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[quote name="5 on 5" post="1362265" timestamp="1357771933"] Soulja what defense did Ozen play against Central? [/quote]ASK ME!!!! What you asking Souljah1 for???????  ;D

[quote name="ram0524" post="1362257" timestamp="1357770930"] Nederland will have to keep making the 3. I think we will, so Ned by at least 5. The crowed is going to be a factor. The dome will be loud come Friday night. The Bulldog players feed from the crowd. [/quote] Nederland will not make any 3's if Ozen plays man!!!!!

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1362256" timestamp="1357770428"] Weisbrod is the defending offensive MVP of the district and until proven otherwise, he will remain a task for anyone to stop.  Ozen does have speed and athleticism to slow him down as a team, but as someone have pointed out, what do you do with little English?  I'm very interested in knowing.  I think I'll attend this game. [/quote] I'm almost sure that Weisbrod, English and that group have never beaten a team I've been associated with since the 5th grade thru last summer. So I don't see why the streak can't continue Friday.

So, yall saying if Ozen (happens to) win, it will be an upset? Hold on a minute, let me make sure I'm not on the football forum before I post this.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1362243" timestamp="1357766866"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108075.msg1362239#msg1362239 date=1357766462] (14.3%)Nederland (85.7% Ozen Voting Results as of 3:30 p.m. [/quote]I think you have that backwards. We would rather be the Under'Dawgs' though! [/quote]Abe, I tried!!! :D

(14.3%)Nederland (85.7% Ozen Voting Results as of 3:30 p.m.

Oh yeah, I forgot about them.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1362203" timestamp="1357761760"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108075.msg1362125#msg1362125 date=1357750907] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108075.msg1362117#msg1362117 date=1357749949] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108075.msg1362109#msg1362109 date=1357749030] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362102#msg1362102 date=1357747968] Ozen's only hope is if they have a  kid on their roster that  has the size and strength to check Weisbrod.  I think the transition game will also be key as well.  They'll need to force turnovers to make this happen. [/quote]Good analysis! I couldn't agree more... [/quote] Ozen has some D1 prospects on the team. I am sure one of them can gaurd him.  ::)  ::) [/quote] All Ozen needs is a player with a high defensive basketball IQ to guard Weisbrod. Simple process: Know his moves and take a couple of charges from him. If Ozen had Brandon Green, this game would be a a wrap. [/quote] Where is Brandon Green?  Does he know something about Weisbrod that the rest of the "basketball market" does not know.?  If somebody "knows his moves" does that mean he will be stopped?  Seems like everyone "knows" the moves of Carmelo, Kobe, and LeBron but I cant recall them being stopped.  If a player seems to almost always go to his right, would that mean that a defender who overplays the right might be giving up too much of the left? [/quote] B. Green has the size, speed, athleticism, and IQ to hang with Weisbrod. But, if Ozen can keep Weisbrod to 15 points, Ozen is still in the game. My (new)voodoo doll will take care of the rest  ;D

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1362102" timestamp="1357747968"] Ozen's only hope is if they have a  kid on their roster that  has the size and strength to check Weisbrod.  I think the transition game will also be key as well.  They'll need to force turnovers to make this happen. [/quote] Not if Weisbrod gets into foul trouble  ;)

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1362144" timestamp="1357753877"] Since we BOTH perform Voodoo, then it will cancel out! ;) [/quote]I had to exchange my first voodoo doll after hearing English played last night 8)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1362133" timestamp="1357752481"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108075.msg1362117#msg1362117 date=1357749949] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108075.msg1362109#msg1362109 date=1357749030] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362102#msg1362102 date=1357747968] Ozen's only hope is if they have a  kid on their roster that  has the size and strength to check Weisbrod.  I think the transition game will also be key as well.  They'll need to force turnovers to make this happen. [/quote]Good analysis! I couldn't agree more... [/quote] Ozen has some D1 prospects on the team. I am sure one of them can gaurd him.  ::)  ::) [/quote] D-1 prospects?  What,Hunter?  You really want Hunter holding Weisbrod? IMO, he's the only d-1 prospect on the team... [/quote] Lets just pray that Weisbrod has an off night or the voodoo doll really works Friday night. ;)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1362104" timestamp="1357748433"] I don't think Lumberton have ever made the playoffs.  Wouldn't that be something... [/quote] You never know what an upset like this will do to the winning team and their future games.

OMG!!! Perfect example of mind over matter. Last night I read this same thread and (to me) it read Livingston 63/ Lumberton 53.  ;D  Way to go Lumberton

It's over? I gotta start paying more attention.

[quote name="DJANGO" post="1362127" timestamp="1357751187"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108075.msg1362125#msg1362125 date=1357750907] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108075.msg1362117#msg1362117 date=1357749949] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108075.msg1362109#msg1362109 date=1357749030] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362102#msg1362102 date=1357747968] Ozen's only hope is if they have a  kid on their roster that  has the size and strength to check Weisbrod.  I think the transition game will also be key as well.  They'll need to force turnovers to make this happen. [/quote]Good analysis! I couldn't agree more... [/quote] Ozen has some D1 prospects on the team. I am sure one of them can gaurd him.  ::)  ::) [/quote] All Ozen needs is a player with a high defensive basketball IQ to guard Weisbrod. Simple process: Know his moves and take a couple of charges from him. If Ozen had Brandon Green, this game would be a a wrap. [/quote][color=blue][/color] I sure miss B Green [/quote]Very high basketball IQ  ;)

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1362117" timestamp="1357749949"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108075.msg1362109#msg1362109 date=1357749030] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362102#msg1362102 date=1357747968] Ozen's only hope is if they have a  kid on their roster that  has the size and strength to check Weisbrod.  I think the transition game will also be key as well.  They'll need to force turnovers to make this happen. [/quote]Good analysis! I couldn't agree more... [/quote] Ozen has some D1 prospects on the team. I am sure one of them can gaurd him.  ::)  ::) [/quote] All Ozen needs is a player with a high defensive basketball IQ to guard Weisbrod. Simple process: Know his moves and take a couple of charges from him. If Ozen had Brandon Green, this game would be a a wrap.

[quote name="RuffRaider" post="1361745" timestamp="1357618973"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108007.msg1361690#msg1361690 date=1357612551] ...and I think they have the talent to pull off a couple of upsets! [/quote] They have the talent to be pretty good. Talent is not their problem. [/quote] I agree, talent is not their problem. North Shore in their district is their problem. Then that district eventually has to face  FT. Bend County with Travis & Bush. Thats WB's problem.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1361580" timestamp="1357578756"] IMO, size is everything.  You ave a really good player standing 5'11".  You have another player at 6'8" that can do the SAME THING and I'll guarantee you the D-1 college will go after the taller kid.  They don't want to say this, but this is true since you can NEVER teach height... [/quote]Here is the downside to your analogy. You don't find many "bigs" who can play a guard spot..they grow up thinking they are going to be on the block because thats what they played in biddy ball to high school.........so, many can't handle the ball, no footwork, and pg's are born, not made ;)

[quote name="utfan06" post="1361610" timestamp="1357584592"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=107985.msg1361606#msg1361606 date=1357584438] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=107985.msg1361601#msg1361601 date=1357583472] If he grows any look for freshman Grayland arnold to have some potential [/quote]If you want to get any serious looks from the majors it will help in the recruiting process by selling your soul..errr being recruited those shoe sponsored elite summer teams. The true elite teams will play against the top talent in the country. The college coaches will be there to watch certain players in those major tourneys. Go out and perform well.  Even if he doesn't grow  ;) [/quote] Im not sure what select team he plays fot..but im pretty sure its in Houston.. [/quote] Depends on what team in Houston. If your a Freshman now, this summer is your intro session. Coming into your pre- junior summer season, its all business in the summer.

[quote name="utfan06" post="1361601" timestamp="1357583472"] If he grows any look for freshman Grayland arnold to have some potential [/quote]If you want to get any serious looks from the majors it will help in the recruiting process by [s]selling your soul.[/s].errr being recruited those shoe sponsored elite summer teams. The true elite teams will play against the top talent in the country. The college coaches will be there to watch certain players in those major tourneys. Go out and perform well.  Even if he doesn't grow  ;)

[quote name="jabu84" post="1361602" timestamp="1357583653"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=107985.msg1361475#msg1361475 date=1357513404] First, these kids have to qualify academically. This will be the first major hurdle before we can expect them to move on to Major or Mid D-1's [/quote] most of these kids are mid to low d1 dove. But your right biggest problem now a days is most do not qualify . [/quote]Yep!!

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1361598" timestamp="1357582325"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107985.msg1361590#msg1361590 date=1357580374] Zach has potential, but he better hit the weights and start doing more ball handling skills when basketball season is over......  [/quote]I've been preaching the same thing about the weight room. Basketball has become more physical than finesse. His ball handling skills are as good as anyone in our area. He played point last year, but is playing the '2' this year. He doesn't have the explosiveness to play PG at a D1 school, IMO. He's a shooter though, and that's why he's getting a lot of looks. He's aggressive on offense, but he need to step up his defensive aggression. If he were better physically developed, that would definitely help. [/quote]Yes, you said the magic word, "shooter." If you are guard and can score, thats major check marks

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1361580" timestamp="1357578756"] IMO, size is everything.  You ave a really good player standing 5'11".  You have another player at 6'8" that can do the SAME THING and I'll guarantee you the D-1 college will go after the taller kid.  They don't want to say this, but this is true since you can NEVER teach height... [/quote] I saw a 6'7" (2014) kid playing point guard for a team in NY. He has the size and skill set to play guard. H e will have no problem being recruited. But, there is a market for small guards who can shoot, create their own shots and play some defense. You very seldom see bigger guards posting on the smaller guards in college...hmmmm? I wonder why?

[quote name="indian15/16" post="1361581" timestamp="1357578920"] Guys it's right there in the topic heading "HOUSTON" Madison. ::) If it were Dallas Madison, I'd still be talking about. With the exception of the Bmnt Kelly hickup, the Indians are starting to play some really good basketball.  :) :) [/quote]But I wanted to continue with Dallas Madison ;D

[quote name="indian15/16" post="1361585" timestamp="1357579486"] I've seen the Fox kid twice this season. Saw him hang 50 on Nimitz. He's got to be the best freshman in the greater Houston are, if not the state. If there's a better one, I sure would like to see him play. [/quote] You get no argument from me  ;)