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[quote name="Ex-Panther" post="1193491" timestamp="1331080754"] [quote author=89falcon link=topic=95361.msg1193473#msg1193473 date=1331078328] [quote author=Ex-Panther link=topic=95361.msg1193346#msg1193346 date=1331065600] [quote author=Cowboys1981 link=topic=95361.msg1193205#msg1193205 date=1331053641] Dont let this became a dayton thread. [/quote]lmao, but Liberty is returning good players hopefully they will make the playoffs, and compete for a District Title??? 8) 8) 8) [/quote] As proven last year when Liberty returned "all the great players". Liberty is still Liberty. [/quote] @89Falcon what is that suppose to mean? Huffman only beat us twice out of proably 20 times in school history. Huffman wasn't even all that good last year. From what I'm hearing we changed up or defense against yall last year, and was  trying to run our best player at Tailback instead of the slot receiver. So coaching has alot to do wtih the panthers being 9-1 last year instead of 7-3 [/quote] Ok first off we beat yall 3 times all in the last 4 years 8). This isnt the same Huffman it was 10 years ago. Huffman is miles ahead if liberty right now. You can blame your losses on coaching all you want, but you could've had Vince Lombardi as your coach last year and Huffman still would've beat you, because Huffman is the overall better team with bettet players. Oh and I consider 9-3 with a trip to the second round of the playoffs a pretty decent year. When was the last time liberty won a playoff game?

[quote name="EAGLE07" post="1193325" timestamp="1331063740"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=62870.msg1189304#msg1189304 date=1330572598] Huffman Jeff Schmidt '08 transfered from wharton jc to East Central University Kyle Meadows '08 transfered from wharton jc to South west Oklahoma State Tommy Henk '09 Angelina jc, Sedalia Bombers Frontier League Blaine Hashagen '10 North Central Texas College, Tyler jc Tyler West '11 San Jac Brandon Villeanue '11 San Jac Cole Deberry '11 Angelina JC Dustin Cook '12 University of Houston Austin Listi '12 Dallas Baptist [/quote] Tommy Henk is at Lamar, juco transfer from Angelina. The Sedelia Bombers are a summer collegiate league team that Henk played for in the summer. They are in the M.I.N.K. league. (Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas ) [/quote] You are correct. I was misinformed >:(

[quote name="Critter" post="1192151" timestamp="1330893803"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=97086.msg1192142#msg1192142 date=1330893191] [quote author=beechnut link=topic=97086.msg1192132#msg1192132 date=1330890519] I wish Huffman would have played BC and Silsbee in the preseason bc only makes you better. [/quote] Huffman typically only plays 4a and 5a teams before district, however they will play 4th ranked sweeny on Monday. [/quote] BC and Silsbee are better than a lot of those 4a and 5a teams that Huffman is playing...IMO [/quote] Never said they weren't, but Huffman has played some good teams. New Caney won 26 games last year, St Thomas is very good, klien Forrest was .500 in probably the most difficult district in the state, and GCM. Its not like Huffman is loading up on cupcakes.

[quote name="beechnut" post="1192132" timestamp="1330890519"] I wish Huffman would have played BC and Silsbee in the preseason bc only makes you better. [/quote] Huffman typically only plays 4a and 5a teams before district, however they will play 4th ranked sweeny on Monday.

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1192073" timestamp="1330878909"] 1.BARBERS HILL (7-5) 2.PNG (8-2) 3.GOOSE CREEK  (4-2) 4.LIVINGSTON LIONS (8-1) 5.LCM (8-4) [/quote] Huffman just beat GCM and are 6-2 only losses are to St. Thomas and Oak Ridge.

Huffman beat GCM in the championship game 6-4.

Huffman beat HYCA 17-5.

[quote name="octfeb" post="1190235" timestamp="1330694191"] Dayton plays again this morning at 10 A.M. ;D [/quote] Against Huffman 8)

Huffman beat Houston Davis 8-3.

[quote name="jenks" post="1189673" timestamp="1330628984"] [quote author=Gladtobehere link=topic=96894.msg1189551#msg1189551 date=1330619597] [quote author=jenks link=topic=96894.msg1189452#msg1189452 date=1330611759] [quote author=Gladtobehere link=topic=96894.msg1189051#msg1189051 date=1330548822] [quote author=jenks link=topic=96894.msg1189030#msg1189030 date=1330547904] HF HJ BC OF WOS Silsbee [/quote] I don't think the object of the thread was just to list all the teams that make up 21-3A.... ;D [/quote] No it was to rank them on how they will finish. I am glad you figured that out. [/quote] Then you do realize you are posting on the baseball thread and not jacks or marbles....lol [/quote] Yes, the only two that could go either way is WOS/Silsbee. HF is really strong. What is really scary is all their starting pitchers so far this year are not even seniors (with the excepton of wendling who has been injured). So I see them possibly finishing 1st for several years to come. These kids playing now have grown up with ford park complex in their back yard and you can see the training is really starting to pay off. That Hicks player who started at Varisity last year as a freshman is lighting it up this year. Had a walk off grand slam the other night against buna. Baseball at HF is strong. [/quote] BC has first wrapped up. They are ranked like 2nd in the state and have 3 D1 players. The best HF or anyone else in the district can hope for is 2nd.

[quote name="LP6" post="1189406" timestamp="1330610451"] [quote author=Ex-Panther link=topic=95266.msg1189170#msg1189170 date=1330560320] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=95266.msg1188923#msg1188923 date=1330542756] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=95266.msg1188714#msg1188714 date=1330529046] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=95266.msg1188645#msg1188645 date=1330525170] [quote author=TexasMinuteman link=topic=95266.msg1186928#msg1186928 date=1330379021] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=95266.msg1186922#msg1186922 date=1330378465] [quote author=goodtimes link=topic=95266.msg1186802#msg1186802 date=1330369244] I'm hear Coach Slack has been sited at Liberty ISD alot, is that a sign? [/quote] Deel was approved 7-0 by the board and will continue to be the HC in Liberty.  Whether that is good or bad, time will tell. [/quote]The 'Board' has nothing to do with and does not vote on whether or not the AD/HC stays or goes.This decision sits entirely in the Superintendants hands until his contract is up and I believe he still has another year in his contract.When his contract is up, then the board  will 'vote'.   If Slack has been seen around campus it may be because his wife is the head volleyball/softball coach there. [/quote] Personally I think we should fire Deel and hire Texasminuteman as our new head coach maybe then we will be able to come within 100 points of the all mighty Huffman Falcons. [/quote] Doubt it. Yall need more than a new coach ;) [/quote] Yeah, maybe fire Orr and hire ex-panther as our new OC, that might be the icing on the cake to put us in the same ball park as the Falcons. [/quote]you never know what the future may bring to good old Liberty,TX [/quote] I see a bright future. Liberty getting back on track sending Huffman back to 4A with a big red L, as they rack up 2 wins and 8 losses in a 4A district for the next few season while Liberty continues to get better, eventually dayton slows down and our athletes come back, then who knows... [/quote] Don't worry you will have atleast 4 more years of domination by Huffman before they move up. Splendora will probably go to 4a before Huffman does seeing as they are currently the largest school in the districts. If we do move up to 4a you can be sure that Huffman would have more wins there then Liberty would, because after all Huffman is an overall better athletic program than liberty.

Huffman Jeff Schmidt '08 transfered from wharton jc to East Central University Kyle Meadows '08 transfered from wharton jc to South west Oklahoma State Tommy Henk '09 Angelina jc, Sedalia Bombers Frontier League Blaine Hashagen '10 North Central Texas College, Tyler jc Tyler West '11 San Jac Brandon Villeanue '11 San Jac Cole Deberry '11 Angelina JC Dustin Cook '12 University of Houston Austin Listi '12 Dallas Baptist

[quote name="bullwinkle" post="1189085" timestamp="1330551142"] If pitch count was not that big of a deal than would one of the top arm specialist in the world reccommend LL to start limiting pitches in a game? [/quote] LL is different. The arm of a 12 year old is not mature enough or strong enough to throw 100+ pitches.

[quote name="baseball25" post="1189011" timestamp="1330546867"] lol lol, I already said I wouldn't care if a pitcher threw that many in a big game!! but its feb right now and there isn't a big game to make your pitcher throw that many pitches this early thats what I am trying to say, if he lets the pitcher throw that many pitches now he is going to abuse that kid and he for one could careless about the kid [/quote] It was just a general statement. It wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

[quote name="AlwaysStriveAlwaysProsper" post="1188982" timestamp="1330545807"] but the the Rip Its are porrely made because i have already witnessed one of them breaking in person after the 10th or 11th time to swing it. [/quote] I know alot of people who speak very highly of the rip it prototype 1, however I believe that bat has since been banned in the NCAA. I don't know anyting about the prototype 2.

[quote name="baseball25" post="1188877" timestamp="1330538215"] its ok to throw that many in a playoff game or mid district time, but its not ok if you do it 3 or 4 times during the season, because its going to take a toll on your arm sooner or later, here is a good article [Hidden Content] [/quote] Quote from the article " More pitchers are on the disabled list today than ever before. It's a paradox: The less they throw, the more often they get hurt." So pitchers are throwing less than ever before, but they are getting hurt more. Hmm maybe they shouldn't be relying on pitch counts.

[quote name="LP6" post="1188923" timestamp="1330542756"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=95266.msg1188714#msg1188714 date=1330529046] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=95266.msg1188645#msg1188645 date=1330525170] [quote author=TexasMinuteman link=topic=95266.msg1186928#msg1186928 date=1330379021] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=95266.msg1186922#msg1186922 date=1330378465] [quote author=goodtimes link=topic=95266.msg1186802#msg1186802 date=1330369244] I'm hear Coach Slack has been sited at Liberty ISD alot, is that a sign? [/quote] Deel was approved 7-0 by the board and will continue to be the HC in Liberty.  Whether that is good or bad, time will tell. [/quote]The 'Board' has nothing to do with and does not vote on whether or not the AD/HC stays or goes.This decision sits entirely in the Superintendants hands until his contract is up and I believe he still has another year in his contract.When his contract is up, then the board  will 'vote'.   If Slack has been seen around campus it may be because his wife is the head volleyball/softball coach there. [/quote] Personally I think we should fire Deel and hire Texasminuteman as our new head coach maybe then we will be able to come within 100 points of the all mighty Huffman Falcons. [/quote] Doubt it. Yall need more than a new coach ;) [/quote] Yeah, maybe fire Orr and hire ex-panther as our new OC, that might be the icing on the cake to put us in the same ball park as the Falcons. [/quote] Who knows yall got alot of ground to make up ;D

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1188794" timestamp="1330533394"] THANK GOD WE NOW HAVE A HOME  ;D ;D ;D ;D I would like to kick it of by saying DAYTON SUCKS and they are not allowed in our dollar store because they are toothless and have bad plastic surgery ;) [/quote] Wait, there are people in Dayton that can afford plastic surgery ???  ;D

[quote name="Water Boy 21" post="1188519" timestamp="1330496044"] buna will be fine next year in 3a and the Franklin kid will be in the top 3 best players in the dist. he might even be the best one in the dist as a fresh andd he is better than any kid on the hf team right now too [/quote] So are you saying that this freshman would be the best player in 21-3a right now? Because I think Bridge City's 3 D1 signees might have something to say about that.

[quote name="baseball25" post="1188778" timestamp="1330532797"] to many pitches this early in the season, I been around the best ball you can play and been there and done it!! its to many pitches this early on in the season its just that  simple!!! [/quote] So have I ;) alot has changed in how we understand the arm since you played. In 2004 a prominent doctor described labrum tears as "baseball's most gruesome injury", now there is near a 70% chance you will make a full recovery. Again all I said is that pitch count alone will not prevent injury. I don't disagree that it was probably a bad decision to throw the pitcher that much. However if the pitcher has played year round, is a good athlete,  maintained good mechanics throughout the game, and properly rest and recovers he will probably be fine.

[quote name="baseball25" post="1188737" timestamp="1330530824"] Trey Hearne on that list was one of the best pitchers in the nation that yr and he has already had 2 surgeys, and I know about 14 more players on that list that has had surgey!! [/quote] Just because they had surgery dosen't mean its beacuse they threw too many ptiches in one game. Pitching is an unnatural act as I'm sure you know, some players will get injured and need surgery regardless of what precautions you take. There are alot of things that could of contributed to thier injuries like not recovering properly or not getting enough rest, bad mechanics, and whole number of other things. Some injuries such as Tommy john come on sudden sometimes on one pitch, then other injures such as labrum tears can be built over years of throwing. It would be difficult to find anybody who has played baseball for a significant amount of time that doesn't have atleast some labrum damage. I myself just had a tear of the gleniod labrum that was repaired in december. The doctors said that the injury was built up over years of overhead activity. All I said is that pitch count totals for 1 game are overrated. over pitching a pitcher over the course of entire season is definitely going to lead to arm problems.

[quote name="baseball25" post="1188721" timestamp="1330529644"] [Hidden Content] I am 24th on that list and you know what my arm kills me everyday from the wear and tear from that 2005 yr and I was never the same in 2006, plus I need to get my elbow cleaned out because I hurt every single day!!! [/quote] Sorry to hear that  you were injured, but there are probably many people on that list that never were. Tim Linsecum is one example. All I ever said is that pitch count alone is overrated as an injury prevention tool. A pitcher could get tired at 80 pitches and could be at risk for an injury while another pitcher could go into the 120s+ and be fine. Then there are still others that will get injured regardless of what you do. The pitch count is just a number, there are alot more important things to pay attention to.

[quote name="LP6" post="1188645" timestamp="1330525170"] [quote author=TexasMinuteman link=topic=95266.msg1186928#msg1186928 date=1330379021] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=95266.msg1186922#msg1186922 date=1330378465] [quote author=goodtimes link=topic=95266.msg1186802#msg1186802 date=1330369244] I'm hear Coach Slack has been sited at Liberty ISD alot, is that a sign? [/quote] Deel was approved 7-0 by the board and will continue to be the HC in Liberty.  Whether that is good or bad, time will tell. [/quote]The 'Board' has nothing to do with and does not vote on whether or not the AD/HC stays or goes.This decision sits entirely in the Superintendants hands until his contract is up and I believe he still has another year in his contract.When his contract is up, then the board  will 'vote'.   If Slack has been seen around campus it may be because his wife is the head volleyball/softball coach there. [/quote] Personally I think we should fire Deel and hire Texasminuteman as our new head coach maybe then we will be able to come within 100 points of the all mighty Huffman Falcons. [/quote] Doubt it. Yall need more than a new coach ;)

Here is a list of pitch count numbers from last years D1 colloege baseball season. [Hidden Content] I know its college, but as you can see pitchers routinely cross over the 100 pitches mark. A pitcher crossed the 120 mark 610 times last year, with some getting into the 180s.

[quote name="baseball25" post="1188428" timestamp="1330488132"] Falcon thats way to many pitches this early in season!! its that simple [/quote] Never said it wasn't. I just think people focus on the number of pitches way too much. Pitch count can be usefull,, but it shouldn't be the only thing determining when a pitcher should come out. Some coaches will put a limit at 100, but in reality 100 is just a number. Some pitchers will tire before they get to 100 and some are capable of going much further.