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[quote name="puddin tane" post="1078981" timestamp="1318263092"] ----the big test is gonna come when those  big wig initial 3 yr deals run out We've had beautiful weather, its been done up right, ...people are yakking about expanding the stadium...I'm hoping year 4 we average over 7,000 [/quote] EXACTLY!

[quote name="puddin tane" post="1078963" timestamp="1318262015"] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=87670.msg1078810#msg1078810 date=1318253302] Hanna starts at a fullback type position. Used more as a blocker and tight end. Rarely gets to carry it but is still oh the field quite a bit. [/quote] huh?  Help me out..I dont remember seeing him lined up in the backfield and I dont think he has an official rushing attempt at all?  Played alot of TE when stone hands Chavis was hurt, didnt play much Sat.  ( Did have a score called back on a fake field goal earlier this yr)---he's a TE [/quote] YEP!  TE where I say him playing.

[quote name="gpd78" post="1078967" timestamp="1318262174"] Lum-R gave up 46 to BMT-G and PNG-W gave up 30 with no points scored in the 3rd and 4th Qt Lum-R gave up 26 to PA and PNG-W gave up 19 with PA not even getting a 1st down in the 1st half. I think there worthy of the #5 spot [/quote] gpd78, you may be right on the money.  Like I said before, PNG W is under recognized. DaKing74 needs a reality check.  He has no real basis for his arguments, and he's going off of heresay and opinion more than facts.

[quote name="AJ25" post="1078944" timestamp="1318260725"] I'm going beyond just athletics... I'm talking about the school in general. Football will be far more supported than the arena football team with crappy uniforms, same goes for the semi-pro basketball team. I think the hockey team was run out of town because Ford Arena was charging too much for them to continue playing there because Ford Arena put BMT in debt. But college football will be supported if they maintain success. [/quote] I agree with you to a small point...but we need to support LU Football when they are not successful too!  Other schools do it, and that's how they keep a popularized program.  I LOVE LU FOOTBALL, but I don't think this area has the REAL desire to support anything other than High School FB.

[quote name="DaKing74" post="1078947" timestamp="1318260908"] qpd78  i think the real breakdown power is 1. Bmt g                                                           2. PA                                                           3. WO-S                                                           4 PNG G                                                           5. lum -w the reason i say PA really is number 2 because they have played WO-S PNG-G and PNG -W and lum w is not much better than red just better coach like someone said the game they lose too grey was decided by the zebra s one whole half they could run there legal formations.. and WO-S and P.A defense is lights out less than 60 points scored on both [/quote] PA has a stacked team...they don't even have a single win because they are on probation. They are not even a consideration (last place).  PNG G will beat WOS...your rankings are off.

Do you want to know what the REAL problem is?  We all need to look in our own backyard.  This area does not support local ANYTHING other than High School football.  We had a semi-pro basketball team that couldn't be beaten...no fan support.  We had the Padres minor league team, the Beaumont Golden Gators...no fan support.  LU always has an awesome baseball team...no fan support.  We had an Arena football team...no fan support.  Anyone remember the Hockey team (now I realize hockey is a stretch in a SE Texas town) but still, no fan support.  It is up to US!  Pouring money into it is not the only answer.  I would venture to say that quite a bit has been poured into LU football, but the Home Conference opener crowd was not even 70% capacity (and that's being generous).  Tradition and support start with US! Not fancy billboards and new facilities.  It's not just athletics either.  Look at Crockett Street.  All the businesses went "belly-up" and were taken over by another person.  Downtown Beaumont is still struggling for a resurgence...it may never happen. WE ARE THE ANSWER AND "WE [b][u]SUCK[/u][/b] AT SUPPORTING ANYTHING LOCAL!"

[quote name="Ochocinco" post="1078879" timestamp="1318257292"] Smh, People Lum R lost to #1 Bmt G, #4 Wos, and P.A is a top 4 team in this league. Who ever you are making your case for (Png W or others) will also lose to those same teams, maybe worse. Im not going to punish them for losing too 3 Top 4 teams. LUM R will beat every team outside the Top 5 and has by far, played the toughest schedule. And they still haven't played Png G yet. [/quote] I agree with you, and that's why I said this before: [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89596.msg1078847#msg1078847 date=1318255523] [quote author=DaKing74 link=topic=89596.msg1078829#msg1078829 date=1318254739] come on you have lum r number 5 after bmt beat them by 20 and Pa beat them 25 to 7...there 4 and 3 on 2 game losing streak [/quote] That's a good point.  I thought the same thing. [b] However, in Ocho's defense, Lum R has played WOS, PA & BMT G so far.  No other team has played that many top tier teams yet.  I think he's got it pretty close[/b].  We'll see.[/quote] I am not taking anything away from LUM R. They are a good group of kids.  I just haven't seen a couple of the others that are on the fringe, so I was trying to be fair.

[quote name="dogfather" post="1078863" timestamp="1318256231"] [quote author=Ochocinco link=topic=89596.msg1078776#msg1078776 date=1318250394] [quote author=DaKing74 link=topic=89596.msg1078773#msg1078773 date=1318249772] I would also like to see the new breakdown after WOS beats PNG-G [/quote]Pee-Wee 1. Bmt G (7-0) 2. Png G (7-0) 3. Lum W (7-0) 4. Wos (6-1) 5. Lum R (4-3) [/quote]In Ocho's deffense he has relations with red ........ ;D [/quote] Correction, his relations are with LUM White...but he stills calls it pretty fairly.  Like I said, his Top 5 is exactly how I see it too with the exception of a couple possibly being tied for 5th.

[quote name="dogfather" post="1078852" timestamp="1318255834"] [quote author=Ochocinco link=topic=89596.msg1078777#msg1078777 date=1318250803] [quote author=DaKing74 link=topic=89596.msg1078773#msg1078773 date=1318249772] I would also like to see the new breakdown after WOS beats PNG-G [/quote]Becareful with your choice of words. You don't wanna  write a check yo @$$ can't cash. If Wos beats Png I will rank them 3rd and PNG G 4th. If Png wins then I'll rank them #1 and Wos stays at 4. I think most would agree. [/quote]Ocho is a peewee ranking guru! With the exception of red ... PNG  This group is diff. front runners... Lum R      BMT      with out a doubt                    Png W LUM                                                Ned B    and these team are about equal WOS                                              Vidor W [/quote] Can't say I disagree with you.  Like I said, Ocho has a pretty good read on LUM R and they have a tough schedule, but LUM R, PNG W, NED B and VID W are all pretty close.

[quote name="Ochocinco" post="1078777" timestamp="1318250803"] [quote author=DaKing74 link=topic=89596.msg1078773#msg1078773 date=1318249772] I would also like to see the new breakdown after[b] WOS beats PNG-G[/b][/quote]Becareful with your choice of words. [b]You don't wanna  write a check yo @$$ can't cash[/b]. If Wos beats Png I will rank them 3rd and PNG G 4th. If Png wins then I'll rank them #1 and Wos stays at 4. I think most would agree. [/quote] PNG G is going to beat WOS. I have seen both play, and PNG G is just as physical and fast, plus they are a much more organized looking team than WOS. I hope WOS beats them and takes away their crown, but I don't see it happening.  Good luck WOS.

[quote name="DaKing74" post="1078829" timestamp="1318254739"] come on you have lum r number 5 after bmt beat them by 20 and Pa beat them 25 to 7...there 4 and 3 on 2 game losing streak [/quote] Tht's a good point.  I thought the same thing.  However, in Ocho's defense, Lum R has played WOS, PA & BMT G so far.  No other team has played that many top tier teams yet.  I think he's got it pretty close.  We'll see.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1078683" timestamp="1318216632"] [b]Weights are a must IMO. Weights improve strength, power, explosiveness, and helps to prevent injuries. Too many b-ball coaches under emphasize their value[/b]. The only time I believe they are not of value is on game day. Definitely messes up your shot. Would love to see Nederland bulk up a bit and push other teams around (for a change).  :) [/quote] Amen.

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1078721" timestamp="1318225104"] [quote author=ExTiger08 link=topic=89501.msg1077630#msg1077630 date=1318124075] shouldn't b no reason y we tigers should sweep the district... size and speed but sometimes the lack of coaching... [/quote] I think the Mustangs will ahve a say in that  ;D [/quote] Yep. They will say, "Man I wish we could have beaten those Tigers..."    ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1078465" timestamp="1318203294"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=89546.msg1078306#msg1078306 date=1318194623] beats sitting on the [b]couch in a walmart [/b]aggie shirt being a wannabe [/quote] Probably a "fouton"... I don't know if I have ever seen a couch in a WalMart. [/quote]

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="1078367" timestamp="1318196815"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=87670.msg1078099#msg1078099 date=1318176045] "running with the first team" is woodard-eze for "I'm going to play him very little" [/quote] That is just down right funny puddin!!!  I may start to like you!!!  ;) [/quote] I almost said the same thing...I just didn't want to admit it!

[quote name="puddin tane" post="1078306" timestamp="1318194623"] beats sitting on the couch in a walmart aggie shirt being a wannabe [/quote] I second that...

[quote name="Porkchop" post="1077979" timestamp="1318165401"] Big Upset Ocho, for real. I will break it down for you since all you can do is talk smack! Guess I should not be suprised since you do call yourself Ocho!!! If you show the numbers I think you realize its not an upset PNG W's teams they have played are 26 wins and and 16 losses. Ned B's teams they have played are 19 wins and 23 losses. To go even deeper PNG W stats are; Points allowed 70 & Points scored 100. Now Ned B has allowed 79 points & scored 130. If you really run the numbers PNG W should have won the game. I was not there but I heard they had the ball in the red zone 3 different times but gave up 3 fumbles to squash those drives. I hear Ned B only got in the red zone in OT when the game is only played in the red zone. In the end PNG W got the win and they did it with two of there kids playing sick with strep, Oh and one of them was the running back, Oh I guess you did not know that. Good luck to all the rest of the season. [/quote] Don't take offense,[b] it WAS an upset[/b].  NED B has been in the top 6 all season.  PNG w beat a good NED B team that almost beat LUM W (7-0).  Shows how good you guys are! (And how suspect LUM W may be)...

LHSALLZONE, I saw almost your entire game.  If it makes you feel better, I didn't see total domination by PA.  Yes, they won, but the things I noticed was this: 1. They are a big play team.  Not as consistent as BMT G, PNG G, LUM W (More comparable to WOS) 2. They have awesome size and decent skill. 3. The clock management was atrocious! Between the PA guy running the clock and the refs not noticing the mistake, you probably got robbed for about 2 or 3 minutes.  That would have helped quite a bit when time ran out on you when you were in scoring position. Pretty lopsided score, but you guys could have done better.  PA looked to be big and physical.  I think they deserved the win, but you guys could've gotten it closer. Win, yes...Domination...NO!

[quote name="LHSALLZONE" post="1078059" timestamp="1318173885"] ol smash beat me to it, but bmt -g is the most rounded team in my opinion. 3 of there running backs have the most speed that ive seen, not saying wos ,pa isnt fast because they are. wos def. to me is the best we faced,most team speed and they swarm the ball, but it still comes down to match ups, bmt to me be tuuuufffff to beat, hoping lum-w does it the last week, but png-g could win it all to, this is just my thoughts on the ? asked, no disrespect intended to anyone lol [/quote] I agree with you about WOS defense.  The only reason I picked PA over WOS is because they beat WOS.  Once again I will say that I expect to see PNG G and BMT G in the Superbowl.

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1077646" timestamp="1318125165"] BC won last year. Who has improved more since last year, the Tigers or the Cardinals? [/quote] Silsbee has definitely improved; however, they need to tighten up their "O" line.  It could go either way, but the Tigers will be my pick by 3.

That was not a fun game to watch...

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1078046" timestamp="1318172814"] Opinons?  I'll settle for their scores! [/quote] Lol. True dat!

[quote name="Ochocinco" post="1078028" timestamp="1318170559"] You have played Wos, Bmt G, and P.A. how will you rank them?? Png G biggest win so far has been against P.A. [/quote] I know this ranking request was for the "Red" coach, but I will throw in my thoughts after seeing all of these top tier teams play more than once: 1. BMT G 2. PA 3. WOS Even though BMT G has not played the higher caliber teams (LUM W, PNG G, PA, WOS) they seem very impressive.  I look forward to BMT G vs LUM W. This will be the first real test for both.  They have a much softer schedule than the other conference affords, so it should be the game that tells us how good both really are.

[quote name="plaball89" post="1077446" timestamp="1318112687"] PNG-W 7 Ned-B 6 in OT [/quote] Way to go PNG W.  Haven't seen y'all play yet, but must have something positive.  Ned B is a good team.

[quote name="puddin tane" post="1077392" timestamp="1318106942"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=87670.msg1077289#msg1077289 date=1318099281] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=87670.msg1077279#msg1077279 date=1318098849] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=87670.msg1077274#msg1077274 date=1318098729] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=87670.msg1077115#msg1077115 date=1318086191] [quote author=geezer link=topic=87670.msg1059624#msg1059624 date=1316316753] I wish him good fortune also, although is looks like Garret hurt is shoulder so had he stayed he probably would have the chance to prove the coaches early assesments were wrong. [/quote] Hanna starting in the backfield today...wish Cody had held his water.  He'd be getting that playing time he desired so much. [/quote] Where do you get that?  He was just running reps so if he was needed in the backfield he could be used. [/quote] Are you going to the game?  Look for #24. [/quote] I'll be there.  But answer the question.  How do you know that he is starting as RB? [/quote] he aint gonna be starting..just taking reps with the first team...last week they said harmon was taking reps with the first team [/quote] You were correct...bad info on my part.