BLUEDOVE3

Ruining my rep. Nash is bring me down. Next, I'll be applying for entitlement tickets to Austin

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1295407" timestamp="1349795189"] Never, EVER, express in writing that you and I agree on anything [/quote] I actually thought about that before I hit the *send button*

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1295384" timestamp="1349794138"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=101649.msg1295382#msg1295382 date=1349794072] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=101649.msg1295376#msg1295376 date=1349793499] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=101649.msg1295344#msg1295344 date=1349791306] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=101649.msg1295100#msg1295100 date=1349741874] I said before that Nederlands strength is their fundamentals and discipline.....let me add composure and coaching. I think Nederland will still be the team to beat in 20 4A however I think this district battle will be a lot of fun. Ned team returns with no major changes however the dynamics at Central and Ozen have changed. [/quote] It will be fun to watch this district race. I will never count Nederland out because they will be in the hunt. As you said, strong in fundamentals & discipline, as well as the other possible playoff teams ;) Central is already talking about *State* this season. [/quote] I suspect there are a lot of teams in Texas who are already talking about "state" this season. [/quote]Some *talk* and others [s]think [/s] errr know they are going [/quote] Right now, all "talk" and all "think" is simply speculation. [/quote]And its a fact I don't disagree with you

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1295374" timestamp="1349793197"] Yates 105 HJ 57 [/quote]LOL! And one of the HJ players will have 37 of those points all by himself. :o

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1295376" timestamp="1349793499"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=101649.msg1295344#msg1295344 date=1349791306] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=101649.msg1295100#msg1295100 date=1349741874] I said before that Nederlands strength is their fundamentals and discipline.....let me add composure and coaching. I think Nederland will still be the team to beat in 20 4A however I think this district battle will be a lot of fun. Ned team returns with no major changes however the dynamics at Central and Ozen have changed. [/quote] It will be fun to watch this district race. I will never count Nederland out because they will be in the hunt. As you said, strong in fundamentals & discipline, as well as the other possible playoff teams ;) Central is already talking about *State* this season. [/quote] I suspect there are a lot of teams in Texas who are already talking about "state" this season. [/quote]Some *talk* and others [s]think [/s] errr know they are going

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1295100" timestamp="1349741874"] I said before that Nederlands strength is their fundamentals and discipline.....let me add composure and coaching. I think Nederland will still be the team to beat in 20 4A however I think this district battle will be a lot of fun. Ned team returns with no major changes however the dynamics at Central and Ozen have changed. [/quote] It will be fun to watch this district race. I will never count Nederland out because they will be in the hunt. As you said, strong in fundamentals & discipline, as well as the other possible playoff teams ;) Central is already talking about *State* this season.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1295044" timestamp="1349736481"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=101649.msg1295040#msg1295040 date=1349736232] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=101649.msg1295029#msg1295029 date=1349735345] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=101649.msg1295019#msg1295019 date=1349734608] I'll take experience and teamwork over "athleticism" any day of the week.  8) [/quote] Nope, you are wrong.  Times have changed and quickness/speed/jumping ability shall determine most outcomes. :-X [/quote]Just like how the speed/athleticism of Ozen was too much for Vidor Friday night on the FB field? Oh wait, it was Vidor who won that game! Hmmm??  :P [/quote] It just defies logic doesn't it lmao.  ;) [/quote]Basketball IQ and football IQ -can't compare the two sports.

[quote name="86hawk" post="1295304" timestamp="1349788571"] [quote author=mfd814 link=topic=103986.msg1295120#msg1295120 date=1349744339] I had the pleasure of spending most of the summer with Sadiq,he looks older, but if you knew him, he is just like any other high school student. [/quote] Not trying to bash the player or his character.  Just looks a lot older than the other kids on the court.  What i saw, he handled himself well and appeared to be the leader on the court.  He was fouled hard a couple of times, but didn't think a thing of it and shot his free throws.  Is he the top player on the team? [/quote]No! Not yet!!! But will probably be "da man" next year.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1295324" timestamp="1349789761"] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=103986.msg1295304#msg1295304 date=1349788571] [quote author=mfd814 link=topic=103986.msg1295120#msg1295120 date=1349744339] I had the pleasure of spending most of the summer with Sadiq,he looks older, but if you knew him, he is just like any other high school student. [/quote] Not trying to bash the player or his character.  Just looks a lot older than the other kids on the court.  What i saw, he handled himself well and appeared to be the leader on the court.  He was fouled hard a couple of times, but didn't think a thing of it and shot his free throws.  Is he the top player on the team? [/quote] Is this a Yates player that you are discussing? [/quote]Yes!

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1294993" timestamp="1349732084"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=101649.msg1294931#msg1294931 date=1349727484] The biggest thing working against the Beaumont schools is the fact that Nederland just isn't scared to play them anymore.. Nederland is used to not only beating them, but going on to winning district or sharing it.. The group returning is full of seniors who can compete with anyone when the stakes are high enough.. They got plenty of weapons, tons of skill, all the experience, [b]yet they are [b]still[/b] suppose to be a notch below central, and even ozen...[/b] Brian will have these bulldogs ready to make a run! Regardless of what people want to believe [/quote]BD3 just trying to start stuff with us bc he knows you, me, and 5on5 will defend our Dawgs to the end. Central folks won't argue with him, so he tries to get us excited, and I'm okay with that.  ;) He won't admit it, but deep down, he knows Nederland has a good chance for a 4th straight District Title.  8) The difference between our team from last year is experience and confidence. Last year, we returned 0 starters, and only 2 players who came off the bench who contributed (English and Weisbrod). This year, we return 4 starters and 5 others who played Varsity last year. Expectations are high in Big Ned, and I believe these kids are up to the challenge. [/quote]Lol! I thought you wrote, " he knows Nederland has a good chance ..... for a 4th spot."  Sorry!

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1294931" timestamp="1349727484"] The biggest thing working against the Beaumont schools is the fact that Nederland just isn't scared to play them anymore.. Nederland is used to not only beating them, but going on to winning district or sharing it.. The group returning is full of seniors who can compete with anyone when the stakes are high enough.. They got plenty of weapons, tons of skill, all the experience, yet they are still suppose to be a notch below central, and even ozen... Brian will have these bulldogs ready to make a run! Regardless of what people want to believe [/quote]See, those are the [s]Wilson.[/s].errr Bulldogs I know. The gym will be once again packed to see if Central can hold off the mad Bulldogs.

Nash is a true republican. Always putting a spin to something. I am only referring to Nederland for this year. Central's  quickness, speed, skill and overall talent will give Nederland fits this year.

[quote name="86hawk" post="1294909" timestamp="1349726105"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=103986.msg1294815#msg1294815 date=1349720290] UIL just ruled on his (Sadiq) grades and credits. He is considered a junior. Has an extra year to play high school. [/quote] a Junior??? in what country?  i saw this guy Saturday, and like i said, he looks 30 years old.  Guy could walk into any liquor store in Houston and walk out with his favorite beverage and not be questioned.  I did like seeing the full court press from the opening tip.  i like that.  come out aggressive and put the opposing team on point right away.  With the lack of quality ball handlers (don't work on fundamentals enough IMO) turn overs leads to easy basket.  Not shocked to see them score tons of points. [/quote]LOL! You're saying this because he is balding  ;D But true. UIL just made a ruling on his eligibility this week.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1294845" timestamp="1349722307"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=101649.msg1294843#msg1294843 date=1349722071] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=101649.msg1294834#msg1294834 date=1349721819] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=101649.msg1294796#msg1294796 date=1349719609] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=101649.msg1294787#msg1294787 date=1349719097] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I think the athletecism theory ( at least at the high school level) is not nearly as important as some think it is.  Being the fastest player on the court or the highest jumper assures one of very little. [/quote]No, but I think when you come across "da quickest player(s) ALONG WITH  having  a high basketball IQ does make a difference ;) [/quote] Of course it will, but unless the other 4 players are also in the same category, there are ways to counter the speed/quickness of a single player.  My experience suggests to me that most of those endowed with that much quickness tend to not fully develop that IQ of which you speak because the quickness has always separated them from everyone else.  I am speaking, of course, about junior high and high school players.  Nederland and HJ would seem to validate my theory, don't you think? [/quote]In past years, yes!!!  ;D [/quote] So my theory "used" to be valid but not anymore?  Please elaborate or is this just another " I "heard" a billionaire gave money to Obama" comment? [/quote]Times change!

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1294834" timestamp="1349721819"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=101649.msg1294796#msg1294796 date=1349719609] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=101649.msg1294787#msg1294787 date=1349719097] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I think the athletecism theory ( at least at the high school level) is not nearly as important as some think it is.  Being the fastest player on the court or the highest jumper assures one of very little. [/quote]No, but I think when you come across "da quickest player(s) ALONG WITH  having  a high basketball IQ does make a difference ;) [/quote] Of course it will, but unless the other 4 players are also in the same category, there are ways to counter the speed/quickness of a single player.  My experience suggests to me that most of those endowed with that much quickness tend to not fully develop that IQ of which you speak because the quickness has always separated them from everyone else.  I am speaking, of course, about junior high and high school players.  Nederland and HJ would seem to validate my theory, don't you think? [/quote]In past years, yes!!!  ;D

Yates also seemed to have a problem with Clear Springs yesterday.....Yates won 63-57. We lost to Clear Springs by 2 points and would have played Yates if we had won this game.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1294804" timestamp="1349719928"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=103986.msg1294798#msg1294798 date=1349719702] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=103986.msg1294795#msg1294795 date=1349719486] Is it really true that Central with only 6 or 7 players, beat Yates with 25?  Hmmm- is it the "slightest" possibility that Yates is not as impressive as they are "painted" on this board? [/quote] Yates wins on [b]defense[/b]  and  :-X [/quote]From an eye witness who was at the game, Central had no problem with their 'defense'/press. Maybe Wise is the X factor in which you are keeping silent about? [/quote]The other teams did. But Yates had a problem prior to playing Yates

UIL just ruled on his (Sadiq) grades and credits. He is considered a junior. Has an extra year to play high school.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1294795" timestamp="1349719486"] Is it really true that Central with only 6 or 7 players, beat Yates with 25?  Hmmm- is it the "slightest" possibility that Yates is not as impressive as they are "painted" on this board? [/quote] Yates wins on defense  and  :-X

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1294787" timestamp="1349719097"] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I think the athletecism theory ( at least at the high school level) is not nearly as important as some think it is.  Being the fastest player on the court or the highest jumper assures one of very little. [/quote]No, but I think when you come across "da quickest player(s) ALONG WITH  having  a high basketball IQ does make a difference ;)

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1294772" timestamp="1349718268"] One of them was not all of them. Its just like last year when they could have played for the district title outright but instead let Nederland go in as the 1st seed. And again they chose to go there with 6 players and at the end of the day are you satisfied with just showing up and beating Yates.The mentality has to change amongst our young athletes, are we teaching them that if you win a couple of games and beat a great team its ok if you dont play wanna anymore ,cause you proved your point. [/quote]You let the secret out, I was hoping Central would continue this type of attitude leading into their district play :D Keep hope alive!!

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1294720" timestamp="1349714094"] Please gentleman don't read too much into the whole super16 extravaganza. Yes it was a competitive tournament but playing in these types of games without the real head coaches means nothing. We all know the head coaches will put players where they should be and not where they wanna be. Still congrats to Central, proud of them they represented for SETX. [/quote]Good points! I'm really proud of Central. I keep telling my hometown people in Houston S.E.Tex has some young talent coming. As huge as Houston is in basketball population, S.E.Texas has numerous players ranked with Houston area players. Good job Central.

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1294723" timestamp="1349714189"] Bluedove I'll find out from my source be back in a few...hopefully...lol [/quote] ;)

Was told by a reliable source that Wheatley is coming to YMBL in December. Any other non-local teams  being thrown around who agreed to play?

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1294568" timestamp="1349705342"] Then perhaps we can look at it another way.  Another way, in fact, that you ought to relish.  Since Yates would beat HJ by 30 or 40, can we conclude that Central will beat Hj by at least 35 or 45 if they meet in their early season game as they have the last several years? [/quote]Nope! Nash you know "good-n-well" its all about match-ups. HJ will match up well with Central. The kids know each other and those other variables will fall into place. ;)