BLUEDOVE3

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="987706" timestamp="1300983198"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987665#msg987665 date=1300974931] Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D [/quote]That's a good theory. But in reality, if your kids spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym all summer they'd be burnt out on basketball and HJ and Silsbee would once again whip's HF's butt next season. Just goes to show that there is a difference between theory and reality.  ;) [/quote]Ah but the true reality is that true ballers have no problem playing 4-5 hours a day, while the rest play video games. All we need are at least 4 true ballers to carry us in order to beat HJ ;)

Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D

[quote name="whsalum" post="987591" timestamp="1300935150"] Texas had some solid players but they aren't NBA ready,if they declare it will be a mistake. [/quote]Reminds me of the Oklahoma players from year before last. Came out too early. One finally made it somewhere overseas after being dissed by the NBA and the other was cut from a NBA team and I think is in the D-League now. Both came out too early and listening to the wrong people.

[quote name="sleepy" post="987462" timestamp="1300905989"] It was not a DWI.  It was felony drug charges he had placed against him. That is what is causing this.  Although he agreed to a plea deal and as long as he stays clean through 2013 he will have no felony on record this is what is keeping him from getting this job. [/quote]Thats a serious offense

[quote name="sleepy" post="987445" timestamp="1300904183"] [quote author=weslinder link=topic=82161.msg987442#msg987442 date=1300903882] If Bubba Skelton wants the job, I think it ought to be his. He's been a sucessful coach at the Juco level, he was a good assistant here, he brought in most of the good players that Lamar has had over the past 5 years. I was worried that he wouldn't want the job because of his relationship with Roc, but since he's applied, I think it should be his job. [/quote] Support skelton all you want but saying that he brought most of the good players in over the last 5 years is not why we should hire him because there werent that many that good and the records prove it. [/quote]amen!

[quote name="stevenash" post="987436" timestamp="1300902906"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987427#msg987427 date=1300901143] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81681.msg987328#msg987328 date=1300890789] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987325#msg987325 date=1300890686] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=81681.msg986909#msg986909 date=1300834484] I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams. [/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win. [/quote] Who is it that will be matching up with Prudhomme? [/quote]Oh thats easy. We have two bigs to help out and quick guards to strip him when put it on the floor. OOPS! Too much info. [/quote] Sounds to me like out three point shooter is gonna have a lot of fun when all of those people stop Prudhomme.  Will all four of those (2 bigs and 2 quick guards) going to be new people?  I don't remember any of them doing much of that to him last season. [/quote]If HF hires who I think it will be, the new coach will see it ;)

[quote name="UNLV" post="987326" timestamp="1300890757"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=82161.msg987307#msg987307 date=1300888567] Here's the list from Bob West: Pat Knight Sean Sutton Don Skelton Matt Cross Tom Abatemarco Steve Green Alvin Brooks Glenn Cyprien [Hidden Content] [/quote] Pat Knight-NO Sean Sutton-NO Don Skelton-YES Matt Cross-YES Tom Abatemarco-YES Steve Green-I know little about him Alvin Brooks-NO Glenn Cyprien-NO Of the 3, Abatemarco is the best over all in recruiting and coaching. But he has issues, his mouth. And will the community accept him back? Cross style fits the current team so some succes could come quickly. However he is a gamble, DI is very different from the lower Divisions. Skelton style could work in the SLC or WAC. However I think it would take him 2-3 years to build. [/quote]Okay, your opinions are being retired. Especially if you're giving Tom Abatemarco a green light. ::)

[quote name="stevenash" post="987328" timestamp="1300890789"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987325#msg987325 date=1300890686] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=81681.msg986909#msg986909 date=1300834484] I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams. [/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win. [/quote] Who is it that will be matching up with Prudhomme? [/quote]Oh thats easy. We have two bigs to help out and quick guards to strip him when put it on the floor. OOPS! Too much info.

[quote name="stevenash" post="987378" timestamp="1300896202"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg987324#msg987324 date=1300890502] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=81856.msg987222#msg987222 date=1300853467] I knew HJ and some others had good youth programs, didnt know that HF did.  If they do have a good youth program and something goes amiss in those years(8th-9th), then that is a sad situation, especially for the kids.  Hopefully they can find a solution to transition from the younger ages to HS.    [/quote]Actually, HF dominates in the pre-9th grade [/quote] I think that may be due to the fact that UOS isnt as dominant at that time. [/quote]I know my older kid was coming home sore from weights and gym work. And trust me, the HF team needs more gym time than weight  time.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="986909" timestamp="1300834484"] I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams. [/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win.

[quote name="east texas bb" post="987222" timestamp="1300853467"] I knew HJ and some others had good youth programs, didnt know that HF did.  If they do have a good youth program and something goes amiss in those years(8th-9th), then that is a sad situation, especially for the kids.  Hopefully they can find a solution to transition from the younger ages to HS.    [/quote]Actually, HF dominates in the pre-9th grade

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="987200" timestamp="1300851870"] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=81856.msg987188#msg987188 date=1300851044] Those are goals for short term success or winning, but if you want to continually win you have to have a strong youth program, which you will usually see if you have the above ingredients.  A coach can add those qualties in a few years if the conditions are right for him to do so. Another ingredient that is left out is you have to have a little luck especially when the playoffs start.  Another ingredient is Serventhood, or the ability to give up oneself for the team concept. But I like all the ingredients you listed, those are without doubt needed to win. JMO [/quote]Ahhhhh!!!!!  I can't believe I missed that!  Good catch. But to your point, yes HJ has a solid youth program that is the envy of many other programs........ But HF also seems to have just as solid a foundation.  Something just seems to go amiss during the transition from 8th (and maybe 9th) grade to Varsity.  The wheels on the HF bus just seem to fall off, and most miserably at that. [/quote]The wheels fall off? I think the spare tire goes with it too. ;) Surely the blame can't be all on weightlifting because the football team has the same problem.....losing!

[quote name="Scooter!" post="986826" timestamp="1300827966"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=81856.msg986819#msg986819 date=1300825865] IF HF has all this 8th and 9th grade talent, will it transfer to the varsity? [/quote]good question  ;D [/quote] ::) Fellas, it's all about putting the ingredients together. Thats why I said , oh wait a minute. We can select 7th, 8th and 9th graders from HF and beat Memorial's 9th grade.  :o

[quote name="Scooter!" post="986731" timestamp="1300812819"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986715#msg986715 date=1300810197] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81856.msg986707#msg986707 date=1300809360] :D :D :D :D :D [/quote]Man, you laughing huh? Last night our 12-13 year old girls defeated P.A. boys 22-21. Watch out before HF take on Memorial :D [/quote]lol  yeah right, then you woke up.  :D [/quote]I could take a few each from our 7th, 8th and 9th graders AND beat your 9th grade team.  :o

Hate to see Hamshire Fannett share some respect

NAYSAYERS

[quote name="team first" post="986736" timestamp="1300813334"] Wow, is this really a thread. Are we talking about the ............lol..........Poll? I'm sure there are some experts on that there poll.Same guy voting day after day!!!Can't think of anything else to say, except go longhorns. [/quote] ??? GO LONGHORNS!!!!

:D :D :D Poll results 27% feel HF will win a State title before Silsbee does, while 7% feel Silsbee will win it first. ;D :D ;D :D

[quote name="Scooter!" post="986707" timestamp="1300809360"] :D :D :D :D :D [/quote]Man, you laughing huh? Last night our 12-13 year old girls defeated P.A. boys 22-21. Watch out before HF take on Memorial :D

[quote name="Scooter!" post="986710" timestamp="1300809541"] I know for a fact Tristan is coming back to play with Myck (future Longhorn PG).....I dont believe for a second Jordan Hamilton will come back. [/quote]Point being is that they all won't be back.

[quote name="epg2793" post="986536" timestamp="1300759930"] Tidwell ruled himself out at his press conference. [/quote]I don't blame him.

Nope! I never said they would win State at Hamshire in 2011. I said the road to State would start. The 2011 season would be the groundwork laid for the upcoming seasons for HF to reach playoff potential. Due to unforeseen circumstances this season, it could have happened by making playoffs this season. My predictions are still falling into place. The unforeseen may have been a blessing. Maybe our new coach will make his players see what they can be rather ........................ "A good coach will make his players see what they can be rather than what they are." -Ara Parseghian

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="986477" timestamp="1300752509"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986421#msg986421 date=1300741265] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81856.msg986361#msg986361 date=1300735338] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986355#msg986355 date=1300734317] [quote author=ST11 link=topic=81856.msg984360#msg984360 date=1300383743] [quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=81856.msg984262#msg984262 date=1300372996] I like Hamshire chances [/quote] doubtful.. atleast Silsbee can make playoffs consistantly [/quote][b]With a good coach, HF will give Silsbee fits next season [/b] ;) [/quote]in what? golf?  :D [/quote]I guess it will take awhile to get over Rodney Dangerfield reputation. [/quote]No, all it takes is a good play-off run. [/quote] ;)

[quote name="Scooter!" post="986361" timestamp="1300735338"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986355#msg986355 date=1300734317] [quote author=ST11 link=topic=81856.msg984360#msg984360 date=1300383743] [quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=81856.msg984262#msg984262 date=1300372996] I like Hamshire chances [/quote] doubtful.. atleast Silsbee can make playoffs consistantly [/quote][b]With a good coach, HF will give Silsbee fits next season [/b] ;) [/quote]in what? golf?  :D [/quote]I guess it will take awhile to get over Rodney Dangerfield reputation.

[quote name="Ruckdad" post="984031" timestamp="1300324534"] All indications are that he has turned over a new leaf.  And Tubby Smith did a pretty good job of wrecking Kentucky basketball. On another note - Calipari has a lil bit of dirt surrounding him too. [/quote]Tubby was only guilty of starting his kid and playing daddyball which lead to its downward spiral ;D