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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1366523" timestamp="1359066550"] These are the Region III teams currently in the top 25 of the 4A TABC state polls: #1 Fort Bend Marshall #9 Houston Wheatley #10 Beaumont Central #16 Brazosport #17 Georgetown #24 Friendswood #25 Nederland By just taking those teams in consideration, I think Central has a good shot of repping Region III in Austin. [/quote] Man, somebody told me Region 3 in  4-A was wide open and now I see why he said it...

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1366509" timestamp="1359064309"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108406.msg1366505#msg1366505 date=1359064052] I wonder if Nederland can get by Livingston this Friday? [/quote] They'll win by 13. [/quote]13? Thats it? Whats wrong with Nederland?  ;D

I wonder if Nederland can get by Livingston this Friday?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1366500" timestamp="1359063365"] Could someone throw a breaker so that this game doesn't start till 9pm? I wouldn't mind making this game. [/quote] In other words, he needs more time to get to the refs before the game

smh 2

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366472" timestamp="1359059859"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108546.msg1366462#msg1366462 date=1359058429] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108546.msg1366457#msg1366457 date=1359057885] Agree.  Hopefully they will play better.  The game this Friday ought to provide a pretty good reading of whether or not they can upgrade their play. [/quote]What!!! Now if I had said what Dickie V said, Nash you would not have agreed  >:( 8) Your bias is showing :P :P [/quote] You busted me.  I am a racist. [/quote]And I thought blood was thicker than mud  :'(

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1366469" timestamp="1359059113"] I am always a basketball coach, however, I pride myself on being a scholar as well! ;D....Dove it has happened so much in Houston, its easy to spot in a place like Port Arthur! Remember a run down area called "The Heights"....Been there lately? Gentrification at it's finest...Once again...another topic for another day! ;) [/quote] I bet you haven't been to your paternal grandmother's neighborhood in awhile? LOL! Took you way back ol'skool on that one. Property taxes sky high, but thats another story  ;)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1366458" timestamp="1359057944"] Be interested in hearing why Freeze is not the coach at Central??  Great team, just needs a great coach. [/quote] I'm surprised I haven't heard about an email protest to fire the coach.

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1366450" timestamp="1359055833"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108474.msg1366443#msg1366443 date=1359053858] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=108474.msg1366437#msg1366437 date=1359053011] Soulja, you missed the point...Central is talented, but not THAT talented to win without being WELL coached through the playoffs...in 1999, David Green did a great job of guiding them through the region and they were blessed at the end and a little luck pushed them over the hump....in 2007, Boutte did a MASTERFUL job with that team...They were not the most talented in the region BY FAR that season, but made it to the state championship game.  Central is young and talented...But really not THAT good...yet. ;) [/quote]Its going in one ear out the other. Central people  ::) [/quote] HEY NOW, I'm a Central guy to but I know they not going to Austin. [/quote] Yeah I know, and the only one of Central associates who know the truth  ;D

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366463" timestamp="1359058519"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=108406.msg1366455#msg1366455 date=1359057751] [quote author=Coach85 link=topic=108406.msg1366408#msg1366408 date=1359047692] If there are kids that have transferred from PAM to Nederland they do not have to be recruited. There is an area around the Central Mall/Stone Gate area that is zoned to where a family can opt to choose to go to either PAM or Ned. If these kids did leave PAM to go to Ned maybe because they weren't getting enough playing time at PAM then if they live in this certain zone then nothing is wrong with it. Why do you think PAISD was so adamant about building the high school where they built it.....To try and attract more of those kids from that area? [/quote] Good guess, but I can tell you thats NOT why the school is there.  They are wanting the West Side of Port Arthur to die, make the younger families move toward the mall area, re-build the West Side and downtown PA, so that the Lamar State area and Pleasure Island become more "attractive areas" again, if you know what I mean...But thats for another topic for another day.... ;) [/quote] Dickie- Sounds like you were a member of the city planning committee [/quote]probably studied[color=red] HIS[/color] history more than attended the planning committee

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1366455" timestamp="1359057751"] [quote author=Coach85 link=topic=108406.msg1366408#msg1366408 date=1359047692] If there are kids that have transferred from PAM to Nederland they do not have to be recruited. There is an area around the Central Mall/Stone Gate area that is zoned to where a family can opt to choose to go to either PAM or Ned. If these kids did leave PAM to go to Ned maybe because they weren't getting enough playing time at PAM then if they live in this certain zone then nothing is wrong with it. Why do you think PAISD was so adamant about building the high school where they built it.....To try and attract more of those kids from that area? [/quote] Good guess, but I can tell you thats NOT why the school is there.  They are wanting the West Side of Port Arthur to die, make the younger families move toward the mall area, re-build the West Side and downtown PA, so that the Lamar State area and Pleasure Island become more "attractive areas" again, if you know what I mean...But thats for another topic for another day.... ;) [/quote]Simply brilliant!!!

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366457" timestamp="1359057885"] Agree.  Hopefully they will play better.  The game this Friday ought to provide a pretty good reading of whether or not they can upgrade their play. [/quote]What!!! Now if I had said what Dickie V said, Nash you would not have agreed  >:( 8) Your bias is showing :P :P

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1366437" timestamp="1359053011"] Soulja, you missed the point...Central is talented, but not THAT talented to win without being WELL coached through the playoffs...in 1999, David Green did a great job of guiding them through the region and they were blessed at the end and a little luck pushed them over the hump....in 2007, Boutte did a MASTERFUL job with that team...They were not the most talented in the region BY FAR that season, but made it to the state championship game.  Central is young and talented...But really not THAT good...yet. ;) [/quote]Its going in one ear out the other. Central people  ::)

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366438" timestamp="1359053375"] Of course they can match up with HJ.  Hj hasnt played anybody and they run cross country.  Thats a recipe for disaster. [/quote]You said that. I didn't!!! ;D

I think WO-S can take HJ.                          I think HJ can take WO-S. Should be a good game. But don't take WO-S lightly. I think they can match up with HJ.

Congrats to this young man and the hard work he has put in to reach this achievement. Keep grinding!!!!

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366414" timestamp="1359048467"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108474.msg1366404#msg1366404 date=1359046980] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108474.msg1366397#msg1366397 date=1359045462] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108474.msg1366389#msg1366389 date=1359044898] Man, yall done put it out there. Central players got so cocky (and a few fans  :P ) that they knew they were going to Austin to play for the title. [/quote] The reason they felt they were going to Austin was because Da Dove kept telling everyone that was what was going to happen.  At that point in time, Da Dove was the #1 prognosticator, but has dropped back to #2 behind Soulja. [/quote]Nash, the truth can be told now, and you know this already  :P Central got so cocky and I was trying to say it on here but peeps were in denial. Central was slapped/stunned/ castrated/ hysterectomized  last Tuesday night. [/quote] Pretty strong words, Dove, for a game that had to go to overtime.  If all those words are accurate, do you maintain your Austin prediction for the Jags? [/quote]Not that many Central people on here anyway. ;D I'm jabbing at Souljah1

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366397" timestamp="1359045462"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108474.msg1366389#msg1366389 date=1359044898] Man, yall done put it out there. Central players got so cocky (and a few fans  :P ) that they knew they were going to Austin to play for the title. [/quote] The reason they felt they were going to Austin was because Da Dove kept telling everyone that was what was going to happen.  At that point in time, Da Dove was the #1 prognosticator, but has dropped back to #2 behind Soulja. [/quote]Nash, the truth can be told now, and you know this already  :P Central got so cocky and I was trying to say it on here but peeps were in denial. Central was slapped/stunned/ castrated/ hysterectomized  last Tuesday night.

Win and they shall follow!!

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1366388" timestamp="1359044520"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=108474.msg1366379#msg1366379 date=1359043253] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108474.msg1366373#msg1366373 date=1359042461] So, is there no coaching involved in big tournament games or big district battles?  Is there no strategy involved in this?  So,  coaches and teams decide to coach ONLY when the playoffs begin?  I'm just trying to understand... [/quote] Believe it or not, Soulja, the playoffs are an ENTIRELY different animal..at ALL levels..You are not going to be able to out talent ANYONE, unless your team is just THAT much more superior talent wise, and Central is certainly not that.  They are young, and they are talented...BUT..When the playoffs hit, they will be exposed. Sorry, man, just calling it how I see it.  8) [/quote] Just playing devils advocate, man.  Remember, I wasn't the one screaming Central being state bound.  ;)  But you and I know that if you get hot and lucky  at the right time, good things can happen.  Isn't that what happened with the 99 Jags and the 07 Panthers? [/quote] In other words (from Souljah1) "yeah I hear yall but we got all this talent and been winning all this time. So we must be going to Austin. And remember, we beat Yates in the Fall League."  ::) ::)

Man, yall done put it out there. Central players got so cocky (and a few fans  :P ) that they knew they were going to Austin to play for the title.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1366343" timestamp="1359037436"] I agree with everything you said....  Except ONE thing.  Catman makes NO sense. 8) [/quote] It was a "PR moment," trust me. ;D

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1366340" timestamp="1359036979"] Dove- are you rescinding your prediction that the Jags are going to Austin or are you going to take the other approach (aka HF 2012 state champs) and deny that you ever said it? [/quote]I did say Central would go to Austin-

[quote name="Ty Cobb" post="1366344" timestamp="1359037731"] Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading.  Do you guys really think that Lamar should sign players just because they live and played high school football in SE Texas?  I promise you everyone that plays in SE Texas is NOT college football material.  There are some very good players that come from this area but that doesn't mean they are good enough to play college football, or maybe they are good enough to play college ball but they don't fit Lamar's scheme. Raiderblue, you said the following, "We have great home grown talent and can't get these yo yo's to sign them."  Are you joking?  Here's Lamar's 2012 roster.  Let's see how many players they have from SE Texas. Lamar Cardinals Roster - 2012 2012 Lamar Cardinals NO NAME POS HT WT CLASS HOMETOWN 0 Jacory Augustine DB 6-3 190 FR LAKE CHARLES, LA 0 Colby Carpenter DB 6-0 180 SO [b]BRIDGE CITY, TX[/b] 0 David Dunkin QB 5-11 190 FR AUSTIN, TX 1 Nashon Davis DB 6-3 205 JR KATY, TX 2 Blake Chavis LB 6-5 235 SR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 3 Barry Ford WR 6-1 175 JR HOUSTON, TX 4 Tyrus McGlothen DB 5-8 175 JR GRAND PRAIRIE, TX 5 Marcus Malbrough LB 6-5 245 SR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 5 Ryan Mossakowski QB 6-4 215 JR FRISCO, TX 6 Jordan Garrett DB 6-1 200 SR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 7 Steven Murray-Sesay DB 5-9 170 SR FORT WASHINGTON, MD 8 Mike Venson RB 5-9 160 JR KATY, TX 9 Mike Hargis LB 6-3 225 FR AUSTIN, TX 10 Jermaine Longino LB 5-10 220 JR HOUSTON, TX 11 Kevin Johnson WR 6-0 210 SO HOUSTON, TX 12 Caleb Berry QB 6-2 195 SO NEEDVILLE, TX 13 Kye Hildreth WR 6-1 175 JR NAVASOTA, TX 14 DePauldrick Garrett RB 5-8 190 JR [b]ORANGE, TX[/b] 15 Oluwajimi Oyefeso WR 6-3 215 JR PASADENA, TX 17 Dillon Barrett QB 6-3 220 FR DRY PRONG, LA 18 Davion Wolford WR 5-11 170 SO STAFFORD, TX 19 Matt Bergeron QB 5-11 180 FR MANDEVILLE, LA 19 Keinon Peterson DB 5-8 190 JR DICKINSON, TX 20 Michael Handy WR 5-11 185 FR CONROE, TX 21 Branden Thomas DB 5-9 170 JR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 23 Payton Ploch WR 6-2 215 JR [b]DAYTON, TX[/b] 24 Jacob Hanna TE 6-0 220 JR [b]LUMBERTON, TX[/b] 25 Gratian Gladney WR 5-9 165 FR HOUSTON, TX 25 Kollin Kahler P 6-2 200 JR WACO, TX 26 Chad Allen DB 5-11 190 JR [b]COLDSPRING, TX[/b] 27 Caleb Harmon RB 5-9 200 JR [b]PORT NECHES, TX[/b] 28 Herschel Sims RB 5-8 215 SO ABILENE, TX 29 Adrian Guillory DB 5-10 160 SR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 30 Darrell Harris RB 5-11 185 FR WACO, TX 30 George Orebe DB 5-9 165 SO HOUSTON, TX 31 Juventino Sanchez K 6-0 205 SR BLOOMING GROVE, TX 32 Anthony Beard LB 6-1 235 SO [b]LUMBERTON, TX[/b] 33 Desmond Richards RB 5-9 170 FR MONTGOMERY, TX 34 Josh Wilson DB 5-7 185 SO [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 35 Joe Okafor DL 6-6 295 SO BELLAIRE, TX 36 Stephone Mercer DB 5-9 170 SR AUSTIN, TX 37 Courtlin Thompson DB 6-1 210 JR LANCASTER, CA 38 Garrett Drake WR 6-2 185 FR [b]SILSBEE, TX[/b] 39 Justin Stout K 6-1 170 JR MESQUITE, TX 40 Xavier Bethany DB 6-1 180 FR BURTON, TX 41 Jestin White LB 6-4 190 SO HOUSTON, TX 42 Joseph Viator LB 5-9 190 SR [b]ORANGE, TX[/b] 43 Chris Maikranz LS 6-6 255 JR SUGAR LAND, TX 44 Ronnie Jones Jr. LB 5-10 240 FR HEMPSTEAD, TX 45 Joshua James LB 5-10 190 SO [b]SILSBEE, TX[/b] 46 Alex Ball K 6-3 240 FR WESTLAKE VILLAGE, CA 47 P.J. Henderson TE 6-3 220 JR AUSTIN, TX 48 Lawson Hartwick LS 5-11 255 SO FORNEY, TX 49 William Jones LB 5-10 225 JR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 50 Sean Robertson OL 6-1 270 SR COPPERAS COVE, TX 52 Joe Persohn OL 6-4 225 FR [b]SOUR LAKE, TX[/b] 53 David Hollyfield DL 6-3 225 FR [b]SILSBEE, TX[/b] 54 James Washington LB 5-11 225 JR HOUSTON, TX 55 Luke Campbell OL 6-4 270 FR RUSK, TX 56 Kameron Edwards OL 6-2 275 SR SACRAMENTO, CA 56 John Prescott DL 6-0 300 SR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 57 Jeremy Kirt DL 6-1 265 JR HOUSTON, TX 58 Bret Treadway OL 6-3 250 FR [b]SILSBEE, T[/b]X 61 Colton Collins OL 6-3 275 SR AUSTIN, TX 62 Garrett Baxley OL 6-6 235 FR KINGWOOD, TX 64 Kyle Gillam OL 6-1 270 JR [b]LUMBERTON, TX[/b] 65 Ryan Jones OL 6-4 275 SR [b]KIRBYVILLE, TX[/b] 66 Marshall Fairchild OL 6-4 290 JR GONZALES, TX 67 Ian Kelso OL 6-0 280 JR AUSTIN, TX 70 Stephen Babin OL 6-4 315 JR BELLVILLE, TX 71 Patrick Carlton OL 6-3 275 SR [b]BRIDGE CITY, TX[/b] 72 Brock Wempa OL 6-2 345 JR ROYSE CITY, TX 73 Scott Utterback OL 6-1 290 SO [b]VIDOR, TX[/b] 75 Taylor Davis OL 6-3 290 JR PLANO, TX 76 Justin Brock OL 6-5 280 FR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 80 Cory Soto TE 6-8 255 JR CARDIFF BY THE SEA, CA 81 Jesse Sparks WR 5-10 170 SO [b]LUMBERTON, TX[/b] 82 Reggie Begelton WR 6-0 190 FR [b]BEAUMONT, TX[/b] 83 VanLawrance Franks WR 5-5 135 SR AUSTIN, TX 84 Jayce Nelson WR 6-2 170 FR [b]PORT NECHES, TX[/b] 85 Adren Dorsey DL 6-3 275 SR TYLER, TX 86 Jordan Edwards WR 5-11 180 JR HOUSTON, TX 87 Zach Sonnier WR 6-1 185 FR [b]ORANGE, TX[/b] 88 Payden McVey TE 6-1 225 SO DEER PARK, TX 89 Kelechi Ejekam WR 6-3 190 FR HOUSTON, TX 90 Mark Murrill DL 6-2 255 JR [b]LUMBERTON, TX[/b] 91 Logan Moss DL 6-4 210 FR [b]ORANGEFIELD, TX[/b] 92 Eric Arnold DL 5-11 250 SO [b]ORANGE, TX[/b] 93 Jesse Dickson DE 6-3 265 JR HOUSTON, TX 98 Marcus Washington DL 6-3 295 SO HOUSTON, TX 99 Corbin Carr DL 6-3 245 FR [b]NEDERLAND, TX[/b] Lamar has 91 players listed on this roster and 34 of them are from SE Texas.  I'm not great in math but I would say that SE Texas players make up somewhere between 35% and 40% of the roster. What more do you want? [/quote]Ouch! Case closed!!!

WOW! I looked at the 2013 class just for Houston. As populated  as Houston is,  the pickings are slim for pg's as far as the major D1's. Taylor was the next best in his class and position after the Harrison twins. So, for the next few years, we might see kids getting major D1 offers (like Taylor) who in a normal good recruiting year would not get them.