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[quote name="5 on 5" post="1076268" timestamp="1318038229"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=89266.msg1075738#msg1075738 date=1318016695] You all are far too sciency, all this talk about red and white muscle fibers and to twitch or not twitch, man we just want to put the ball in the hole more than the other team.  :D [/quote] You're right! And if the bball season doesnt get here fast we are all gonna be "twitchin" ;D [/quote]no shiggidy! CaN BaReLy typ e skRaightt now. My Finger SHakInG

[quote name="bmrm" post="1077674" timestamp="1318126801"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89319.msg1075754#msg1075754 date=1318017913] In Houston, you would have about 5-7 schools in 3-A. Maybe HJ could start a small 3-A division or maybe drop down to 2-A. nAH, that wouldn't work because the enrollment is ????? hmmmm? Well yall had some transfers too. I guess 3-A it is. Good lu ...errr luc. ;) [/quote] We don't have to worry about 5-7 schools in the Houston 3-A area.  Dove, just so you remember, envy & jealously are some of the seven deadlies! [/quote] ;D

[quote name="bh89-2" post="1074115" timestamp="1317838055"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=89323.msg1074111#msg1074111 date=1317837635] [quote author=bh89-2 link=topic=89323.msg1074106#msg1074106 date=1317837458] Nah, nobody sick or dying, they just need all the help they can get to win at least one game this year.  That and Soulja is now on max dose of prosac, so he needs special recognition as you tune in the the good fella upstairs.  ;D ;D [/quote] Personally, I liked your idea of them scheduling some of them small schools to get a win. ;D [/quote] Yeah, like Coldsprings.  I better send Robert a blue and white shirt soon.  [/quote]or Silsbee ;D

[quote name="no-look" post="1075779" timestamp="1318019120"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=89266.msg1075738#msg1075738 date=1318016695] You all are far too sciency, all this talk about red and white muscle fibers and to twitch or not twitch, man we just want to put the ball in the hole more than the other team.  :D [/quote]Thats down to my level now...lol.......It's kinda like "Good things happen if you can hit the bucket" [/quote]Ah, now we're making a little progress. Running cc  ain't gonna matter if you don't have the footwork or skill set to get to the rim

In Houston, you would have about 5-7 schools in 3-A. Maybe HJ could start a small 3-A division or maybe drop down to 2-A. nAH, that wouldn't work because the enrollment is ????? hmmmm? Well yall had some transfers too. I guess 3-A it is. Good lu ...errr luc. ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1075664" timestamp="1318010576"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1075662#msg1075662 date=1318010101] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=89266.msg1075584#msg1075584 date=1318005102] [Hidden Content] people training for 5k's which is what CC is do sprint work twice a week.....they have to train both fast twitch and slow twitch fibers....anyone that has seen someone run a 5k in a good time knows that these guys are running 6 min miles on top of each other....if you have ever run a 6 minute mile you know it involves fast twitch fibers....there is nothing that is not explosive about a 6 minute mile [/quote]It makes them better twitch runners, not basketball players. [/quote] Dove- Go back and look up a basketball player named John Havlicek,( Ohio State/Boston Celtics/13 time NBA All Star/ 8 time NBA Champion) who, at the time, was regarded as one of the best conditioned athletes in the world.  He was a superior basketball player and it was NOT because of his explosiveness or jumping ability or general athletecism..  His endurance paid huge dividends for him and he was still at full speed when everybody else was fading. [/quote]Nash, do you still watch those old games[color=red] DURING THE 90'S [/color]and see how SLOW those guys are compared to the kids today? And you wanna bring up Havlichek? I saw you on the other day from the early 2000's. Give it up!  ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1075584" timestamp="1318005102"] [Hidden Content] people training for 5k's which is what CC is do sprint work twice a week.....they have to train both fast twitch and slow twitch fibers....anyone that has seen someone run a 5k in a good time knows that these guys are running 6 min miles on top of each other....if you have ever run a 6 minute mile you know it involves fast twitch fibers....there is nothing that is not explosive about a 6 minute mile [/quote]It makes them better twitch runners, not basketball players.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1075578" timestamp="1318004913"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89319.msg1075559#msg1075559 date=1318003844] Here is a proposal I'm hearing: Furr, Jones, Kashmere, Scarborough, Washington, Worthing, and Yates would form a 3A district. Any combination of the ABOVE MENTIONED, and I'm quoting  "teams could be competing with the likes of Cleveland, Silsbee, Stafford, etc for Region 3 supremacy." Dang, they left HJ out of the mix ::)  I bet people thought the Dallas schools would never drop down to 3-A  ;) [/quote] Dove, you really think RCA sports knows what it's talking about?  Jim Hicks love to speculate just to stir it up. [/quote]Hicks is never wrong ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1075574" timestamp="1318004734"] [quote author=tokenwb link=topic=89266.msg1075274#msg1075274 date=1317954294] In Silsbee, the basketball players that do not play football run with the Cross Country team every day after school.  They also combine this with speed drills.  This type of conditioning will pay off. [/quote] YOu may not want to post this type of information.  If bball players are working out with cross country team after school but do not participate in any meets, that is a big no-no in the eyes of the UIL. [/quote] theres that word again  :-X :-X

:D ;D You guys kill me..ooops! ;D wrong forum [quote name="stevenash" post="1075570" timestamp="1318004622"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1075554#msg1075554 date=1318003500] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=89266.msg1075526#msg1075526 date=1318001346] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1075417#msg1075417 date=1317991427] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=89266.msg1075406#msg1075406 date=1317989959] I know one thing.  HJ's basketball players have participated in cross country for years.  Everyone on this board can admit that HJ never has the best athletes on the court.  The results speak for themselves! [/quote] LUCK  ;D [/quote] Consistent luck [/quote]Yall *luc* running out. Notice the missing "K." Represents time is running out  ;D Silsbee can't wait to beat HJ  :o [/quote] I never dispute your wisdom, Dove.  HJ will probably have a .500 district record this year- that is, if we are lucy(note the missing K) [/quote]

[quote name="tigersvoice" post="1075566" timestamp="1318004498"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1075554#msg1075554 date=1318003500] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=89266.msg1075526#msg1075526 date=1318001346] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1075417#msg1075417 date=1317991427] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=89266.msg1075406#msg1075406 date=1317989959] I know one thing.  HJ's basketball players have participated in cross country for years.  Everyone on this board can admit that HJ never has the best athletes on the court.  The results speak for themselves! [/quote] LUCK  ;D [/quote] Consistent luck [/quote]Yall *luc* running out. Notice the missing "K." Represents time is running out  ;D Silsbee can't wait to beat HJ  :o [/quote] Bluequail, why are you bringing Silsbee into this thread?  Stand your own ground.  We can make H-J mad enough on our own. ;D 8) [/quote] ;D :D I'm guilty as accused

Lets be honest, Kendrick is the glue to that 8th grade team at HF. He make makes that team go.

Here is a proposal I'm hearing: Furr, Jones, Kashmere, Scarborough, Washington, Worthing, and Yates would form a 3A district. Any combination of the ABOVE MENTIONED, and I'm quoting  "teams could be competing with the likes of Cleveland, Silsbee, Stafford, etc for Region 3 supremacy." Dang, they left HJ out of the mix ::)  I bet people thought the Dallas schools would never drop down to 3-A  ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1075526" timestamp="1318001346"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1075417#msg1075417 date=1317991427] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=89266.msg1075406#msg1075406 date=1317989959] I know one thing.  HJ's basketball players have participated in cross country for years.  Everyone on this board can admit that HJ never has the best athletes on the court.  The results speak for themselves! [/quote] LUCK  ;D [/quote] Consistent luck [/quote]Yall *luc* running out. Notice the missing "K." Represents time is running out  ;D Silsbee can't wait to beat HJ  :o

[quote name="sleepy" post="1075406" timestamp="1317989959"] I know one thing.  HJ's basketball players have participated in cross country for years.  Everyone on this board can admit that HJ never has the best athletes on the court.  The results speak for themselves! [/quote] LUCK  ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1075046" timestamp="1317938188"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1075034#msg1075034 date=1317937379] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=89266.msg1075016#msg1075016 date=1317935674] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1074993#msg1074993 date=1317933166] Basketball is a running sport.  Running occurs in short, powerful bursts with quick starts and stops and also involves continual jumping and landing. And distance running fails to train the muscle fibers for quick, explosive movements. sOURCE: US Sports Academy & DA DOVE ;) [/quote] I have seen many an explosive sprinter on the basketball court who was totally out of gas at crunch time.  Source: Stevenash [/quote] Nash, come back to earth. Larry Bird is retired ;D [/quote] Yes, he is.  He did manage, however, to survive the rigors of the NBA rather successfully without concern for "twitches" [/quote]One of many few

[quote name="stevenash" post="1075016" timestamp="1317935674"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1074993#msg1074993 date=1317933166] Basketball is a running sport.  Running occurs in short, powerful bursts with quick starts and stops and also involves continual jumping and landing. And distance running fails to train the muscle fibers for quick, explosive movements. sOURCE: US Sports Academy & DA DOVE ;) [/quote] I have seen many an explosive sprinter on the basketball court who was totally out of gas at crunch time.  Source: Stevenash [/quote] Nash, come back to earth. Larry Bird is retired ;D

Basketball is a running sport.  Running occurs in short, powerful bursts with quick starts and stops and also involves continual jumping and landing. And distance running fails to train the muscle fibers for quick, explosive movements. sOURCE: US Sports Academy & DA DOVE ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1074869" timestamp="1317924024"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1074857#msg1074857 date=1317923541] [quote author=nuthinbutnet link=topic=89266.msg1074855#msg1074855 date=1317923322] For what it is worth, I asked my son about this since he was on a team that the b-ball coach required the players to run cross country. He said that he felt that it did several things. 1) it helped them to be better physically prepared for 1st practice. Note: this school doesn't have football. 2) he felt like he could go the whole distance. He said he does not know if was mental or physical, but he felt that having ran CC before basketball did make a difference. This probably doesn't change anything on this board, but from a players view it did help him. [/quote]I don't think anyone is saying CC does not help. But I'm sure it helps you obtain CC skills ;) [/quote If the player "believes" it helps him, I can absolutely, unequivocally, assure you that it does, in fact, help him. [/quote]I agree. he's a better cross country runner ;D

[quote name="nuthinbutnet" post="1074855" timestamp="1317923322"] For what it is worth, I asked my son about this since he was on a team that the b-ball coach required the players to run cross country. He said that he felt that it did several things. 1) it helped them to be better physically prepared for 1st practice. Note: this school doesn't have football. 2) he felt like he could go the whole distance. He said he does not know if was mental or physical, but he felt that having ran CC before basketball did make a difference. This probably doesn't change anything on this board, but from a players view it did help him. [/quote]I don't think anyone is saying CC does not help. But I'm sure it helps you obtain CC skills ;)

:D True dat!

[quote name="octfeb" post="1074580" timestamp="1317900608"] [quote author=Eagle11 link=topic=89322.msg1074554#msg1074554 date=1317889145] Good points TVC.......I just do not get these folks.....men and women....that do this. Lack of self control I guess. [/quote] lack of brain matter... on the offenders part   But I also would be interested to know why she went back a second time. [/quote]Lack of brain matter. I've been told by teachers that the girls have become very aggressive. Obviously something happened to break the ice for the relationship to go wherever .....

Ah, talking about basketball again-refreshing. Getting my daily fix.

[quote name="ford15" post="1074611" timestamp="1317905005"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=89266.msg1074488#msg1074488 date=1317869241] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89266.msg1073237#msg1073237 date=1317742453] Someone mentioned to me last week that their kid participate in cross- country running as off season conditioning. Not sure of the reasoning why this is done unless it gives the players something to do while the gyms are being occupied by volleyball games and practice. I am from the school of thought that cross-country training does not adequately prepare one for basketball. Distance running uses a whole "nother" set of muscle fibers and energy than basketball. [/quote] Cross country training utilizes and conditions slow twitch muscle fibers. Fast twitch muscle fibers are utilized in sprinting, jumping, all explosive movements , etc. Just compare a long distance runner's legs to a sprinters. There is what's called "specificity of training". In other words if I want to improve my vertical I wouldn't choose seated knee extensions, I would choose an exercise that's works the muscles in the specific manner they will be needed, so I would choose jumping movements, esp. plyometrics. There is also aerobic and non-aerobic activities. Long distance running is aerobic, and believe it or not basketball is predominantly non-aerobic, short distance sprints with decreased activity in between. Yes, basketball has an aerobic component, however, my lengthy point is "specificity of training". If you are engaging in cross country running to condition yourself for basketball you most definitely will not achieve optimal results. [/quote] But at H-J we exercise both sets of muscle fibers!! [/quote]Oh? Didn't know you guys had more than one gear muscle ;D