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[quote name="Trocket" post="1225989" timestamp="1337972278"] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=91032.msg1225985#msg1225985 date=1337971340] [quote author=JohnSmith link=topic=91032.msg1225979#msg1225979 date=1337968204] [quote author=Razor link=topic=91032.msg1225943#msg1225943 date=1337957702] I was curious about this so I looked the playoff scores up from the last 10 years to see how the Golden Triangle 4A District has fared against the bunch west of the Trinity....the overall count in first round playoff games is a surprising 25-9 in favor of the Triangle teams...keep in mind that Dayton was in our district in 2006-07 and contributed wins to that total...The triangle teams have not had a losing record in this "series" since 2002 when they were 1-2 [/quote]So 6 out of 9 losses came from Dayton.  Come-on 19 4a you need to pick up the slack.  Mainly talking to Crosby, Humble and sc because we all know bh won't at least not in football. [/quote] Its a fact that 19-4A is a much tougher district now so beware 20-4A ;D [/quote]I smell a repeat, 20-4A=3 wins and 19-4A=1 (Dayton saves the sweep again  ;D ;D :o :o ??? ???) [/quote] nope, i think Dayton finally slips up this year(streaks can't last forever). 20-4A completes the sweep. But look on the bright side, BH wont even be in the playoffs this year.

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1225873" timestamp="1337917863"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=99073.msg1225752#msg1225752 date=1337904459] [quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=99073.msg1225748#msg1225748 date=1337904203] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=99073.msg1225740#msg1225740 date=1337903672] Love how this turned from the 20-4A district predictions thread to the png qb thread.  ::) Back to subject please. [/quote] [url=[Hidden Content]] Does this make you feel better?  Simulated game Ned vs Vidor. Ned Vidor Ozen PNG/Livingston Does anyone have a count down???? How many days to we kick off? [/quote] I love that website lol. But one problem. That doesn't have this year team so you can't get a real simulation of this year lol. BTW may i add that the game is at Boneyard this year.  8) [/quote] [b]For now, we can only live in the past....how many more  days do we have to wait????[/b] I can't wait til we get to travel to the boneyard...it will be a good one, for sure.  Let me say this, that will be a good measure for each program.  20 4 a is set for a classic season.  I do predict Ned on top; however, I know that injuries and obstacles can detour any team and 20 4A is NO cake walk.  No one should ever be underestimated in 20 4A  FOOTBALL except LCM (FootBall ONLY, baseball is a different story  and WHY in the heck can't they put those talented ball players on their football team  - that is another million dollar question everyone always wants to know about LCM....!!!!) ;) [/quote] 126 days until the District opener.  Nederland @ Vidor Sept 28th 7:30 p.m.

[quote name="Smoking Baby" post="1224852" timestamp="1337652740"] Just to clarify things, all 20-4A sucks.  19-4A sweep this year girls.......  Yeah, yeah, but one day i'll be right.  This is the first year!  ;D [/quote] you should be more concerned with getting to the playoffs this year considering your new additions! and 20-4A completes the sweep this year! 8)

[quote name="DOGS1988" post="1224682" timestamp="1337618634"] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=99735.msg1224538#msg1224538 date=1337566219] [quote author=DogsDLine link=topic=99735.msg1224527#msg1224527 date=1337565090] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=99735.msg1224493#msg1224493 date=1337558195] [quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=99735.msg1224492#msg1224492 date=1337557656] dustoff. I never said it was a dream.  I just said he can sleep well with all of the amazing football players that have been sent his way!!!!  I do look forward to playing Vidor first.  Let's take a challenge and bring the Doomsday D to test your offense.  Will be a good matchup!  Look forward and I am counting the days as well. Vidor will have a nice season but man, Neumann is counting his blessings and his unbelievable talent pool that is in Nederland this year!!!!!  Go Dogs and Doomsday D!!!! [/quote] Love your enthusiasm but you cant use Doomsday D. Dallas may get upset. ;D On a side note, and seriously, alot of talent is not always good. Especially if it creates rivalries within. With new players coming in, their is always the possibillity of conflict. I have fisrt hand seen a team that should have beaten everyone and failed to do so. Lots of INDIVIDUAL talent. Doubt this will be the case for Ned but it's something to consider. Looking forward to to opening district play with ya once again. p.s. BH SUX! [/quote] these guys have been playing with each other since the peewee football leagues. there is absolutely no possibillity of a "conflict" [/quote] i've been hearing talk of [color=red][b]transfers(potential starters)[/b][/color] coming in. and this is highschool, there is always the possibillity for conflict. [/quote] There is only one that I have heard of, if there are more, can you share your information please? [/quote] I have heard of the one mentioned here on the boards and a friend told me that he heard of another. initially i thought this was who he was talking about. maybe he is misinformed. never the less, anyone that has played ball and was the established starter one season and odds on favorite for the next, will naturally feel threatened by someone new coming in that plays their position and is supposed to be very good. once again, i'm not saying this is the case here.

[quote name="DOGS1988" post="1224710" timestamp="1337622271"] Look at the consistency of play-off runs by 20-4A teams for the past 20 years.  Respect is earned by that record.  It is so tiring to read the same type of responses on here year after year.  Show respect towards teams that have earned and displayed true player and coaching talent over SEVERAL years, respect will come for the teams that are still trying to prove they can make it to the playoffs two, three or even five years in a row. Several teams such as Nederland, PNG and Central have traveled a long hard road to get where we are in our program and we sure didn't achieve it in a season or two with only one or two classes with talented players.  I know I am ready to see Nederland move deeper into playoffs than just 3 rounds.  (We have been 3 rounds several years in the past) I truly believe that we are moving in the right direction this year, especially with our accomplishments from last year make for a lot to build from.  I also noticed that in the past 10 years or so of playoff runs, I have seen Central, LCM, Ozen and PNG fans(more than any other school) come out and suport us.  That is true respect shown.  A bunch of Nederland fans went and supported Vidor in Bi-District round when they played Dayton (I think 3 years ago).  That is more than I can say for the good supporting folks of Vidor, which I have NEVER seen at one of our playoff games (Curious to know if they do that to anyone else).  Lumberton falls short on supporting the area teams as well, so your not alone Vidor.  I will continue to support all of our 20-4A teams inspite what other fan bases say or do. Good luck to all and pray for all the players to have a injury free season. As far as predicting the outcome of 20-4A, have fun with it, but we all know when it comes down to it, NOBODY knows what will actually happen.  Of course I am pulling for my DOGS, I honestly believe they have a shot at having the best season this year than they have had in the entire Neuman era at Nederland. [/quote] No one is disrespecting Ned. I already stated I have respect for Ned and PNG and always will. And if you didn't see any Vidor fans at Lamar during round 1 when yall played GCM supporting the Bulldogs, then you weren't looking. I know I was their along with a bunch of others. Maybe you didn't notice because our colors are the same. But we were there! And i'm pretty sure there is some talk on the threads that prove we were there.

[quote name="biaplayer" post="1224562" timestamp="1337572200"] Seems like the only ones making excuses is vidor,  injuries hurt you in the run department, if I ain't mistaken you lost to both of us png and ned. I enjoyed watching y'all play what games I got to see, the defense over there in vidor was tough, they. Made good tackles in the open field and flew to the ball. I haven't seen anyone on here from png say that they were gonna win the title. Everyone knows ned has the target on their back. This paticular png team when they were young wasn't what we fans call spectacular, but I think they have matured and will benefit from bf s offensive scheme, the only thing that keeps me guessing is the defense. I am ready for Friday so I can see for myself! Would love to see some bodies flying to the ball rapping up and letting the wood fly! Soo ready for some football, soulja you gonna come??? Brenhamfan said he may come since the hill sent their coach into early retirement in baseball! Be interesting to get yalls input so I won't be biased in my opinions! [/quote] yep, we lost to both of you. both games were a pleasure to watch and you wont here me making excuses. yall made the plays when it counted and we didn't. but that was last year and IF history should repeat itself, i will be here to eat crow. however, it should be a great season, too close too call right now. but Ned has pretty much proclaimed themselves district champs with their BLACK DEATH DEFENSE. if i recall, it was their offense that ultimately beat us and PNG. and like I said, that was last year. I have and always will have respect for both schools but naturally talk smack. AND I EXPECT NOTHING LESS FROM YALL! BH still sux! ;D

just saw this(where have i been). glad to see Lee get what he deserves. Not an SD fan but isn't Hester still there. I loved watching him at LSU as well.

great news! 8)

[quote name="DogsDLine" post="1224527" timestamp="1337565090"] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=99735.msg1224493#msg1224493 date=1337558195] [quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=99735.msg1224492#msg1224492 date=1337557656] dustoff. I never said it was a dream.  I just said he can sleep well with all of the amazing football players that have been sent his way!!!!  I do look forward to playing Vidor first.  Let's take a challenge and bring the Doomsday D to test your offense.  Will be a good matchup!  Look forward and I am counting the days as well. Vidor will have a nice season but man, Neumann is counting his blessings and his unbelievable talent pool that is in Nederland this year!!!!!  Go Dogs and Doomsday D!!!! [/quote] Love your enthusiasm but you cant use Doomsday D. Dallas may get upset. ;D On a side note, and seriously, alot of talent is not always good. Especially if it creates rivalries within. With new players coming in, their is always the possibillity of conflict. I have fisrt hand seen a team that should have beaten everyone and failed to do so. Lots of INDIVIDUAL talent. Doubt this will be the case for Ned but it's something to consider. Looking forward to to opening district play with ya once again. p.s. BH SUX! [/quote] these guys have been playing with each other since the peewee football leagues. there is absolutely no possibillity of a "conflict" [/quote] i've been hearing talk of transfers(potential starters) coming in. and this is highschool, there is always the possibillity for conflict.

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="1224511" timestamp="1337564132"] First of all, if the 3 offenses are the same then you gotta look at how the teams are doing. If two are successful and one isn't, is it really the offensive scheme that's at fault. What about the other teams that run offenses similar to each other? It's more of a talent thing, the coach works with what he has plain and simple. Sometimes that even means making a drastic change in the offense to capitalize on the talents of certain players. Unfortunately Lumberton seems to have a hard time developing young talented players, losing them to other sports for the most part. What else would explain having one of the premier soccer teams in the area consistently while being middle of the road in other sports. If we had a larger student body to choose from like the bigger 4-A's and had a little less apathy towards sports in general (a huge number of students choose not to participate in extracurricular activities), Lumberton would always be in the mix. We just have to wait for the perfect storm of talents to come along, which they will as they've done recently. As far as the coach, he is an excellent individual who gets the best he can out of what he is presented with. I for one hope he stays in Lumberton for many years in order to actually get a tradition built up. Tradition builds champions, look at how well Nederland (Newman has been there how long?), PNG (talk about tradition overload, they believe they can therefore they can), Vidor (seems to be getting stronger and stronger thanks to having a long term coach). The rest of us tend to be flash fires, a good year or two here then out for awhile. By the way, this is my observation as a long time fan and alumni. I consider myself a huge fan of Lumberton and have had season football tickets for at least 20 years since moving back to Lumberton, I also always make it a point to make it to several of the other sports/school activities every year as well even though my child never went to Lumberton and is twelve years past high school anyway. To me the L-Train will be always the best team in the world win or lose! [/quote] good post and you are right. you have to give time for something to develop and take form. some are just too much in a hurry to win now. people with kids playing want to win now and if they don't, then it was the fault of the coaches. sad thing is, once their kid is out of school, they are no longer a fan(some). they don't understand that it takes time to build a program. and as far as possible talent comming in. i'd go as far to say this. if i worked for one of the refineries(or any local business) and was transfering to this area, obviously my choices of a home are vast. if i have a child that is an excellent athelete and has future potential(imo) or just wanted to be a part of a winning program, where do you think i am going to look to live?

[quote name="PNGFan" post="1224519" timestamp="1337564695"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=99073.msg1224484#msg1224484 date=1337556611] Good lord. If the PNG fans had there way they would just crown themselves state champs and let the rest of us play it out for second and down. I can't wait to see there excuses later on this season.  8) [/quote] Kinda like Vidor?? To listen to you guys Vidor won the state Championship last year. Didn't we beat you guys?? [/quote] Yes you did. And we got caught up in the moment. Can you blame us? You gotta admit though, we gave you a scare at the end.

[quote name="raidernaytion" post="1222844" timestamp="1337183751"] I guess coach c thought we would be headed into 3a after last year . I think that's why he installed the copycat offense . Don't get to complacent coach. We are still 4A so let's get back to the drawing board and get creative again. [/quote] so name an offense that will turn Lumberton around over night and put them in the mix.

[quote name="SKINS" post="1224499" timestamp="1337559361"] Putting this out there, saw some of BH's players at a party, they all know how bad they will suck next year to say the least. These Seniors had no hope for this fall. [/quote] if that is true then they have already lost.

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1224500" timestamp="1337559378"] [b] No one in Ned ever overlooks PNG[/b] All stats, all talent out the window.  That MCM game is all about heart.  I have watched games either one should have walked away with - go the other way. PNG is always a force to be reckoned with.  They have a few weakness on their V next year. Fact.  However, they will compensate as they always have done in the past.  Great fans, great tradition.  Ned has target on back next season. Rightfully so. Prediction -they will rise to the challenge, overcome obstacles and achieve greatness.  These kids stick together and embrace a challenge.  I know a great # of them and I see men in the making of character and champions.  Lots to look forward to in Nederland next fall.  I don't if anyone senses the 20 4 A season is one of those special years when everything will be a challenge and worth the fight.  Every so often, 20 4 A has a lot to look forward and I sense the anticipation rising, not only in Nederland but across the District. ;D [/quote] or any other team in district which is why I previously asked where all the talk of PN-G being underestimated came from.

[quote name="Jackthehammer" post="1224494" timestamp="1337558529"] If PNG fans are 1st in crowning Vidor is 2nd heck maybe even 1st in talking up there team [/quote] hmmm.....yep! but we do it different from yall. yall say this person is this and this person is that and well... WE just say that WE are gonna win.

anything to win a playoff game in 4-A. ;D ;D

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1224492" timestamp="1337557656"] dustoff. I never said it was a dream.  I just said he can sleep well with all of the amazing football players that have been sent his way!!!!  I do look forward to playing Vidor first.  Let's take a challenge and bring the Doomsday D to test your offense.  Will be a good matchup!  Look forward and I am counting the days as well. Vidor will have a nice season but man, Neumann is counting his blessings and his unbelievable talent pool that is in Nederland this year!!!!!  Go Dogs and Doomsday D!!!! [/quote] Love your enthusiasm but you cant use Doomsday D. Dallas may get upset. ;D On a side note, and seriously, alot of talent is not always good. Especially if it creates rivalries within. With new players coming in, their is always the possibillity of conflict. I have fisrt hand seen a team that should have beaten everyone and failed to do so. Lots of INDIVIDUAL talent. Doubt this will be the case for Ned but it's something to consider. Looking forward to to opening district play with ya once again. p.s. BH SUX!

[quote name="pngfan66" post="1224487" timestamp="1337557180"] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=99073.msg1224364#msg1224364 date=1337513846] [quote author=prepballfan link=topic=99073.msg1224214#msg1224214 date=1337454848] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=99073.msg1224166#msg1224166 date=1337447562] Just curious as to who it is that keeps underestimating PN-G? I mainly here this underestimation theory coming from PN-G fans themselves. [/quote] I am referring to the folks who has us in the botttom tier of district. Its a new season and I cant argue with their opinion just stating my own [/quote] I don't think the ones that have them in the bottom tier are underestimating them, but just saying others may be in a better position to get it done this season. But, we will soon find out come fall. I CAN'T WAIT. BTW, where is MCM this year? [/quote] PNG [/quote] Rack up anoher "L" for BIG BAD NED. ;D

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1224486" timestamp="1337556806"] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=99735.msg1224363#msg1224363 date=1337513219] [quote author=TheLand8 link=topic=99735.msg1224289#msg1224289 date=1337470589] [quote author=DogsDLine link=topic=99735.msg1224082#msg1224082 date=1337404949] [quote author=TheLand8 link=topic=99735.msg1224063#msg1224063 date=1337401144] I heard a kid from austin just transfer to ned..... any word on him?? [/quote] two words.. he's fast. like colton kimler fast. he has been getting looks at strong safety. but he will have to earn a spot just like anyone else. he is also a sophomore. [/quote] well you can't teach speed.. [/quote] and speed isn't everything... [/quote] it's raining Football players in Ned...oh my, Neumann has done the right rain dance.  This kid is good and what a group Neumann already has.  Neumann is sleeping good at night.  zzzz....."I have amazing starters returning and I have amazing back ups to amazing back ups."zzzz....."Defense is like no other, have amazing backups"  zzzz..."The kids love to hit, I see passion every play..."zzzzz...."95 days to football, 94 days,93 days, 92 days.... Counting the days until football, not sheep,  while he sleeps... [/quote] And when district starts, BAM! Dream over and the nightmare begins as the Bulldogs fall to 0-1 at the hands of Vidor. He'll be counting Pirates running into the endzone over that "black death defense" that they have so been called.

I'm not from 19-4A  and don't know all the teams as well as some and especially the new ones from 18-4A. So, i watched some films yesterday of some particular games of interest and based on defenseive and offensive shemes compared to like opponents, this is my opinion as of now. it is subject to change after the season begins and players not revealed come to light. 1)Dayton 2)Summer Creek 3)Kingwood Park t-4)Barbers Hill/Crosby

[quote name="prepballfan" post="1224214" timestamp="1337454848"] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=99073.msg1224166#msg1224166 date=1337447562] Just curious as to who it is that keeps underestimating PN-G? I mainly here this underestimation theory coming from PN-G fans themselves. [/quote] I am referring to the folks who has us in the botttom tier of district. Its a new season and I cant argue with their opinion just stating my own [/quote] I don't think the ones that have them in the bottom tier are underestimating them, but just saying others may be in a better position to get it done this season. But, we will soon find out come fall. I CAN'T WAIT. BTW, where is MCM this year?

[quote name="TheLand8" post="1224289" timestamp="1337470589"] [quote author=DogsDLine link=topic=99735.msg1224082#msg1224082 date=1337404949] [quote author=TheLand8 link=topic=99735.msg1224063#msg1224063 date=1337401144] I heard a kid from austin just transfer to ned..... any word on him?? [/quote] two words.. he's fast. like colton kimler fast. he has been getting looks at strong safety. but he will have to earn a spot just like anyone else. he is also a sophomore. [/quote] well you can't teach speed.. [/quote] and speed isn't everything...

Good Morning everyone. Just wanted to say being at work on Sunday sux just as bad as bh in the playoffs. However, congrats to your baseball team! 8)

[quote name="WR84" post="1224249" timestamp="1337464339"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=99073.msg1224109#msg1224109 date=1337434707] [quote author=WR84 link=topic=99073.msg1224008#msg1224008 date=1337392597] I guess Me and my Jaguars have to go out there and prove ourselves this year. We will prove all those Nay-Sayers wrong. And as far as Central and Mitchell Being a one man show..... We will show all of you otherwise. Sincerly, The Central Jaguar Football TEAM! [/quote] Looking forward to it.  8) [/quote] As am I. Just get ready to see many points on the scoreboard from us. [/quote] just be sure to show up for your crow when it don't work out for you. 8)

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1224111" timestamp="1337435127"] Okay back to the subject. BH and Dayton still suck! Get your brooms ready 20-4A.  8) [/quote] 8) 8) 8)