Brubaker

So the question becomes, with the superior coaching at the Reservation, how does a guy that run a sub 4.5, not get the ball in his hands on offense? 

[quote name="FrodoNDN" post="1313378" timestamp="1351476173"] [quote author=Brubaker link=topic=105267.msg1313229#msg1313229 date=1351464442] The Pope could be looking at him, I've seen him play, he's not even in the same zip code of 4.37, that's laughable.  And to use the PNG coaches as a reference is a joke, all my grandkids are the cutest too.  Kid is fast, maybe 4.5ish, and yes he should be getting touches on offense, why does your head coach who knows more than Bill Walsh himself not have the ball in his hands at least 4-5 times a game??? [/quote]Ok, so the info comes from the coaches and most of the kids that were there when he did it. He has been timed more than 8 times at that speed. Is it a combine type 40 with the laser watches, no, but it ain't that far off. He does have some official times in the 100 that are faster than Ceaser from LCM. He is running track this year and is expected to go to State. He didn't run track last year because he wanted to focus on baseball. We will have to see. He has been consistently running 4.4 flat for awhile now. You said you have seen him, have you been there when he has run the 40? Or just on the football field. Did you see him against WOS on the 100 yard return. Nobody could catch him. He doesn't get alot kicked his way because most coaches have scouted him. The St. Louis Cardinals have contacted his dad so for a high school kid he must have something going. Watch him steal bases on the baseball field and then question his speed. He is getting alot of looks for baseball and not football because he is small. He has had some calls for football though. Many people here have asked why he is not on offense. He said it is because as a freshman he dropped alot of passes, but he's a senior now, I'd give him a try. [/quote] I'm not dissing the kid, I'm saying he's not sub 4.4, he's just not.  Thanks for the resume' though, he's a talent, but he's never run a sub 4.4 in his life, I can guarantee that. Hope to see him in the World Series in a couple of years playing with the Cardinals... Oh and by the way, I'd put him in a foot race tomorrow with Michael Shaw, you remember him, the kid that buckled him on that TD pass, and bet the house.

12gage, ain't nobody in the stands at this point, from what I can tell

What's the historical perspective of back to back undefeated district championships in SETX.  Dogs about to do it, just wondering where this puts them in relation to the WOS, Newton... etc dynasties of SETX.  Funny that not too long ago, everyone held the lack of a district championship over Neumann's head... now the guy hasn't lost in over 2 seasons and will win 2 straight.

On  another topic, I think Tony Brown from Ozen, does run a 4.37, if not better.  He is sick fast, and big.  He will be the next Earl Thomas from this area.  Hoping UT gets him, they could use a DB or 10.

The Pope could be looking at him, I've seen him play, he's not even in the same zip code of 4.37, that's laughable.  And to use the PNG coaches as a reference is a joke, all my grandkids are the cutest too.  Kid is fast, maybe 4.5ish, and yes he should be getting touches on offense, why does your head coach who knows more than Bill Walsh himself not have the ball in his hands at least 4-5 times a game???

You're gonna be puckered up in a couple of weeks Bronocofan, I can promise you that.

Read Neumann's comment at the end, that tells you everything you need to know.  We've been seeing Nederland win but play sloppy football, the worst thing you can do is peak too soon.  Last night was a dominating performance in what could have been a letdown game following the hype of MCM.  What you saw was the most complete performance of the season.  Nederland is just getting this thing going.

Interesting, someone was posting the 1975 PNG scores by game the year they won the state championship... and by no means am I putting nederland in the state championship.  But, it you look at their scores, throughout the year, you will see some similarities.  Wonder if the barber shop back then had folks bitchin cause they didn't blow people out big enough on their way to the crown?

LCM is EXTREMELY underrated.

[quote name="COOG8BRONCO" post="1309961" timestamp="1351220486"] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=105218.msg1309950#msg1309950 date=1351220041] [quote author=Brubaker link=topic=105218.msg1309945#msg1309945 date=1351219892] Wow, 204a and 194a gonna have some wars in the big school bracket, let's do a double header at Lamar??? everybody in? [/quote] 19-4A wins 3/4, maybe even a sweep. [/quote]Who you got in the Crosby vs LCM game? KP won their district last year and would be fighting for second place with Vidor in 20-4a. It's real over here and that was just an example. Crosby did what they had to do in  game where they played sloppy. Wouldn't beat Dayton, SC, or BH playing like that but it is what it is. [/quote] LCM is a BETTER football team than Crosby.  Played both of em and it's decidedly so. 

Central is not making the playoffs, LCM will have to do the work.  If they had a hard time with the twins, they'll have fun with Cezar.  Ned/Vidor will be tough as nails, whoever you got, come and get you some.

Wow, 204a and 194a gonna have some wars in the big school bracket, let's do a double header at Lamar??? everybody in?

PNG's freshman QB is one of the best I've seen at that age, that has nothing to do with coaching, plus you allowed 2 returns for TD's how is that coaching.  You may not have the best coaching, but you got flat out beat by PNG, give it a rest, you'll have another chance.

You spin it however it makes you feel good.

Shaw will be showcased a lot more as the playoffs arrive in my opinion.  He can take it to the house on any play that he touches the ball and against anybody.  That was PNG's best athlete he just buckled.

He's talking about when Ned sophs and PNG sophs were Freshman.  Nederland dismantled PNG's current sophomores in that game, much like this years PNG freshman dismantled Nederlands.  In my opinion, Nederland has the upper hand next year.  The following year when the current sophs are seniors, and the current Freshman are juniors, you'll have a coin flip as the PNG freshman will be strong contributors. The PNG / Nederland 8th graders are pretty even, with possibly a nod to PNG, but I think that CO/Central class will see a huge leap in overall ability when combined, Central really has some players. Nederland 7th grade gets the nod over PNG based on where they stand at this point and how games played out this year, but a lot could change since they are still so young.

Hardly Ram, reloading in Nederland, not Rebuilding.  We will compete for the district championship every year through the time period you're calling rebuilding.

Head to head among teams tied, if that doesn't decide it goes to point differential among tied teams with a + / - 18 point cap in any one game.

I don't think it was so much of how bad Nederland played as much as it was how good PNG was... especially that quarterback.  Nederland defense is charmin soft and PNG hit em in the mouth all night.  No doubt who the better team was.

[quote name="Razor" post="1302275" timestamp="1350433202"] Nederland 35, png 17 [/quote] Only way this is the final, is if Nederland gets out to a 28-0 lead midway through the 3rd qtr and PNG goes to work on the backups.  42-14... Same story with mine, just think we put a few more one em.

You're right, I'm sure none of the posters on this thread are dad's of underclassmen.

Just seems like a lot of folks tweakin their elbows pattin themselves on the back... I like to see stuff proven on the field before I go spoutin off that's all.  And by the way... Lumberton wins a lot in STJFL too.. sometimes the translation is lost, so forgive me for wanting to see the business on the varsity football field... like I am currently seeing this year's group do.  Where do you get 4 soph starters also.  I've got Seay and Barton, of which only Seay plays all the snaps, Barton is a package player, no discredit to him he is going to be a great one.  Johnson has played extensively against the slot/wing T offenses, but not against the conventional offenses.  Barton/Johnson will be great players in time, just don't add up to the 4 starters mentioned. 

Wish em all the best, and TRUE to the PROGRAM, they will keep their mouth shut and go to work, proving it on the field, not on a message board. 

I have a better idea, let's move this thread to the YOUTH FOOTBALL SECTION, they can hash it out between the STJFL posts.