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That 1 game changing player is what makes good teams top 20 material.Orangefield was a top 20 team in the past because they had a solid team and a very good crunch time player in Little.Look at last years playoff loss as an example.I am a huge SETEX basketball fan but I'm also a realist and from what I've seen this year I think it's a strech to say we have that many top 20 teams in the area.A true top 20 team should expect to be in the regional tournament and I don't know how many qualifiers we will have this year.The reason I like Kountze is simple,they are sound at every position,have a good inside presence and a couple of girls who can light you up on any given night.Plus they have a very good coach.

Spurger has a good shot but they got a real young club.They don't play football so they probably are at the top of their game while HD is still developing.It is extremely hard to beat HD at home so it will be interesting.

I didn't see you mention Swinney who was probably the most athletic player on the floor.Last years group played against this press every day plus 3 thrown in to make it interesting.If all else fails they would pass the ball over a pretty small lineup.Gotta like their chances pressing this group with McBee,Swinney and Nash on the ball,Sims in the middle and Andrews back deep.Not sure about the 40 times(not many 4.6 40's in Warren) but from 1 end of the basketball court to the other last years group would more than hold their own,I've seen them all run it LOTS.I will give this years group credit,they are improving every time I watch them and they are playing hard on the defensive end.

I haven't got to see them yet but I have seen the rest of the clubs in this district except Sabine Pass who they beat by 15 on a neutral floor.HD got a late start due to the football playoffs as did WH and Evadale.These 3 clubs probably will continue to improve over the next 2-3 weeks.The clubs that don't play football or did not make the playoffs are probably about to peak.I like the bobcats chances.The other 2 clubs who I think have a shot are Spurger and Sabine Pass.

It is essential but a very bad idea before basketball practice.Weight training should be done on different days or after your work is done on the court.

I've said this on many other threads.Coach Henry always has his clubs ready to play these kinds of games.He and the Bobcats should be the favorite to win that district.I still think Kountze and Anahuac split their regular season series and playoff for seeding at the end of the year.The Lions had Walker playing to far from the rim before he got hurt.When he gets back if they move him from the arc to about 12 ft in they will get noticeably better.They are down this year from the past years and probably won't make a deep run.The main reason is their size,the better ball control teams will beat them over the top and their half court game is not their strength.

I'd love to know what you think about Orangefield and Brabers Hill too... I didn't mean to leave Orangefield or BH out of my reply.My observation is more about the validity of the poll than the teams that are in it.I haven't seen O-field or BH play this year but by looking at the records and the strength of schedule I would have to say they probably won't be in the top 20 teams in the state.There are some very good clubs in all classifications when you go statewide.To be a legitimate top 20 club you have to have the 1 dominate game changing player to go to when you need to win the big games at crunch time.I'm just not sure these clubs possess that type player.Are these some of the better teams in SETEX?You bet they are.Are they top 20 teams in the entire state?Probably not,at least in my opinion.You said you wanted the board to liven up a little,this should do it ;)

No disrepect intended to any of the local clubs but I gotta question the validity of this pole.Looking at the strength of the clubs in past years and their rankings I would say Kountze probably is a top 20 team,other than that I think these folks are voting on reputation and hear say.Central has a good club as does Woodville and Evadale but probably not a top 20 club.I quess it's just opinions anyway until February.

LCM by a dozen. LCM-72 Dville-60

This question has 2 different answers.If you look at at top 10 teams statewide your 5-a clubs will just about always be stronger,simply because of the numbers.Locally it's a different animal.Year in and year out there are usually small school clubs around here that can compete with the West Brooks,Memorials and Centrals of the world.I gotta say this year the talent level seems to be down in just about every classification with the exception of Silsbee.I know it's definitely down on the small school side 1-a and 2-a.

I didn't mean you didn't have a chnce against HD.I just meant I haven't gotten a chance to see them this year.I think HD,Spurger and SP could very easily be the playoff teams.

Now that's a quote I can agree with.I don't have anything against the Sharks at all.In fact I think it's smart for them to play clubs like this because they won't see anyone this tough in district.My point was that if you score 16 points in the first half you probably aren't going to put yourself in a position to win against a good team.I think it's great the kids in SP are sticking up for each other and the club.After watching all the teams in this district except HD I gotta believe you have a great chance to make the playoffs.

The coach at Deweyville does a good job with what he has to work with.It's tough to keep your focus when the other club is just plain better than you are as they were on this night.The bright spot for Deweyville this year is that they are probably the 3rd best team in the district and could easily make the playoffs.Leave the coach alone,he is trying to do something here that will help him in a game he has a chance to win.

You scored 16 points in the first half and lost it in the 3rd ????

Warren played a pretty good defensive ballgame tonight.I don't know if their big enough to attack the rim other than Young.I think Andrews had a few more than 20 tonight.His shot wasn't falling early but I thought he had 5 -3's. He hit 12 free throws in a row down the stretch.I never did figure out why HI didn't foul someone else after he hit about 10 in a row.Overall a good win for the Warren kids,they look to be improving from the earlier games I saw them play this year.

They don't have the starters they had last year either,if I'm not mistaken all 3 of those clubs graduated all state and all regional players.That don't hurt if you just got 5 ;D ;D ;D

Spurger probably woke Goodrich up which isn't good news for the wildcats.Goodrich wins this one by 10.

Buna has a little size this year but Warren has been playing pretty good defense.I'll take the home team by 6. Warren-54 Buna-48

And then the alarm clock went off and ruined a good dream : : ::)Orangefield by a dozen ;) OF-62 SP-50

George is going to be a good ballplayer,maybe the best of the 3 Whittacres, but he isn't there yet.The get the ball to JT and let him shoot the 3 and kick it to Phillip if he's covered worked pretty well for the Pirates.I can't remember the last time they made it to the regional finals and I've been watching them since Doug Roberts and Jimmy Hicks played and that was a long time ago.This club is averaging 47 points a game ,which isn't bad,but let's not make them better than they are.They will be in the playoff hunt but I don't see a representative out of this district making a deep playoff run this year.

I think the last time HI beat Warren in a varsity baskeball game was in 2003-2004 at the Spurger tourney.Warren holds the edge in this series about 5-1 over the last 6 years.That being said HI has never played this group,these kids had never started a varsity game before this season.They are unpredictable so I'll say the game will be close.Usually the home court is worth a little but from what I'm hearing HI is improved so I'll go with Warren by 3. Warren-39 HI-36

They do have a ton of potential but that doesn't make them a better club.They may have a balanced offensive attack but not the refined skill on the block that Phillip developed as a senior or the long ball threat that JT brought to the table in crucial games.Give em time to develope before you expect them to be as good as the regional finalist.

I agree 100% about the Orange Leader,they support all the teams in Orange county better than any other sports reporters I've seen.Gotta agree with ya about the ranked teams also,there are some unranked clubs in SeTexas right now that would definitely give the ranked ones all they could handle.

After all the early season hype where is all the info on the Seahawks??When do they play in Pt.Arthur again and who will be the opponent?What's going on with the club and who are the statistical leaders on the team?I know expectations were high going in to the season so what's up?

EC has a solid club but I don't think they beat Kountze this year.I see them getting the second spot and Anahuac taking third.Kountze has a legitimate shot at going to the regional tournament this year.