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[quote name="badndn" post="1228591" timestamp="1338909546"] I have faith in Lunhow. His draft history is outstanding. I have no reason to doubt him at this point. I guess the question is which would you rather have in 5 years? A very good 22 year old deffensive SS who hits around .300 and 25+ HRs or possibly a very good deffensive 3B who hits .300 and 35+HRs (if he fills out) or A #1 starter that goes every 5th day. I would rather take a flyer on an everyday guy myself. Because we all know that the MLB draft is a crapshoot. [/quote] Well lets say Correa becomes what people think he will, which player do you think will actually stay with the Astros? The early 20s SS who draws comparisons to A-Rod, or the #1 pitcher who grew up in Houston and who's favorite team is the Astros. Fact is that Correa becomes what he is projected to be, he will probably not be with the Astros when he hits his prime. Appel has a much higher chance of staying in Houston for a long time.

[quote name="badndn" post="1228586" timestamp="1338908913"] [quote author=PhatMack19 link=topic=100371.msg1228575#msg1228575 date=1338907721] [quote author=badndn link=topic=100371.msg1228536#msg1228536 date=1338901874] [quote author=PhatMack19 link=topic=100371.msg1228507#msg1228507 date=1338857234] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100371.msg1228506#msg1228506 date=1338856852] [Hidden Content] [/quote] [b]This is what bothers me about this pick.  The Astros need help immediately and he seems to be many years away[/b].  [/quote] Really? Immediate help for what? You really think one college kid is going to make a 40 win impact in one season? One of the reasons Appel fell like he did is because he is not a top of the rotation pitcher. Appel struggled at times at Stanford. This is why this draft is so difficult. There is no bonnifide #1 or even #2 and no sure fire can't miss prospects. Every thing I have read on Correa projects a quick riser through the system with a potential MLB date of 2014 which would mean he will have just turned 20 years old. My personal oppinion is that the Stros should work the trade deadlines for more prooven (in the MiLB) young pitching and stick to drafting the best available athletes in the draft. Stephen Strassburg doesn't come along every year and even he has had his issues. [/quote] They have more than 1 pick in this draft.  If they can get 3 or 4 guys that are close, then they can make up 40 games with the young team they have together now.  I hope as much as anyone that this guy pans out, but I have just read a lot that says he is way too risky.  This may all be a moot point anyways with the move to the AL next year.  The Stros may be taking their lumps for years to come anyways. [/quote] The MLB Draft is not like the NFL Draft. The players picked in the MLB draft will have no imidiate impact on there teams. Most will not be in the MLB until 2016, 2015 at the earliest and a few in 2014. You might have two or three who get called up in 2013, but I would be shocked if any of this years draft get 2013 call ups. Info on Appel, "The problem is that hitters seem to square up Appel's stuff more than they should given its quality and velocity, likely the result of an arm action that's so clean that it lacks deception; he also needs to show he can work down in the zone on a consistent basis rather than leaving all three pitches up in the zone" This is the guy that was tabbed as the top pitching prospect that would be MLB ready quickest?? Looks to me like he is at best 2 years away and even then may be no better than a #2 starter. Not what I want out of the #1 pick in the draft and looks to me like the guys that spend their entire life scouting these guys agreed cause he dropped down to 8th (which is worth a shot on a future #2). [/quote] What are you talking about? Every player in the drafts has problems. The problems Appel had were just much smaller than other players. Appel is definitely projected to be a #1 type guy. Correa on the other had grades a 20 on current hitting ablity and a 30 on current power ability. " Extremely raw hitting ability needs to develop for the rest of his offensive game to be relevant. Very young and inexperienced with a huge gap between present ability and future potential". Correa is a project, Appel would've been a better pick.

[quote name="badndn" post="1228536" timestamp="1338901874"] [quote author=PhatMack19 link=topic=100371.msg1228507#msg1228507 date=1338857234] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100371.msg1228506#msg1228506 date=1338856852] [Hidden Content] [/quote] [b]This is what bothers me about this pick.  The Astros need help immediately and he seems to be many years away[/b].  [/quote] Really? Immediate help for what? You really think one college kid is going to make a 40 win impact in one season? One of the reasons Appel fell like he did is because he is not a top of the rotation pitcher. Appel struggled at times at Stanford. This is why this draft is so difficult. There is no bonnifide #1 or even #2 and no sure fire can't miss prospects. Every thing I have read on Correa projects a quick riser through the system with a potential MLB date of 2014 which would mean he will have just turned 20 years old. My personal oppinion is that the Stros should work the trade deadlines for more prooven (in the MiLB) young pitching and stick to drafting the best available athletes in the draft. Stephen Strassburg doesn't come along every year and even he has had his issues. [/quote] Actually you are wrong about Appel. He was considered the best collegiate pitcher by a wide margin. [Hidden Content] He is the only pitcher in this draft that projects to have 3 60 or better pitches, and he has the highest command and control projections of any  pitcher in this draft. Appel is as close to a front of the rotation guy as your going to find in most drafts. He was clearly the most talented and safest pick. The only reason Appel dropped is because Scott Boras is his agent and most teams weren't sure if he was going to sign for slot money. Correa was picked because he had upside and was willing to sign for under slot money. Buxton and Correa had the biggest upside of the draft and that's what people get caught up in, but you know everyone said Tim Beckham was going to be the next A-Rod when he came out 5 years ago and we all know how that worked out. Bottoms line is the Astros can not afford to miss on first round picks especially when they have the #1 pick. That is why they should've taken the safe pick in Appel who you know is going to be future #1 type of pitcher instea of taking the superstar or bust type player. I just hope Correa doesn't become then next in a long line of projected high school superstars that never pan out.

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[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1228507" timestamp="1338857234"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100371.msg1228506#msg1228506 date=1338856852] [Hidden Content] [/quote] This is what bothers me about this pick.  The Astros need help immediately and he seems to be many years away.  [b]Relative Risk[/b]: High. Extremely raw hitting ability needs to develop for the rest of his offensive game to be relevant. Very young and inexperienced with a huge gap between present ability and future potential. [/quote] Exactly! High School players are too big a risk for the Astros to take this early. Appel was as close to a sure front of the rotation guy as you can get. New owner, new GM, same old Astros :'(

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Astros take Carlos Correa a ss from Puerto Rico. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="Ex-Panther" post="1228301" timestamp="1338739032"] [quote author=LP2012 link=topic=100264.msg1226680#msg1226680 date=1338248868] [quote author=Mr.Scofield link=topic=100264.msg1226650#msg1226650 date=1338233236] His contract was renewed? & for how long? [/quote] I believe he has one year left in his contract. Rumor around town is if he performs well this season then it will be renewed. However, this is small town talk so I would not place to much credit on this. With that being said, I fully support Coach Deel and think he is a good coach and a great guy who really cares for the players. [/quote]Liberty is loaded and stacked this year, The expectations are real high this season. It's been a while since Liberty had a highly anticipated season. I think Liberty will win District go deep into the playoffs, after that Deel will get a bonus and contract extended for 6 years watch and see.. quote me please >:( >:( >:( [/quote] ::) ::) Weren't expectations high last year too? Didn't yall return something like 17 starters last year? How did that work out?

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1228223" timestamp="1338688393"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100160.msg1228200#msg1228200 date=1338666952] There are two reasons Collins is on that list. 1 Is that he is fast 2 is that he has scholarship offers from Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, TCU, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St. ESPN even puts him as a 4 star recruit, and has him as the 25 best CB in the country. I think he has earned his spot on that list Montana Q on the other hand doesn't even have a profile on any of the major scouting sites and he doesn't have any scholarship offers that I know of. [/quote] Well i can't really argue with this ff. I can only argue what i saw and from my point of view Montana is a better player than Collins. But that's just my opinion. Maybe if someone were to send some highlight reels of montana out and get him some attention i wouldn't be the only one thinking so. And i would argue against the not being able to make your own profile on some of those recruiting websites. I know a few kids who have done so. Montana just isn't one of them. [/quote] You can create your own profile on recruiting websites, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the scouting sites like scout, rivals, and espn.

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1228210" timestamp="1338676718"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100160.msg1228200#msg1228200 date=1338666952] There are two reasons Collins is on that list. 1 Is that he is fast 2 is that he has scholarship offers from Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, TCU, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St. ESPN even puts him as a 4 star recruit, and has him as the 25 best CB in the country. I think he has earned his spot on that list Montana Q on the other hand doesn't even have a profile on any of the major scouting sites and he doesn't have any scholarship offers that I know of. [/quote] Couldn't have put it any better!  +1 [/quote] Thank you 8) ;D

[quote name="Krispy Kreme" post="1228213" timestamp="1338681338"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100160.msg1228200#msg1228200 date=1338666952] There are two reasons Collins is on that list. 1 Is that he is fast 2 is that he has scholarship offers from Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, TCU, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St. ESPN even puts him as a 4 star recruit, and has him as the 25 best CB in the country. I think he has earned his spot on that list Montana Q on the other hand doesn't even have a profile on any of the major scouting sites and he doesn't have any scholarship offers that I know of. [/quote] Yall got a good point.... The truth is, "My two cents", the reason Quirante is not on these list is he does not try to be on them.... He does not set up a profile or still to my knowledge, has not sent out his highlights to people yet...haha thats pretty relevant... He does not entertain scouts or coaches like some of these others do.... It is not people underestimating or demeaning his abilities. He just does not solicit his talent like others do... Once he decides to do so he will get recognized...nothing to worry about, im sure he is not the only elite one left off the list... Some people dont need to be on the list to know that they are still elite haha [/quote] You don't make your own profile. The website makes it and evaluates the player's talent based on information from scouts and college coaches.

Day 2 [u] LSU Regional [/u] Oregon st 1 LSU 7 ULM 6 Belmont 3 Belmont eliminated [u] North Carolina Regional[/u] North Carolina 4 St. John's 5 ECU 10 Cornell 6 Cornell eliminated [u] Virginia Regional[/u] App St. 5 Oklahoma 4 Virginia 9 Army 1 [u] Texas A&M Regional[/u] TCU 28 Dayton 12 Dayton eliminated Texas A&M 3 Mississippi 6 [u] South Carolina Regional[/u] Clemson 4 South Carolina 5 F/12 Coastal Carolina 11 Manhattan 1 Manhattan eliminated [u] Miami Regional[/u] Missouri St 12 Miami 2  Miami eliminated :o UCF 9 Stony Brook 8 [u] Oregon Regional[/u] Austin Peay 1 Indiana St. 0 Indiana St. Eliminated Cal St Fullerton 5 Oregon 7 [u] Florida Regional[/u] College of Charleston 8 Bethune Cookman 2 Bethune eliminated Florida 6 Georgia Tech 2 [u] Purdue Regional[/u] Kentucky 8 Valparaiso 1 Valparaiso eliminated Purdue 3 Kent State 7  [u] Rice Regional[/u] Sam Houston 4 Prairie View A&M 2 Prairie View eliminated Arkansas 1 Rice 0 [u] UCLA Regional[/u] San Diego 2 Creighton 8 San Diego eliminated UCLA 7 New Mexico 1 [u] Stanford Regional[/u] Fresno St 8 Michigan St 2 Michigan St. eliminated Stanford 5 Pepperdine 4 [u] NC State Regional[/u] UNC Wilmington 13 Sacred Heart 4 Sacred Heart eliminated NC State 8 Vandy 9 [u] Florida St Regional[/u] Mississippi St 8 UAB 1 UAB eliminated Florida St 8 Samford 1 [u] Arizona Regional[/u] New Mexico St. 2 Missouri 6 New Mexico St eliminated Arizona 16 Louisville 4 [u] Baylor Regional[/u] Baylor 11 UT Arlington 6 UT Arlington eliminated Dallas Baptist 11 Oral Roberts 8

There are two reasons Collins is on that list. 1 Is that he is fast 2 is that he has scholarship offers from Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, TCU, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St. ESPN even puts him as a 4 star recruit, and has him as the 25 best CB in the country. I think he has earned his spot on that list Montana Q on the other hand doesn't even have a profile on any of the major scouting sites and he doesn't have any scholarship offers that I know of.

[quote name="king" post="1228165" timestamp="1338646672"] Is this 1 and done first round? [/quote] No. The regionals are double elimination.

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1228146" timestamp="1338612045"] Kent State 7 Kentucky 6      [b]went 21 innings[/b] Wow!  That can't be good for your pitching staff in a 4 team tourney. [/quote] You got that right. Each team used 5 pitchers with 4 throwing 3+ innings.

Oral Roberts 4 Baylor 2 Kent State 7 Kentucky 6 went 21 innings LSU 4 ULM 1 Oregon st 2 Belmont 1 North Carolina 7 Cornell 4 ECU 11 St Johns 3 A&M 4 Dayton 1 Mississippi 6 TCU 2 South Carolina 7 Manhattan 0 Clemson 11 Coastal carolina 3 UCF 2 Missouri St 1 Oregon 6 Austin Peay 5 Cal St Fullerton 9 Indiana st 5 Florida 4 Bethune cookman 0 Florida pitcher throws a no-no Georgia Tech 8 College of Charleston 4 Rice 3 Prairie View A&M 2 UCLA 3 Creighton 0 New Mexico 4 San Diego 0 Stanford 9 Fresno St 1 Pepperdine 6 Michigan st 4 NC State 16 Sacred Heart 5 Vandy 8 UNC Wilmington 2 Florida st 2 UAB 1 Samford 5 Mississippi st 0 Louisville 3 New Mexico st 2 Dallas Baptist 10 UT Arlington 0 Stony Brook 10 Miami 2 Arizona 15 Missouri 3 Purdue 7 Valparaiso 2

[quote name="lp4life" post="1227402" timestamp="1338427571"] Liberty will make noise! anyone can win any given night! this liberty team will be best this town has seen in awhile. A much worse liberty team took down the almighty falcons just 3 seasons ago. [/quote] Congrats yall beat Huffman once in the last 4 years!!!! Even with that loss Huffman has beat liberty by an average of 38-13 since we moved back down.

[quote name="JJsDAD" post="1226926" timestamp="1338317753"] My bad I guess BC will win state next year and be as good as Robinson was this year while they ride one great arm all the way because what the rest of the team does doesn't matter. [/quote] Yes, because Hollingsworth has all 28 of thier wins ::)

[quote name="I_Can_Do_It_ALL!" post="1226892" timestamp="1338314074"] Next step beng WOS in the first round, but I am sure y'all will get them this year.... Esepcially with all the D-1 players you have... [/quote] If they make it to the playoffs. Cleveland still has a good chance to beat them out for the third spot again this year.

[quote name="JJsDAD" post="1226875" timestamp="1338312552"] Bottom line is robinson's # 1 beat our #1 who didn't get the job done in the last two games and we choked and they didn't. We should have started Guidry he has been the best pitcher of the two through the playoffs. Would not have mattered if we sous have played three out of five we would have lost. I remember people saying when we went to Austin two years in a row. Any coach could take a team with that much talent to Austin well in my opinion this team had as much if not more than those two teams. So I guess that theory was shot to heck Our #1 didn't get the job done the last two games? Guidry has out pitched him in the playoffs? Yes Guidry has thrown well and deserves a lot of credit he is A great pitcher and young man as well. Check out the stats, Lemoine threw a no-no against Hargrave, only 3 hits against Huffman (5 runs, errors) and had 7 Ks, 3 walks and only 5 hits against him when he was pulled against the #1 team. Should he have stayed in? Guess we will never know. But we won and lost as a team all year, and mistakes were made but to say anyone choked is going a little bit to far. [/quote] First you do know that Hargrave and Huffman are the same teams right? and yes Guidry has out performed Lemoine in the playoffs. Against Huffman lemoine went 1.2 innings and gave up 4 hits, 5runs, 3ER, 2BB and had 1k,  Guidry went 5.1 gave up 0 hits, 0 runs 6BB and had 9ks Against Rockdale Guidry went 7 innings and gave up 6 hits, 0 runs, 0BB, and had 9ks, Lemoine went 5 innings gave up 0 hits, 0 runs, 3BB, and had 8ks. Against Robinson Lemoine went 4.1 innings gave up 7 hits, 5 runs, 3ER,3BB and had 7ks, Guidry went 1.2 innings gave up 1 hit, 1 run, 0ER, 0BB, and had 3ks. Combined in the playoffs Lemoine went 11 innings gave up 11 hits, 10 runs, 6 ER, 8BB,, and had 16ks with an era of 3.81. Guidry went 14 innings gave up 7 hits, 1 run, 0 ER, 6 BB, and had 21ks with an era 0. I think its pretty clear who was better in the playoffs.

[quote name="VNUPE" post="1226821" timestamp="1338305205"] [quote author=The Old Ball Coach link=topic=99637.msg1226798#msg1226798 date=1338302585] Yall really think WOS could hang with the 5a schools. HA! What was the score last year with Orangefield? what was the score last year with Hampshire Fannet? And you think you could hang with PAM or West brook.  this is funnny [/quote] You are comparing WOS to Orangefield and "Hampshire" Fannett?? Dude.....are you serious??? [/quote] No he is saying wos barley beat Orangefield and HF last year, so they wont be able to hang with teams like pam.

[Hidden Content] This is a cool site, it provides links to 47 different mock drafts. The site also say 64% of the drafts project the Astros to take Mark Appel.

[quote name="Rake1" post="1226687" timestamp="1338252244"] I find it hilarious that you continue to make my points for me. BC had a clear enough advantage that the other team only wanted 1 game. If a team is good enough they are not going to take the chance of losing to an inferior opponent in a 1 gamer because we all know anything can happen. As a matter of fact Robinson wanted a 3 game series with China Spring and lost the flip so I guess your line of thinking may be wrong. You choose a 1 game if you can't win a series, I don't know how else to explain it to you and there aren't any emoticons for this situation so I guess you may never get it. I do agree with you that Robinson has a great shot at going back to Austin. I never said they were not a complete team, just not as complete as BC IMHO. Great season BC and good luck to Robinson. Rake1 [/quote] Actually you've said they one dimensional, a one trick pony, and not a complete team. Also if anyone has an advantage pitching its Robinson. Robinson has the clear advantage with the #1s BC might have a slight advantage on #2s( that's a big maybe considering Robinson's top 2 are  both ranked as top 25 players and niether BC pitcher is) and after looking at the stats Robinson has the Advantage on #3s. BC's #3 has thrown all of 15 innings while Robinson's #3 has thrown close to 50 and just threw a 1 hitter vs Bullard. When was the last time BC's #3 even took the mound? And going back to last year all of the Robinson pitchers have better stats than thier counter parts as well.  As for why Robinson wanted a 3 gamer (if they actually did) its probably because they already beat CS twice. In that series they know they are clearly the better team. In the BC aeries it's not as clear(although I believe Robinson to be better) what is clear is that Hollingsworth is going to dominate the other team, and when you have an ace in the hole like that why wouldn't you use it? You're right that the better team will choose the 3 game series with they are playing an inferior team, but what does the coach do if he feels the teams are equal? In that situation I believe most coaches would put the season on the back of Hollingsworth.

[quote name="Rake1" post="1226670" timestamp="1338243937"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100237.msg1226663#msg1226663 date=1338239331] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=100237.msg1226658#msg1226658 date=1338236633] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100237.msg1226604#msg1226604 date=1338216476] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=100237.msg1226578#msg1226578 date=1338195058] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100237.msg1226573#msg1226573 date=1338177396] [quote author=gtsports98 link=topic=100237.msg1226543#msg1226543 date=1338169237]   We should all petition the UIL about one game series!  This team was too good to be put out because of one inning. [/quote] Why do you assume BC would win in a 3 game series? Robinson is the #1 team in the state. The odds were in Robinson's favor to advance either way. [/quote] No scientific explanation here and no way to prove the point but most folks who follow 3A baseball would lean towards BC having a deeper/better staff than Robinson and in a 3 game series it's usually ([i]not all the time[/i]) the better team that wins. For example look at the Robinson vs Bullard series, it was all Robinson could do to get out of that round in a 3 gamer and Bullard's pitching staff isn't even close to BC's. If the odds "were in Robinson's favor" as you stated above why did they opt for a 1 game against BC like the [color=blue][b]Falcons[/b][/color] did? Because they knew, just like [color=blue][b]Huffman[/b][/color] did, that they couldn't beat BC 2 out of 3. The fact that Robinson had just thrown a no hitter and a 1 hitter in the Bullard series and still flipped BC for a 1 game says it all and that is "we want no part of BC in a 3 game series". Regardless of which team you were rooting for the saddest thing about the whole issue is that all the baseball fans who had been waiting for these two teams to meet up were deprived of watching #1 vs #2 slug it out for 3 games. That would have been awesome. BC had a great year for sure and has nothing to be ashamed of. Rake1 [/quote] No. If I was Robinson and had probably the [color=blue][b]best pitcher in the state[/b][/color] on my team I would flip for a 1 gamer every time. It has nothing to do with being scared of BC, they are just making the safe pick. Why risk a 3 game series when you can send a pitcher out there it is going to win a vast majority of time. The only reason the bullard series went 3 games is because of errors. Hollingsworth threw a no hitter in the 1st game and they still lost. Robinson pitching staff is pretty dang good they threw a no hitter and a 1 hitter in the 3rd round of the playoffs, maybe BC might be a bit deeper pitching wise, but not by much. Don't get me wrong BC is a great team and I listened to that game routing for them to win, but I believe Robinson is better. I think Robinson would of won the series regardless of it it was 1 game or 3 games. Btw BC fans, if every playoff series was a 1 gamer then BC would probably still be playing right now. Bullard would of advanced over Robinson and I think everyone would take BC over Bullard. So maybe yall should petition the state to make all the playoffs 1 gamers ::). [/quote] I love it when other people prove my point for me! Thanks very much! Robinson may have the best pitcher in the state but not the best team, hence the reason for flipping for 1 gamers. Oh and for your information in the no hitter against Bullard the Robinson squad only had 1 hit themselves so using the error excuse doesn't fly. Also lets not forget about the 3 batters Robinson hit during the no hitter as well. Sounds more like a "one trick pony" and not a complete team if you subscribe to that line of thinking which more times than not spells trouble at the state tournament. Seen it a hundred times, 1 big pitcher wins the semi final and then the next guy in line can't get it done against team that relies on the ENTIRE team. Rake1 [/quote] How did I prove your point? Lol so now I guess if you have 1 great pitcher it means your not a complete team. Fact is any team that has Hollingsworth on thier team would choose a 1 gamer. Thats not because your not a complete team or they are scared ::), its because when you have a pitcher that dominate you ride him till you can't anymore. Trust me no team gets to 28-2 if they're not a complete team. And your  right Bullard did 1 hit Robinson( I guess those Bullard pitchers are better that you thought ;)). I wasn't trying to use the errors as an excuse I was just saying they lost after thier ace threw a no hitter and were able to come back and win against a 23 win team in the 3rd of the playoffs. That's not something you do unless you are a complete team. Btw Robinson went 31-6 and, they brought back 7 starters including all 3 pitchers and it looks like they could finish with better record this year. But yeah your right they are definitely a one trick pony ::) [/quote] Love the use of the emoticons! Incredibly effective at getting the point across. Now back to the debate. "One trick pony" or "one dimensional" it's all the same thing in my opinion. Ride the "one" pitcher you have and hope for help in the finals. When you get to Austin the best TEAM wins for a reason. Who knows? Maybe the teams that face off in the finals will both be in the same boat, out of pitching, and it becomes a summer league game with the score of 14-12. It's very simple, a deeper more complete team plays 3 games. Period. Now as for the Bullard pitchers you missed this one as well but at this point that doesn't surprise me. Bullard didn't throw their #1 in the first game, he threw in the 2nd one. Then it was "johnny wholestaff" in the 3rd when they got destroyed. As for the 3 pitchers Robinson brought back compared to BC's trio (that means 3, sorry for the big word, I know they hurt your head) we saw the #1's go head to head. We also saw Robinson struggle with BC's #2 just like Huffman did. (oh did I just say that!) And to compare Robinson's #3 to BC's definitely goes in favor of BC. There's no doubt Robinson will stack up a big record and I will be the first to congratulate them if they do indeed win it all. I will also be one who believes that the path to Austin was decided more by the flip of a coin than by actions on the field. Rake1 [/quote] Actually I knew Bullards ace didn't throw the first game and just adds credence to my point about Bullards pitching staff thier #2 pitcher did better than any bc pitcher against Robinson. I dont much about Bullards #1, but the coach obviously believes he is better than the #2 so I would say that is a pretty good pitching staff considering thier top 2 pitchers allowed as many runs against robinson in 2 games as BC did in 1. Now obviously they aren't as deep as BC but they are better than you give them credit for. Now I'm going to try and say this again. Just because Robinson chooses to ride hollingsworth as far as they can doesn't mean that they are one dimensional. Robinson has 3  starting pitchers that have already made one state championship run, how many does BC have? Your comments about the more complete team always going for a 3 game series is simply inaccurate. Think about it this way Robinson's #2 and #3 pitchers are pretty close if not equal to BC' #2 and #3, there is not a clear advantage one way or the other, but Robinson has a clear advantage on #1 pitchers. So if your the coach and you know that your #1 is probably the most dominate pitcher in the state and you know that your #2 and 3 guys dont have a clear advantage over the other teams what are you going to do? The answer any decent coach would make is to go with the guy who you know is going to dominate the other team(which Hollingsworth did) and not rely on the unknown outcomes of the other pitching.match ups. I find it hilarious that Robinson is about to make back to back trips to Austin yet you feel they aren't a complete team.

[quote name="Rake1" post="1226658" timestamp="1338236633"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100237.msg1226604#msg1226604 date=1338216476] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=100237.msg1226578#msg1226578 date=1338195058] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100237.msg1226573#msg1226573 date=1338177396] [quote author=gtsports98 link=topic=100237.msg1226543#msg1226543 date=1338169237]   We should all petition the UIL about one game series!  This team was too good to be put out because of one inning. [/quote] Why do you assume BC would win in a 3 game series? Robinson is the #1 team in the state. The odds were in Robinson's favor to advance either way. [/quote] No scientific explanation here and no way to prove the point but most folks who follow 3A baseball would lean towards BC having a deeper/better staff than Robinson and in a 3 game series it's usually ([i]not all the time[/i]) the better team that wins. For example look at the Robinson vs Bullard series, it was all Robinson could do to get out of that round in a 3 gamer and Bullard's pitching staff isn't even close to BC's. If the odds "were in Robinson's favor" as you stated above why did they opt for a 1 game against BC like the [color=blue][b]Falcons[/b][/color] did? Because they knew, just like [color=blue][b]Huffman[/b][/color] did, that they couldn't beat BC 2 out of 3. The fact that Robinson had just thrown a no hitter and a 1 hitter in the Bullard series and still flipped BC for a 1 game says it all and that is "we want no part of BC in a 3 game series". Regardless of which team you were rooting for the saddest thing about the whole issue is that all the baseball fans who had been waiting for these two teams to meet up were deprived of watching #1 vs #2 slug it out for 3 games. That would have been awesome. BC had a great year for sure and has nothing to be ashamed of. Rake1 [/quote] No. If I was Robinson and had probably the [color=blue][b]best pitcher in the state[/b][/color] on my team I would flip for a 1 gamer every time. It has nothing to do with being scared of BC, they are just making the safe pick. Why risk a 3 game series when you can send a pitcher out there it is going to win a vast majority of time. The only reason the bullard series went 3 games is because of errors. Hollingsworth threw a no hitter in the 1st game and they still lost. Robinson pitching staff is pretty dang good they threw a no hitter and a 1 hitter in the 3rd round of the playoffs, maybe BC might be a bit deeper pitching wise, but not by much. Don't get me wrong BC is a great team and I listened to that game routing for them to win, but I believe Robinson is better. I think Robinson would of won the series regardless of it it was 1 game or 3 games. Btw BC fans, if every playoff series was a 1 gamer then BC would probably still be playing right now. Bullard would of advanced over Robinson and I think everyone would take BC over Bullard. So maybe yall should petition the state to make all the playoffs 1 gamers ::). [/quote] I love it when other people prove my point for me! Thanks very much! Robinson may have the best pitcher in the state but not the best team, hence the reason for flipping for 1 gamers. Oh and for your information in the no hitter against Bullard the Robinson squad only had 1 hit themselves so using the error excuse doesn't fly. Also lets not forget about the 3 batters Robinson hit during the no hitter as well. Sounds more like a "one trick pony" and not a complete team if you subscribe to that line of thinking which more times than not spells trouble at the state tournament. Seen it a hundred times, 1 big pitcher wins the semi final and then the next guy in line can't get it done against team that relies on the ENTIRE team. Rake1 [/quote] How did I prove your point? Lol so now I guess if you have 1 great pitcher it means your not a complete team. Fact is any team that has Hollingsworth on thier team would choose a 1 gamer. Thats not because your not a complete team or they are scared ::), its because when you have a pitcher that dominate you ride him till you can't anymore. Trust me no team gets to 28-2 if they're not a complete team. And your  right Bullard did 1 hit Robinson( I guess those Bullard pitchers are better that you thought ;)). I wasn't trying to use the errors as an excuse I was just saying they lost after thier ace threw a no hitter and were able to come back and win against a 23 win team in the 3rd of the playoffs. That's not something you do unless you are a complete team. Btw Robinson went 31-6 and, they brought back 7 starters including all 3 pitchers and it looks like they could finish with better record this year. But yeah your right they are definitely a one trick pony ::)