at a high level.  I hope this can develop into a FUN rivalry over the years …if the parents will just stay out of the way and let the KIDS PLAY FOOTBALL.…these two groups of kids are some GREAT PLAYERS and they will be playing against each other for YEARS to come… [/quote] Thanks for stepping up, coach.  Parents who have kids in football (or any sport where a lot of other parents show up) can't be so sensitive...and it gets even worse in Jr. High & High School. Regardless, if you can't toughen up a little, it's gonna be a long next 6 years for you.

[quote name="olc71749" post="1149140" timestamp="1324410030"] Thanks bud for all the info! [/quote] You're welcome. Hope your son does well.

[quote name="olc71749" post="1149011" timestamp="1324398646"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=91530.msg1148958#msg1148958 date=1324393774] [quote author=olc71749 link=topic=91530.msg1148472#msg1148472 date=1324310896] Hello gang I'm new to the youth forum, but i wanted to ask anyone if they know of a youth football trainer close to Dayton . Now that its the off season i would like to send my son to get some extra training. [/quote] How old is your son? [/quote]He is 11 ,I know he is still young, but he didnt get to sign up for basketball this year so I was thinking about keeping him occupied with fb during the off season. I have found quite a few youth trainers in houston but they want you to drive over to them ,,just looking for something close. [/quote] Eleven is not too young at all...I don't really know anyone in Dayton, but you may try the Varsity coaches office.  Sometimes coaches will moonlight in the off-season. Good luck...

[quote name="olc71749" post="1148472" timestamp="1324310896"] Hello gang I'm new to the youth forum, but i wanted to ask anyone if they know of a youth football trainer close to Dayton . Now that its the off season i would like to send my son to get some extra training. [/quote] How old is your son?