BLUEDOVE3

[quote name="jackyateshoops" post="1379035" timestamp="1361742692"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=109733.msg1379002#msg1379002 date=1361735221] Alright guys, enough of the personal back and forth banter. Let's keep the talk to Silsbee/Houston Yates and leave the personal stuff out. [/quote] Mike this is really good, we need something like this in the city for real. [/quote] Some Houston peeps on here but they just watch

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1379016" timestamp="1361738362"] [quote author=chocky link=topic=109739.msg1378893#msg1378893 date=1361707985] Crosby vs PNG final score was 39 to 30 go Panthers [/quote]Don't forget that the score in the 1st game between OZEN and PNG was 47-44. ;) [/quote] You would equalize it out, wouldn't you?  :P

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1378918" timestamp="1361722452"] Best wishes to the Bulldogs- I am sure Dove would say the same [/quote] Yes!!! Go Dogs!!!!!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1379008" timestamp="1361735826"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109680.msg1379005#msg1379005 date=1361735423] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109680.msg1378989#msg1378989 date=1361733907] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109680.msg1378975#msg1378975 date=1361732600] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109680.msg1378968#msg1378968 date=1361731685] Abe, can I ask you a serious question? What do you think that Brian English would have done with THAT bunch at Central? [/quote]That's a hard question. That's a lot of talent to coach! ;D Don't know if Coach E would implement his style of play/coaching or play a more up tempo style. His record shows that he can do more with less, and suggests that Central would still be playing if he were their coach. I didn't see the game (obviously), so it's hard to say what would have happened in THAT game. He may have done a better job at adjusting (during the game) to the matchup against a team like Georgetown. Sometimes though, the coach can put his players in the right position, but kids gotta execute that plan. What do you think? [/quote] I think you hit the nail on the head! In the playoffs its ALL about coaching adjustments and match ups...I know what Coach E can do adjustment wise, and I also know what the Central coach lacks in that area...NOT that Coach Lee is just that terrible, but Coach English is just that much better.  I do understand that this Central team is a very young group, but with that you also must implement another coaching dynamic, and thats taking advantage of the "too young to know any better" factor, and allow them to play loose as well... English HAS done more with less, and I feel that with more he would DO more!  ;) [/quote]DV this is an interesting comment. Did you know your dad started 4-5 freshmen on varsity during one of his coaching gigs?  He allowed those freshmen the latitude to screw up but learn from their mistakes, and probably the best contribution he made was to allow those freshmen to play to[color=red] their strengths[/color]. His system matched the players he had, not the system trying to mold the players. [/quote] I actually learned that from HIM! He always said that he would always custom build the system to fit the kids and not the other way around..You HAVE to let young teams find their way..I think Central will be very good in due time...They may have been one of the most talented teams in the region this year, but lost early. However wih the right guy at the helm (not that Lee was the "wrong" guy) this team could have done a bit more...I happen to know a coach that took a team that started 3 sophs, and played 6 other sophs, to the state championship game... ::) ::)...Remember that, Dove? ;) [/quote] ;)

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1378989" timestamp="1361733907"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109680.msg1378975#msg1378975 date=1361732600] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109680.msg1378968#msg1378968 date=1361731685] Abe, can I ask you a serious question? What do you think that Brian English would have done with THAT bunch at Central? [/quote]That's a hard question. That's a lot of talent to coach! ;D Don't know if Coach E would implement his style of play/coaching or play a more up tempo style. His record shows that he can do more with less, and suggests that Central would still be playing if he were their coach. I didn't see the game (obviously), so it's hard to say what would have happened in THAT game. He may have done a better job at adjusting (during the game) to the matchup against a team like Georgetown. Sometimes though, the coach can put his players in the right position, but kids gotta execute that plan. What do you think? [/quote] I think you hit the nail on the head! In the playoffs its ALL about coaching adjustments and match ups...I know what Coach E can do adjustment wise, and I also know what the Central coach lacks in that area...NOT that Coach Lee is just that terrible, but Coach English is just that much better.  I do understand that this Central team is a very young group, but with that you also must implement another coaching dynamic, and thats taking advantage of the "too young to know any better" factor, and allow them to play loose as well... English HAS done more with less, and I feel that with more he would DO more!  ;) [/quote]DV this is an interesting comment. Did you know your dad started 4-5 freshmen on varsity during one of his coaching gigs?  He allowed those freshmen the latitude to screw up but learn from their mistakes, and probably the best contribution he made was to allow those freshmen to play to[color=red] their strengths[/color]. His system matched the players he had, not the system trying to mold the players.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1378912" timestamp="1361719992"] So a 2 kids from Africa move to 3rd ward of all places on earth. Come on son! Why would they come to 3rd ward? Yates has a foreign exchange program too? [/quote] When you have a program with that type of exposure schools like JY are approached. Its a good program. Been good for years. Schools like Yates have adapted to the times.  ;)

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1378903" timestamp="1361716036"] [quote author=jackyateshoops link=topic=109731.msg1378879#msg1378879 date=1361684020] [quote author=BigDaddy00 link=topic=109731.msg1378863#msg1378863 date=1361679707] Silsbee is gonna pull off the upset and shock all the Yates faithful and they will be quiet on here for a while. i sure am ready for it [/quote] We want to see you here late Tuesday night also.  [/quote] I will be here!! Most Silsbee fans are realist, we know that it is a uphill climb to beat Yates, but the arrogance by a few JY worshiping people on here (DV, BD) has gotten some Silsbee fans dander up ;) Silsbee respects Yates, but they do not fear Yates. [/quote]LOL! Let me go on record by saying that Silsbee is not scared of Yates!!! Those boys fear no team. But, that may be another downside.  Yates will feed off of it like a sleeping giant.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1378900" timestamp="1361714483"] [quote author=sasquare link=topic=109454.msg1378883#msg1378883 date=1361686366] Many of you all have forgotten, that Silsbee has always been a top competitor. We battled Port Arthur Lincoln and Baycity  every year when we were 4aaaa. we consistently ranked in the top ten and made it to Austin several times along with going to regionals so many times can't count. Port Arthur Lincoln had talent like Yates every year. [/quote]True that Lincoln and Sislbee didn't have move-ins back then, but neither did the competition from Houston. 20 years ago, teams simply suited up the kids who lived in their districts (the way it was intended to be)! All recruiting was left up to colleges ONLY!! [/quote]LOL!!!! Not true Abe!!!! Kids been changing addresses for[color=red] YEARS [/color]in the cities.  It wasn't a big deal back then and very easy to do. Yall were babies back then and weren't old enough to read the papers ;) Hmmm! Actually, in small towns too. Football back in 30's was full of "transfers" in those small towns.

[quote name="sasquare" post="1378883" timestamp="1361686366"] Many of you all have forgotten, that Silsbee has always been a top competitor. We battled Port Arthur Lincoln and Baycity  every year when we were 4aaaa. we consistently ranked in the top ten and made it to Austin several times along with going to regionals so many times can't count. Port Arthur Lincoln had talent like Yates every year. [/quote] Wow! My junior high which was a feeder school for Wheatley lost one game in (one)3 year span. WE were so good that we scrimmaged high schools. I bet thats why Wheatley is still winning  ::)

[quote name="Jy DeePotts" post="1378852" timestamp="1361677988"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=109733.msg1378472#msg1378472 date=1361597410] Ill be there live and in person again! Trust me Yayes crowd will be THIN! Its a work night and they dont travel outside of Houston well. [/quote] We sold out the State game in 2008 the first to ever do it [/quote]Not if you include Gregory Gym, you didn't  ;)

[quote name="STiger85" post="1378815" timestamp="1361673166"] Mark this down, Silsbee can beat yates! There's no doubt about it. Silsbee can match yates speed and has more depth. yates has tried to intimidate and scare Silsbee, don't think it worked. I don't think yates has any respect for Silsbee eather. That will be their mistake. yates heighth is one thing Silsbee can't match. How will yates handle Silsbee's speed and depth. Go over the top of them with their heighth? How will Silsbee handle yates's heighth. Use their speed and depth? It will be a tall hill for Silsbee to climb, but a hill Silsbee has climbed before. Go Tigers!!! [/quote]Yall barely beat Kashmere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::)

"Roll Tide" Congrats D. Thompson. Y'all must be in the Alabama backwoods.  Dad didn't answer his phone.

[quote name="uandme08" post="1378560" timestamp="1361633758"] Great job Panthers! I may be kinda biased but anybody that knows me knows I'm his worst critic. Big ups to Jakobi and Ducc for their senior leadership last night. Jakobi has impressed me the last 2 games finally being who the coaches have asked him to be. Great job Panthers! [/quote]Man, I must not have read this thread. I guess I've been keeping up with other teams. Anyway, I was mentioning this just today how Kobi is stepping up big time with his senior leadership. Ozen starts 3 sophomores and  2 seniors. To see the guys huddle up and talk between plays is very refreshing. Its the little things that creates the special magic.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1378536" timestamp="1361627718"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=109682.msg1378530#msg1378530 date=1361626252] Congrats on the big win, Big Ned.  Keep it going for 20-4a! [/quote]What can you tell us about Georgetown? They big? Quick? Patient? Aggressive? Sounds like they played a slow paced game. [/quote]Sounds like a well coached team.

And barely beat Kashmere  :-X

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1378045" timestamp="1361565691"] [quote author=Team Game link=topic=109663.msg1378007#msg1378007 date=1361562201] The communication on display during and after the game last night by the Yates guys was outstanding.  The vocabulary, just incredible!  The Reverend Yates would have been so proud. [/quote] Don't know you , but you are going to keep Rev. Jack Yates name out of your mouth...Don't know what you meant, don't care, but THAT name you need to not refer to in any negative way. So serious. [/quote]*Ouch*!

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1378028" timestamp="1361564146"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109609.msg1378021#msg1378021 date=1361563797] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109609.msg1377633#msg1377633 date=1361504333] I can see it now. Nederland vs Central in the reg. qtr. finals in the Montagne Center [/quote]Or will the Central & Nederland coaches haggle over another neutral site?  :D [/quote]Possibly! ;) Both gotta win tonight though!! [/quote]True!! But the atmosphere of a 4th rematch. Priceless

[quote name="BlueOwl" post="1377694" timestamp="1361509047"] It will be a tough game for Silsbee but I think they can pull off a upset! They just need to play Tiger basketball for all 4 quarters! [/quote]Just curious BlueOwl (hmmm Blue?) Have you ever seen Yates play?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1377633" timestamp="1361504333"] I can see it now. Nederland vs Central in the reg. qtr. finals in the Montagne Center [/quote]Or will the Central & Nederland coaches haggle over another neutral site?  :D

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1378011" timestamp="1361562765"] Who knew there were so many hard core Republicans on this board?  I mean, I would have never guessed that there were this many people in favor of school choice. [/quote]Hmmm! My brother from another momma just passed out cold!!!!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1377959" timestamp="1361558224"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109663.msg1377955#msg1377955 date=1361557987] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=109663.msg1377950#msg1377950 date=1361557540] Yates has a team full of recruits and a bully for a coach! Wise thinks he owns Houston. Yates isn't the best school in Houston. FB Bush, FB Travis, Seven Lakes, and North Shore are better without recruits every year! [/quote]Here's the difference: Those schools you named are NOT in Houston. They are in the suburbs. Do you live in Houston? No. You live in Cypress. [/quote] Could not have said it better myself, Abe!  And furthermore, North Shore and FB Bush are the ONLY LEGITIMATE PROGRAMS of the ones you named. The others are "IF a player lands there" driven. Watch how BAD FB Travis gets after this season... ;) [/quote] Travis will be like FB Eisenhower

[quote name="HFfan5" post="1377944" timestamp="1361556927"] If PN-G and Ned refuse feel free to send them out to Hamshire we'll take him  ;D [/quote]Now there is an honest person. ;)

[quote name="palincoln4life" post="1377953" timestamp="1361557909"] To be honest thats the level I am looking to tap into. Too many kids think since, Kentucky or Duke etc aren't recruiting me there is no place for me at the next level. When in fact NAIA and lower divisions offer kids an education and opportunity to play basketball at the college level. [/quote]Yes sir! Definitely needed for the kids.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1377951" timestamp="1361557755"] Dove-What do you know about Elgin? [/quote]Absolutely Nothing!!! ;D ;D

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1377924" timestamp="1361555936"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109587.msg1377915#msg1377915 date=1361555168] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109587.msg1377880#msg1377880 date=1361551546] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109587.msg1377749#msg1377749 date=1361540864] [quote author=Kountzer link=topic=109587.msg1377697#msg1377697 date=1361509745] Coach Brazos, Coach Carmen Stewart, Danny Thomas.  They were all at Lamar Fleming when I was there.  My cousins kept me up to date on them when I went back to Silsbee. [/quote]Actually, Coach Brazos, Stewart, & Yates were at E.O.Smith first, the feeder school for Wheatley. Danny attended Smith maybe one year and went to Fleming Junior. [/quote] I don't know if you knew this, but Coach Brazos was the SOLE REASON my father left Madison to go to Kashmere to coach. You know he was like a father to my dad...He told him about his pancreatic cancer, and asked that he come back to the north side and get that program where it needed to be, because it was in "bad shape"...My father never told anyone outside of family why he went there...Coach Brazos passed in September of 1999, and Stewart died last year... [/quote]Man, we could start a whole new thread on these people. Last time I saw Stewart :'( was in high school.  I'll never forget after he became a counselor,  he showed me a wad of money. He said "son, just stay in school." I stayed in school but still ain't had the money he had. ;)  And Frankie B,  :'( the man was like a God among basketball coaches. [/quote] Hey man, when Coach Brazos was still coaching at Kashmere, my sophmore season, we were playing against them in a tournament in Fort Worth, and I had hit four threes by halftime and had 16 points, but I don't think I took a shot after about the 3:00 minute mark in the 2nd qtr....This man CAME IN OUR LOCKER ROOM at halftime and started first fussing at my dad for not getting me the ball at the end of the half, THEN fussed at me about not taking over the game!! He said, "nevermind being a 10th grader, son, you need to KEEP SHOOTING the ball, BOY!! What is wrong with you, son? SHOOT IT!" I never forgot that moment, and I never will... ;D ;D [/quote]He was like a God ;)