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[color=pink]Bi-District Champs 2010-2013 Area Champs 2010-2013 Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/color] Just shaking my head. On a sinking ship and ain't willing to swim with the rats to fadeee away.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1391653" timestamp="1365179902"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=110519.msg1391641#msg1391641 date=1365177568] Aaaah, yes.... Coaching... (how did I know that was coming up?) Abe, I was looking for him to answer, because my rebuttal would have been a follow up question,' does Vidor basketball have this X factor?' [/quote]Of course, Coach Lee looked like a genius against us this past year. Next year he won't be able to do the same. ;) [/quote]Oh Lawdy! One or two transfers and they think dey back in da hunt agin!!!smh [color=pink]20-4A District Champs 2010-2012 Bi-District Champs 2010-2013 Area Champs 2010-2013 Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/color]

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1391594" timestamp="1365171174"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110519.msg1391348#msg1391348 date=1365098134] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110519.msg1391344#msg1391344 date=1365097617] Still waiting bluedove. [/quote] So, you're saying Central won't win it all in 4-A? iF so, why do you feel this way? [/quote] Yes that's what I'm saying. And I feel that way cuz they just don't have the X factor.  8) [/quote] I like a person who speaks their mind. Continuing to interject your "twocents," what is the "X factor" you refer to?

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1391555" timestamp="1365167707"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110519.msg1391313#msg1391313 date=1365089251] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=110519.msg1391294#msg1391294 date=1365086161] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110519.msg1391284#msg1391284 date=1365082029] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=110519.msg1391283#msg1391283 date=1365081598] with all the Central has coming back, me personally dont think one player will help a school challenge Central for the district title. Central probably wont make it to Austin but for the next 2 years the district title stays in Jaguarland. [/quote]Central will win State!!  ;D [/quote] Dove you a fool frat, we all know it comes down to more than talent to win the big one [/quote]  ;D But lets hope Central keeps thinking otherwise. [/quote]  ::) ::) [/quote] Only two Central peeps to mess with on this forum, sad.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1391576" timestamp="1365168644"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110793.msg1391549#msg1391549 date=1365167475] [b]Central will win State this year!!!  ???  OOOPS! Wrong forum!  :D[/b]  Congrats PJ -Keep grinding!! [/quote] ::) ::) [/quote]Hhahahahaha!

Central will win State this year!!!  ???  OOOPS! Wrong forum!  :D  Congrats PJ -Keep grinding!!

One of the few times Hannity makes sense, instead of $ents.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1391393" timestamp="1365109742"] Fired with a $100,000 bonus. smh  ::) [/quote]Sheez! I didn't know times had changed this much!!! Must be a republican lead State.

Name branding?

[quote name="UNLV" post="1391327" timestamp="1365093739"] The wait is frustrating. Anyone think Lamar is holding out for a CUSA spot if Rice leaves. No Rice, no CUSA in or near Houston. [/quote]Lamar can have CUSA.  Everybody is leaving anyway.

I know times have changed but I've seen worse.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1391351" timestamp="1365098676"] Whoever is hired by Huntington ought to spend some time with coaches at Yates, Madison, and Triple A and learn the "ins and outs" of player acquistion. [/quote] Huntington High is 1-a or 2-a? Hope they're not in 3-a. All acquisitions have been taken over

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1391337" timestamp="1365095767"] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=110791.msg1391324#msg1391324 date=1365092245] They will be successful if they get a huge amount of transfer athletes from Lufkin.  ;) [/quote] I wonder if they have an exceptional "communications program"? [/quote] double MeSsY!!

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1391344" timestamp="1365097617"] Still waiting bluedove. [/quote] So, you're saying Central won't win it all in 4-A? iF so, why do you feel this way?

you guys kill me with these old skool thoughts from 5 years ago  [color=blue]I was actually referring to the kids/parents changing teams so often, not the coaches. I had to chuckle at the comment about 'old school from 5 years ago'.  It reminded me of when a 10 year old is telling a story and says 'when I was a kid'  :)[/color] [color=maroon][size=14pt]Edit! Yeah, I was being a little sarcastic with the '5-year" comment  ;)[/size][/color] ==========

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1391324" timestamp="1365092245"] They will be successful if they get a huge amount of transfer athletes from Lufkin.  ;) [/quote] MeSsY!!!!!! ;D

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1391294" timestamp="1365086161"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110519.msg1391284#msg1391284 date=1365082029] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=110519.msg1391283#msg1391283 date=1365081598] with all the Central has coming back, me personally dont think one player will help a school challenge Central for the district title. Central probably wont make it to Austin but for the next 2 years the district title stays in Jaguarland. [/quote]Central will win State!!  ;D [/quote] Dove you a fool frat, we all know it comes down to more than talent to win the big one [/quote]  ;D But lets hope Central keeps thinking otherwise.

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1391283" timestamp="1365081598"] with all the Central has coming back, me personally dont think one player will help a school challenge Central for the district title. Central probably wont make it to Austin but for the next 2 years the district title stays in Jaguarland. [/quote]Central will win State!!  ;D

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1391177" timestamp="1365023128"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110499.msg1391163#msg1391163 date=1365022111] [quote author=BigCountry66 link=topic=110499.msg1391109#msg1391109 date=1365013260] It seems like AAU is a great place for kids to stay engaged during the off-season, maybe improve and also to display talent.  Is it safe to say that a college coach/recruiter might put more stock on how the kid does in school ball simply from a 'team player, coachability, attitude, intelligence, etc' point of view.  Before you answer, I know it will depend on who is doing the recruiting and the program that he/she is recruiting for.  So, for the sake of my question, let's assume that we are talking about a program that places as much emphasis on academics as it does athletics.  Also a program that is interested in winning games but is just as interested in things like character, integrity, team(not a bunch of individuals), discipline, etc. Being 'old-school', if I was recruiting a kid these days, I would put way more emphasis on what the 'school' coach could tell me rather than the AAU coach(s).  IMO, these kids play for so many different coaches during the summer that none of them can really speak to the things that really matter.  It doesn't matter how much talent the kid has, if there are character flaws, they will come out when he/she gets to college and then it starts.  You know, the transferring from school to school with the same song and dance every time.  "The coach didn't like him" or "He didn't get along with the coach" or "His coach was an idiot" or...  Well, you know the rest.  So as a recruiter, why would I spend time acquiring a talented kid who is just going to 'bring his talents' to a different school at the first sign of difficulty?  I wouldn't.  But that's just me.  This younger generation of parents has it all figured out and knows so much more than I do.  If I could have only been that wise.  :) [/quote]You raise some excellent points and I'm "old school"  too but smart enough to respect, listen and observe new school. (A)I've asked several college coaches do they put more stock into high school coaches or summer coaches.  Several said they contact the summer coaches and several said whichever one is easier to reach. (B) Let me put this in another way, coaches love it when a kid is from a two-parent home, especially when a dad is home. From what I'm understanding is that a kid is use to taking instructions from a male,etc. etc. Yes, they want to know if a kid is coachable, attitude, team player, etc. Coaches can lose their jobs over a nutcase. But l could add a little more to counteract my last statement but I'll stop. (C) Big Country, if you were  a recruiter  and if you had the chance to get a Top 100 player to your school, guess what? More than likely you might go after him  ;) Think about it, there was a kid from this area who was [u]suppose[/u] to have an attitude problem. Still got into a major D1 school.  ;) Hmmm, kinda an extension from my answer from (B).....HMMMM! (D) Actually, you would be surprised how many of the top teams keep their coaching staff in place. They DO NOT play for so many other coaches- you guys kill me with these old skool thoughts from 5 years ago  ;) (E) Transferring from school to school. Interesting subject. Students are students. They transfer all the time for various reasons, whether they are athletes or not. Some kids transfer for class rankings, some for better athletic settings, some for other conveniences, some for the marching band, academics and some for the school environment. I happen to be in contact with the parents of a kid who plays at Michigan. He was a star basketball player at his high school and transferred to a prep school on the east coast. H e was already a star player. Lets just say he transferred for personal reasons and had nothing directly to do with athletics.  ;) So, just because an athlete transfers isn't always about sports.  ;) [/quote] Dove- does you last sentence apply to Yates and Triple A? [/quote] Yep!  :D

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[quote name="BRONX ROX" post="1391162" timestamp="1365022034"] [quote author=Aces_Full link=topic=110499.msg1388696#msg1388696 date=1364239796] AAU does not develop talent...it showcases it. [/quote] FAR FROM THE TRUTH  ;) [/quote] Thank you!

[quote name="BigCountry66" post="1391109" timestamp="1365013260"] It seems like AAU is a great place for kids to stay engaged during the off-season, maybe improve and also to display talent.  Is it safe to say that a college coach/recruiter might put more stock on how the kid does in school ball simply from a 'team player, coachability, attitude, intelligence, etc' point of view.  Before you answer, I know it will depend on who is doing the recruiting and the program that he/she is recruiting for.  So, for the sake of my question, let's assume that we are talking about a program that places as much emphasis on academics as it does athletics.  Also a program that is interested in winning games but is just as interested in things like character, integrity, team(not a bunch of individuals), discipline, etc. Being 'old-school', if I was recruiting a kid these days, I would put way more emphasis on what the 'school' coach could tell me rather than the AAU coach(s).  IMO, these kids play for so many different coaches during the summer that none of them can really speak to the things that really matter.  It doesn't matter how much talent the kid has, if there are character flaws, they will come out when he/she gets to college and then it starts.  You know, the transferring from school to school with the same song and dance every time.  "The coach didn't like him" or "He didn't get along with the coach" or "His coach was an idiot" or...  Well, you know the rest.  So as a recruiter, why would I spend time acquiring a talented kid who is just going to 'bring his talents' to a different school at the first sign of difficulty?  I wouldn't.  But that's just me.  This younger generation of parents has it all figured out and knows so much more than I do.  If I could have only been that wise.  :) [/quote]You raise some excellent points and I'm "old school"  too but smart enough to respect, listen and observe new school. (A)I've asked several college coaches do they put more stock into high school coaches or summer coaches.  Several said they contact the summer coaches and several said whichever one is easier to reach. (B) Let me put this in another way, coaches love it when a kid is from a two-parent home, especially when a dad is home. From what I'm understanding is that a kid is use to taking instructions from a male,etc. etc. Yes, they want to know if a kid is coachable, attitude, team player, etc. Coaches can lose their jobs over a nutcase. But l could add a little more to counteract my last statement but I'll stop. (C) Big Country, if you were  a recruiter  and if you had the chance to get a Top 100 player to your school, guess what? More than likely you might go after him  ;) Think about it, there was a kid from this area who was [u]suppose[/u] to have an attitude problem. Still got into a major D1 school.  ;) Hmmm, kinda an extension from my answer from (B).....HMMMM! (D) Actually, you would be surprised how many of the top teams keep their coaching staff in place. They DO NOT play for so many other coaches- you guys kill me with these old skool thoughts from 5 years ago  ;) (E) Transferring from school to school. Interesting subject. Students are students. They transfer all the time for various reasons, whether they are athletes or not. Some kids transfer for class rankings, some for better athletic settings, some for other conveniences, some for the marching band, academics and some for the school environment. I happen to be in contact with the parents of a kid who plays at Michigan. He was a star basketball player at his high school and transferred to a prep school on the east coast. H e was already a star player. Lets just say he transferred for personal reasons and had nothing directly to do with athletics.  ;) So, just because an athlete transfers isn't always about sports.  ;)

[quote name="RuffRaider" post="1391055" timestamp="1365003354"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110724.msg1391009#msg1391009 date=1364993294] The rumors I kept hearing involving Keith Frazier was getting crazy. (1) He wasn't going to Tech if Chris Walker was hired as the permanent coach (2) possibility that his high school coach was getting a job at Tech if Frazier committed. Again, I said these were the rumors being spread out there, but still makes for some interesting conversation. Especially after he goes to SMU after the Tubby hire. [/quote] Funny. The rumors I heard was he would only go to Tech if Walker was named HC. Hear any rumors on Wanah Bail? Heard he is excited about Tubby. And supposedly Josh Gray hasn't decided what he is going to do but I'm guessing he stays. [/quote]ooops! I meant to type..."wasn't going to Tech unless Walker was hired. We are in agreement  ;)

DV just won't give in to the devil..... smh  ;D Go to 1 minute and 36 seconds of this video------- Look whose all in attendance. Evaluation Period [Hidden Content]

I'd like to throw in another question. Sort of a different question if yall don't mind. Its the off season Do you think (the majority of) players get scholarships playing high school ball these days?