BLUEDOVE3

Just when you think Nederland is about to go under for the final count, the rumors start to swirl about new player (s) coming to resuscitate their dying program and probably give Central a "run for their money" next season.  ;D

[quote name="Aces_Full" post="1388696" timestamp="1364239796"] AAU does not develop talent...it showcases it. [/quote]  You should never expect AAU or high school to develop your talent

Anyway Nash, back on topic please!!!! Is AAU the only way basketball players get scholarships????

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1388639" timestamp="1364228236"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110499.msg1388610#msg1388610 date=1364225074] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=110499.msg1388587#msg1388587 date=1364220639] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110499.msg1388581#msg1388581 date=1364219818] [quote author=understand link=topic=110499.msg1388442#msg1388442 date=1364143680] Question do you think AAU is the only way basketball players get a scholarship, because I have seen lots of good ball players that did not have the grades for college , playing AAU off season ball and I ask this question because most AAU coaches want to be real coaches and they always think they out coach the school coach, and that's because they have  the best kids from the area . So i'm still waitng to see my first AAU sign and one AAU coach develop a player that can not play and make them a better player. Players no one plays forever so get your school work or you're be trying to coach AAU one day and not have a real job, but making money charging aau [/quote][color=red] Nope, you don't need AAU[/color] (1)You can find out when practice starts in the Fall semester and try-out as a walk-on (2) You can get you a trainer/handler who has connections to college coaches. They have the contacts and you come and scrimmage with college teams. But if you play AAU, some won't deal with you because they want full control of the player. Those are just a few options out there other than AAU. [/quote] AAU is a great way to assemble a charter school team. [/quote] YES Prep schools  out of Houston would disagree. ;) large geographic area. no wins. No complaints among their district. I wonder why? Little Johnnies were winning  ;) [/quote] I think it is probably because they follow the rules and because they didnt have their AAU coach as the AD before they fired their head coach and replaced him with same AD and kept fired head coach as assistant.  Lots of integrity there. [/quote]Are you guys getting this information from a Fox News affiliate in Dallas? I'm really holding off from calling Tim Singleton to see if he will come on here and respond. Sheez!!

Okay guys, back on subject b4 I suspend your account!!!!

[quote name="no-look" post="1388630" timestamp="1364227160"] Dove, check your pm [/quote]OK

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1388587" timestamp="1364220639"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110499.msg1388581#msg1388581 date=1364219818] [quote author=understand link=topic=110499.msg1388442#msg1388442 date=1364143680] Question do you think AAU is the only way basketball players get a scholarship, because I have seen lots of good ball players that did not have the grades for college , playing AAU off season ball and I ask this question because most AAU coaches want to be real coaches and they always think they out coach the school coach, and that's because they have  the best kids from the area . So i'm still waitng to see my first AAU sign and one AAU coach develop a player that can not play and make them a better player. Players no one plays forever so get your school work or you're be trying to coach AAU one day and not have a real job, but making money charging aau [/quote][color=red] Nope, you don't need AAU[/color] (1)You can find out when practice starts in the Fall semester and try-out as a walk-on (2) You can get you a trainer/handler who has connections to college coaches. They have the contacts and you come and scrimmage with college teams. But if you play AAU, some won't deal with you because they want full control of the player. Those are just a few options out there other than AAU. [/quote] AAU is a great way to assemble a charter school team. [/quote] YES Prep schools  out of Houston would disagree. ;) large geographic area. no wins. No complaints among their district. I wonder why? Little Johnnies were winning  ;)

I think the hire wasn't so much about  wins/losses..hmmm?  Think people!!

[quote name="understand" post="1388442" timestamp="1364143680"] Question do you think AAU is the only way basketball players get a scholarship, because I have seen lots of good ball players that did not have the grades for college , playing AAU off season ball and I ask this question because most AAU coaches want to be real coaches and they always think they out coach the school coach, and that's because they have  the best kids from the area . So i'm still waitng to see my first AAU sign and one AAU coach develop a player that can not play and make them a better player. Players no one plays forever so get your school work or you're be trying to coach AAU one day and not have a real job, but making money charging aau [/quote][color=red] Nope, you don't need AAU[/color] (1)You can find out when practice starts in the Fall semester and try-out as a walk-on (2) You can get you a trainer/handler who has connections to college coaches. They have the contacts and you come and scrimmage with college teams. But if you play AAU, some won't deal with you because they want full control of the player. Those are just a few options out there other than AAU.

I can sense the Jags getting a little nervous  ;D

Maybe developing young men comes b4 wins and losses. Just trying to help ;)

Got a little curious and see that Blanks is the GM for Phx. Suns.

But back on subject, I think you raise a very valid point. Those guys are probably the ones who enjoyed the fruits of freedom using the summer camps to expand their knowledge of the game and start the trend that Texas players could play another game other than football.

[quote name="Pumper" post="1387931" timestamp="1363978236"] Pretty sure Lance Blanks went to McCullough.  Don't think the school exists any more, does it?  I think it is now Woodlands HS. I have a vague memory that Blanks dad played some pro football.  Not that it's relevant, but just popped into my head. Lance drove a white corvette with the license plate "UDUNK1" or something like that.  Cocky dude, but he could play.  Had a heck of a college run under Penders at UT. [/quote] Yep, I knew it wasn't an inner city school. His dad , Sid Blanks at one time played with the Houston OIlers. I was about 3 months old and I went to see his dad in an AFL all star game at old Jeppensen Stadium. For some reason I want to say it was the very first AFL all star game. But just too young to remember. ;D

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1387916" timestamp="1363975110"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=110076.msg1387833#msg1387833 date=1363960627] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110076.msg1387830#msg1387830 date=1363960404] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=110076.msg1387759#msg1387759 date=1363925470] Gilder went to Madison because that was where he was zoned to attend. Also, was told he did not want to be a part of any "shady" doings at AAA. ;) [/quote]I think Gilder left when "certain players" decided to play for other summer teams  ::)  :-X [/quote] That's what you get for thinking. ::) It just so happens that Amon Gilder has relatives in Silsbee and his uncle is the one who provided me that information. [/quote] ;D [/quote] ::)  Some daddies were furious when the kid left out on his own  ::)

[quote name="Pumper" post="1387851" timestamp="1363963171"] Lance Blanks - UT, then Detroit Pistons for a while Sean Gay - Texas Tech, then "cup of coffee" with the Spurs Gerry McGee - UH (at the end of the Guy Lewis days) Tracy White - D-1 for sure, but don't rememer which Tiko Crawford - pretty sure HBU, bach when they were D-1 Tony Gatlin - TSU Steve Smith - UH Ivan Jones - Baylor Wendall Nibbs - Juco (only because of grades) Andy Gilchrist - Rice Pat Crocklin - Central Florida There were 8 guys from that Houston Madison team in that summer league and all got scholarships of some kind, including Gay, McGee, Gatlin, Jones, Nibbs, Crocklin, etc.  That team went 40-0, won state, and the closest margin of the year was 11 pts.  Best HS team I've ever seen and had nobody over 6'5". [/quote]I remember Lance attended one of those fine "burb" schools in Houston. I don't think it was Memorial but a school close that level

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1387833" timestamp="1363960627"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110076.msg1387830#msg1387830 date=1363960404] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=110076.msg1387759#msg1387759 date=1363925470] Gilder went to Madison because that was where he was zoned to attend. Also, was told he did not want to be a part of any "shady" doings at AAA. ;) [/quote]I think Gilder left when "certain players" decided to play for other summer teams  ::)  :-X [/quote] That's what you get for thinking. ::) It just so happens that Amon Gilder has relatives in Silsbee and his uncle is the one who provided me that information. [/quote] Daddies got upset when McCluRE left AAA team ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1387759" timestamp="1363925470"] Gilder went to Madison because that was where he was zoned to attend. Also, was told he did not want to be a part of any "shady" doings at AAA. ;) [/quote]I think Gilder left when "certain players" decided to play for other summer teams  ::)  :-X

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1387462" timestamp="1363886987"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110076.msg1387461#msg1387461 date=1363886844] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=110076.msg1387433#msg1387433 date=1363881704] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=110076.msg1387430#msg1387430 date=1363881174] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110076.msg1387397#msg1387397 date=1363874750] Bottom line.... There aren't any major differences in Mumford and AAA Accept it and move on 1. They both educate their students as their mission 2. They both get students from a large geographic area 3. They both take a serious interest in their sports program 4. They both are 1-A and played and made it to State 5. They both in some circles are accused of stretching the rules [/quote]You forgot: both teams have 4 kids who will likely play at the next level. Oh wait, that's just ONE of the teams!! ::) [/quote] Come one Abe, that is PURELY coincidental. [/quote]Thank you Nash!! ;D [/quote] Do you think everything that Lazeek posted ( and I have verified this information) is also "coincidental? [/quote]I can honestly say King McClure, Jr. does not need to win a State title to get attention or go to the next level. He's one of the top guards in his class already and is being highly recruited by major D1's. Again, most of those guys from AAA DO NOT play for the same team during the summer.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1387449" timestamp="1363885197"] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I dont envy you Dove. [/quote] Man, you guys keep coming up with these Limbaugh theories and all I do is counter-answer. Should AAA be in 3-A? Sure!!

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1387527" timestamp="1363897130"] A 14U AAU team does not qualify as a junior high school team.  It does not mean they attended Triple A Academy academically.  They couldn't have because Triple A does not have a junior high school.  Freshmen in high school are 14 years old.  Therefore, they can play on the 14U AAU Team. Again,  Triple A was not a school until last year.  How could any of their roster been in junior high when they didn't even have a school two years ago. The difference is Triple A is not an academic institution.  They are putting kids on computer generated curriculum's for a few hours a day and then hitting the gym.  There is nothing wrong with that BUT, they should not be allowed to compete for the same championships as schools who:  1) cannot control their enrollment  2) cannot select their enrollment 3) must adhere to strict guidelines set forth by TEA regarding hours per day in the classroom 4) strict guidelines per TEA regarding instruction and how it is given [/quote]hMMM? Most kids I know in 8th grade are playing 14u and 9th graders are 15u. AAA school starts about from 8a.m. and classes end @ 4p.m. It is an academic institution. But , maybe their athletes have a half-day schedule like the kids in those student work programs.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1387554" timestamp="1363902429"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=110076.msg1387543#msg1387543 date=1363900510] BD3-I see where you replied to everyone's post but mine. Do you not have a comment or answer to my last two statements? [/quote] :o [/quote] ::)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1387790" timestamp="1363957363"] Again 14U AAU team does not = Junior High basketball team [/quote]I agree!!

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1387478" timestamp="1363890100"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=110076.msg1387433#msg1387433 date=1363881704] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=110076.msg1387430#msg1387430 date=1363881174] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110076.msg1387397#msg1387397 date=1363874750] Bottom line.... There aren't any major differences in Mumford and AAA Accept it and move on 1. They both educate their students as their mission 2. They both get students from a large geographic area 3. They both take a serious interest in their sports program 4. They both are 1-A and played and made it to State 5. They both in some circles are accused of stretching the rules [/quote]You forgot: both teams have 4 kids who will likely play at the next level. Oh wait, that's just ONE of the teams!! ::) [/quote] Come one Abe, that is PURELY coincidental.  [/quote]You're right. I 'm sure most 1A schools have MULTIPLE players who will play at the next level, right? What are the statistics: About 3.1% of HS Bball student-athletes play at the next level? Does that sound about right? Yet a school in the smallest classification in Texas (1A) has approx 35-40% of their team who will likely play at the next level? Interesting.... Over the last 10 years, I wonder how many (TOTAL) 1A kids from SETX played at the collegiate level? [/quote] First of all, no one knows what kid from AAA will play at the next level other than Singelton  and McClure. I have never said AAA isn't a basketball factory. Sure they focus on preparing their student-athletes for the next level, just like a lot of other public schools. Don't think Mumford athletes haven't a desire to play pro baseball or basketball. AAA is just a high profile school and its easy to pick on schools like this. Schools like Mumford can sit back in their rural areas and build nice athletic facilities, receive transfer students, &  reach Austin with little fanfare. I'm not knocking Mumford, but again, I just don't see any major differences in the two programs.

[quote name="flukeshot" post="1387750" timestamp="1363924880"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=110076.msg1387507#msg1387507 date=1363894580] Lets see now...hmmm? The names in bold I know are still with AAA. Not sure about Johnson kid (Larry Johnson's son UNLV fame. So thats about 4-5 players from the 8th grade. Just a different version of Little Dribblers. They grow up and play together. Like Mumford High. AAA Stallions [color=red][size=14pt]14U/8th Grade Basketball Team 2011 Roster[/size][/color] NUM PLAYER POS HT WT SCHOOL 1 Ty Bennett G/F 6-0 158 St. Anthony School, Dallas, Texas 3 [b]Amon Gilder [/b]G 5-10 155 Triple A Academy, Dallas, Texas [/quote] Gilder helped Madison win the 3A crown this year. Soph guard with NBA range. [/quote]Your right, I did see him with Madison and knew he had played with AAA. Didn't know his name.  ;) So thats probably makes it two players from the 8th grade team still playing.Current AAA players haven't been together that long.