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[quote name="Stevenash" post="1212865" timestamp="1334869945"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=99058.msg1212863#msg1212863 date=1334869426] [color=red]News Flash:[/color] [font=times new roman]South Park Middle School will be strengthening their schedule next season & has decided to drop Hardin-Jefferson High from their upcoming schedule. South park officials cited lack of competition as their reasoning. [/font] [/quote] No big deal.  We have already replaced South Park with Our Mary, Mother Of The Blind out of Muleshoe.  There is a good possibility we will play the boys team the following day. [/quote]An all time low. So sad!  :'(

[color=red]News Flash:[/color] [font=times new roman]South Park Middle School will be strengthening their schedule next season & has decided to drop Hardin-Jefferson High from their upcoming schedule. South park officials cited lack of competition as their reasoning. [/font]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1212843" timestamp="1334866535"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=99058.msg1212842#msg1212842 date=1334865972] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=99058.msg1212829#msg1212829 date=1334864738] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=99058.msg1212777#msg1212777 date=1334859893] I hope you instruction includes "real basketball" and "how to schedule your way to a state championship". [/quote] Schedule? Yall beat up on Big Horn, Red Creek, Buna, Dayton & Barbers Hill  ;D That ain't no schedule, those are called scrimmages. [/quote] We plan to make next years schedule slightly softer. [/quote] Dang who are you guys gonna play in that case? South Park Middle School home and home, Vincent Middle, and play in the CO Wilson MS tournament? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] ;D ;D

[quote name="Steven_A_Smith" post="1212741" timestamp="1334853397"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=99028.msg1212733#msg1212733 date=1334852566] [quote author=catfever link=topic=99028.msg1212701#msg1212701 date=1334846855] Some of those big time high school players might go to different schools if the current Freshman were staying.  For instance, if Anthony Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Teague were having to stay in school would those other 3 ESPN100 kids still sign with Kentucky or maybe another school.  Who knows, but either way it would make things better. [/quote]It does seem like all the top ESPN 50 kids looking at the same schools. Baylor, UT, Kentucky, Okie State, etc, etc, ............ I saw a recruit mention  Georgia. I was surprised. [/quote] 'Quite Frankly', I am very surprised that Shabazz Muhammad signed with UCLA over Kentucky.  Shabazz is definitely a One and Done.  UCLA also signed Kyle Anderson and Jordan Adams.  That kind of makes me think that someone's hands are getting greased in Westwood. [/quote] hmmmm ;)

[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1212765" timestamp="1334857835"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=99185.msg1212758#msg1212758 date=1334856970] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=99185.msg1212756#msg1212756 date=1334856823] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=99185.msg1212735#msg1212735 date=1334852696] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=99185.msg1212615#msg1212615 date=1334841197] Typical Repub diversion tactic... ;D ;D [/quote] [s]R[/s]repub [/quote] You two are really doing a great job with your present day Abbott and Costello routine. ;D [/quote] Are you possibly referring to the Dove and me? [/quote] Not this time Nash.  You two are more like Martin and Lewis. ;D  But "Dickie and the Dove" - sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon, doesn't it?  As a matter of fact I believe that's where they get most their posting material. [/quote] :o Silsbee trying to get on this act? Oh no you don't  ;) In fact, I should take this as an isolated incident, because I know the citizens of Silsbee  (minus two I know now) are fine people

[quote name="stevenash" post="1212777" timestamp="1334859893"] I hope you instruction includes "real basketball" and "how to schedule your way to a state championship". [/quote] Schedule? Yall beat up on Big Horn, Red Creek, Buna, Dayton & Barbers Hill  ;D That ain't no schedule, those are called scrimmages.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1212615" timestamp="1334841197"] Typical Repub diversion tactic... ;D ;D [/quote] [s]R[/s]repub

[quote name="catfever" post="1212701" timestamp="1334846855"] Some of those big time high school players might go to different schools if the current Freshman were staying.  For instance, if Anthony Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Teague were having to stay in school would those other 3 ESPN100 kids still sign with Kentucky or maybe another school.  Who knows, but either way it would make things better. [/quote]It does seem like all the top ESPN 50 kids looking at the same schools. Baylor, UT, Kentucky, Okie State, etc, etc, ............ I saw a recruit mention  Georgia. I was surprised.

lol! Very good

??? Who and where is China Springs? You made this up didn't up?

[quote name="stevenash" post="1212604" timestamp="1334840182"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1212599#msg1212599 date=1334839672] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212574#msg1212574 date=1334835656] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1212218#msg1212218 date=1334779272] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212174#msg1212174 date=1334775597] Would that mean that u now know who HJ is? [/quote]HJ seems to be known in the neighboring rural communities in Texas. Especially in the 750 population. [/quote] As opposed to more metropolitan communities such as Fannett? [/quote]I'm looking forward once again to the upcoming local summer ball scene. Should be fun with more potential trash talking from Nash. [/quote] Dove- I have noticed there have been multiple discussions regarding "real basketball".  Some consideration ought to be given to those who are proficient in "real trash talk". [/quote] Typical repub spin off  :-*

[quote name="kristinadams0423" post="1212324" timestamp="1334791146"] Mr. Dove.  You really make me laugh.  I do not post on here much but I do read.  You constantly try to stir HJ people up and I must admit you do quite a good job but this one confuses me a bit.  You are trying to irritate HJ people by telling them they will not be able to go to Austin for the next couple of years because a of a Yates team that has kept YOUR Ozen Lions(in all actuality it was not even Yates who has kept Ozen from the state tournament.....it was a team that HJ beat) from going to the state tournament for how many years now? Is that an Oxy moron??? HJ fans surely know they cannot beat Yates but you have to come on here and remind them.  Why not remind Silsbee?  Why not remind the future state champion HF Longhorns?  You remind HJ because you want to be a part of something like that.  Heck I wish I could have.  Ozen has ZERO chance to make it to Austin next year.....you and I both know that.  Instead of trying to beat down other teams you should try and support yours.  These are kids after all! [/quote] I support HJ (in my own devilish way).

[quote name="stevenash" post="1212259" timestamp="1334783511"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=99058.msg1212223#msg1212223 date=1334779733] [quote author=CoachKfan link=topic=99058.msg1212162#msg1212162 date=1334773527] What a compliment to a program if wondering if they will get to Austin every year is the measuring stick!!!  The majority of schools in Texas are just trying to get into the playoffs.  We don't even hang a banner unless we reach the regional tournament! [/quote]Wondering? The initial statements said  HJ won't see Austin, period! Live in the past. [/quote] And neither will several thousand other schools- most of whom have never seen it [/quote] I gotta admit Nash. You are on point.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1212574" timestamp="1334835656"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1212218#msg1212218 date=1334779272] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212174#msg1212174 date=1334775597] Would that mean that u now know who HJ is? [/quote]HJ seems to be known in the neighboring rural communities in Texas. Especially in the 750 population. [/quote] As opposed to more metropolitan communities such as Fannett? [/quote]I'm looking forward once again to the upcoming local summer ball scene. Should be fun with more potential trash talking from Nash.

[quote name="CoachKfan" post="1212162" timestamp="1334773527"] What a compliment to a program if wondering if they will get to Austin every year is the measuring stick!!!  The majority of schools in Texas are just trying to get into the playoffs.  We don't even hang a banner unless we reach the regional tournament! [/quote]Wondering? The initial statements said  HJ won't see Austin, period! Live in the past.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1212174" timestamp="1334775597"] Would that mean that u now know who HJ is? [/quote]HJ seems to be known in the neighboring rural communities in Texas. Especially in the 750 population.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1212185" timestamp="1334776506"] Well I think it counts more in 4A/5A, right Dove?  ;D ;D....of course I know about HJ....They are actually counted as the 4th Beaumont school, right? 8) [/quote] HJ's schedule is suspect to classify them with the big boys  :D

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1212122" timestamp="1334769040"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1212099#msg1212099 date=1334766338] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1212056#msg1212056 date=1334759859] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1212052#msg1212052 date=1334759202] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1212034#msg1212034 date=1334757340] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212031#msg1212031 date=1334757013] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1212028#msg1212028 date=1334756684] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212026#msg1212026 date=1334756581] With your multitude of college degrees, I would assume you could easily conclude that the last 5 years would, without a doubt, be more recent than the last 10. [/quote] Just trying to get YOUR enlightened definition, sir.... 8) [/quote] Hj has been 7 of the last 10 years.  Are you confident that Ozen has been there 8 or more? [/quote] This year made 7 of the last 10...starting in 2002...(02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 12)....I was counting 2001 initially, but that would have been 11 years ago now...So in the last 10 years, HJ AND Ozen have the most regional tourney appearances.. 8)....CORRECTION THEY DO HAVE MORE! I forgot about the 08 appearance where they lost to Yates in the regional semi in Katy....[b]8 of the last 10 years[/b], Ozen has been to the regional tournament...I STAND CORRECTED BY MYSELF! [/quote] Thanks Dickie, didn't realize Ozen had it going on like that. I just remember Ozen in the playoffs during Perkins' years and one year they met Wheatley. [/quote] Yeah we beat Wheatley to go to Austin in 2001, then they lost to them in the 2005 Regional...missed 22 free throws that game and lost by 2...missed 17 in the second half, including 5 in a row down the stretch that cost them the game...Wheatley wore them down with the pace, and hard fouls, and they could never get the tempo controlled..They were 34-1 that year...8 out of the last 10 regional tourneys, Ozen has been there...HJ who? ;)...(thought I would give you a little ammo, BD!!) ;D [/quote]Hmmm? I may be way off my years now. So what year was Chappell's last year? I think they lost in Final two his last year. So, what did Ozen do during DeCarlos' regime? [/quote] Brandon Chappell finished in 2002 when we lost to Dallas Lincoln in the State Championship game.  DeCarlos Frank's freshman year (2007) they also made it to the State Title game before losing to Dallas South Oak Cliff...His sophmore (2008) year they lost to Yates in the regional....His junior year they lost in the 2nd round to Huntsville, and I am not sure which round they lost in his senior year, but they didn't make the regional tourney. [/quote]2002? Dang! That long ago! I saw DeCarlos play in two high school games during his career. Now that kid was truly a pure basketball player.

[quote name="Steven_A_Smith" post="1212109" timestamp="1334767456"] What I still have not grasped yet, being an old school ball player, is that many of these kids coming out of college early really do have game.  'Quite Frankly', many people say they have to get stronger, as they said about Durant, Rose, etc. but those kids came into the Association and lit it up!  Yes, they are the exception, but I never thought a One and Done player could come in and do as well as they are today. [/quote]If they can do the job, I say so be it and let them play. Its their God -given talent.

[quote name="BellBiz30" post="1212088" timestamp="1334764118"] I thought this was a thread about Barbers Hill!  8) [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1212056" timestamp="1334759859"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1212052#msg1212052 date=1334759202] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1212034#msg1212034 date=1334757340] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212031#msg1212031 date=1334757013] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1212028#msg1212028 date=1334756684] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212026#msg1212026 date=1334756581] With your multitude of college degrees, I would assume you could easily conclude that the last 5 years would, without a doubt, be more recent than the last 10. [/quote] Just trying to get YOUR enlightened definition, sir.... 8) [/quote] Hj has been 7 of the last 10 years.  Are you confident that Ozen has been there 8 or more? [/quote] This year made 7 of the last 10...starting in 2002...(02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 12)....I was counting 2001 initially, but that would have been 11 years ago now...So in the last 10 years, HJ AND Ozen have the most regional tourney appearances.. 8)....CORRECTION THEY DO HAVE MORE! I forgot about the 08 appearance where they lost to Yates in the regional semi in Katy....[b]8 of the last 10 years[/b], Ozen has been to the regional tournament...I STAND CORRECTED BY MYSELF! [/quote] Thanks Dickie, didn't realize Ozen had it going on like that. I just remember Ozen in the playoffs during Perkins' years and one year they met Wheatley. [/quote] Yeah we beat Wheatley to go to Austin in 2001, then they lost to them in the 2005 Regional...missed 22 free throws that game and lost by 2...missed 17 in the second half, including 5 in a row down the stretch that cost them the game...Wheatley wore them down with the pace, and hard fouls, and they could never get the tempo controlled..They were 34-1 that year...8 out of the last 10 regional tourneys, Ozen has been there...HJ who? ;)...(thought I would give you a little ammo, BD!!) ;D [/quote]Hmmm? I may be way off my years now. So what year was Chappell's last year? I think they lost in Final two his last year. So, what did Ozen do during DeCarlos' regime?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1212025" timestamp="1334756362"] [quote author=Steven_A_Smith link=topic=99058.msg1212022#msg1212022 date=1334756180] Ok guys I am relatively new to this site.  I continue to read the comments referring to HJ's schedule.  Did they really play that weak of a schedule this past basketball season?  Did they play in the YMBL tournament?  [/quote] Nah it wasn't that bad...You just have to understand the relationship between Bluedove3 and ANYONE from HJ, basically!!  ;D...He will give them a hard time no matter WHO they played!! 8) [/quote] ;D

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1212034" timestamp="1334757340"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212031#msg1212031 date=1334757013] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1212028#msg1212028 date=1334756684] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1212026#msg1212026 date=1334756581] With your multitude of college degrees, I would assume you could easily conclude that the last 5 years would, without a doubt, be more recent than the last 10. [/quote] Just trying to get YOUR enlightened definition, sir.... 8) [/quote] Hj has been 7 of the last 10 years.  Are you confident that Ozen has been there 8 or more? [/quote] This year made 7 of the last 10...starting in 2002...(02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 12)....I was counting 2001 initially, but that would have been 11 years ago now...So in the last 10 years, HJ AND Ozen have the most regional tourney appearances.. 8)....CORRECTION THEY DO HAVE MORE! I forgot about the 08 appearance where they lost to Yates in the regional semi in Katy....[b]8 of the last 10 years[/b], Ozen has been to the regional tournament...I STAND CORRECTED BY MYSELF! [/quote] Thanks Dickie, didn't realize Ozen had it going on like that. I just remember Ozen in the playoffs during Perkins' years and one year they met Wheatley.

[quote name="Steven_A_Smith" post="1212000" timestamp="1334755074"] Wow!  Kentucky is making a lot of people upset with their 5 starters going to the Association.  I wonder why there is so much concern with ball players going to the Association early?  One and Done right now sure looks like a whole lot of fun...The Association will not touch it because they are making too much money off of the young players who did leave college early. [/quote]I'm sure the NCAA is[s] plotting[/s]..errr planing right now to slow down NCAA Minor League train. Maybe 3 and done  :D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1212013" timestamp="1334755578"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=98548.msg1212002#msg1212002 date=1334755114] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211996#msg1211996 date=1334754741] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=98548.msg1211994#msg1211994 date=1334754621] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=98548.msg1211894#msg1211894 date=1334716662] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1211455#msg1211455 date=1334674059] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211452#msg1211452 date=1334673843] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1211444#msg1211444 date=1334673513] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211440#msg1211440 date=1334673396] no- really? [/quote] Yep...and from what I here they have a pretty decent basketball program over there too... ;) [/quote] Are they really going to do away with the 3-a tourney and award the title by default to Yates in perpetuity? [/quote]nOPE!  We want you play and experience *real basketball*  ;D [/quote] We'll continue to play non-"real basketball" & [color=red]advance further in the playoffs than anyone else in the area[/color] - Silsbee excluded. [/quote] Just when was the last time HJ did that???? [/quote] My memory is a little fuzzy but I would think 2007 has a very good chance of qualifying. [/quote]Its 2012 So its been 5 yr that HJ has advanced further than any other team in the area. I would not say that as CONTINUING ADVANCING FURTHER.  HJ has a good program but so do other area teams ;D ;D  Dont try and make your team look good by putting others down. [/quote] I believe that HJ has been to as many or more regional tourneys than any other team in the area in recent years. [/quote]I don't doubt it Nash. ;)