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[quote name="shooter" post="1419353" timestamp="1374004435"] Yes, you can win if the talent is there, but you can achieve unbelievable things when everyone is on the same page. If the talent is average or nearly equal to the opponent, coaching can be the difference. A players belief in his coach(es) derives from his communication skills, practice and game organization, evaluation and adaption to player skill sets, his self-discipline and his abillity to hold everyone associated with the program equally accountable for TEAM success. A coach who operates with his ego will abandon the one thing he needs most, his players. [/quote] let me interject same thought but written differently: Coaches[color=red] must[/color] 'connect' with their players before they can lead them. You gotta have the respect from your players.  You can have all the talent in the world...................................

[quote name="Basketball IQ" post="1419401" timestamp="1374009191"] It appears that the competition level and school participation has fallen off drastically. Very sparse crowds and teams at Silsbee this year and for the teams that did show up they were less than impressive. Wondering if this "splintering" of schools to hold their own league as well as the 7 on 7 eventually make  summer ball unproductive.... [/quote]Kids are involved in other things and makes it hard to attend.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1418736" timestamp="1373823281"] [quote author=PA4Life link=topic=112887.msg1418689#msg1418689 date=1373807877] Memorial only had 1 starter there.  The rest was ay 7 on 7 and at AAU tournaments. Memorial program is getting better everyday. The kids are really working hard to get better. [/quote] 8) [/quote]Yep, been watching Dorian Chapman all summer. He's getting stronger and playing against some of the best players in the country. PA Memorial will be tough.

[quote name="JRidge" post="1418545" timestamp="1373748502"] Just wondering how the responce to this queation will turn out? I know that talented teams such as Bmt Ozen & Central have coaches that are ridiculed from time to time on there coaching strategies or abilities! In my personal opinion, I believe that if a player buys into a coaches :o program, works hard and believes in them, a player will burst through walls trying to satisfy there coach! Maybe this is how some less talented teams reach great heights when not expected!  JMO what is yours? [/quote][color=red]I have a question[/color]. Lets suppose I have my five starters for next year. The following players all SUPPOSELY have something in common, THEIR SLOW!!! PG: Tyreke Evans SG: Wally Szczerbiak SF: Paul Pierce PF: Glen Davis C: Yao Ming My program historically is  fast break and pressure full court defense. Should I  fit my program to fit my players or should I get my players to buy into my system?

[quote name="outanup" post="1418473" timestamp="1373719374"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=112856.msg1418467#msg1418467 date=1373715513] I can't help but think, would there be this much riff raff if I would have followed Nederlands Football team and snapped pictures of that secret Spring football game?  Now that I think about it, how creepy is it for a 'mom and pop's reporter to be following teenage kids around like a 'groupy' and snap secret photos?  Those kids are minors.  I wonder if those kid's parents consented to that to 'Mr. Creepy photo guy'? [/quote] Wow!!!!! drag another school into this, thats how threads get off track. If, and i said IF these schools are guilty of cheating they will have to suffer the consequences...period. No pointing the finger at someone else, man up and be accountable.. [/quote] And here lies another problem!! smh

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1418219" timestamp="1373632592"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=112856.msg1418217#msg1418217 date=1373631756] [quote author=bobbymcgee link=topic=112856.msg1418216#msg1418216 date=1373630919] Photo evidence [Hidden Content] [/quote]Photo evidence from a non credible website in an investigation?  Is there video evidence?  I wonder if the REAL media sources or the UIL have that kind of evidence? [/quote] In which of the three pics of Ozen are they breaking the rules? [/quote] I think they should have kept the pix where the coaches were driving on I-10 and the one where they were watering the grass.

I'm a little leery trying to support HJ in this manner but I sometimes feel my older brother (from another momma) need some joy in his life. Therefore, I am hoping that all HJ supporters will watch this and the HJ team. Its probably best to watch after a nice cross-country run.  It is probably the only *hope* you have of getting past Jack Yates in the playoffs. Ya gotta change your mind-set. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417724" timestamp="1372789703"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417709#msg1417709 date=1372784675] [quote author=DXTR link=topic=112733.msg1417690#msg1417690 date=1372780216] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417680#msg1417680 date=1372778548] As much as I hate to admit it, HJ will do good in district this year and once again make the playoffs  :o  ::) .  NOW!!! When they get to 2nd round playoffs ( depending on when they face the mighty mighty Jack Yates Lions- representing 3rd Ward) it will once again be a similar conclusion ;D [/quote]Don't they represent a lot more than just the 3rd Ward? ;D [/quote]  >:(  You weren't suppose to advertise this all over the forum. Now Nash is gonna come in with his NBA analysis from 50 years ago.  ;) [/quote].  No need for me Dove.  Everyone except you pretty well understands that Yates plays "outside the lines" [/quote]They do? Did you realize one of their *star players* will not play this year with Yates, because Yates follow the rules???

[quote name="DXTR" post="1417690" timestamp="1372780216"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417680#msg1417680 date=1372778548] As much as I hate to admit it, HJ will do good in district this year and once again make the playoffs  :o  ::) .  NOW!!! When they get to 2nd round playoffs ( depending on when they face the mighty mighty Jack Yates Lions- representing 3rd Ward) it will once again be a similar conclusion ;D [/quote]Don't they represent a lot more than just the 3rd Ward? ;D [/quote]  >:(  You weren't suppose to advertise this all over the forum. Now Nash is gonna come in with his NBA analysis from 50 years ago.  ;)

As much as I hate to admit it, HJ will do good in district this year and once again make the playoffs  :o  ::) .  NOW!!! When they get to 2nd round playoffs ( depending on when they face the mighty mighty Jack Yates Lions- representing 3rd Ward) it will once again be a similar conclusion ;D

Thanks Pumper, glad to hear the positive support. Yep, Ozen has the track and possibly football in the making. On a sidenote, saw Nakia from Ozen in her UT workout. Looked strange for a minute seeing her in burnt orange. Time is passing fast for these kids. Flavor the moment and enjoy the experience.  ;)

[quote name="Pumper" post="1417502" timestamp="1372703029"] Shorter drive to Baton Rouge than to College Station or Austin. Johnny Jones played on a final 4 team at LSU in '81 and asst coached on another final 4 team there in '86.  He has brought some energy back into the program and people are starting to get excited about basketball again.  They have a great legacy, but frankly have been pretty bad in recent years.  Recruiting will fix that, and so far it looks like Jones may be the guy to get them back on the right track  again.  And he's from just down the road in Deridder. [/quote] yep!

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417500" timestamp="1372702798"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112786.msg1417496#msg1417496 date=1372702029] [quote author=no-look link=topic=112786.msg1417485#msg1417485 date=1372700987] LSU?  Thats not a Texas school.  ;D [/quote]  ??? I was just recently told it's just a "rebound" down I-10  ;) [/quote] did you see any Yates players when you were there? [/quote] I think most of them live off "45" and I-10 is too far a drive for them right now. ;)

[quote name="no-look" post="1417485" timestamp="1372700987"] LSU?  Thats not a Texas school.  ;D [/quote]  ??? I was just recently told it's just a "rebound" down I-10  ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1417487" timestamp="1372701283"] Nash, in your opinion, who is the better player, Zjori Bosha or Jordan Hunter? [/quote]You can't really judge the two. (1) They play in different systems in high school

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417472" timestamp="1372699761"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417468#msg1417468 date=1372699306] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417423#msg1417423 date=1372694405] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196] Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.*  But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.*  ;) ;) ;) ;) [/quote] When top players in area are discussed (including on this board) he is rarely much of the discussion and I am stating that he very much belongs in the discussion By the way, dove.  Bosha is a lot better than that for which he is getting credit in this area. [/quote] Care to explain? Not getting your meaning. [/quote] [/quote]Ohhhhh!! Yeah, you make a valid point. I think this is his time *this year.* You can tell the kid has put in a lot of work. I like to see that in players.

[quote name="Pumper" post="1417429" timestamp="1372695345"] Curious how it was and what you thought about Johnny Jones and the facilities over there?  Practice facilities, locker rooms, etc are pretty new; just wonder how they compare.  Jones seems to be rebuilding quickly over there... [/quote] Very approachable coach. It seems like the people are behind him. When we got there, he had a camp going on and[u] I saw him coaching these little kids[/u]. Nice facilities and they are still in the upgrade mode. Athletic Academic Support Center, one of the best I've seen so far.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417423" timestamp="1372694405"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196] Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.*  But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.*  ;) ;) ;) ;) [/quote] By the way, dove.  Bosha is a lot better than that for which he is getting credit in this area. [/quote] Care to explain? Not getting your meaning.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417422" timestamp="1372694266"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417398#msg1417398 date=1372691427] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417379#msg1417379 date=1372685818] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196] Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.*  But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.*  ;) ;) ;) ;) [/quote] Of course he did.  At the same time, when those skills become critical late in the game or perhaps even overtime, it will benefit him more to have been in the gym [b]and[/b] ran cross country. [/quote] Nah, the coach will call a timeout and give him a 2 minute breather.  ::) [/quote] Tons of circumstances where timeout cannot or will not be taken. [/quote] Tons of times to sub out  ::)

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417421" timestamp="1372694241"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417415#msg1417415 date=1372693454] After speaking with one of the HJ (will go nameless) players yesterday, I didn't realize he had another year to play. I am now predicting HJ will be okay this year. For those of [s]us [/s]...errrr you who have been thinking their program is about to finally go down will have to wait once again. Again, HJ will be okay. [/quote] Really?  In spite of wrong off season conditioning programs and the weak schedule? [/quote] Yes, in spite of all dat!!

After speaking with one of the HJ (will go nameless) players yesterday, I didn't realize he had another year to play. I am now predicting HJ will be okay this year. For those of [s]us [/s]...errrr you who have been thinking their program is about to finally go down will have to wait once again. Again, HJ will be okay.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417379" timestamp="1372685818"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196] Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.*  But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.*  ;) ;) ;) ;) [/quote] Of course he did.  At the same time, when those skills become critical late in the game or perhaps even overtime, it will benefit him more to have been in the gym [b]and[/b] ran cross country. [/quote] Nah, the coach will call a timeout and give him a 2 minute breather.  ::)

Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.*  But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.*  ;) ;) ;) ;)

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417322" timestamp="1372627943"] Dang cross country did it again:  SBG with Zjori Bosha and Sammy Mitchell (from cross country running HJ) defeated the Ozen squad today.  Mr. Bosha had 19.  Keep running, Zjori. [/quote] Typical, kick a man down when he's already on the ground........ sheez!!!

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1417276" timestamp="1372606350"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417273#msg1417273 date=1372603825] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417185#msg1417185 date=1372535922] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417180#msg1417180 date=1372529626] [quote author=$MTC-28$ link=topic=112733.msg1417175#msg1417175 date=1372527593] Okay seriously what's with the cross country thing?? [/quote] Some sort of magical powers that HJ seems to concoct every season to win in their district. [/quote] Seriously?  Da Dove disapproves of cross country training for basketball players as not being sufficiently sport specific.  Different things work for different people/different teams.  Take a look at LeBrons physique-  The great majority of what you see is attributable to yoga.  On the other hand, I would suspect that Larry Bird, Oliver Miller, Boris Diaw and Big Baby Davis( to name a few) had much of a training regimen and still managed to do well in the NBA. [/quote]Please stop comparing HJ to the NBA. Thanks!! ;) [/quote] NO comparison of HJ to NBA.  The obvious point is there are many different ways to skin a cat. [/quote] Yeah, but you keep comparing cats to elephants.