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Yal didn't play anybody!!!  ::) [quote name="Honest Abe" post="1121058" timestamp="1321551678"] Good luck with that. I think it has been shown that there are more than just two good players for Nederland this year. When your best two players struggle and you still win by 20 points, that pretty much sums it up. [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91668.msg1121053#msg1121053 date=1321551328] [quote author=forum link=topic=91668.msg1121036#msg1121036 date=1321549647] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91668.msg1120834#msg1120834 date=1321535235] [quote author=diego cruz link=topic=91668.msg1120755#msg1120755 date=1321505441] coach E better get #21 under control.several wild drives to the basket from half court that resulted in  badly missed shots or a turn over,0 for 7 on 3's(definantly not an outside shooter) & crying to refs about a foul while the other team is scoring at the other end.#40,#11 & #35 are very good players,#10 has to show up to play for 4 quarters.subs came in & played hard.if #21 becomes a better TEAM player instead of trying to be allen iverson nederland will be a very solid team. [/quote] Play for 4Quarters? Not sure what game you were watching, but #10 brought the ball up the court the entire time he was in the game, and never threw the ball away. Without him bringing the ball up the court, we might lose that game on TOs and fast break points. Yes, he missed some shots that normally fall for him, but that happens. #21 is probably their best player, and i think he felt he had to do more than usual, and he tried to put everything on his shoulders. Yes, he did miss a lot of 3's, but apparently you haven't seen him or #10 play much. They both normally make a majority of their shots (wherever they are on the floor). Judging these guys by one game is not a fair assessment of their talents. [/quote] Agreed. 10 took care of the ball and pushed the floor that led to fast break points. He'll still have to get better against quicker and faster teams for Nederland to be successful. [/quote]Okay forum, you're saying way too much. We don't want too many Nederland fans knowing how they will get beaten [/quote] [/quote]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1121038" timestamp="1321549986"] [quote author=forum link=topic=91653.msg1121031#msg1121031 date=1321549449] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91653.msg1121011#msg1121011 date=1321548687] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91653.msg1120910#msg1120910 date=1321542686] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=91653.msg1120776#msg1120776 date=1321507746] I hope your joking Dove. [/quote]The St. Pius kids are good. But St. Pius is a football school for those who don't know. They are trying to build their basketball program. Again, the suburban kid is a catch word in reference to a mind set.  I use towards my kids as well. Those who want it (hood) and those who would rather play X-Box (suburban). Get it? :-\ Oh nevamind [/quote] They may be a Football school, i have no idea. Don't keep up with that. I do know that they had two players who graduated last year who went on to play college BBall, and this year's team has a D1 commit to San Diego, another who has the physical tools to dominate (#50), and another who is highly ranked in the Greater Houston area (#4). Isn't that what you look for Dove, Individual talent? Also have some promising Freshmen on JV (including Sheryl Swoops son). Nederland's JV just a much better 'team'. I like what AAW said on another thread about one magazine ranking 'teams' vs the other who emphasizes players and individualism. I know which one i'm going to listen to regardless if 'Da Magazine' said that Nederland will sweep through district again. I don't think that's going to happen, but I would certainly welcome it (again). That's why we play the games. [/quote] #50 did nothing, but looked great coming off the bus. #4 did a little more than nothing. English and Weisbrod are pretty good, but not great...yet. St. Pius's 2 were shut down by Nederland's defense which left English and Weisbrod matched up against those 2 in the 1-2-2 defense they played. [/quote] I agree. #50 was intimidating, but did nothing. That's why i said he has the physical tools to be good. My other point is that #4 is highly ranked amongst PGs in Houston, and he did nothing against Ned. The few times he penetrated the zone, he was met by two 6'5 kids down low. 'Da Magazine' had St.Pius ranked 26 in the Houston area in 5A, 4A, 3A, and Private schools. They have Ned at 27 in the greater Houston area. They have never seen Ned play, but they have seen English and Weisbrod play. I think they must rank 'teams' according to individual talent from players they watch over the summer in the AAU world?? BTW-Can someone please figure out a way to put this on the Ned/St. Pius thread?  8) [/quote] Those St. Pius kids are okay. Not great!!!Guess what! Just because you're signed to a D1 school does not mean your a good basketball player. Some kids have good grades and happen to play basketball. Helps with the graduation rate for NCAA requirements ;) Here is a shocker. I actually promote S.E.Texas Basketball to the Houston area crowd. But I ain't naming what schools I throw out there. It would mess up my reputation in this area ;) Good observation, they rank some schools by the individual players they see in Houston playing because they have no clue about teams in this area.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1121011" timestamp="1321548687"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91653.msg1120910#msg1120910 date=1321542686] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=91653.msg1120776#msg1120776 date=1321507746] I hope your joking Dove. [/quote]The St. Pius kids are good. But St. Pius is a football school for those who don't know. They are trying to build their basketball program. Again, the suburban kid is a catch word in reference to a mind set.  I use towards my kids as well. Those who want it (hood) and those who would rather play X-Box (suburban). Get it? :-\ Oh nevamind [/quote] They may be a Football school, i have no idea. Don't keep up with that. I do know that they had two players who graduated last year who went on to play college BBall, and this year's team has a D1 commit to San Diego, another who has the physical tools to dominate (#50), and another who is highly ranked in the Greater Houston area (#4). Isn't that what you look for Dove, Individual talent? Also have some promising Freshmen on JV (including Sheryl Swoops son). Nederland's JV just a much better 'team'. I like what AAW said on another thread about one magazine ranking 'teams' vs the other who emphasizes players and individualism. I know which one i'm going to listen to regardless if 'Da Magazine' said that Nederland will sweep through district again. I don't think that's going to happen, but I would certainly welcome it (again). That's why we play the games. [/quote] :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

[quote name="forum" post="1121036" timestamp="1321549647"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91668.msg1120834#msg1120834 date=1321535235] [quote author=diego cruz link=topic=91668.msg1120755#msg1120755 date=1321505441] coach E better get #21 under control.several wild drives to the basket from half court that resulted in  badly missed shots or a turn over,0 for 7 on 3's(definantly not an outside shooter) & crying to refs about a foul while the other team is scoring at the other end.#40,#11 & #35 are very good players,#10 has to show up to play for 4 quarters.subs came in & played hard.if #21 becomes a better TEAM player instead of trying to be allen iverson nederland will be a very solid team. [/quote] Play for 4Quarters? Not sure what game you were watching, but #10 brought the ball up the court the entire time he was in the game, and never threw the ball away. Without him bringing the ball up the court, we might lose that game on TOs and fast break points. Yes, he missed some shots that normally fall for him, but that happens. #21 is probably their best player, and i think he felt he had to do more than usual, and he tried to put everything on his shoulders. Yes, he did miss a lot of 3's, but apparently you haven't seen him or #10 play much. They both normally make a majority of their shots (wherever they are on the floor). Judging these guys by one game is not a fair assessment of their talents. [/quote] Agreed. 10 took care of the ball and pushed the floor that led to fast break points. He'll still have to get better against quicker and faster teams for Nederland to be successful. [/quote]Okay forum, you're saying way too much. We don't want too many Nederland fans knowing how they will get beaten

:-X We're being monitored. But I do think HJ and Kountze will be a good game for about the first  5 minutes.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1120708" timestamp="1321501133"] I think maybe he is referring to the couple of threads I posted that involved some Dallas and Houston area teams. I posted those because of the high interest of them across the state. Highly ranked teams facing off against each other to start the season. Just thought it would be interesting to post. [/quote] I agree. I'm so happy roundball is here, I don't care if its Wood[s]s[/s]ville basketball......hmmmm? Okay bad example.  :D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1120938" timestamp="1321544884"] Sorry- I thought sports were a part of life in general [/quote] Not according to "some" on this board. Told me and you to  :-X. So I will stick to topic. Oh, way to go HF over Vidor.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1120970" timestamp="1321546137"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91699.msg1120947#msg1120947 date=1321545323] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=91699.msg1120943#msg1120943 date=1321545141] TB beginning to sound like a Politician (democrat, of course) Blue-  repeat after me:  " I am from the government, and we are here to help you" [/quote] Nash, you left me behind to go and eat with your crew in Lake Charles. Just because I'm not a 1%enter, I wasn't invited. Never forgive you :'( [/quote] Dove- I was the invitee, not the inviter-  Closest friend had a birthday and we joined them for dinner.  Had it been my birthday (which is just around the corner) you would have been among the first invited. [/quote]Oh , so it was a 1%ter meeting ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1120939" timestamp="1321545022"] Perhaps he is a moderate? [/quote] I would be disappointed if he is  :(

[quote name="stevenash" post="1120943" timestamp="1321545141"] TB beginning to sound like a Politician (democrat, of course) Blue-  repeat after me:  " I am from the government, and we are here to help you" [/quote] Nash, you left me behind to go and eat with your crew in Lake Charles. Just because I'm not a 1%enter, I wasn't invited. Never forgive you :'(

TB, I have a Vidor t-shirt in my drawer but that doesn't mean I attended Vidor ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1120934" timestamp="1321544586"] I enjoy Jim's mag for what it is, a greater Houston area mag that covers mostly it's Houston teams and bigger schools across the state, along with info on the top players in the state and nationally. The other mags like TexPreps gives great coverage of every district from class 5A to Private schools across the state. They have info on every single team, something that Hicks mag doesn't provide. [/quote] Trying to sound like a moderate ::) Where is Nash? Nash, you need to take his Reagan card from him ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1120926" timestamp="1321543886"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91653.msg1120910#msg1120910 date=1321542686] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=91653.msg1120776#msg1120776 date=1321507746] I hope your joking Dove. [/quote]The St. Pius kids are good. But St. Pius is a football school for those who don't know. They are trying to build their basketball program. Again, the suburban kid is a catch word in reference to a mind set.  I use towards my kids as well. Those who want it (hood) and those who would rather play X-Box (suburban). Get it? :-\ Oh nevamind [/quote] But Dove, aren't you part of the crowd that complains about stereotyping?  Isnt that exactly what the "suburban" inference is? I know how you love when I bring up the old days.  Here is the reverse of what we normally hear about.  Remember the Larry/Magic rivalry? Check out their background/upbringings and you will find it was Larry who led the underpriviledged life and Magic had it pretty good growing up.  But I will bet if we asked the "crowd" that I just referenced, the general perception would be totally the opposite. [/quote] Nash and his politics on a sports forum ;) But hey, you bring up a good comparison. See, knowing what I know about Bird, he would go under my "hood" category because he was hungry for the game. Didn't allow the television or girls dictate his commitment to getting better.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1120928" timestamp="1321543999"] I think they have become a feeder school for Yates. [/quote] :D I might need to make a few inquires.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1120923" timestamp="1321543841"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91709.msg1120914#msg1120914 date=1321543077] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=91709.msg1120902#msg1120902 date=1321541836] Hicks mag is geared more to Houston area and bigger schools. It's a good read. TexPreps is good also because it has good coverage of the small schools (3A and down). I read the mags mostly for info on the "teams" and not necessarily what players and how they are ranked. [/quote] My point is this: Do they come and scout Silsbee and able to give a true assessment of Silsbee? Yes or no? [/quote] Not sure that either of these two make it to Silsbee. I personally have never seen Jim Hicks or R.V. Baugus at Silsbee High School, but that doesn't mean they haven't been there. Hicks goes to the big AAU circuits and has a good grasp on who the top players are, but he is clueless as to who are the top small school "teams" in the state. That is my point. My interest goes much further than who is the top 100 state or national players are. I want to learn more about the teams across the state. [/quote]wOW! This could turn into a complete different thread . Interesting. Hmm? The pros and cons between covering individual players and high school teams. I can see why both coverages are needed.

[quote name="True Blue" post="1120918" timestamp="1321543580"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=91699.msg1120766#msg1120766 date=1321506968] [quote author=Water Boy 21 link=topic=91699.msg1120758#msg1120758 date=1321505808] [quote author=ford15 link=topic=91699.msg1120699#msg1120699 date=1321500186] [quote author=justanotherguy link=topic=91699.msg1120696#msg1120696 date=1321499564] [quote author=Water Boy 21 link=topic=91699.msg1120128#msg1120128 date=1321465472] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=91699.msg1120109#msg1120109 date=1321464881] HJ by 19. Kountze will be good but HJ has so much talent it's scary! [/quote]how do you they have so much talent,you got Prudhomme and the bosha kid, but than they have a new young PG that will be ok but will make stupid mistakes, and than they got the [b]2 bigs down low that are just OK[/b]. so where do you get "HJ has so much talent it's scary!" [/quote] Correction. Devonte has great ball handling skills and will make you look stupid at any given time. Persohn is a multi-handed and can go either way to the rack great defense. Then Cade, is 6'8". He will block shots within a 5 foot radius. [/quote] H-J bigs must be a little better than just ok. Their back up left last year before the season even started and he is playing college ball now!!! :D ;D [/quote]he left because he knew he wasnt going to get a fair look coming in as a SR, and knew he had a better chance going to state with Evadale ;D ;D and the reason they are just ok because nether one of them can take over a game by them self, now im not saying cade want be able to one day [/quote] So you think that Dunigan from Evadale could have helped HJ last year? [/quote] I dont think he would have helped HJ as much as he did at Evadale.. And as of now thats all that counts.. [/quote]Blue, didn't you guys make it to State last year?

I've seen several local high school basketball teams this year and it seems to me many of these teams are very young. Are there any local teams with mostly seniors & juniors on their teams? Just curious.

[quote name="mfd814" post="1120527" timestamp="1321487788"] High score for Tarkington  Willis with 19, Carpenter 11. High score for Hardin:  Estep 20 and 8 boards, Dumas 11 and 10 boards. Great job guys. [/quote]Hardin keep winning we gonna have to start checking birth certificates :D

[quote name="2% Milk" post="1120594" timestamp="1321491336"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=91656.msg1120560#msg1120560 date=1321489646] We will see! I like to see all schools have success. [/quote]as do i and i wish ya'll good luck on the rest of your season. I just don't like the disrespect everyone shows to Kelly if Kelly would have beat yall last night you still would have probably taken knocks at kelly no one ever wants to show Kelly any respect. [/quote]I do understand what you feel ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1120902" timestamp="1321541836"] Hicks mag is geared more to Houston area and bigger schools. It's a good read. TexPreps is good also because it has good coverage of the small schools (3A and down). I read the mags mostly for info on the "teams" and not necessarily what players and how they are ranked. [/quote] My point is this: Do they come and scout Silsbee and able to give a true assessment of Silsbee? Yes or no?

[quote name="2% Milk" post="1120778" timestamp="1321509717"] [quote author=diego cruz link=topic=91653.msg1120769#msg1120769 date=1321507233] #4 &#25 FOR ST.PIUS ARE 2 VERY GOOD PLAYERS.ANY GOOD COACH WOULD WELCOME THEM AS STARTERS IN HOUSTON OR BMT. AREA.NOT SURE IF THEY ARE HOOD KIDS OR SUBURBAN CATHOLIC KIDS, EITHER WAY THEY ARE TOP NOTCH PLAYERS.THE SUBURBAN KID/ HOOD KID PHILOSOPHY IS A JOKE. [/quote]i agree and St Thomas has better players than pius and Pius is DEFINITELY a football school Thomas is the Basketball and Baseball school. [/quote]True. Good points.

[quote name="2% Milk" post="1120779" timestamp="1321509800"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91653.msg1120210#msg1120210 date=1321469414] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91653.msg1120159#msg1120159 date=1321466567] [quote author=forum link=topic=91653.msg1120146#msg1120146 date=1321466149] St. Pius was not very good. The point guard did a lot of juking, but never went anywhere. They had some big guys, but none of them could score. Nederland played a 1-2-2, but really squezed the middle since St. Pius put someone running from elbow to elbow. This left their wings open for 3's after one pass. Rarely did they attempt a 3, and didn't make the ones they attempted. St. Pius pressed Nederland, but Nederland was too quick and broke it every time. Ball went to the middle, and they ran the floor. Weisbrod's FG percentage MUST go up. [/quote] WEISBROD did not have a good game, no doubt, but he still scored 17 points and grabbed 8 rebounds.He needs to realize that he does not have to do everything on his own. St  Ps point guard is highly ranked in the houston area. He is very quick, but he does not have a good shot. [/quote]Highly ranked suburban kid attending a Catholic school. Would not start in a Houston public school [/quote]so by this philosophy J'covan Brown wouldn't have been starting going from Kelly to Memorial. [/quote] Never considered or heard he had an x-box mentality ;)

[quote name="east texas bb" post="1120776" timestamp="1321507746"] I hope your joking Dove. [/quote]The St. Pius kids are good. But St. Pius is a football school for those who don't know. They are trying to build their basketball program. Again, the suburban kid is a catch word in reference to a mind set.  I use towards my kids as well. Those who want it (hood) and those who would rather play X-Box (suburban). Get it? :-\ Oh nevamind

[quote name="stevenash" post="1120809" timestamp="1321528850"] [quote author=Water Boy 21 link=topic=91699.msg1120758#msg1120758 date=1321505808] [quote author=ford15 link=topic=91699.msg1120699#msg1120699 date=1321500186] [quote author=justanotherguy link=topic=91699.msg1120696#msg1120696 date=1321499564] [quote author=Water Boy 21 link=topic=91699.msg1120128#msg1120128 date=1321465472] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=91699.msg1120109#msg1120109 date=1321464881] HJ by 19. Kountze will be good but HJ has so much talent it's scary! [/quote]how do you they have so much talent,you got Prudhomme and the bosha kid, but than they have a new young PG that will be ok but will make stupid mistakes, and than they got the [b]2 bigs down low that are just OK[/b]. so where do you get "HJ has so much talent it's scary!" [/quote] Correction. Devonte has great ball handling skills and will make you look stupid at any given time. Persohn is a multi-handed and can go either way to the rack great defense. Then Cade, is 6'8". He will block shots within a 5 foot radius. [/quote] H-J bigs must be a little better than just ok. Their back up left last year before the season even started and he is playing college ball now!!! :D ;D [/quote]he left because he knew he wasnt going to get a fair look coming in as a SR, and knew he had a better chance going to state with Evadale ;D ;D and the reason they are just ok because nether one of them can take over a game by them self, now im not saying cade want be able to one day [/quote] Everyone has ALWAYS gotten a fair look at HJ in basketball. [/quote] I'm enjoying this Stevie :D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1120870" timestamp="1321538597"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91709.msg1120864#msg1120864 date=1321538157] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=91709.msg1120713#msg1120713 date=1321501336] Just so happens, I went by the Barnes and Noble at Parkdale Mall today, no sign of the mag. Store employee said they did not know if they were even going to get it. Did pick up this year's TexPreps Basketball mag. [/quote]Texprep? Oh okay. So you'd rather trust a magazine that [color=red]doesn't even see [/color]half (okay more than half) of the kids they highlight there. [/quote] Who said anything about trust? I picked it up to read it's info. Plan on picking up Hick's mag in Houston Friday when I go over there to broadcast playoff games. Question, TexPreps can be found all over the state, why is Hick's mag just greater Houston area? Been getting both mags the last several years, both have it's good and bad. [/quote]Hick's is marketed for the Greater Houston Area. Hicks ACTUALLY goes out to see the players plaY. BIG DIFFERENCE!