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I can say this: Each Freshman have their own unique talent and it will be interesting to watch how they develop in the coming years.

[quote name="puddin tane" post="937981" timestamp="1293164626"] play your best 5...then send in a nicky snell to give one a breather...just cuz ya got 12 suited dont mean you gotta play em all [/quote]And you would think it is that simple. But for whatever reasons, some coaches can't figure it out. Maybe thats why they make terrible coaches.

[quote name="Wildcatter" post="938036" timestamp="1293206115"] I have not really seen anyone that is ready except for DC.  That being said, he still has a lot of work to do.  Most kids and parents have no idea what to expect at that next level. Kind of like the football kid from Silsbee coming back home.  If is sometime easy to get caught being a big fish in a small pond and when you realize that you go from the king of campus to the end of the bench it can be tough for kids to handle.  I was talking to a baseball kid the other day that signed with Texas last year and he was kidding that he wanted the coach that recruited him back instead of the one that yells at them all of the time.  Just a different world out there now and most kids around here are just not prepared for it. [/quote]Preach the wisdom! ;)

[quote name="east texas bb" post="938012" timestamp="1293172021"] It sounds like BlueDove is getting ready to fly the HF coup to the HJ coup?????  I have heard alot of beating around the bush.  And in all honesty you should be able to move your kids to wherever gives them the best chance to succeed. [/quote] :-X :-X ;D

[quote name="east texas bb" post="938006" timestamp="1293170586"] Everybody deserves respect and loyalty and honesty as long as it is reciprocated. [/quote]Aggie knows I respect his work ::) We've met and still talked a little trash talk. He's my boy!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="938002" timestamp="1293170055"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77927.msg938001#msg938001 date=1293169793] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77927.msg937998#msg937998 date=1293169640] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77927.msg937997#msg937997 date=1293169397] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77927.msg937995#msg937995 date=1293169037] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77927.msg937984#msg937984 date=1293165448] From what I have been told, DC Stallworth is getting looks from some SLC schools and a couple C-USA schools. DC can and will play guard at the next level. [/quote]He will have to play guard ::) [/quote] Really ::) You are so smart, hard to believe you are a Kashmere grad. [/quote]Kashmere? I'm from the neighborhood of the mighty Wheatley Wildcats! [/quote] Even more surprised now. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. [/quote]Benefit of the doubt? Now that you know, maybe its time you start showing more respect my way. [/quote]I thought so! 8)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="938001" timestamp="1293169793"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77927.msg937998#msg937998 date=1293169640] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77927.msg937997#msg937997 date=1293169397] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77927.msg937995#msg937995 date=1293169037] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77927.msg937984#msg937984 date=1293165448] From what I have been told, DC Stallworth is getting looks from some SLC schools and a couple C-USA schools. DC can and will play guard at the next level. [/quote]He will have to play guard ::) [/quote] Really ::) You are so smart, hard to believe you are a Kashmere grad. [/quote]Kashmere? I'm from the neighborhood of the mighty Wheatley Wildcats! [/quote] Even more surprised now. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. [/quote]Benefit of the doubt? Now that you know, maybe its time you start showing more respect my way.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="937997" timestamp="1293169397"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77927.msg937995#msg937995 date=1293169037] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77927.msg937984#msg937984 date=1293165448] From what I have been told, DC Stallworth is getting looks from some SLC schools and a couple C-USA schools. DC can and will play guard at the next level. [/quote]He will have to play guard ::) [/quote] Really ::) You are so smart, hard to believe you are a Kashmere grad. [/quote]Kashmere? I'm from the neighborhood of the mighty Wheatley Wildcats!

I'd like to see him play the 1 or 2 spot more often in order to prep him for the next level. But hey, its a team game. So hopefully he is working  on his own  time.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="937984" timestamp="1293165448"] From what I have been told, DC Stallworth is getting looks from some SLC schools and a couple C-USA schools. DC can and will play guard at the next level. [/quote]He will have to play guard ::)

[quote name="whsalum" post="937966" timestamp="1293162453"] That's the biggest misconception about playing college ball.There is very little if any financial help at a D-3 school.Some kids sign to play at them only to realize later that it's not what they want to do.It's hard to go from a packed house in high school to a some of these small schools who draw 150-200 people to a game.There have been some really good small school players in this area over the last few years and most didn't play past high school.If you ever get a chance go check out an SFA,Sam Houston or Lamar practice,these are small mid majors and the talent level will open your eyes. [/quote]Good points!

[quote name="eagleswoodville#1" post="937957" timestamp="1293160322"] I wasnt stating that i thought all of them were gonna play major D1 ball. These are the players that have the BEST CHANCE to play ANY college ball. I dont think there is a player in SETX at all that will go too a major D1 program. DC is the only one that has a chance to get on a team. But he wont be too successful if he doesnt up his game. [/quote]Playing "any college ball" doesn't always mean you will have a scholarship.Up his game to what level? Certainly he can play NAIA, D-3, etc. Thats why I think a kid's play should be broken down to what level you think he can play, if he needs to "up his game." ;)

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="937952" timestamp="1293159436"] BludeDove3 D1 mid major, large D1. Anyone have a chance at any college ball. [/quote]The reality is this: The majority of kids want to play [font=Verdana]major [/font]D-1 ball as a first choice. This can be a problem. Ask HJ ;)

[quote name="bacbone9" post="937773" timestamp="1293120702"] [quote author=ABSENT! link=topic=77858.msg937761#msg937761 date=1293117326] Skill level is not a problem... Coaching is... Central has the athletes to win, but the coaching does not improve there skills.  These kids have been good players since coming to Central but the coaching and guidance hasn't helped improving thier skills.  The coaching is failing these kids.  Basketball fundamentals!  Skills?  All Central has players that handle the rock well, has the leapers, has a brute, and has the shooters.... Those are skills.  What they don't have is fundamentals.  When to shoot, how to move the ball, when not to dribble, how to deliver the pass, how to play position defense, and how to beat a particular defense! Those are all about the coaching!  Central is lacking in that area! BISD let me down with this coaches hire! Especiallly after what the examiner released about him.  There is enough talent for Central to be a very good squad! [/quote] You are absolutely right. The skill they come to Central with is the same skills they leave with.They are not getting any better. [/quote]Realize that these kids are also competing for spots at the next level against kids from Houston and Dallas who have personal trainers, former pro players, and college players working with these kids showing them the "game."

[quote name="Two-Dogs..." post="937851" timestamp="1293135522"] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=77550.msg937837#msg937837 date=1293132502] [quote author=apiolar link=topic=77550.msg937820#msg937820 date=1293129003] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=77550.msg934479#msg934479 date=1292547684] [quote author=no-look link=topic=77550.msg934463#msg934463 date=1292546842] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77550.msg934455#msg934455 date=1292545419] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=77550.msg934436#msg934436 date=1292542666] [quote author=wOUTanEXCUSE link=topic=77550.msg934383#msg934383 date=1292536350] ya exactly..10th... Wow...w three district teams ahead of them... Cant say that is a great rating.. [/quote] i'd say it's pretty generous considering they're 12 games into the season without playing a team above 3A, or a quality opponent, for that matter. [/quote]They've played Hamshire Fannett 4 times 8) [/quote]Hamshire Fannett shouldn't have got in their way.... ;D [/quote]I thought HF was winning state this year?  ??? [/quote] :D :D :D :D [/quote]hey wasnt that the talk 2 years ago that this was the year they win it?  :D [/quote] That WAS the talk a couple of years ago but HF is still a 3A school with a 2A team. ;D [/quote]Who is HF ???

The kid from Findley Prep, Joseph is looking good

[quote name="CATMAN" post="937912" timestamp="1293150735"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77858.msg937882#msg937882 date=1293144333] [quote author=ABSENT! link=topic=77858.msg937836#msg937836 date=1293132436] I used to believe you needed great talent to win State.  Dont get me wrong it helps greatly.  But then you see alot of State champs who had no players have any college impact.  Some teams with great players that are a beast in college, end up losing to a better coached less talented squad in highschool.  Examples: Ft Bend Bush went to State last year when Bellaire had way more pure talent! Yates had 6'10 Anthony Jones (Baylor), Joseph, and Peters and lost to a Wheatly team with no next level talent! Texas Tech Mike Singleton stared three years at Tech, but lost to a Duncanville team with couple of College bench players None of the members of FW Dunbar that beat Ozen went directly to a D1 school, while Perk is now a pro, Chappell started D1, Dabney Started D1, Brekenridge played D1, Young started D1 The team with Deron Williams and Bracey Wright did'nt even make the State game that year! Central has some athletes and two basketball players!!! That is enough to compete in 4A! [/quote]Excellent points. There are differences between athletes and basketball players. The problem I've seen among some coaches (and not just high school) is that they don't know how to mix and play them together. ;) [/quote] I thing that the 1st time u have not told a -----. ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote]You meant "stir the pot"  ;D ;D

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="937853" timestamp="1293135666"] Who all do you think will play college basketball in SETX? [/quote]In my opinion, you can't say who will have a shot at D-1 ball. It would probably be better to break it down to major D-1, Mid-Major, JUCO, etc. Major D-1 schools look for certain qualities in a player and Mid-Major schools take whats left.

LOL! Maybe LU should start over signing for scholarship players.

[quote name="ABSENT!" post="937836" timestamp="1293132436"] I used to believe you needed great talent to win State.  Dont get me wrong it helps greatly.  But then you see alot of State champs who had no players have any college impact.  Some teams with great players that are a beast in college, end up losing to a better coached less talented squad in highschool.  Examples: Ft Bend Bush went to State last year when Bellaire had way more pure talent! Yates had 6'10 Anthony Jones (Baylor), Joseph, and Peters and lost to a Wheatly team with no next level talent! Texas Tech Mike Singleton stared three years at Tech, but lost to a Duncanville team with couple of College bench players None of the members of FW Dunbar that beat Ozen went directly to a D1 school, while Perk is now a pro, Chappell started D1, Dabney Started D1, Brekenridge played D1, Young started D1 The team with Deron Williams and Bracey Wright did'nt even make the State game that year! Central has some athletes and two basketball players!!! That is enough to compete in 4A! [/quote]Excellent points. There are differences between athletes and basketball players. The problem I've seen among some coaches (and not just high school) is that they don't know how to mix and play them together. ;)

[quote name="ABSENT!" post="937761" timestamp="1293117326"] Skill level is not a problem... Coaching is... Central has the athletes to win, but the coaching does not improve there skills.  These kids have been good players since coming to Central but the coaching and guidance hasn't helped improving thier skills.  The coaching is failing these kids.  Basketball fundamentals!  Skills?  All Central has players that handle the rock well, has the leapers, has a brute, and has the shooters.... Those are skills.  What they don't have is fundamentals.  When to shoot, how to move the ball, when not to dribble, how to deliver the pass, how to play position defense, and how to beat a particular defense! Those are all about the coaching!  Central is lacking in that area! BISD let me down with this coaches hire! Especiallly after what the examiner released about him.  There is enough talent for Central to be a very good squad! [/quote]I'm in agreement with you. Our definition of "skill" vs athleticism & fundamentals is being interchanged, thats all.

Finally! It took you guys five years to wake up from your dream. At the end of the season you'll once again hear about the team graduation rate.

[quote name="bacbone9" post="937724" timestamp="1293084589"] Man the coaching at Central has completely went down hill since David Green left. Rice has basketball knowledge but lacked discipline with the players. The coach now only has 3 plays on offense and his defense has no rotations what so ever. This conversation came from a player and myself a few days ago. Me: whast up man,how yall looking this year? Player: I don't know,but I know we will be in shape!! Me: Why is that? Player: Man we have been running on the track every day since the 2nd week of school. Me: What??!! Nothing in the gym? no basketball stuff? Player: not at all,running on the track everyday in 4th hour.We learned our first play a week before our first game.He just want us to push the ball for layups and pressure the ball on defense. Me: WOW you cant be serious. Player: He told us all we go have is 3 offensive plays and we better find a way to make them work. not many games will be won like that. [/quote]I admit I've only seen one Central game, but I wasn't too impressed with the skill level those kids showed against Ozen. But they do hustle and get after it. Maybe thats why he has them in shape.

[quote name="mfd814" post="937688" timestamp="1293077721"] I saw WB freshman vs Central freshman in 1st part of season.  WB led almost the whole game, only a 2 on Central stood out. Central did win. but I do  think they have some freshman playing up.  [/quote]oH OKAY, I bet you're referring to the Vincent (sp?) middle school players who have gone on to WB. i HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THEM. ;)

[quote name="mfd814" post="937606" timestamp="1293066037"] There are lots of good freshman in the Golden Triangle area. Hopefully things will get better. Beaumont should have some talent shortly, if the coaching does what it should.  [/quote]I agree. The freshmen group from Central are suppose to be the best. Only time will tell.