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[quote name="bullets13" post="756435" timestamp="1265537382"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65738.msg756429#msg756429 date=1265522032] i tried to tell you UT lovers the the Big 12 were going to be beating up on each other. [b]OU has a very good team.    [/quote][/b] they've come a long way.  this freshman kid has turned into a beast for them.  if he'd been playing like this all season, they'd be a tourney team. [/quote]Tommy Mason-Griffith has been given the green light at OU to do his thing now. Thats staright from the coach ;)

[quote name="whsalum" post="755358" timestamp="1265338523"] [quote author=Kris_Gilmore link=topic=65604.msg755331#msg755331 date=1265332507] Just out of curiosity how many D1 Athletes have come out of HF in all sports in the last 10 years?  Not that many.  I am a coach and people don't realize how talented you have to be in order to get an athletic scholarship.  I can think of 3 or 4, and D2, D3, and Junior colleges don't count. What people don't understand is at the 3A level it sometimes takes more than being the District MVP or making it to the state meet in a particular sport in order to get an athletic scholarship. [/quote]The only thing I disagree with in this statement is D2,D3 and JUCO don't count.You have to be a great player at the 3-a level to even get a look at these colleges.The only basketball player I can remember recently that even got a D1 look was Donahoe from HJ and he was state MVP. [/quote]Small D-1......LOOKS! You have to have some serious skills if you're 3A.

i tried to tell you UT lovers the the Big 12 were going to be beating up on each other. OU has a very good team. 

[quote name="hfresident" post="755556" timestamp="1265386784"] The problems start at the middle school....coaches tell parents and players "We don't have time to teach basketball." [/quote]I think the coaches have time to teach plays and work on the defense. The shooting, dribbling, and passing (which is still a minor part of the game) has to done during the off-season. Now the one thing I admire the middle school coaches at HF are doing is to have open gym after practice till 5:30. I see some players take advantage to stick around and shoot, dribble and play 3 on 3, where you get addtional reps.

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="755568" timestamp="1265388075"] Honestly, I think a major factor is HF doesn't practice basketball year round to my knowledge. Don't they just play in season? Thats a huge disadvantage if that is true. You have to build that comradery in the off season with your teammates and you have to constantly be getting better because everyone else is. [/quote]I'm not sure if they play together during the summer months. Maybe someone has an answer.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="754681" timestamp="1265230200"] It's very simple(but in some cases, impossible). HF has to change three things, the culture, the environment, and the mindset. They have to play the game more(culture), upgrade the practice and facilities(environment) and decide to make the basketball program a higher priority sport(mindset). Basketball is not played by many and not enough there at HF. They have to practice the game and enhance where they practice and how they practice. Most importantly, basketball cannot be 4th or 5th on the totem pole, it has to move up in the pecking order. Get those things set in place, you'll see improvement in the program. But like I said, in some places, that's impossible. ;) [/quote]Aggie, I think you have made some very good points.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="755133" timestamp="1265309061"] Chad representing SETX on the show!! Click the link and click on the archived show of 2-3-10. [Hidden Content] [/quote]I'm going to go to the archives to watch. This is good for S.E. Texas because some people have never heard of this place. ;D

[quote name="LemonGello" post="754705" timestamp="1265231905"] Coach Roc will be back next season.  He has a young nucleus of talented players that will continue to improve.  His coaching staff is quality and experience.  This is the right bunch of coaches to move the program upward, but patience and time is required.  No coach could be more dedicated to LU than Roc. [/quote]Hmm? In other words, LU fans need to have 4 more years of patience.

So what are the suggestions to get the athletic department more involved with communicating with the HF community and discuss common goals? I know for a fact the coaches don't like losing, what coach does? Maybe a townhall meeting with the athletic dept.

[quote name="GCMPats" post="754872" timestamp="1265252391"] Ouch! The G-town Boy's take one on the chin from South Florida tonight. [/quote]S. Flordia has a good team.

I was hoping one of the coaches or administrators would also respond to this thread ??? ??? ???what do you say guys? I know some of you read this forum.

Okay, I want to put this out in the open and look at the various comments (pro or con)  about the HF program. I am somewhat neutral because I know nothing about the program or the coaches. The only thing I know is that there is not a winning program in place, why? I'd like to hear from people and your thoughts on improving the program.

[quote name="bullets13" post="754569" timestamp="1265221797"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65515.msg754469#msg754469 date=1265212667] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=65515.msg754458#msg754458 date=1265211187] Well Pitt was no match for us earlier this year. Georgetown doesn't match up with us IMO. I think wvu is overrated. But Nova has much better guards than Us and matches our depth. They could beat us. Cuse is very long and athletic. We struggle shooting at times so I think their 2-3 zone will give us trouble. Those 2 teams will give us trouble. [/quote]Tx will never get past Syracuse. Better hope they are in different regions. [/quote] texas could beat any team in the country, Syracuse included.  If they played 10 times, i'd bet it'd go 60/40 or 50/50.  [/quote]You would go and spoil your props I gave you from another thread >:( :(

[quote name="bullets13" post="754567" timestamp="1265221715"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65561.msg754431#msg754431 date=1265208505] This is sad! I can't believe you guys ran up the score on poor little BC. You know they're only baseball players over there. [/quote] they called off the dogs... it could've been 274...  ;D [/quote]hahahhaha! Now, you're beginning to see the light; yelow-gold and red.

[quote name="Tiger05" post="754544" timestamp="1265220162"] [quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=65560.msg754532#msg754532 date=1265219202] It's really sad when you have talent on a team and they aren't "allowed" to play basketball until the fourth quarter when the game is already somewhat out of reach.  I believe basketball is somewhat of a rhythm sport and you can't get into a "rhythm" just in the fourth quarter.  It has to start in the beginning (first quarter) and continue through the end of the game.   Yes, you have to allow room for error and yes you also have to correct some errors but I don't feel that one turnover or one bad pass or one foul or one missed shot is a reason to pull a player.  If the broadcast is still up you can watch the Silsbee vs HJ game and see that there were numerous turnovers just in the first quarter/half on both sides but the "rhythm" set in and players settled down and got it together.  I really hope a "change gon come" SOON at HF.  Believe it or not the HF teams can hang with the best of them. [/quote] I think that if HF would have played some tougher competition before district it would have helped them out some. Take Legacy for example that is undefeated in district play HF will need to play some tougher competition if they want to compete with Silsbee & HJ List of a few teams HF played before district: Liberty Deweyville Tarkington Deweyville Buna Milburn Academy Sabine Pass Vidor It is hard to get in a rhythm when you are going up agianst something you have never seen before [/quote]Interesting point you make! I also felt HF's schedule was weak but maybe there is a reason why , and only the coach can probably answer this question.

[quote name="AJ25" post="754474" timestamp="1265212886"] I'd rather have better facilities and worse parking. [/quote]I'd rather have a winning program and worse parking ;D

[quote name="coachacola" post="754487" timestamp="1265213715"] I think he'll be back next year.  Tubbs will probably see how well they do next year with all the freshmen coming in.  Now if he had a lot of seniors on the team this year and was doing this poorly he'd definitely be gone at the end of the season. [/quote]I agree, he's not going anywhere after this season.

In my best Dandy Don voice "turn off da lights."

And look at how much parking space it took. Can you imagine the traffic jam for the first 6-7 home  games?

[quote name="Castor27" post="754455" timestamp="1265210937"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65561.msg754431#msg754431 date=1265208505] This is sad! I can't believe you guys ran up the score on poor little BC. You know they're only baseball players over there. [/quote] Their coach should have made them play better defense  ;) [/quote] :D :D

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="754458" timestamp="1265211187"] Well Pitt was no match for us earlier this year. Georgetown doesn't match up with us IMO. I think wvu is overrated. But Nova has much better guards than Us and matches our depth. They could beat us. Cuse is very long and athletic. We struggle shooting at times so I think their 2-3 zone will give us trouble. Those 2 teams will give us trouble. [/quote]Tx will never get past Syracuse. Better hope they are in different regions.

[quote name="tjcfan08" post="754434" timestamp="1265208976"] I think it ended up 64-47 Orangefield.... [/quote]Thanks

This is sad! I can't believe you guys ran up the score on poor little BC. You know they're only baseball players over there.

[quote name="bleed orange" post="754187" timestamp="1265164318"] Sorry wrong score. Orangefield 26-8 at the half. [/quote]Are you serious? So what was the final score?

[quote name="GCMPats" post="754403" timestamp="1265202123"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65515.msg754324#msg754324 date=1265171643] [quote author=GCMPats link=topic=65515.msg754068#msg754068 date=1265148353] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65515.msg754052#msg754052 date=1265147144] yEP, but a Big East Conference school will tame the Horns when it matters during March Madness. ;D [/quote] Let's see: 'Nova - Nope 'Cuse- Not happenin' WV- Uh uh Georgetown - never Pitt- come on man So I'm gonna have to say NO! [/quote]stick to high school in Baytown, Texas.  :P [/quote] Does this mean you disagree with my assesment?    Texas won some big games early in the year. They have hit a "wall" the past few weeks. But come Tournamant time, your Big East teams will not be able to hang with the Horns. [/quote]yEP, I disagree with your comments. We'll see by March Madness