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[quote name="vhs" post="1165963" timestamp="1327530302"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94762.msg1165599#msg1165599 date=1327467095] [quote author=vhs link=topic=94762.msg1165213#msg1165213 date=1327445412] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94762.msg1165163#msg1165163 date=1327439608] This isn't just for Vidor fans to comment on. In all the years you have watched Vidor fans or not who, IYO, was the top 3 running backs. Mine would be: Brad Croak Theron Rynols (sp) and Brentyn Clark [/quote] These are three good RBs from the last 10 yrs but we have had a lot of strong running backs in the history of Pirate football... Rick Culbert was awesome and I heard Hagler was a beast. [/quote] Well in all honesty i wasn't a follower of the pirates in those days. And Culbert was a QB. Obainion was the RB that year. And i didn't even know dr tim hagler was a RB at vidor. Shows just much how i know.  8) [/quote] Culbert played  RB/ WR/ and a little QB his SR yr...Andy Haequist (check spelling) got the majority of the snaps at QB...However Culbert led the team in Passing yds/ Rushing yds/ Receiving yds his Sr year and was Offensive MVP of the district.... He also played a heck of a DB on the other side of the ball.  His Jr. Year his was primarily RB with Browning playing QB [/quote] Oh. Well i only started following the Pirates closely his senior year.

[quote name="2% Milk" post="1165605" timestamp="1327467308"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94743.msg1164932#msg1164932 date=1327408482] [quote author=2% Milk link=topic=94743.msg1164926#msg1164926 date=1327389726] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=94743.msg1164895#msg1164895 date=1327373106] [size=36pt][font=impact][b]The Might Vidor Pirate Offensive line, of course!!! [/b] [/font] [/size] Undersized, under rated, lion hearted. Lead the district in rushing and second in team offense. Three rounds deep in the playoffs!! Dumb question. [/quote]Everything that you stated about vidors line could be said about Kelly's to. Not saying vidor didn't have a better line than Kelly I'm just saying it seems like both teams offensive lines were very alike. Under rated, undersized, and fought till the end every play. Both teams also had a potent rushing attack it seemed like anyone with decent speed could have gone in the Kelly backfield and picked up significant yards. [/quote] Here's a stat i bet you can't say about the Kelly line. In every single one of Vidor's game the offensive line was out matches by atleast 50 pounds per player and 2 games we were outmatched 100 pounds per player. That means each player had atleast 50 or 100 pounds less than the guy in front of them and yet they were still dominating. Here [/quote]could not find rosters with weight listed. but i can GUARANTEE  you through eye observation Kelly was outweighed by just as much if not more. [/quote] No offense man but i doubt that you can guarantee that because looks can be deceiving.

[quote name="HillGuy" post="1165601" timestamp="1327467157"] [quote author=Bobcat05 link=topic=94814.msg1165502#msg1165502 date=1327461634] A lot closer than I thought. [/quote] Be careful, dim doesnt like it when someone says that  ;)  sounds like a district rivalry game where anything can happen.  Congrats to Ozen on the win and Central for playing hard. [/quote] IMO the central girls should make the rankings with that game. What yall think?

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1165617" timestamp="1327467853"] [quote author=vhs link=topic=94762.msg1165213#msg1165213 date=1327445412] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94762.msg1165163#msg1165163 date=1327439608] This isn't just for Vidor fans to comment on. In all the years you have watched Vidor fans or not who, IYO, was the top 3 running backs. Mine would be: Brad Croak Theron Rynols (sp) and Brentyn Clark [/quote] These are three good RBs from the last 10 yrs but we have had a lot of strong running backs in the history of Pirate football... Rick Culbert was awesome and [b]I heard Hagler was a beast.[/b] [/quote] That is an understatement. [/quote] He's my flipping dentist. Never saw it lol. Wish someone had some old footage of him playing. I'd love to see it.

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="1165644" timestamp="1327472329"] They have to keep him eligible! That will be the hardest part. [/quote] Yeah more than likely. Grade trouble is a silent killer of athletes. Sad but true.

He looks real good.

[quote name="vhs" post="1165213" timestamp="1327445412"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94762.msg1165163#msg1165163 date=1327439608] This isn't just for Vidor fans to comment on. In all the years you have watched Vidor fans or not who, IYO, was the top 3 running backs. Mine would be: Brad Croak Theron Rynols (sp) and Brentyn Clark [/quote] These are three good RBs from the last 10 yrs but we have had a lot of strong running backs in the history of Pirate football... Rick Culbert was awesome and I heard Hagler was a beast. [/quote] Well in all honesty i wasn't a follower of the pirates in those days. And Culbert was a QB. Obainion was the RB that year. And i didn't even know dr tim hagler was a RB at vidor. Shows just much how i know.  8)

This isn't just for Vidor fans to comment on. In all the years you have watched Vidor fans or not who, IYO, was the top 3 running backs. Mine would be: Brad Croak Theron Rynols (sp) and Brentyn Clark

[quote name="hitman009" post="1165087" timestamp="1327430183"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=94086.msg1165010#msg1165010 date=1327420291] [quote author=slappy link=topic=94086.msg1165006#msg1165006 date=1327419673] AggiesAreWe, really you broadcast high school football and you spout like some jackleg off the street.[b] crosby held vidor 0 completions [/b]which had been big plays for them last four opponents. only two plays over 10 or 15 yards. both of which were huge in thier montgomery win. and one of their lowest offensive yardage nights in last 8 games. c'mon man get a clue. special teams and turnovers were devastating in that game. [/quote] "Crosby [b]held[/b] Vidor to 0 completions". That's pretty funny statement considering Vidor only attempted 2 passes the whole game!!! Vidor pounded Crosby for over 300 yards rushing. Like I said, Crosby was the more talented team, but Vidor was better coached and the better team. 42-20 pretty much speaks for itself. [/quote]"Pounded"???  Vidor only had 302 total yards of Offense. Crosby had 412.  The game came down to turnovers (2), Penalties (11 for 100 yards) and the type of D. Crosby's D did not match up very well vs Vidor's O (Wing T vs 3-3 stack). the match up would say your going to get 3-4 yards a carry, and in playoffs it all about match ups. Vidor did a great job... Grinding the ball down the field, keeping the Coog D on the field, controling the ball, and making the O make desperate decisions.. My hats are still off to Vidor but saying they were more talented at almost ANY position is crazy. [/quote] Actually what it came down to was your offense couldn't handle pressure and score when they needed to and other spoiled players committing 2 personal fouls in a row because he knew they were gonna lose. Oh and we were the better team. Talented or not. But that's just my opinion.

[quote name="Dayton Transplant" post="1164947" timestamp="1327412077"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=85614.msg1161092#msg1161092 date=1326698593] [quote author=liltex link=topic=85614.msg1149204#msg1149204 date=1324417285] My hunch says Dayton will get moved back to 20-4a or whatever that dist # becomes ;) [/quote] We can only hope.  8) [/quote] Doubt that.  1 loss in how many years?  Be careful what you hope for. Rebuilding is over, all is in place for next several years. [/quote] 8)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1164944" timestamp="1327411562"] I think Nederland is heading tot he top of the list ;D [/quote] depends on which sport you comment on about ned lol.

[quote name="aaronjm75" post="1164939" timestamp="1327409981"] alright vp, I'll play your game you rogue ;-) If we're going to throw out stats, then let's accurately compare apples to apples. [b]Qb to Qb[/b] Aston Walter - Soph - regular season stats 105/158, 1451 yards, 14 TD, 5 INT 136 rush att, 852 yards, 8 TD 2303 yards total offense and 22 total TDs Quirante - junior 367 yards passing and 1033 yards rushing 1400 yards total offense, excuse my not knowing or caring to look up how many TDs he had one of these things is not like the other.  And dont feed me the line, "Vidor runs the slot-T and never passes" because Crosby ran the spread and our Qb still had nearly as many rushing yards as your slot-T QB. [/quote] You can compare stats all you want to man. I got 3 words for you. All-state Honorable Mention. Nuff said. Oh and another stat you forgot to mention 42-20 8)

[quote name="bmrm" post="1164913" timestamp="1327378916"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=94718.msg1164588#msg1164588 date=1327339515] As well as basketball pickems maybe we can have a contest on who has the best positive to negative Karma ratio.....lol, I cant believe that I only have 80 something of each... [/quote] I can't believe I have a 2:1 ratio on the good side - what's up with that?  I'll never believe it but I've been told I'm quite the smarta$$. [/quote] One simple remark about PA, Beaumont, Silsbee, WOS, or the midcounty teams and that will change. trust me i know lol.

[quote name="RED MACHINE" post="1164931" timestamp="1327407337"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94086.msg1164849#msg1164849 date=1327365538] [quote author=aaronjm75 link=topic=94086.msg1164799#msg1164799 date=1327356929] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94086.msg1164666#msg1164666 date=1327344437] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=94086.msg1164448#msg1164448 date=1327292249] [quote author=Coach4life link=topic=94086.msg1164445#msg1164445 date=1327291379] You are correct Aggie. It was the DFW clinic on their screen game. He and his staff spent an extra hour after with [b]us[/b]. But clearly not enough time to judge those things. Anyways...how well are the lower levels in Crosby. [/quote] Just curious, who is "us"? BTW, not sure how the lower levels are in Crosby but I did get to see the varsity first hand last season as I broadcast their playoff game against Vidor. Varsity had great size and speed (Crosby's receiving corp was unbelievably big and athletic, all of them '6"3 or bigger) but just couldn't understand why they chose to line up in a 3-3-5 defense against Vidor's slot T offense. Vidor just ran through them with no problems, particularly the right side. The more talented team (Crosby) definitely got beat by the harder working team (Vidor). [/quote] Yeah they were really good AAW.  ::) Just a few stats from the game Aston - qb - 9-20 for 137 yards the most yards they got was from rushing. They had one receiver that was 6'2 and that was all intimidation seeing as how he had 1 catch for 8 yards and he was being guarded by a 5'7 junior. The leading receiver was 6'0 and he had the bulk of the receiving yards with 79. But i wouldn't call them the more talented team. IMO a real "talented" receiving core was Montgomery's. And i don't see them as the most talented team. They just simply got out coached and out played. IMO the most talented person out on crosby was the two twins and that was all they had. [b]And they weren't as talented as Quirante and Clark[/b] [/quote] Really?  You're really going to go there? [/quote] Yes i'm really going to go there. Did either one of the Walter twins get state honorable mention like Quirante did? Or make every single all star team like Clark did? [/quote] I'm pretty sure they will make alot of ALLSTAR teams when they become Seniors. Did pretty well as Sophomores. [/quote] You can say that now but they didn't do it this year. And Quirante is a junior.  8) Oh and did i mention he started on defense and it was his first year playing QB and yet he still had 367 yards passing and 1033 yards rushing.

[quote name="2% Milk" post="1164926" timestamp="1327389726"] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=94743.msg1164895#msg1164895 date=1327373106] [size=36pt][font=impact][b]The Might Vidor Pirate Offensive line, of course!!! [/b] [/font] [/size] Undersized, under rated, lion hearted. Lead the district in rushing and second in team offense. Three rounds deep in the playoffs!! Dumb question. [/quote]Everything that you stated about vidors line could be said about Kelly's to. Not saying vidor didn't have a better line than Kelly I'm just saying it seems like both teams offensive lines were very alike. Under rated, undersized, and fought till the end every play. Both teams also had a potent rushing attack it seemed like anyone with decent speed could have gone in the Kelly backfield and picked up significant yards. [/quote] Here's a stat i bet you can't say about the Kelly line. In every single one of Vidor's game the offensive line was out matches by atleast 50 pounds per player and 2 games we were outmatched 100 pounds per player. That means each player had atleast 50 or 100 pounds less than the guy in front of them and yet they were still dominating. Here

[quote name="robanadana" post="1164895" timestamp="1327373106"] [size=36pt][font=impact][b]The Might Vidor Pirate Offensive line, of course!!! [/b] [/font] [/size] Undersized, under rated, lion hearted. Lead the district in rushing and second in team offense. Three rounds deep in the playoffs!! Dumb question. [/quote] ^what he said  8)

[quote name="aaronjm75" post="1164799" timestamp="1327356929"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94086.msg1164666#msg1164666 date=1327344437] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=94086.msg1164448#msg1164448 date=1327292249] [quote author=Coach4life link=topic=94086.msg1164445#msg1164445 date=1327291379] You are correct Aggie. It was the DFW clinic on their screen game. He and his staff spent an extra hour after with [b]us[/b]. But clearly not enough time to judge those things. Anyways...how well are the lower levels in Crosby. [/quote] Just curious, who is "us"? BTW, not sure how the lower levels are in Crosby but I did get to see the varsity first hand last season as I broadcast their playoff game against Vidor. Varsity had great size and speed (Crosby's receiving corp was unbelievably big and athletic, all of them '6"3 or bigger) but just couldn't understand why they chose to line up in a 3-3-5 defense against Vidor's slot T offense. Vidor just ran through them with no problems, particularly the right side. The more talented team (Crosby) definitely got beat by the harder working team (Vidor). [/quote] Yeah they were really good AAW.  ::) Just a few stats from the game Aston - qb - 9-20 for 137 yards the most yards they got was from rushing. They had one receiver that was 6'2 and that was all intimidation seeing as how he had 1 catch for 8 yards and he was being guarded by a 5'7 junior. The leading receiver was 6'0 and he had the bulk of the receiving yards with 79. But i wouldn't call them the more talented team. IMO a real "talented" receiving core was Montgomery's. And i don't see them as the most talented team. They just simply got out coached and out played. IMO the most talented person out on crosby was the two twins and that was all they had. [b]And they weren't as talented as Quirante and Clark[/b] [/quote] Really?  You're really going to go there? [/quote] Yes i'm really going to go there. Did either one of the Walter twins get state honorable mention like Quirante did? Or make every single all star team like Clark did?

[quote name="panther blue" post="1164795" timestamp="1327356696"] good kids and fans, have to suffer for bad kids and fans. [/quote] yep when the majority are bad kids and fans.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1164748" timestamp="1327351225"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=92039.msg1154983#msg1154983 date=1325798912] [quote author=HillGuy link=topic=92039.msg1154982#msg1154982 date=1325798792] Yep, there will be only one left...good luck to Vidor staying within 30 pts  :) [/quote] Nah. We don't need your luck.  ;D lmao jk jk man. Thank you. [/quote]Your head is still into football season. But reality bites hard. Hangs around like a drinking binge. [/quote] Your really eating this up aren't you man lol.

[quote name="broussardm" post="1164716" timestamp="1327348518"] Coaches and rosters for both the West Team and East Team are going to be released Wednesday afternoon. [/quote] Oh dang. 2 days. I can't wait to hear the haters. btw there are gonna be a few surprises. :)

[quote name="mat" post="1164703" timestamp="1327347159"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=94550.msg1164683#msg1164683 date=1327344922] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=94550.msg1164207#msg1164207 date=1327255793] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=94550.msg1164190#msg1164190 date=1327249696] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=94550.msg1163975#msg1163975 date=1327167895] [quote author=vhs link=topic=94550.msg1163421#msg1163421 date=1327096965] Let the healing begin  :D [/quote] I don't know that there is a lot of healing that needs to begin.  Yes, there has been much divisiveness in the district, but I don't know that can be left completely at Dr. Thomas' feet. There is a school board that had its role in creating quite a bit of that as well. And I know that Dr. Thomas' tenure will be scarred by a number of controversies (Calvin Walker, transportation department issues, hotelgate, etc).  But as he retires, I don't know that you can say that the Beaumont ISD is in dire shape.  Academically, the district has reached the status as high as exemplary and in fact this past school did enough to do that but for the unacceptable status of a single middle school.  Financially, despite the numerous scandels in which BISD was apparently overcharged, BISD budgetary wise is still in a lot better shape than many of its neighboring school districts. And finally, in the area of athletics while some of the hoped for goals have not been reached, the athletic department is anything but a disaster.  The teams regularly reach the playoffs and in some cases have progressed far.  It has ushered in a new stadium that is in demand for use not only for BISD district games, but playoff games as well and, in fact, was a coin flip away from being host to a regional final game this past season.  Further, that stadium is used by a neighboring district as part of its season opening soccer tournament.  In a time where some districts have been the target of TEA receiverships, layoffs, unacceptable status and being unable to guide through bond issues to upgrade facilities, there are some of us that are quite envious of the state BISD is in now. [/quote] What a great post! And no one from Vidor has room to say anything about BISD with the shape their district is in. [/quote] Well there budget should be in even better shape now that they got rid of his salary  ;) And please tell me what kind of shape Vidor is in Yeoj. [/quote] Forced retirements, lay offs, unrenewed contracts, and TEA coming in to reorganize Vidor's budget so they could actually operate financially. Maybe VISD should have asked Dr. Thomas to donate his raise to their budget. Lmbo  :D  What is that saying about people who live in glass houses that throw stones? [/quote] Correct me if I'm wrong but's my understanding that Vidor requested the services of TASB consultants as a proactive effort. That's different than TEA "coming in". [/quote] It's not worth arguing over mat. He's just an old man with a grudge against Vidor. He won't listen to reason.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1164448" timestamp="1327292249"] [quote author=Coach4life link=topic=94086.msg1164445#msg1164445 date=1327291379] You are correct Aggie. It was the DFW clinic on their screen game. He and his staff spent an extra hour after with [b]us[/b]. But clearly not enough time to judge those things. Anyways...how well are the lower levels in Crosby. [/quote] Just curious, who is "us"? BTW, not sure how the lower levels are in Crosby but I did get to see the varsity first hand last season as I broadcast their playoff game against Vidor. Varsity had great size and speed (Crosby's receiving corp was unbelievably big and athletic, all of them '6"3 or bigger) but just couldn't understand why they chose to line up in a 3-3-5 defense against Vidor's slot T offense. Vidor just ran through them with no problems, particularly the right side. The more talented team (Crosby) definitely got beat by the harder working team (Vidor). [/quote] Yeah they were really good AAW.  ::) Just a few stats from the game Aston - qb - 9-20 for 137 yards the most yards they got was from rushing. They had one receiver that was 6'2 and that was all intimidation seeing as how he had 1 catch for 8 yards and he was being guarded by a 5'7 junior. The leading receiver was 6'0 and he had the bulk of the receiving yards with 79. But i wouldn't call them the more talented team. IMO a real "talented" receiving core was Montgomery's. And i don't see them as the most talented team. They just simply got out coached and out played. IMO the most talented person out on crosby was the two twins and that was all they had. And they weren't as talented as Quirante and Clark.

[quote name="liltex" post="1164457" timestamp="1327310809"] Thanks I missed seeing it VP 32;) [/quote] No problem.

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1164190" timestamp="1327249696"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=94550.msg1163975#msg1163975 date=1327167895] [quote author=vhs link=topic=94550.msg1163421#msg1163421 date=1327096965] Let the healing begin  :D [/quote] I don't know that there is a lot of healing that needs to begin.  Yes, there has been much divisiveness in the district, but I don't know that can be left completely at Dr. Thomas' feet. There is a school board that had its role in creating quite a bit of that as well. And I know that Dr. Thomas' tenure will be scarred by a number of controversies (Calvin Walker, transportation department issues, hotelgate, etc).  But as he retires, I don't know that you can say that the Beaumont ISD is in dire shape.  Academically, the district has reached the status as high as exemplary and in fact this past school did enough to do that but for the unacceptable status of a single middle school.  Financially, despite the numerous scandels in which BISD was apparently overcharged, BISD budgetary wise is still in a lot better shape than many of its neighboring school districts. And finally, in the area of athletics while some of the hoped for goals have not been reached, the athletic department is anything but a disaster.  The teams regularly reach the playoffs and in some cases have progressed far.  It has ushered in a new stadium that is in demand for use not only for BISD district games, but playoff games as well and, in fact, was a coin flip away from being host to a regional final game this past season.  Further, that stadium is used by a neighboring district as part of its season opening soccer tournament.  In a time where some districts have been the target of TEA receiverships, layoffs, unacceptable status and being unable to guide through bond issues to upgrade facilities, there are some of us that are quite envious of the state BISD is in now. [/quote] What a great post! And no one from Vidor has room to say anything about BISD with the shape their district is in. [/quote] Well there budget should be in even better shape now that they got rid of his salary  ;) And please tell me what kind of shape Vidor is in Yeoj.

Looks like they were students. Just proves my point about La Marque ISD. Disgraceful.