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[quote name="nitro_25" post="683491" timestamp="1256263102"] No as long as the team is doing Great in the present tense then i believe everyone will be ok. But to go into the future that's when i believe people start getting sarcastic. People want to know about the h-f  team of 2009-2010 not the one 3year away when 2013-2015 come and h-f is kill boys then you best believe ill be in the stands watching and supporting in Austin. [/quote]There are h.s. coaches even today who know the players in middle school and are plannning for the future. As far as 2013-2015 team, I have to talk about them. Surely I can't say the present team at HF is going to State ::)

[quote name="Ron Burgundy" post="682619" timestamp="1256172607"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61007.msg682530#msg682530 date=1256164429] [quote author=Ron Burgundy link=topic=61007.msg682428#msg682428 date=1256158650] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61007.msg682099#msg682099 date=1256134578] [quote author=Ron Burgundy link=topic=61007.msg682072#msg682072 date=1256132594] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61007.msg681631#msg681631 date=1256075761] [quote author=HORNSFAN86 link=topic=61007.msg681602#msg681602 date=1256072457] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61007.msg681471#msg681471 date=1256060214] I'm not totally convinced it's all (100%)the coach's fault at HF. It wasn't like football at HF was dominating any teams in the past few years. I know one thing though, it's hard to come out of losing skid. Players are unhappy, parents, and certainly the coaches. It's like a disease, treatable but sometimes hard to get rid of........... [/quote]Dove, I would agree with you somewhat. Since Jasper, Silsbee, WOS & Bridge City moved down to 3A several years ago the days of HF's dominating Football program soon vanished. On the other hand to take a beat down the way that HF has done so far this year should not go by without someone taking responsibility for it and that falls on the Head Coach. IMHO is time for a change and some fresh ideas. [/quote]Maybe the district and 3A has gotten tougher. HF does not compete athletically with teams like Jasper, Silsbee, WO-S and (Lord have Mercy) Orangefield :'( HF could probably compete better in 2-A football, maybe. [/quote] Ok, I have been patient with you Mr. PluckedDove, but now you are just saying idiotic things. Pure diarrhea is flowing out of your mouth like the rivers of ancient babylon. When has OF [i]ever[/i] beat HF in [i]any[/i] running event in a track meet? They never do. Do you know why? Because we actually have fast players at HF. We have athletic players at HF, but that's not the only aspect of football. There's a difference in being athletic and being a good football team. I agree that we can't compete athletically with Jasper, Silsbee, and WOS, but who can?? [/quote]Read what Fisherking says above. He makes sense and tells the truth. Obviously you are not understanding what it takes to be a winner on a team. Having a player to run fast does not dictate a good athlete. Example, he may be fast but may lack knowledge to breakaway. But anyway, I have an observation and mind you its only my perspective. Play the best players and stop making concessions for whose family tree a player belongs to or (oops I've said too much). Play your best athletes and use them. Now here is another problem. If you use your best athletes out there, I notice some parents get upset because their "little johnny" isn't in the mix. Competition is about winning. Thats why they keep score. Play your best players (athletes?). Maybe it means pulling from from JV. [/quote] I agree totally with what you just said. However, if they lack the knowledge to break away, isn't that where a coach would come in? [/quote]Nope! Comes with natural talent. key word: [color=red]Natural[/color] [/quote] ok. If this game were based on natural talent the guys like doug flutie and wes welker wouldn't have seen the nfl. [/quote]They were surrounded by good athletes. Plus, it's not like they didn't know how to play the game.

[quote name="nitro_25" post="682648" timestamp="1256174955"] Sabine Pass plays this team again this year but at home this time will we get a taste of the future champs? [/quote]Sorry, most are in middle school right now. Being groomed to wax dat azz ;)

God! How many more weeks before basketball begins? NBA training camp and following Stephon Curry on twitter is all I have right now. >:(

[quote name="Ron Burgundy" post="682428" timestamp="1256158650"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61007.msg682099#msg682099 date=1256134578] [quote author=Ron Burgundy link=topic=61007.msg682072#msg682072 date=1256132594] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61007.msg681631#msg681631 date=1256075761] [quote author=HORNSFAN86 link=topic=61007.msg681602#msg681602 date=1256072457] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=61007.msg681471#msg681471 date=1256060214] I'm not totally convinced it's all (100%)the coach's fault at HF. It wasn't like football at HF was dominating any teams in the past few years. I know one thing though, it's hard to come out of losing skid. Players are unhappy, parents, and certainly the coaches. It's like a disease, treatable but sometimes hard to get rid of........... [/quote]Dove, I would agree with you somewhat. Since Jasper, Silsbee, WOS & Bridge City moved down to 3A several years ago the days of HF's dominating Football program soon vanished. On the other hand to take a beat down the way that HF has done so far this year should not go by without someone taking responsibility for it and that falls on the Head Coach. IMHO is time for a change and some fresh ideas. [/quote]Maybe the district and 3A has gotten tougher. HF does not compete athletically with teams like Jasper, Silsbee, WO-S and (Lord have Mercy) Orangefield :'( HF could probably compete better in 2-A football, maybe. [/quote] Ok, I have been patient with you Mr. PluckedDove, but now you are just saying idiotic things. Pure diarrhea is flowing out of your mouth like the rivers of ancient babylon. When has OF [i]ever[/i] beat HF in [i]any[/i] running event in a track meet? They never do. Do you know why? Because we actually have fast players at HF. We have athletic players at HF, but that's not the only aspect of football. There's a difference in being athletic and being a good football team. I agree that we can't compete athletically with Jasper, Silsbee, and WOS, but who can?? [/quote]Read what Fisherking says above. He makes sense and tells the truth. Obviously you are not understanding what it takes to be a winner on a team. Having a player to run fast does not dictate a good athlete. Example, he may be fast but may lack knowledge to breakaway. But anyway, I have an observation and mind you its only my perspective. Play the best players and stop making concessions for whose family tree a player belongs to or (oops I've said too much). Play your best athletes and use them. Now here is another problem. If you use your best athletes out there, I notice some parents get upset because their "little johnny" isn't in the mix. Competition is about winning. Thats why they keep score. Play your best players (athletes?). Maybe it means pulling from from JV. [/quote] I agree totally with what you just said. However, if they lack the knowledge to break away, isn't that where a coach would come in? [/quote]Nope! Comes with natural talent. key word: [color=red]Natural[/color]

[quote name="SD2009" post="682422" timestamp="1256158153"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=60899.msg682414#msg682414 date=1256157417] [quote author=33 link=topic=60899.msg682202#msg682202 date=1256142511] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=60899.msg682112#msg682112 date=1256136115] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=60899.msg682086#msg682086 date=1256133830] Yeah, the other night there were about 6 or 7 kids on HF sideline it seemed. I've heard they have lost about 10 starters this year to injury or have quit the team. A 3A school cannot overcome losses like that, no matter who is coaching. [/quote]And let me add,  what message does it send out when you allow your kid to QUIT just because things aren't going good ??? ??? As mush as I dislike my kids playing football they know they can't quit the team. Ya gotta finish it out! ;) [/quote] the only thing a coach has control over is if they play. the student can decide not to play football any time he wants... it's not the coaches fault they are quitting, he cant directly control that... [/quote]In some circles that I am around, you don't allow your kid to quit because of a coach or for whatever reason. [/quote] 33 probably quit [/quote]hahaha I was thinking the same thing!  :D

And let me add, what message does it send out when you allow your kid to QUIT just because things aren't going good ??? ??? As mush as I dislike my kids playing football they know they can't quit the team. Ya gotta finish it out! the only thing a coach has control over is if they play. the student can decide not to play football any time he wants... it's not the coaches fault they are quitting, he cant directly control that... In some circles that I am around, you don't allow your kid to quit because of a coach or for whatever reason.

Doesnt matter. A team that is collectively that potent, can operate successfully without one player for a while One is transferring and the other has a broken wrist........and we haven't made it to high school yet. Can you imagine the other injuries from football?

If you put in your 3rd string and run the ball, AND you still score.............that is not running up a score.

And let me add, what message does it send out when you allow your kid to QUIT just because things aren't going good ??? ??? As mush as I dislike my kids playing football they know they can't quit the team. Ya gotta finish it out!

2014 player breaks wrist in football game...sheez!

Dove, I would agree with you somewhat. Since Jasper, Silsbee, WOS & Bridge City moved down to 3A several years ago the days of HF's dominating Football program soon vanished. On the other hand to take a beat down the way that HF has done so far this year should not go by without someone taking responsibility for it and that falls on the Head Coach. IMHO is time for a change and some fresh ideas. Maybe the district and 3A has gotten tougher. HF does not compete athletically with teams like Jasper, Silsbee, WO-S and (Lord have Mercy) Orangefield :'( HF could probably compete better in 2-A football, maybe. Ok, I have been patient with you Mr. PluckedDove, but now you are just saying idiotic things. Pure diarrhea is flowing out of your mouth like the rivers of ancient babylon. When has OF ever beat HF in any running event in a track meet? They never do. Do you know why? Because we actually have fast players at HF. We have athletic players at HF, but that's not the only aspect of football. There's a difference in being athletic and being a good football team. I agree that we can't compete athletically with Jasper, Silsbee, and WOS, but who can?? Read what Fisherking says above. He makes sense and tells the truth. Obviously you are not understanding what it takes to be a winner on a team. Having a player to run fast does not dictate a good athlete. Example, he may be fast but may lack knowledge to breakaway. But anyway, I have an observation and mind you its only my perspective. Play the best players and stop making concessions for whose family tree a player belongs to or (oops I've said too much). Play your best athletes and use them. Now here is another problem. If you use your best athletes out there, I notice some parents get upset because their "little johnny" isn't in the mix. Competition is about winning. Thats why they keep score. Play your best players (athletes?). Maybe it means pulling from from JV.

Dove, I would agree with you somewhat. Since Jasper, Silsbee, WOS & Bridge City moved down to 3A several years ago the days of HF's dominating Football program soon vanished. On the other hand to take a beat down the way that HF has done so far this year should not go by without someone taking responsibility for it and that falls on the Head Coach. IMHO is time for a change and some fresh ideas. Maybe the district and 3A has gotten tougher. HF does not compete athletically with teams like Jasper, Silsbee, WO-S and (Lord have Mercy) Orangefield :'( HF could probably compete better in 2-A football, maybe.

At least it's not Evadale

I'm not totally convinced it's all (100%)the coach's fault at HF. It wasn't like football at HF was dominating any teams in the past few years. I know one thing though, it's hard to come out of losing skid. Players are unhappy, parents, and certainly the coaches. It's like a disease, treatable but sometimes hard to get rid of...........

Where is Hamshire Fannett's schedule?

We're finally in agreement motivationally.

I don't think these scores should be posted I agree I was at the game and for WOS, it was like " shooting fish in a barrel ". I will say this though, that the Officiating for the game was the worst these eyes have ever seen. IMHO, the Refs for these games need to be reported and sent back for training before someone gets seriously hurt. It would have in no way shape or form changed the outcome of the games but it sure would have gone a long way in making the games safer. By bad Officiating I mean it was blatant fouls on both teams that when by unpunished. Even some of the WOS faithful were remarking on how pitiful these official were. These guys clearly were there just for the money and wanted the games to be over ASAP so they could earn their paycheck and go to the house. I realize these are just JR High kids but they do deserve some respect and need to be taught whats not allowed in the game, how else will they get better. Hats Off to WOS, they as usual will have something to look forward to in the coming years. I usually don't get on refs but I have to agree. The guys seemed as if they wanted the game over and go home.

I don't think these scores should be posted

I wouldn't be surprised to see WOS do that....they like to run up the score.....They will then have a district title in mind after they beat the last place team.....IMO I wouldn't run up the score just "win" and get your young players some experience..... Make sure to clarify the difference between running up the score and one team not being able to stop the other. If the score shows at the end 60-6 or something like this, people don't need to run here and bash something they know no details of. As I've always said, I'm from HF so, and I know that WOS will most likely win this game and I expect them to. I just don't want to hear people run over hear start crying because "they ran up the score". If you shoot yourself in the foot and the other team capitalizes on your mistake, that's not running up the score, that's just good football. If a team is running iso and traps after getting up a certain amount of points and is still scoring on those base plays, that is not running up the score, that is saying they want the defense to stop them. Running up the score would be being up 50-0 and going five wide with all your starters in and throwing hail mary's and running reverses. If WOS gets up in a lopsided way, I don't look for the starters to stay in, and I look for all their guys to get playing time. If this is the case and HF just can't stop them, it's not running it up, it's football and it happens. So to HF, just go out there and play as hard as you can, and you never know what could happen on any given friday night. Good luck. Excellent post. No excuses and straight to the problem..err point.

How will Silsbee be at handling the press since their guards will be inexperienced? I don't believe in that theory and this is from personal experiences. I played varsity as a freshman pg in Houston and even though I was playing against more mature players, I got pumped up when teams tried to press. Players need to realize or coached that it is a challenge and privilege to *break down* the older guys. Its 95% mental and 5% skill set. Wonderful (and probably accurate) theory. However, the 95/5 theory probably is not fully realized and appreciated by a high school kid but rather a few years later. What da h$#@ll? Me and Stevie agreeing on something. Actually let me explain the 95% remark. It consists of not so much a conscious awareness, but more so being so scared at a young age that you let your athletic ability take over. Actually as a senior you then begin to realize your comfortable with what your doing. By college you realize "you didn't know jack."

Everybody repeat: Miracles do happen!

OF too? Rumblings like next year they gonna win district?

How will Silsbee be at handling the press since their guards will be inexperienced? I don't believe in that theory and this is from personal experiences. I played varsity as a freshman pg in Houston and even though I was playing against more mature players, I got pumped up when teams tried to press. Players need to realize or coached that it is a challenge and privilege to *break down* the older guys. Its 95% mental and 5% skill set.

Incredible, he can write peed but I can't write *censored*-Cheney.