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[quote name="mfd814" post="922896" timestamp="1291147699"] That mentality is a huge mountain.  If there has been significant defeat for years/generations, believing in winning instead of almost winning, or we only lost by 10, etc is very hard to over come. 1st you must believe in yourself, then your team, and so on.   [/quote]Yep! Losing will become a habit. It will rub off on others if you're not careful.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922883" timestamp="1291146915"] Maybe because of the HF parents that try to dictate who should be playing for HF and not the coach. ;) ;D Got promote those wannabees. ;D [/quote]yeah right! Evade the question.

[quote name="True Blue" post="922887" timestamp="1291147161"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76807.msg922864#msg922864 date=1291145936] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=76807.msg922857#msg922857 date=1291145638] Bluedove im not a player:) [/quote]to BlackSheep for his (?) comments Expecting consolation? Thats a losers bracket...thus, my comments about the mentality one is dealing with here. [/quote]Yea kind of looks like some showup just to play and others play to win :o [/quote] ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922871" timestamp="1291146444"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76848.msg922869#msg922869 date=1291146194] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922835#msg922835 date=1291142893] Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D [/quote]  Do you have any idea how many times "Sutherland has had his work cut out for him"? [/quote] That's a myth (even though Sutherland and his coaching staff do work hard). HJ has had as much talent at the 3A level as anyone has in this area. They have basketball players, contrary to what some might think. [/quote]I've never heard you say this about HF, WHY NOT?

[quote name="LtXPantherZ" post="922860" timestamp="1291145752"] [quote author=UKCats link=topic=75079.msg893812#msg893812 date=1288636426] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=75079.msg893803#msg893803 date=1288635845] [quote author=UKCats link=topic=75079.msg893798#msg893798 date=1288635352] The first two are good, but what did Liberty and Huffman do that makes them worthy of a 3rd place pick? Splendora or Tarkington have just as good a shot as the next guy. [/quote] Based on what I personally saw last year (saw Splendora, Shepherd, and Tarkington, along with the top two teams mentioned) I wasn't too impressed with those three teams. I say Liberty is the next team after Cleveland and Coldspring. [/quote] I know this is not a fight worth picking since you are the SETX Basketball guru, but I have a hard time putting liberty at 3rd based on last years statistics. We are talking about a Liberty team that only won two district games and had 100 put up on them by two different teams in district. [/quote] EXACTLY your basing a prediction on last years statistics, we can go ahead and base it on this years team and the panthers are very much improved this year compared to last year [/quote]Liberty was in Houston this past sSpring/Summer playing with the big boys. They may have improved.

[quote name="stevenash" post="922865" timestamp="1291146005"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=76588.msg922843#msg922843 date=1291144266] i heard the hunter boys are dropping basketball to go take starting varsity spots on the very successful HF soccer team...  ;D [/quote] That is possible, if they can find the time from Universal Off Season [/quote]Yep, when you really get right down to it, it's all about football conditioning, getting stronger  and  bigger. Notice I didn't say faster.

[quote name="ballin4life" post="922862" timestamp="1291145823"] bluedove i agree with if a kid can play let him, but this is starting to do more harm than good for HF program i wish your kid the best of luck. [/quote]And I'm not asking for him to play varsity. This is the weird part ;)

[quote name="utfan06" post="922857" timestamp="1291145638"] Bluedove im not a player:) [/quote]to BlackSheep for his (?) comments Expecting consolation? Thats a losers bracket...thus, my comments about the mentality one is dealing with here.

[quote name="True Blue" post="922853" timestamp="1291145313"] [quote author=blacksheep link=topic=76807.msg922846#msg922846 date=1291144580] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=76807.msg922746#msg922746 date=1291135617] [quote author=king of swag link=topic=76807.msg922679#msg922679 date=1291129610] dont count HF out....i wouldn't be surprised to see an upset right off the bat.. [/quote] Lol I would be [/quote]even i'm skeptical about a horns victory over kountze. However, I do expect consolation, seeing as how we're kinda [b]getting screwed with this bracket.[/b]   >:( [/quote] How do you get your getting screwed??? Your a 3a club playing in a 1a Tourament ;D And your first draw is a 2a club... [/quote]Now you see the mentality one has to fight against. :D

[quote name="blacksheep" post="922846" timestamp="1291144580"] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=76807.msg922746#msg922746 date=1291135617] [quote author=king of swag link=topic=76807.msg922679#msg922679 date=1291129610] dont count HF out....i wouldn't be surprised to see an upset right off the bat.. [/quote] Lol I would be [/quote]even i'm skeptical about a horns victory over kountze. However, I do expect consolation, seeing as how we're kinda getting screwed with this bracket.   >:( [/quote]Hmm! I hope you're really not a ball player on the team.

[quote name="Tinker" post="922822" timestamp="1291141393"] [quote author=Scalabrine link=topic=76848.msg922814#msg922814 date=1291140399] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76848.msg922810#msg922810 date=1291140028] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922776#msg922776 date=1291137588] Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years. 2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt 2011: Change Is Gonna Come :( 2012:   :'( :'( = crying years 2013:     :'( :'( 2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ 2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[ 2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ [/quote] Regarding your quote on 2011-  Our president told us the same thing-  So far, it does not appear as though there was much "change we could believe in".  If the president cannot get it done, how are you going to do it, Dove? [/quote]These 2 guys are suppose to be "Hawk Killas" and put H.F on the Map!! [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [/quote]Dose not even show the basket. And it's alot harder when you are being guarded to make that shot. [/quote]That was just a practice session. Don't you hate those You Tube videos with the players making every shot they throw up?

Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D

[quote name="stevenash" post="922811" timestamp="1291140117"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76803.msg922736#msg922736 date=1291135002] [quote author=Pumper link=topic=76803.msg922731#msg922731 date=1291134664] I will say this about the size thing.  The best 5A team I ever saw was the 1985 Houston Madison team.  40-0 and state champs.  No player over 6'6", but deep and loaded.  Most players between 6'1" and 6'5".  8 kids off that team got scholarships (Tech, Baylor, Houston, TSU, Central Florida, various smaller schools & jucos).  I think their closest game that year was 11 points, but their avg. margin was about 25 or so. [/quote]  yeah! yeah! yeah! They win ONLY ONE State title and you giving them props like that :P :D [/quote] Hey Dove, what about that "soon to be dead HJ program"?  They have multiple state titles [/quote]And a brand new gym to house all those old trophies like at my old schools. ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="922810" timestamp="1291140028"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922776#msg922776 date=1291137588] Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years. 2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt 2011: Change Is Gonna Come :( 2012:   :'( :'( = crying years 2013:     :'( :'( 2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ 2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[ 2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ [/quote] Regarding your quote on 2011-  Our president told us the same thing-  So far, it does not appear as though there was much "change we could believe in".  If the president cannot get it done, how are you going to do it, Dove? [/quote]wHO AM i TO MAKE A BLIND MAN SEE THAT HE HAS ON TWO RIGHT SHOES?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922800" timestamp="1291139018"] I believe Dove referenced someone totally different than me. He said AggiesAreNot, not me. We do have a poster who goes by AggiesAreNot. BTW, you are correct, I am all about getting a proper education. ;D [/quote]AggiesAre-NOt = YOU! From Silsbee

[quote name="speechless" post="922786" timestamp="1291137977"] i hear hj is already researching the consequences/costs of cancelling the program all together [/quote] :D I love it!

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922779" timestamp="1291137700"] Nice to know that Silsbee is not in this conversation. ;) ;D [/quote]Realistically speaking, Silsbee has that 9th grade team that will make some noise in the future. I didn't want to mention them because I know you're from there

[quote name="ABSENT!" post="922774" timestamp="1291137528"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76803.msg922768#msg922768 date=1291137194] [quote author=ABSENT! link=topic=76803.msg922763#msg922763 date=1291136876] The crazy thing is that there is not even a 6'4" baller on WB or Central.... It is so weird to me!  Ozen does get alot of the height and they are the only current bball progam in BMT [/quote]What about PA Memorial? Any bigs? [/quote] PA keeps nice size... At least a 6'6 plus.  And alot of there skill guys are around 6'3! [/quote]That sounds about right for 5-A traditionally.

Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years. 2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt 2011: Change Is Gonna Come :( 2012:  :'( :'( = crying years 2013:    :'( :'( 2014:      :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ 2015:        :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[ 2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

[quote name="ABSENT!" post="922763" timestamp="1291136876"] The crazy thing is that there is not even a 6'4" baller on WB or Central.... It is so weird to me!  Ozen does get alot of the height and they are the only current bball progam in BMT [/quote]What about PA Memorial? Any bigs?

[quote name="KHSAlum400" post="922755" timestamp="1291136491"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76588.msg922748#msg922748 date=1291135803] [quote author=KHSAlum400 link=topic=76588.msg922739#msg922739 date=1291135185] Looks like H-F is content with being a "sub-par" Varsity team.  ::) You play the game to win, not make friends or buddies. I wouldn't care if you had 10 Seniors on a team, and 2 Freshmen who were better than all 10. My job is to win the game if if those Freshmen are going to help me do it, then so be it. [/quote]And I'm sure you feel this way because you're use to being in a winning environment. It gets lonely at the top doesn't it  :) [/quote] Blue, we know what it takes to win.  :D When I see a kid in middle school lighting up the nets in Kountze during our pick up games I can't wait to see him slip that Varsity uniform on his FRESHMAN year.  :D :D You see where "team chemistry" and "loyalty" got Miami's coach Randy Shannon. Kountze ISD is an exemplary school district. If you're looking for a quality education, along with some good basketball, I have some real estate for sale in Kountze.  ;) [/quote] :D Now if we can keep AggiesAre-Not off the phone from UIL ;D

[quote name="KHSAlum400" post="922739" timestamp="1291135185"] Looks like H-F is content with being a "sub-par" Varsity team.  ::) You play the game to win, not make friends or buddies. I wouldn't care if you had 10 Seniors on a team, and 2 Freshmen who were better than all 10. My job is to win the game if if those Freshmen are going to help me do it, then so be it. [/quote]And I'm sure you feel this way because you're use to being in a winning environment. It gets lonely at the top doesn't it  :)

[quote name="Pumper" post="922731" timestamp="1291134664"] I will say this about the size thing.  The best 5A team I ever saw was the 1985 Houston Madison team.  40-0 and state champs.  No player over 6'6", but deep and loaded.  Most players between 6'1" and 6'5".  8 kids off that team got scholarships (Tech, Baylor, Houston, TSU, Central Florida, various smaller schools & jucos).  I think their closest game that year was 11 points, but their avg. margin was about 25 or so. [/quote]  yeah! yeah! yeah! They win ONLY ONE State title and you giving them props like that :P :D

[quote name="blacksheep" post="922727" timestamp="1291134221"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76588.msg922722#msg922722 date=1291133819] [quote author=blacksheep link=topic=76588.msg922719#msg922719 date=1291133398] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76588.msg922709#msg922709 date=1291132388] [quote author=Dav-J link=topic=76588.msg922693#msg922693 date=1291131197] BlueDove - Have you discussed your concerns with the Varsity Basketball coach in private ? I'm sure the coach is aware of your son's ability and potential. A little communication in private possibly would answer your concerns. Then if you need to "rent" that house from AAW, go for it. Hope your sons do well and continue to enjoy playing the game. [/quote]Nope! Haven't talked with him. I always thought your talent or lack thereof should do the talking for you. ;) [/quote]not always talent that makes up a coaches mind. [/quote]There is one thing in life I have learned about coaching, young man. You can only hide talent for so long. It rises to the top some kind of way. You can't stop it. But your paycheck will. ;) [/quote]How many times can I say? No one is saying the kid isn't good, and no one can because he is very good, but talent isn't the only thing that matters. [/quote]Why do you keep bringing up my son? He's not the answer to your team problems. ::)

I know what it may be from: Too much inside play with video games and not enough sun ;D