BLUEDOVE3

[quote name="pearorchard fb guru" post="698164" timestamp="1257453078"] ozen will go underfeated in district this year... no doubt about it [/quote]You sipping on some bad suds to believe this ;D

Failure brings out the soul of a true champion. Da Dove

[quote name="BHFAN" post="698013" timestamp="1257445434"] Heck he can come to Barbers Hill we will let him fail for many years before his job would be in question ;D [/quote]Let's flip a coin............Hamshire Fannett or Barbers Hill with the stipulation that he doesn't visit your campus during the process ;D

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="697480" timestamp="1257389603"] HF has a strong girls program and the baseball program has always been competitive. [/quote]HF has a elementary coach who start the girls young and works with them. They are scheduled to play Lumberton this weekend. Coach Moore drills and practice the girls. He's all about basketball and learning the game.

[quote name="lu cards" post="697522" timestamp="1257391400"] didnt get to stay long but have a few observations.nwevo still has hands of brick.the new pg harris looked good.nabors looked better than i thought he would.plenty of size.overall looked a little rusty but can see the potential.cant wait to see them against another team. [/quote]I wonder if thats the same pg I saw one day. He looked quick going to the middle, but I onlysaw him for a brief second

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="697610" timestamp="1257396915"] Bottom line is hf basketball gets no respect because they haven't been successful as of late [/quote]True!

[quote name="LU Baseball Fan" post="696403" timestamp="1257303554"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=59395.msg695765#msg695765 date=1257267502] Maybe they realized with all the construction going on to the stadium it just didn't make sense to put the turf down.  I do think they will be doing more to the stadium than they originally planned because they are spending more money and construction costs have actually decreased because of the bad economy. [/quote] They are a long way from being ready to lay turf.  I agree that the turf should be the last thing done but they could go ahead and do drainage and rock,  would be a lot less messy.  Just do final grading and then lay turf....  Of course I really do not care as long as it is finished at the right time.  Just strange that is was suppose to be a 90 day job from June 1..... [/quote]Too many Aggies involved with the project.

[quote name="stevenash" post="696597" timestamp="1257336366"] [quote author=team first link=topic=61413.msg696440#msg696440 date=1257305196] Sir or Mam?..Actually AAU is played until kids graduate from h.s. which is about 18 yrs old..Little dribblers is usually played from 8 to 14 yrs old, with a few exceptions...The posters who talk about the universal off-season have a pretty good idea of what it does for the average h.s. basketball program...Which is not much..Most basketball coaches are looking for basketball players, not guys who look good in a mirror. [/quote] Lets get real honest here.  Universal Off Season is a code word for "Make em all football players because every other sport is secondary"   Thats fine if everyone is on the same page and the only priority is to make football a success.  However, if a school/coach/administration chooses to embrace the Universal Off Season approach, that school will definitely "pay the price" in other sports and it seems to be most evident in basketball.  The "Whats wrong with UOS, it will just make them bigger, stronger, and faster" theory sounds good but the results do not support the theory.  If the players need to lift weights, why not let it be done under the supervision of the primary sport coach? [/quote]Interesting, I guess maybe we should look for property in Sour Lake as a back-up against the UOS .

[quote name="stevenash" post="697151" timestamp="1257370399"] [quote author=Ron Burgundy link=topic=61413.msg696632#msg696632 date=1257343234] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=61413.msg696597#msg696597 date=1257336366] [quote author=team first link=topic=61413.msg696440#msg696440 date=1257305196] Sir or Mam?..Actually AAU is played until kids graduate from h.s. which is about 18 yrs old..Little dribblers is usually played from 8 to 14 yrs old, with a few exceptions...The posters who talk about the universal off-season have a pretty good idea of what it does for the average h.s. basketball program...Which is not much..Most basketball coaches are looking for basketball players, not guys who look good in a mirror. [/quote] Lets get real honest here.  Universal Off Season is a code word for "Make em all football players because every other sport is secondary"   Thats fine if everyone is on the same page and the only priority is to make football a success.  However, if a school/coach/administration chooses to embrace the Universal Off Season approach, that school will definitely "pay the price" in other sports and it seems to be most evident in basketball.  The "Whats wrong with UOS, it will just make them bigger, stronger, and faster" theory sounds good but the results do not support the theory.  If the players need to lift weights, why not let it be done under the supervision of the primary sport coach? [/quote] See, American people make sense. Canadians like Steve Nash are traitors and should go back to Canada. [/quote]\Steve Nash may be considered a traitor, but, Canadian or not, is quite conversant with basketball [/quote]Good, then you know HF will win State in 2015?

[quote name="stevenash" post="696597" timestamp="1257336366"] [quote author=team first link=topic=61413.msg696440#msg696440 date=1257305196] Sir or Mam?..Actually AAU is played until kids graduate from h.s. which is about 18 yrs old..Little dribblers is usually played from 8 to 14 yrs old, with a few exceptions...The posters who talk about the universal off-season have a pretty good idea of what it does for the average h.s. basketball program...Which is not much..Most basketball coaches are looking for basketball players, not guys who look good in a mirror. [/quote] Lets get real honest here.  Universal Off Season is a code word for "Make em all football players because every other sport is secondary"   Thats fine if everyone is on the same page and the only priority is to make football a success.  However, if a school/coach/administration chooses to embrace the Universal Off Season approach, that school will definitely "pay the price" in other sports and it seems to be most evident in basketball.  The "Whats wrong with UOS, it will just make them bigger, stronger, and faster" theory sounds good but the results do not support the theory.  If the players need to lift weights, why not let it be done under the supervision of the primary sport coach? [/quote]Wow! I actually agree with you. You make $ents. ;)

[quote name="team first" post="695940" timestamp="1257277207"] Actually the AAU circuit has alot to do with schools that have universal off-seasons and want to be good in H.S. basketball..If they dont play in school..they better be playing somewhere or...see ya.blown by...What happened, look how strong we are, why cant we make those jumpers??? [/quote]Sir or Mam? I'm not following what you are saying. First of all, if you're in high school playing, its summer ball and not AAU ball. AAU ball usally  has ages from 8 years on up to 14 years old and they have age and grade requirements and you pay the organization dues to participate in sanctioned tournaments. So I am assuming you are talking about summer ball for high school students. Futhermore, I think it's a myth if you lift weights in [font=Verdana]high school [/font] you will miss your jumpers or whatever. It's good to strengthen your self and it gives you a mental advantage of feeling strong and ready to compete. In high school, I have no problem with the kids doing weights. Their bodies are stronger and need the added muscle to battle.

[quote name="team first" post="695883" timestamp="1257274354"] Dove....Will your kid or the 2013-2015 teams reach their full potential out there???  Will the universal off-season help them become the reg. finalist you thought they may become? Is the AAU circuit enough to propel them to the title...Alot to be desired and alot to be known here in a few short years. [/quote]Kid? AAU circuit? Lets nix the thought right now. My kid (actually I have two :P)nor AAU has nothing to do with Hamshire winning a state title in 2015.  One kid can't play 4 other opposing players by himself. Hmmm? I've never seen in box -n-4 ;) But anyway, when you mix in some of Hamshire's 2013,2014 and 2015 players, you will have a group of good ball players who can go all the way to State. Sure there are other factors involved, darn football for one. Why risk injury playing on sub par football teams that may not go anywhere? Coaching is another. I have no idea who are the coaches nor their experiences. But I hope they are good. But you are right about a couple of things: A lot to be desired and a lot will be known in a few short years. Now, if we can just get the boys to believe the hype :D

[quote name="Ron Burgundy" post="695350" timestamp="1257219779"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=61413.msg695083#msg695083 date=1257208382] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61413.msg694291#msg694291 date=1257172079] Lets see, hamshire's basketball tryouts begin Nov. 9th and I think weight lifting begins the same week....sheez! [/quote] The theory, in this case, is its easier to make a basketball player(from a football coaches perspective) out of a weight lifter than it is to make a weight lifter (aka football player) out of a basketball player. [/quote] Steve Nash is a Canadian traitor!! He left the Mavericks and went to those horrible Phoenix Suns! Don't listen to him! [/quote]Actually Stevie is 100% correct.

[quote name="no-look" post="695195" timestamp="1257212901"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61360.msg690496#msg690496 date=1256920996] [quote author=Kelly Basketball link=topic=61360.msg690421#msg690421 date=1256916905] Was the guard white? If so that would be Christian Sanders. He is a very talented ball player and a good point guard. They also have another point guard who is talented as well named Anthony Culberson. Their bigs are Jeremy King, Aaron Durley, Chase Kammerer (sp?), and they have one more. They lost Trey Guidry to St. Pius, but it might be for the best because it will open up playing time for some of their bigs. Talk about an embarassment of riches, that would be St. Thomas. Kelly will have their work cut out for them, but that is a long way off yet. [/quote]The one guard whom I paid the most attention to seemed to be bi-racial. [/quote]Canadian mixed with a little French? [/quote]That ain't bi-racial. Thats bi-nationality ;D

[quote name="HORNSFAN86" post="694754" timestamp="1257192211"] It really does not matter to me, I like them both. We have a horrible team but at least they look good when they are getting the Sh_t kicked out of them. [/quote]True dat! They do look good in the uniforms.

[quote name="coachacola" post="694955" timestamp="1257199323"] Bluedove, will you be there to give us a scouting report on the team? [/quote]Hmmm? I may not be able to make this one.

[quote name="stevenash" post="634670" timestamp="1251775235"] [quote author=no-look link=topic=58548.msg634666#msg634666 date=1251774849] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=58548.msg634660#msg634660 date=1251774563] Yes, No look, the sky suite is yours.  As for meals and adult beverages, yours will be ordered via GPS and delivered to you ready to eat and drink.  No need to look for restaurants.  One feature you should be looking for is a radio frequency wave9not detectable by the human eye) that repels basketballs as they approach the basket.  Should absolutely guarantee HJ a place in the final. [/quote]Amazing!......did it get its start with hanging chads? [/quote] You really should not be revealing confidential information.  Here is something else you can look forward to.  Latest product development is a radar jammer that will be marketed as "Gestapo Stopper".  Already in confidential talks with Apple about making this application available on the I-Phone. [/quote]I have a G1

[quote name="bedelmon" post="694905" timestamp="1257196888"] Well, I dont know who any of you are but I am hearing speculation that The HJ coach was scared to play West Orange. My son called me from school at two oclock to let me know that they were playing. His jr High coach told him. Then about 45 minutes later I get an email from my wife that was sent from our AD saying the games were cancelled. So our Junior High coaches, to me, obviously thought we were playing. When my boys got home, they were very upset. I guarantee you, our boys are not afraid to play anyone. If the coaches or AD's decided it was best to not play, I'm sure they had a good reason. At least I hope they did. If your not a junior high coach or the AD, then I have trouble believing you know the "true story". We were told the games were cancelled because of the threat of severe weather. Like I told the guy or kid earlier, our boys are not scared, I don't know about the coaches, but not the boys. [/quote]probably best yall didn't play. WO-S would have ran all over yall :o

[quote name="Cat22" post="694720" timestamp="1257190740"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=60593.msg694526#msg694526 date=1257183386] [quote author=Bobcat05 link=topic=60593.msg670802#msg670802 date=1255196941] 1. Hardin Jefferson 2. Orangefield 3. Hamshire Fannett 4. West Orange-Stark 5. Silsbee 6. Bridge City [/quote]Hm? Obviously someone at TexPrep sees the building blocks for Hamshire Fannett basketball in it's infancy. [/quote] You think they should be ranked above HJ and OF? [/quote]I have to go with Orangefield. They seem to take their basketball a little more seriously over there.

[quote name="Bobcat05" post="670802" timestamp="1255196941"] 1. Hardin Jefferson 2. Orangefield 3. Hamshire Fannett 4. West Orange-Stark 5. Silsbee 6. Bridge City [/quote]Hm? Obviously someone at TexPrep sees the building blocks for Hamshire Fannett basketball in it's infancy.

PLus, football season is actually over after one more game. Hoop ball fellas.

[quote name="Jackie Moon." post="690625" timestamp="1256926466"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=57901.msg630822#msg630822 date=1251325221] Why isn't Hamshire-Fannett in it?  ??? ??? [/quote]I believe this year there going to be in OF, Evadale, and EC tournaments [/quote]Hmmm? I guess ya gotta build somewhere ??? ???

Lets see, hamshire's basketball tryouts begin Nov. 9th and I think weight lifting begins the same week....sheez!

[quote name="bullets13" post="693306" timestamp="1257056353"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61413.msg687679#msg687679 date=1256663093] Is it just [b]a long dry spell[/b] for HF's basketball? What is it going to take to turn things around in the program? Is it just that the talent is lacking or do the coaches have the dedication to turn their program around? Or a combination or both? I don't know the coaches so I can't comment on them. The one thing that I do notice is that the middle school programs fair well in sports. But I also understand you can't base future performance from middle school heroics. Kids develop at different stages. Some grow in height faster than others and stop growing. Some become slower in foot speed as others speed on. You can't keep the same workout routine you had in the 8th grade and expect to be successful in high school. Which may be why in high school the HF program seems to hit a down-slide. So, what is it going to take? I'm ready to dog-out HJ and EC before 2013 ;D [/quote]True, you can't stay down forever just like you can't stay on top forever. i think the first sentence of your first post answered the question to your title of this thread. [/quote]

[quote name=" :DBucof2010" post="691872" timestamp="1256962003"] [quote author=Ron Burgundy link=topic=61413.msg691781#msg691781 date=1256960078] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61413.msg688742#msg688742 date=1256754930] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=61413.msg688640#msg688640 date=1256748580] Maybe they should get the volleyball coach to coach the boys basketball team :D :D :D [/quote] >:(  hmmm, lets see....2010 +2011+2012+2013 You won't be laughing in 2012. Thats when the core will all be in hs together.......... hey, on a serious note, how tall is that Bosha kid now? Looks like he has grown some. [/quote] I'm so tired of hearing about how some 3rd graders are going to be the best team since the '95 Chicago Bulls. Ever since I was a young tot all I heard about was how HF's c/o 2009 was going to be great in every sport and dominate everything. Do you remember that team? No you don't because they didn't do anything. They all ended up giving up because they are undedicated and this community no longer supports sports and have a coaching staff that is less dedicated than the players. So all I advise is that everyone shut up and just play! Prove it on the court [/quote] Lol aren't you one of the ones that quit? [/quote]OUCH  ;D