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[quote name="lu cards" post="766185" timestamp="1267116383"] roc will get another year.i cant see lamar having another year like the last two and him keeping his job.one thing i can say about roc is he's doing a good job graduating players. [/quote]Yep, there we go! I knew by the end of the season the graduation rate would start coming out......r u Roc??  LOL?

[quote name="ShayneBasketball" post="766184" timestamp="1267116371"] Ozen first varsity season they went 16-14 with Coach Boutte losing in the second round. People were saying the same thing back then. For example, people would say why Coach Boutte playing those young guys and he don't know what he doing. The next season Ozen went 23- 7 losing to T.J. in the quarterfinals by one. People were saying Coach Boutte should be fired. Then in 2001 those same young players lead Ozen to their only State Championship. Then Coach Boutte became a Legend. I will give you another example of a great coach needing some time to win a championship. Coach Gamble went about 15 years before he won his first championship at Lincoln and people were saying get him out of town. So just relax and calm down. [/quote]Thats right! Look at your football team. Every school hits a dry spell and reloads.

[quote name="desethion" post="766160" timestamp="1267114460"] our freshman and soph class of pplayers will be able to have all of yall on the bandwagon again. our soph class only loss one game as freshman and two freshman played varsity that year. we had 6 soph on varsity this year. so for the next couple of years yall are in trouble. we started 2 soph. i freshman class lost two game this years to only nederland and might i add we beat them twice as well. our underneath levels beat memorial, nederland, silsbee,png, vidors,livingston,and the rest of the i dont really play basketball schools. we took a bunch of freshman and selected soph to a varsity tournament and places 3rd but had chances to win it all and that tournament was held by a state rank 2a team and serveral other we beat. stop hating on ozen you will be on the wagon again. [/quote]I'm not hat'n on Ozen. I like the program over there. I'm only saying your not going to have your dynasty like in years passed

[quote name="Bobcat05" post="766121" timestamp="1267111027"] Who do they have coming back?  Is there another state championship team coming up? Seems they just fell off these last two years. [/quote]The quality of competition has fallen in Beaumont. There are good players but none that I have seen so far who can carry a team. I've seen the kids go to Houston and play above average AAU teams and get blown out of the games.

[quote name="hfmom08" post="765825" timestamp="1267061038"] [quote author=baseball25 link=topic=65861.msg765580#msg765580 date=1267036748] Need to bring somebody new into the program, not a coach that has been there before or is already there. [/quote] Mangan was new in the program, not a coach that had been there before and not from anywhere in the area and look where that got him -- so what's your next suggestion?  We've had coaches from in the area, out of the area, promoted from within(been there before), and already there.  This has been said before -- The problem lies deeper and yes the school board, community, parents and kids will all need to recognize the real problems at HF before we see improvement/success no matter who is there.   All sports under the athletic program need support from all of those mentioned above.  I attended basketball games at WOS, HJ and Orangefield where community, parental and peer support was present.  I attended basketball game[u]s[/u] at HF(HOME GAMES) where the cheerleaders were not dressed out and cheering on their team (peers).  I do understand that the sponsor had a baby during the basketball season but was no one else able to step in and be a co-sponsor? I could go on but my whole point is many things need to change, get with the program, HF is being left behind in athletics. [/quote]Good points! I think I'll try and attend some board meetings and see what plans are in the works for the athletic program, especially regarding the future of the basketball program @ HF

[quote name="CATMAN" post="765850" timestamp="1267063231"] [quote author=whsalum link=topic=66475.msg765816#msg765816 date=1267060258] We hear all the time about big school basketball but the loser of these 3 games scored 29,37 and 47 points respectively.With the type of baskeball players that are in Beaumont there is no reason not to be able to score.You won't beat anyone scoring 29 points in the regular season must less the playoffs.There are some small school guys that could elevate these programs but I don't know why they would want to work in BISD.Wait let me think,anyone that can pay their superintendent 300k could probably make you find a reason. [/quote] You are on the hit list Whsalum talking about BISD like i am ;D ;D ;D [/quote]What about Big Sandy's supt? I bet he makes a lot of money.

[quote name="CATMAN" post="765709" timestamp="1267050482"] [quote author=shorttexas1 link=topic=66460.msg765626#msg765626 date=1267040988] Bellaire has the best talent but the worse coaching out of that bunch! [/quote] You are so right short. [/quote]I have to disagree. I can assure you that the Bellaire coach receives texts from the bleachers during the games to make his adjustments. He can't see everything.

Very good assessment on belllaire. Still think they will run into this in Austin.

[quote name="shorttexas1" post="765625" timestamp="1267040951"] Hoop, you so right... Dvoe you so wrong... The Fortbend top three will give Bellaire fits.. And Don't leave out Kingwood! [/quote]Bellaire will win. Too much talent Short 8)

[quote name="baddog" post="765653" timestamp="1267043533"] Geographically, Houston is in southeast Texas. Then you have the ''Greater Houston Area'' which includes what surrounding areas??........so what is your point? [color=goldenrod][size=18pt]Oh yeah......''How 'Bout 'Dem Bulldogs??"[/size][/color] [/quote]No one in Houston knows anything about Beaumont unless they have  moved from this area.

[quote name="picnroll" post="765615" timestamp="1267039552"] just curious......how big is this area and where does it stop.......Seems like Beaumont Area gets larger after their teams are out...... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/quote]They'll keep going as far as Baytown and Liberty area to claim a S.E.Texas winner ;)

[quote name="The GOAT" post="765595" timestamp="1267037549"]   :'( :-X :'( :-X :'( :-X :'( :-X :'( :-X [/quote]Goota wait till next season again. And whats worse is that baseball season is about to start...sheez!

[quote name="HORNS R #1" post="765588" timestamp="1267037069"] brought them to the playoffs for the first time in like 15 years [/quote]So why did he leave the AD position?

[quote name="bullets13" post="765563" timestamp="1267035305"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66383.msg765547#msg765547 date=1267033067] [quote author=CRUSHCOACH link=topic=66383.msg765532#msg765532 date=1267031552] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=66383.msg765010#msg765010 date=1266970043] [quote author=CRUSHCOACH link=topic=66383.msg764974#msg764974 date=1266965059] I don't agree. Balbay has played great defense all year and he takes care of the ball. Brown has turnover after turnover in big games and his defense is no where near Balbay's. [/quote] brown has cut down drastically on the turnovers, and his defense has steadily improved. [/quote] I hope Brown proves me wrong for sure. I would love to see the Horns in the Final Four this year. But they have to get more consistant all around and start making some dad gum FREE THROWS ! [/quote]How about Sweet 16! [/quote] they have the talent to make the final four, but not the cohesion.  i'll be very pleased if they can make it to the sweet 16.  of course, IF they make it that far, and gain some confidence and momentum, they're good enough to beat anyone! [/quote]Big 12 will have Texas run down by then. We're back to disagreeing again. The honeymoon was short-lived! :D

[quote name="HORNS R #1" post="765579" timestamp="1267036703"] [quote author=horndawg link=topic=65861.msg765568#msg765568 date=1267035594] [quote author=Horn 04 link=topic=65861.msg765564#msg765564 date=1267035405] Hire from within a 0-10 program? If they do it will raise eyebrows.  Hopefully they will support him if that happens. [/quote] If I'm not mistaken, Tilton was there in the Tarver years as well. Not positive, but I think that's correct. [/quote]yes you are correct he was Tarvers DC for about 10 year till 94 were he left to go AD Deweville [/quote]hMM? So what did Tilton do as AD @ Deweyville?

[quote name="CRUSHCOACH" post="765532" timestamp="1267031552"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=66383.msg765010#msg765010 date=1266970043] [quote author=CRUSHCOACH link=topic=66383.msg764974#msg764974 date=1266965059] I don't agree. Balbay has played great defense all year and he takes care of the ball. Brown has turnover after turnover in big games and his defense is no where near Balbay's. [/quote] brown has cut down drastically on the turnovers, and his defense has steadily improved. [/quote] I hope Brown proves me wrong for sure. I would love to see the Horns in the Final Four this year. But they have to get more consistant all around and start making some dad gum FREE THROWS ! [/quote]How about Sweet 16!

So what are the qualifications do you think these guys need to have?

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="765457" timestamp="1267025199"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66475.msg765435#msg765435 date=1267022402] [quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=66475.msg765395#msg765395 date=1267017866] Everyone's been saying it's a down yr this is no surprise [/quote]I find it interesting how the talent pool kind of run in cycles. I could see the Beaumont area product going down, but it will come back again. [/quote] Yep unfortunately for you EC is coming way up the next few years and won't have much problem with the shorthorns ;D [/quote]hahahahahah! You may be right! But it ain't gonna be as easy

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="765465" timestamp="1267025587"] Not really surprised here!!!!!!! [/quote]Hey, I could have said AAU out of Houston ;D

[quote name="ST413" post="765245" timestamp="1266982127"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=66470.msg765235#msg765235 date=1266981875] [quote author=HoopInsider_Cooper link=topic=66470.msg765232#msg765232 date=1266981729] [font=Courier]1st time ever all 3 bmt schools out after 1st round.[/font] [/quote] What is the Enterprise and local TV stations gonna do now? ;D [/quote] They will start following Yates!!!! [/quote]oR  follow Little Dribblers!

This team has something to prove this year.

Sorry homeless. Bush cannot handle Bellaire. On any given night a team can lose but these kids are on a mission. I'll get uneasy with Bellaire after they get to Austin.

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="765395" timestamp="1267017866"] Everyone's been saying it's a down yr this is no surprise [/quote]I find it interesting how the talent pool kind of run in cycles. I could see the Beaumont area product going down, but it will come back again.

[quote name="CATMAN" post="765330" timestamp="1266987494"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66460.msg765323#msg765323 date=1266986691] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=66460.msg765317#msg765317 date=1266986318] :o :o Ouch!!j I guess its save to say that Memorial did good not playing Jack Yates... [/quote]dang, took the words right out of my computer screen [/quote] Well BLUE what do u think is Bellaire safe now. [/quote]Regionals? Yes!

[quote name="Dirty D" post="765413" timestamp="1267020461"] Lets get someone to get the kids back out [/quote]I'm curious! So the kids who didn't play sports @ HF were the best athletes and missing in action? Or are we talking about numbers only? It's hard for me to digest that a good athlete sat out in sports because of the coach.