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[quote name="fido" post="1391307" timestamp="1365088621"] The Flanigan fellow will be just fine. Fought first year head aches as do all first year coaches. Buy in from Srs. plus inherited staff is always an issue. If you look at his record, always produced winning seasons after year one. My God, he even had Orange Field at 8 win seasons. That might be tombstone material one day. Give the Coach a chance and you will be satisfied with the results. I believe he is pretty good at teaching athletes how to become successful young men also. That still matters even in today's sports crazed society. ;) [/quote]flannigan is a good coach and an even better leader of young men. his church and other members of the community started a petition trying to keep him. he led crosby to the playoffs the last 7 years he was at the school and had a 4-4 playoff record the last half of his tenure. his record indicated he was the second best coach in 19-4a for the better part of a decade, just give the kids time to get used to the system.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1391202" timestamp="1365026738"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109592.msg1391198#msg1391198 date=1365026044] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=109592.msg1391158#msg1391158 date=1365021346] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=109592.msg1391156#msg1391156 date=1365020964] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=109592.msg1391154#msg1391154 date=1365020593] I think bg is just hoping sc goes 5a so pm can put a whoopin on them. [/quote] Speaking of whoopin's ya'll get ready for another one. [/quote]just hope sc stays in our district after this year. Not much talent at sc after 2013. [/quote]I don't think SC will realign to 5a next time. I hear they're supposed to be increasing the numbers by a 100 or so when they make 6a. Doesn't matter if Dayton freshmen can beat SC's right now. When they're seniors they'll still have 600+ more kids to choose from to make up for it. Not saying they won't win but I wouldn't look at the freshman class as a barometer. [/quote]well they beat crosby freshman by around 50 to. Would you use that as a barometer considering the size of dayton and crosby. [/quote]I see what you're trying to say but Crosby doesn't have 2100 kids like Summer Creek. It does mean more against a smaller school like us though. The good freshman qb broke his leg last year and didn't play most of the season either. He should be Aston's backup on varsity next year. 

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1391158" timestamp="1365021346"] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=109592.msg1391156#msg1391156 date=1365020964] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=109592.msg1391154#msg1391154 date=1365020593] I think bg is just hoping sc goes 5a so pm can put a whoopin on them. [/quote] Speaking of whoopin's ya'll get ready for another one. [/quote]just hope sc stays in our district after this year. Not much talent at sc after 2013. [/quote]I don't think SC will realign to 5a next time. I hear they're supposed to be increasing the numbers by a 100 or so when they make 6a. Doesn't matter if Dayton freshmen can beat SC's right now. When they're seniors they'll still have 600+ more kids to choose from to make up for it. Not saying they won't win but I wouldn't look at the freshman class as a barometer.

[quote name="TradinUp BH" post="1391028" timestamp="1364996539"] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390843#msg1390843 date=1364938537] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390700#msg1390700 date=1364907589] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390686#msg1390686 date=1364888045] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110696.msg1390683#msg1390683 date=1364879940] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390466#msg1390466 date=1364825523] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390433#msg1390433 date=1364789176] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390247#msg1390247 date=1364690706] You gotta throw sc and Crosby in there. Sc with there qb and two receivers back and that transfer running back. And Crosby with the twins and that tight end coming back. If they find a defense they would be serious contenders in D2. [/quote] Why do you think D2 is so much easier?  To me it's all the same. [/quote] In my opinion there are a lot more tougher teams in D1 than in D2. At least it was that way last year. I'm not saying that all teams in D2 are push overs. I'm just saying D1 has a lot more powerhouse teams. IMO that is. [/quote]I agree, the reason D2 is easier is because of the enrollment. Georgetown won 3 or 4 games in 5a before realignment. The powerhouse teams like Dawson, Georgetown, Summer Creek, and 4a state champ Denton Guyer all have enrollments around 2000 or above. All things being equal an extra 5-600 kids makes a big difference. Division 2 teams are usually within a couple hundred kids of each other which makes for less disparity between the teams. [/quote] Then how do you explain some small schools consistently beating bigger schools or even schools from a lager classification?  BTW, I wouldn't consider Georgetown and SC powerhouses yet.  Nothing against them, but SC has one playoff win and Georgetown had one good year.  Dawson is proven, but that's about it.  Even they lose to a few smaller schools. [/quote] Which smaller schools are you talking about?? [/quote] Brenham, LaMarque, Navasota, Stephenville & Dayton.  Those schools have under 1,500 students and have consistently beat schools with a 2000+ enrollment. [/quote] Busting your bubble on this one ;D Brenham- enrollment 1424 2008-current playoff games [u]Wins[/u] Manor (twice)- 1658 Crosby- 1440 El Campo- 975 (currently 3a) Kerrville Tivy- 1381 Dayton- 1443 PNG- 1431 KP- 1665 [u]Losses[/u] Dayton Aledo- 1544 KP Ozen- 1264 Elgin- 1199 Where did ya'll beat a school with over 2000 students in the playoffs, which I think is what people are talking about, not non district games? ;D  Also, please name the schools that the schools you listed have beat with 2000+ students. I would venture to say no more then a couple for Brenham, LM, Navasota maybe none, Dayton maybe a few, and Stephenville maybe one or two. That's all years, non district, district, and playoffs. [/quote]Good research, I wish more did the same.

[quote name="ram0524" post="1390855" timestamp="1364941518"] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390843#msg1390843 date=1364938537] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390700#msg1390700 date=1364907589] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390686#msg1390686 date=1364888045] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110696.msg1390683#msg1390683 date=1364879940] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390466#msg1390466 date=1364825523] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390433#msg1390433 date=1364789176] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390247#msg1390247 date=1364690706] You gotta throw sc and Crosby in there. Sc with there qb and two receivers back and that transfer running back. And Crosby with the twins and that tight end coming back. If they find a defense they would be serious contenders in D2. [/quote] Why do you think D2 is so much easier?  To me it's all the same. [/quote] In my opinion there are a lot more tougher teams in D1 than in D2. At least it was that way last year. I'm not saying that all teams in D2 are push overs. I'm just saying D1 has a lot more powerhouse teams. IMO that is. [/quote]I agree, the reason D2 is easier is because of the enrollment. Georgetown won 3 or 4 games in 5a before realignment. The powerhouse teams like Dawson, Georgetown, Summer Creek, and 4a state champ Denton Guyer all have enrollments around 2000 or above. All things being equal an extra 5-600 kids makes a big difference. Division 2 teams are usually within a couple hundred kids of each other which makes for less disparity between the teams. [/quote] Then how do you explain some small schools consistently beating bigger schools or even schools from a lager classification?  BTW, I wouldn't consider Georgetown and SC powerhouses yet.  Nothing against them, but SC has one playoff win and Georgetown had one good year.  Dawson is proven, but that's about it.  Even they lose to a few smaller schools. [/quote] Which smaller schools are you talking about?? [/quote] Brenham, LaMarque, Navasota, Stephenville & Dayton.  Those schools have under 1,500 students and have consistently beat schools with a 2000+ enrollment. [/quote] Forgot about Ned [/quote]I guess i have a different definition of consistently then. Ned is the perfect example. I read an article earlier this year by some guy who had Ned winning the region and Cedar Park winning the state championship saying Cedar Park was the best 4a team in the state. At the time Ned was like 3-1 and Cedar Park was 2-2 so naturally i thought this guy was off his rocker and wasn't going to read that trash anymore. Ned played for a regional crown in d1 and Cedar Park won the state 4a crown in d2. he also said, ''with teams like Guyer, Georgetown'' and some San Antonio school ''dropping down they should already have a playoff spot reserved''. Georgetown has been in the 5a cellar the last couple of years, they won 15 games in 4a last year. I'm not at all being confrontational but what 4a playoff teams with 2000 kids has ned consistently beat? There's a single win over Dawson but 2 losses to 2k enrollment schools, before that it was consecutive first round losses to Crosby. Not even the great La Marque could consistently beat 2k enrollment Dawson and Manvel in the district and especially playoff time. What team like that has Dayton beat. Of course a good 4a team can beat the 5a teams like Atascosita, Chavez, Reagan, and South Houston but there's a difference between those high enrollment schools and a 4a district champ with 2000 kids. aying that I do believe any team can be beat a given night.

As far as state champions I would say Newton. One or two good players go a long way in 2a and Newton probably has the best one in the region. As far as my team, I though we were good enough to win the region in D2 last year and we'll be better this year. Had it not been for us squandering a double digit lead to Manor in the second half I feel we would have had their spot against eventual state champ Cedar Park in the semi-finals. Crosby gave up 33 ppg to the 6 playoff teams they played last year. If we can shave a few points off that with the offense a year more mature I think we should be a serious contender for the regional crown again, beyond that it's just a crap shoot.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1390466" timestamp="1364825523"] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390433#msg1390433 date=1364789176] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390247#msg1390247 date=1364690706] You gotta throw sc and Crosby in there. Sc with there qb and two receivers back and that transfer running back. And Crosby with the twins and that tight end coming back. If they find a defense they would be serious contenders in D2. [/quote] Why do you think D2 is so much easier?  To me it's all the same. [/quote] In my opinion there are a lot more tougher teams in D1 than in D2. At least it was that way last year. I'm not saying that all teams in D2 are push overs. I'm just saying D1 has a lot more powerhouse teams. IMO that is. [/quote]I agree, the reason D2 is easier is because of the enrollment. Georgetown won 3 or 4 games in 5a before realignment. The powerhouse teams like Dawson, Georgetown, Summer Creek, and 4a state champ Denton Guyer all have enrollments around 2000 or above. All things being equal an extra 5-600 kids makes a big difference. Division 2 teams are usually within a couple hundred kids of each other which makes for less disparity between the teams.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1390255" timestamp="1364692608"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390237#msg1390237 date=1364685288] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390227#msg1390227 date=1364680835] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390189#msg1390189 date=1364664129] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390118#msg1390118 date=1364598826] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390088#msg1390088 date=1364586958] i'm not saying he's good just because of the system he's in but i am saying a spread is what he needs to play in in college. sharp would have good high school numbers anywhere because of his athleticism and accuracy. most non-sec teams rum some type of spread anyway though. having to take a drop from under center, read and sometime reset could expose his deficiencies. you also have to throw over the offensive line more from in a pro system which isn't good for his current trajectory. i'm just saying there's a timmy chang, zac robinson type feel about sharp where he needs to be in a situation that benefits his skill set or he could find hisself down the the depth chart behind a kid more accustomed to what they're running. [/quote] He can find himself down the dept chart at any school, he just have to keep working hard. I've seen some of the best QBs ride the bench, remember only one QB on field....Cougar14, you do know majority of the time the ball is thrown between the Lineman not over them? So what college you think would best fit Sharp, in your opinion? I read where Boise St is recruiting him, what do you think of them? And is it true Raelon is leaning toward Utes? [/quote]First off, when I say over the linemen I mean anywhere between the tackles or tight end and tackle. In other words anywhere a ball can be batted at the line of scrimmage. Second, if  you're the best qb on the team you don't ride the bench and if you do that means you aren't the best qb on the team. Maybe you've seen kids with good high school numbers ride the bench but they weren't the best qb on the team. I didn't see him on Boise St.'s boards but he's got an invite to UCLA's camp and I see he's in consideration for offers from Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU. I think Boise St. would be perfect for his skill set though because he's a lot like Kellen Moore with better wheels, he's even a southpaw like Moore. So far as the schools that offered though I think UH is the best fit with the style offense they run. I think the dream scenario for Sharp would be Texas Tech (who has a soft verbal from DJ Gillen) or Louisana Tech. [/quote] Yea I know what you mean, but they have Qbs whose ball are batted down anyway, regardless of the formation. And yes they have really good Qbs on the bench in college. Not because they only did well in HS, but they were good in college, but had their spot take end due to an injury and wasn't able to get it back. That just like Alex Smith in the NFL, he got hurt but because Kap did so well when he got a shot, it's his job. That is what I'm talking about. You have some of the best QBs on the bench because only 1 is on the field. And you never answered about Raelon. Where is he leaning, along with the twins? [/quote]Austin was saying he is getting ready to make decision and they are intent on going to the same school so I would think Rice for the twins even though they hold dual offers from Yale. It's a perfect offense for Austin, I think he can what McGuffie was supposed to. Only issue is I think as more kids commit over the Spring and Summer Austin could pick up 4 or 5 more ULL or WAC conference type offers and if he can measure at the 5'7" or higher mark some point during the offseason he's going to get serious consideration from the Big 12. As far as I know Singleton is still taking offers but this was a kid we were talking about couldn't catch at the beginning of the year. He already has offers from Colorado St., Utah, San Diego St., and UH but I think once he hits the camp circuit this offseason and shows his improved catching prowess he's going to get some Big 12 offers so I don't expect him to commit anytime soon. [/quote] I'm sure the twins will choose Yale huh. Rice is just too close to home. Sometimes you can't wait to choose a college during your senior year, especially as a QB...if Aston gonna play Qb in college, which I heard that is what he's looking to do, he will have to commit soon. They just don't wait around anymore, those offers leave fast for QBs...can Raelon catch now? I know colleges like tall wrs and he's 6'5..... [/quote]I don't really think they would choose Yale because the Ivy League is actually FCS (D1-AA) and I think they only play ten games a year with no bowls. I don't know if they're that intent on being away from home. Believe it or not I think they could both play as true freshman. Rice runs a spread-option attack just like Crosby does now except they work from the pistol sometime and Rice is recruiting Aston as a qb even though he's probably a better position player than his brother. You're getting a great education at both schools which I know they value but you get a lot more football value at Rice who's coming off their best season in a while. The Ivy League doesn't offer any scholarships for academic or athletic abilities. Financial aide is based strictly on family need at Yale. There is some gray area in Ivy League recruiting though because it says a student can receive a "private scholarship" which is not from the school. I would assume the athletic programs are supported strictly by private donors like alumni. I know someone's son who played football at Yale so I'll ask him and get back.   

[quote name="shooter" post="1390468" timestamp="1364825702"] 247sports.com Jasper’s Terrell Cuney By Randy Riggs American-Statesman Staff Terrell Cuney decided Saturday there was no time like the present to become the Texas Longhorns’ newest member of their 2014 football recruiting class. In doing so, the Jasper product gives the Longhorns the nation’s top-ranked center in 2014 according to 247Sports. Later Saturday, an even younger prospect also decided the time was now to cast his lot with Texas. Jalen Campbell, a cornerback from Corpus Christi Flour Bluff, pledged to become the Longhorns’ third commitment for 2015. Cuney had held an offer from Texas since its second junior day on Feb. 23. In town Saturday to watch the Orange-White scrimmage as well as the final day of the Texas Relays, he decided to make official what he knew was inevitable. “I just said, ‘It’s time.’ It was really that simple,” said the 6-foot, 3-inch, 258-pound Cuney. “I grew up like Texas. I’ve always liked them. I just felt like it was time for me to go ahead and (commit). “I feel relieved,” added Cuney, who said he visited no other programs after Texas’ junior day. “I pretty much knew what I was going to do. Now I can just move on and know where I’m going to go to college. Now I can’t wait to get here.” Cuney becomes the ninth prospect to give Texas a non-binding verbal pledge for 2014. He’s the second offensive lineman in the class, joining guard Demetrius Knox of All Saints Episcopal School in Fort Worth. Cuney, ranked 29th on the 2014 American-Statesman Fabulous 55 as compiled by Hookem.com, the paper’s Internet partner, said he gave his pledge in coach Mack Brown’s office to Brown and several assistant coaches including offensive line coach Stacy Searels. “They were excited,” Cuney said. “I think they kind of knew what I was going to do, but now it’s official.” Now that he’s committed, Cuney said he knows what his priorities are. “I just want to get bigger, stronger and faster so I can come in and play,” he said. Campbell, listed at 5-9½ and 166 pounds, joins offensive guard Aaron Garza of Sherman and defensive tackle Bryce English of DeSoto as Texas pledges for 2015. [/quote]good pick up for Texas. Texas also picked up the best center in the country last year in Darius James. If James gains 10-15 lbs he could end up well over 330 and probably have to move to guard due to some loss of quickness. if that happens Cuney could play right after Espinoza, otherwise it's going to be a while. Texas is extremely talented on the interior line for a few more years. I've watched the film on James and Cuney and it's clear James is bigger and more powerful but Cuney has a little better leverage and range of motion. i think James could end up being as highly regarded as David Decastro though.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1390227" timestamp="1364680835"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390189#msg1390189 date=1364664129] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390118#msg1390118 date=1364598826] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390088#msg1390088 date=1364586958] i'm not saying he's good just because of the system he's in but i am saying a spread is what he needs to play in in college. sharp would have good high school numbers anywhere because of his athleticism and accuracy. most non-sec teams rum some type of spread anyway though. having to take a drop from under center, read and sometime reset could expose his deficiencies. you also have to throw over the offensive line more from in a pro system which isn't good for his current trajectory. i'm just saying there's a timmy chang, zac robinson type feel about sharp where he needs to be in a situation that benefits his skill set or he could find hisself down the the depth chart behind a kid more accustomed to what they're running. [/quote] He can find himself down the dept chart at any school, he just have to keep working hard. I've seen some of the best QBs ride the bench, remember only one QB on field....Cougar14, you do know majority of the time the ball is thrown between the Lineman not over them? So what college you think would best fit Sharp, in your opinion? I read where Boise St is recruiting him, what do you think of them? And is it true Raelon is leaning toward Utes? [/quote]First off, when I say over the linemen I mean anywhere between the tackles or tight end and tackle. In other words anywhere a ball can be batted at the line of scrimmage. Second, if  you're the best qb on the team you don't ride the bench and if you do that means you aren't the best qb on the team. Maybe you've seen kids with good high school numbers ride the bench but they weren't the best qb on the team. I didn't see him on Boise St.'s boards but he's got an invite to UCLA's camp and I see he's in consideration for offers from Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU. I think Boise St. would be perfect for his skill set though because he's a lot like Kellen Moore with better wheels, he's even a southpaw like Moore. So far as the schools that offered though I think UH is the best fit with the style offense they run. I think the dream scenario for Sharp would be Texas Tech (who has a soft verbal from DJ Gillen) or Louisana Tech. [/quote] Yea I know what you mean, but they have Qbs whose ball are batted down anyway, regardless of the formation. And yes they have really good Qbs on the bench in college. Not because they only did well in HS, but they were good in college, but had their spot take end due to an injury and wasn't able to get it back. That just like Alex Smith in the NFL, he got hurt but because Kap did so well when he got a shot, it's his job. That is what I'm talking about. You have some of the best QBs on the bench because only 1 is on the field. And you never answered about Raelon. Where is he leaning, along with the twins? [/quote]Austin was saying he is getting ready to make decision and they are intent on going to the same school so I would think Rice for the twins even though they hold dual offers from Yale. It's a perfect offense for Austin, I think he can what McGuffie was supposed to. Only issue is I think as more kids commit over the Spring and Summer Austin could pick up 4 or 5 more ULL or WAC conference type offers and if he can measure at the 5'7" or higher mark some point during the offseason he's going to get serious consideration from the Big 12. As far as I know Singleton is still taking offers but this was a kid we were talking about couldn't catch at the beginning of the year. He already has offers from Colorado St., Utah, San Diego St., and UH but I think once he hits the camp circuit this offseason and shows his improved catching prowess he's going to get some Big 12 offers so I don't expect him to commit anytime soon.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1390118" timestamp="1364598826"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390088#msg1390088 date=1364586958] i'm not saying he's good just because of the system he's in but i am saying a spread is what he needs to play in in college. sharp would have good high school numbers anywhere because of his athleticism and accuracy. most non-sec teams rum some type of spread anyway though. having to take a drop from under center, read and sometime reset could expose his deficiencies. you also have to throw over the offensive line more from in a pro system which isn't good for his current trajectory. i'm just saying there's a timmy chang, zac robinson type feel about sharp where he needs to be in a situation that benefits his skill set or he could find hisself down the the depth chart behind a kid more accustomed to what they're running. [/quote] He can find himself down the dept chart at any school, he just have to keep working hard. I've seen some of the best QBs ride the bench, remember only one QB on field....Cougar14, you do know majority of the time the ball is thrown between the Lineman not over them? So what college you think would best fit Sharp, in your opinion? I read where Boise St is recruiting him, what do you think of them? And is it true Raelon is leaning toward Utes? [/quote]First off, when I say over the linemen I mean anywhere between the tackles or tight end and tackle. In other words anywhere a ball can be batted at the line of scrimmage. Second, if  you're the best qb on the team you don't ride the bench and if you do that means you aren't the best qb on the team. Maybe you've seen kids with good high school numbers ride the bench but they weren't the best qb on the team. I didn't see him on Boise St.'s boards but he's got an invite to UCLA's camp and I see he's in consideration for offers from Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU. I think Boise St. would be perfect for his skill set though because he's a lot like Kellen Moore with better wheels, he's even a southpaw like Moore. So far as the schools that offered though I think UH is the best fit with the style offense they run. I think the dream scenario for Sharp would be Texas Tech (who has a soft verbal from DJ Gillen) or Louisana Tech.

i'm not saying he's good just because of the system he's in but i am saying a spread is what he needs to play in in college. sharp would have good high school numbers anywhere because of his athleticism and accuracy. most non-sec teams rum some type of spread anyway though. having to take a drop from under center, read and sometime reset could expose his deficiencies. you also have to throw over the offensive line more from in a pro system which isn't good for his current trajectory. i'm just saying there's a timmy chang, zac robinson type feel about sharp where he needs to be in a situation that benefits his skill set or he could find his self down the the depth chart behind a kid more accustomed to what they're running.

[quote name="BellBiz30" post="1389599" timestamp="1364480971"] [quote author=OctFeb link=topic=109592.msg1389588#msg1389588 date=1364479838] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=109592.msg1389581#msg1389581 date=1364477222] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=109592.msg1389551#msg1389551 date=1364442638] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=109592.msg1389535#msg1389535 date=1364436393] SC will score points with or without the pickup from CK. I think SC will have a hard time making a deep playoff run unless they can shore up their defense. In their 2 playoff games they gave up over 900 yds of offense including over 450 to vidor. [b]I look for SC and crosby too compete for the district title but neither one has a good enough defense to go really deep in the playoffs[/b]. [/quote] I got it out of Dayton and SC. actually i see the playoffs looking like this: 1. SC, 2. Dayton, 3. The Barbies, 4. Kingwood Park [/quote]I was thinkng the same thing but maybe [b]Crosby battling it out with KP for fourth![/b] [/quote] uh oh... wait for it... cougar14 AKA coug8bronco gonna weigh in on that comment.. with some stats I bet. Because we all know that stats will win the game every time.  :P [/quote] ;D ;D ;D [/quote]Had it not been for a second half collapse to Manor in which we were up 11 at the break I think the team from last year would have won the region just like they did. They say defense wins championships but if you read the article on DC's where the guy did research on some of the state semi-final teams and actually showed more often than not it's offense that wins you championships. Crosby is bringing back 14 players including 8 starters on an offense that averaged 377.8 yards and 23 points on the 6 playoff teams they faced and 40.8 points and 448 yards on the non-playoff teams they played. While Crosby gave up a respectable 372.5 ypg to their playoff opponents they relinquished 33 points to go with it, 186.5 and 8.5 to non-playoff opponents. Most people would say it's defense and on the surface it is but I would accredit it more to the 26 underclassmen Crosby had on the varsity last year plus it being the kid's first year with a new system and coaching staff. With Dayton still being young while losing Chambers and McBride, BH's best player in Denny probably not going to play football(weren't going to win anyway), if we can catch SC before they can fully incorporate Jeffery and Sharp can adjust to the loss of his two favorite targets Holden and Johnson I think barring a Baytown Lee-type loss like the one that cost us a district championship two years ago we could take the 19-4a crown. I think it goes 1. SC/Crosby 2. Crosby/SC 3. Dayton/KP 4. KP/Dayton

Crosby wr Raelon Singleton just picked up another offer from Colorado State. He already has offers from Utah and San Diego State. There's going to be a good bit of talent on display in 19-4a this fall and now that AJ Jeffery has transferred to Summer Creek he should get some serious looks from FBS schools as an athlete.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1389497" timestamp="1364419080"] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=109592.msg1389437#msg1389437 date=1364409411] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=109592.msg1389429#msg1389429 date=1364407852] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=109592.msg1389423#msg1389423 date=1364407222] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=109592.msg1389418#msg1389418 date=1364406594] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109592.msg1389396#msg1389396 date=1364403436] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=109592.msg1389359#msg1389359 date=1364400008] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=109592.msg1389357#msg1389357 date=1364399878] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=109592.msg1389343#msg1389343 date=1364398989] Like I said before he should fit right in with the football players at sc. Right buddy and octfeb?  8) [/quote] He's doing well, thanks for asking 8) [/quote] I bet he is. With all that skill and all.  ;) [/quote] Skills  that Vidor need  ;) [/quote] Not really... We have enough here.  8) [/quote] Not much is required for a playoff spot in 20-4A [/quote] Like y'all got room to talk. Y'all went undefeated and made it two rounds deep. That was y'all's best team. Remember how our best team did?  8) [/quote] dude, don't compare us to SC's skill set and playoff records. it's arguing for the sake of arguing. you harp on their round 2 exit compliments of G-Town(who went to state btw), but seem to forget that SC sent us home in round 1. as much as love our team, lets be real, we didn't match up with SC and we won't this year either. as for the topic, i saw alot of kids go from one school to another in the late 80's and earlier 90's for nothing more than athletic purposes. but it was the parents trying to give their kid a better shot at being recognized. some schools just don't get noticed(even when they have next level players). [/quote] Lmao okay dustoff. [/quote]I don't think he was being funny. There's someone with perspective in every fan base and I think I just found the one at Vidor. The Pirates win with scheme and heart, SC beats people because they have better players and just picked up another in feature back AJ Jeffery who DCTF had rated as one of the top sophomores in the state two years ago.  *Just a side question to Dustoff: Do you think Vidor can make the 20-4a playoffs without MQ or the fullback from last year?

[quote name="aschom78" post="1389003" timestamp="1364328559"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1388730#msg1388730 date=1364245078] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1388661#msg1388661 date=1364231213] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1388592#msg1388592 date=1364221386] Can someone from Summer Creek confirm or deny that Aaron Sharp just picked up an offer from University of Houston? If so that's his [b]best offer[/b] to date but I only got one source saying that's the case. Very hard to get a big time FBS offer at quarterback in the state this year. Unlike last class this one is loaded, could be another like Stafford, Snead, Dalton, Ponder, and McElroy. That's 4 qbs that started an nfl game last year from one high school class in Texas. [/quote] COugar14, why are you saying that's his best offer? Are you a Crosby COUGAR or Houston COUGAR  :D [/quote]because utah and colorado are cellar dwellers in the pac 12. at houston he would actually be able to compete for conference championships and play in a good bowl game. utah is going to be lucky to play in a bowl game in the next few years. sharp does remind me of the old utah qb brian johnson from crosby who transfered and played a year at lee before going to utah and being the sugar bowl mvp after he sliced up alabama. sharp should a few more good offers before the season starts but the upper level programs in the state can pick and choose this year 'cause of the qb depth in this class. plus i think with sharp recruiters are saying he has to play in a finesse spread-style offense like he does at sc due to the fact he has [b]average arm strength at best[/b]. i also think he's scaring some people with that awkward throwing motion, if you type in ''aaron sharp 247'' they have some pictures of him throwing and you can see what i'm saying. he should be releasing the ball way higher than he does, looks like it hurts his elbow. hard to argue with his production on the field though so he'll still end up with probably 7-10 offers. one other great thing about sharp is he doesn't turn the ball over either. [/quote] I'm not sure what is average at the college level, but I once saw Sharp chuck the ball from the 35 yard line at one end of the field into the endzone on the other side of the field in practice. And that was when he was a freshman. [/quote]That would have been pretty cool to see a little freshman throw the varsity ball over 65 yards, most varsity qbs can't do that when their freshman in college. Arm strength is a five step drop throwing a 15 yards out from the opposite hash mark with a corner breaking on it. Sharp is a UH, Texas Tech, Baylor, West Virginia type spread qb who's going to beat you at the line of scrimmage with his head, timing and experience. He doesn't spin it like Stafford, Luck, Dalton, Ponder, Foles or Mallet. He's more Case Keenum, Nick Florence, or Kliff Kingsburry than RG3 and Geno Smith. Maybe he's Colt McCoy or Matt Lienhart though, two successful big time college qbs that had average at best arms. Sharp is strictly a spread guy who I think could put up ridiculous numbers at a place like UH or La Tech. Just hard to get an offer to one of the Texas Big 12 schools or SEC with the qb talent in the state but I see he is in consideration for a Tech and Baylor offer. He's still got to be on some other C-USA, WAC, Sun Belt team type radars too.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1388661" timestamp="1364231213"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1388592#msg1388592 date=1364221386] Can someone from Summer Creek confirm or deny that Aaron Sharp just picked up an offer from University of Houston? If so that's his [b]best offer[/b] to date but I only got one source saying that's the case. Very hard to get a big time FBS offer at quarterback in the state this year. Unlike last class this one is loaded, could be another like Stafford, Snead, Dalton, Ponder, and McElroy. That's 4 qbs that started an nfl game last year from one high school class in Texas. [/quote] COugar14, why are you saying that's his best offer? Are you a Crosby COUGAR or Houston COUGAR  :D [/quote]because utah and colorado are cellar dwellers in the pac 12. at houston he would actually be able to compete for conference championships and play in a good bowl game. utah is going to be lucky to play in a bowl game in the next few years. sharp does remind me of the old utah qb brian johnson from crosby who transfered and played a year at lee before going to utah and being the sugar bowl mvp after he sliced up alabama. sharp should a few more good offers before the season starts but the upper level programs in the state can pick and choose this year 'cause of the qb depth in this class. plus i think with sharp recruiters are saying he has to play in a finesse spread-style offense like he does at sc due to the fact he has average arm strength at best. i also think he's scaring some people with that awkward throwing motion, if you type in ''aaron sharp 247'' they have some pictures of him throwing and you can see what i'm saying. he should be releasing the ball way higher than he does, looks like it hurts his elbow. hard to argue with his production on the field though so he'll still end up with probably 7-10 offers. one other great thing about sharp is he doesn't turn the ball over either.

Can someone from Summer Creek confirm or deny that Aaron Sharp just picked up an offer from University of Houston? If so that's his best offer to date but I only got one source saying that's the case. Very hard to get a big time FBS offer at quarterback in the state this year. Unlike last class this one is loaded, could be another like Stafford, Snead, Dalton, Ponder, and McElroy. That's 4 qbs that started an nfl game last year from one high school class in Texas. 

Potential Sharp to Singleton hook up in Salt Lake City? Aaron Sharp just picked up an offer to Utah. Raelon Singleton already has an offer to play for the Utes. 19-4a rivals to Pac 12 teammates? *Congrats to Jordan Feuerbacher (TE) of KP, now has offers from Texas State, UTSA, Illinois, and Oregon State. *Walter twins now have dual offer to Rice University and Yale University (Ivy League does not offer athletic scholarships)

Good luck to you kids too Bronco by the way. What grades are they in?

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1387203" timestamp="1363807415"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387198#msg1387198 date=1363807042] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=110322.msg1387185#msg1387185 date=1363805469] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387172#msg1387172 date=1363804118] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=110322.msg1387155#msg1387155 date=1363802377] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387081#msg1387081 date=1363790511] [quote author=bronco1 link=topic=110322.msg1387041#msg1387041 date=1363784022] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387036#msg1387036 date=1363783569] [quote author=liltex link=topic=110322.msg1387034#msg1387034 date=1363782906] Not true,we alright was 9-0 till SC game.Yes we had some player/coach related issues alright late in the season.Played Ned fair considering the troubles.Broncos will compete again this year w/the youngest group I can remember.The 2012 jv & awesome 9th grade group will shore things up in 2013.Mark it down somewhere 2014 we going deep and you heard it right here ;) [/quote]I don't doubt that, I'm just saying Hancock won't dominate the district like Stewart did. There's no flexibility in the playcalling like there used to be. Stewart could adjust on the fly where Hancock uses what I call the novicane approach which is "give it time and it'll work". Crosby has three stud qbs coming through the pipeline too. [/quote] Stewart's run was impressive, but as far as Crosby is concerned nothing has changed. Like you said Hancock is 2-0 against the Cougars. If Crosby plans on beating Dayton in the near future their best chance will be this year, while they have Senior twins. We will be young but talented, with a much needed QB change. I understand that your angst for Dayton won't allow you to be objective, this probably wasn't worth saying. [/quote]I'm very objective. Unlike many I don't have any angst for Dayton. I admire the program and hope Crosby can have that type of sustained relevance. I have three sons and two nephews that will be coming through the program for the next 15 years. I'm just saying look at the talent levels both teams have had over the past decade and a half. Now look at the dispairity in the records. The talent is always close to equal but the determining factor has been coaching. Stewart is still the AD which is keeping it held together at the seams but the coaching advantage Dayton enjoyed is fading away. Dayton has young talent but Crosby has the same young talent, the difference is going to be qb play and the sheer size of the players at the skill positions. In three years the trenches are going to rival those of a good 5a team and all of our receivers will be in that 6'1"-6'3" range. They'll go 6'5" and 6'1" next year. Crosby is going to have a bunch of kids like Singleton and Merka who are going to be FBS prospects due to size alone. If SC stays 4a or the new 5a plus KP and Humble stay in the district, Dayton as well as Crosby and BH will be in a dogfight for the foreseeable future. No more playoff guarantees for the Broncos. [/quote]you say in 3 years crosby will be this unstoppable force. Didnt see it when our frshman teams played. I think dayton beat crosby by around 50. [/quote]I didn't say the kids that will be seniors in three years will be like that. I didn't say they would be unstoppable at all either. I said they are going to be kids that will be heavily recruited due to their size. I think the freshman qb broke his arm or leg early in the season and didn't play the rest of the year plus that was the 4th game with a completely new coaching staff and plays being ran with kids that had never heard that terminology. Just make sure you stop at Brookshire's and pick up some Boudreaux's Butt Paste before you make that ride down 90 next year 'cause Crosby's going to bust that %@$. [/quote]what was your prediction last year. I mean eventually if you keep predicting wins crosby is bound to win one. It worked for bh. [/quote]I though we would only lose one district game to SC. I didn't think Dayton was declining when we played them either though. This year I think they are and I'll still predict the one district loss to SC. I will have a son playing against Dayton at some level starting in August for the next 14 years and depending on what this last kid is it could be the next 18 years. I'll be predicting a lot of Crosby over Dayton wins in the future. [/quote]doesnt hurt to dream. Wish your kids the best. Mine will be playing to and it makes it that much more fun. [/quote]Only thing I dream about is the 300 Marlin by Grady White. Every male of age in my family that played football has gotten a football scholarship since 1976. My cousin just finished at Texas, have a senior cuz at Kansas and another just signed with Southeast Missouri St. I could be dreaming about him being a 5 star though but I expect nothing less. Mine will be easy to spot too, he'll be wearing the family #14.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1387185" timestamp="1363805469"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387172#msg1387172 date=1363804118] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=110322.msg1387155#msg1387155 date=1363802377] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387081#msg1387081 date=1363790511] [quote author=bronco1 link=topic=110322.msg1387041#msg1387041 date=1363784022] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387036#msg1387036 date=1363783569] [quote author=liltex link=topic=110322.msg1387034#msg1387034 date=1363782906] Not true,we alright was 9-0 till SC game.Yes we had some player/coach related issues alright late in the season.Played Ned fair considering the troubles.Broncos will compete again this year w/the youngest group I can remember.The 2012 jv & awesome 9th grade group will shore things up in 2013.Mark it down somewhere 2014 we going deep and you heard it right here ;) [/quote]I don't doubt that, I'm just saying Hancock won't dominate the district like Stewart did. There's no flexibility in the playcalling like there used to be. Stewart could adjust on the fly where Hancock uses what I call the novicane approach which is "give it time and it'll work". Crosby has three stud qbs coming through the pipeline too. [/quote] Stewart's run was impressive, but as far as Crosby is concerned nothing has changed. Like you said Hancock is 2-0 against the Cougars. If Crosby plans on beating Dayton in the near future their best chance will be this year, while they have Senior twins. We will be young but talented, with a much needed QB change. I understand that your angst for Dayton won't allow you to be objective, this probably wasn't worth saying. [/quote]I'm very objective. Unlike many I don't have any angst for Dayton. I admire the program and hope Crosby can have that type of sustained relevance. I have three sons and two nephews that will be coming through the program for the next 15 years. I'm just saying look at the talent levels both teams have had over the past decade and a half. Now look at the dispairity in the records. The talent is always close to equal but the determining factor has been coaching. Stewart is still the AD which is keeping it held together at the seams but the coaching advantage Dayton enjoyed is fading away. Dayton has young talent but Crosby has the same young talent, the difference is going to be qb play and the sheer size of the players at the skill positions. In three years the trenches are going to rival those of a good 5a team and all of our receivers will be in that 6'1"-6'3" range. They'll go 6'5" and 6'1" next year. Crosby is going to have a bunch of kids like Singleton and Merka who are going to be FBS prospects due to size alone. If SC stays 4a or the new 5a plus KP and Humble stay in the district, Dayton as well as Crosby and BH will be in a dogfight for the foreseeable future. No more playoff guarantees for the Broncos. [/quote]you say in 3 years crosby will be this unstoppable force. Didnt see it when our frshman teams played. I think dayton beat crosby by around 50. [/quote]I didn't say the kids that will be seniors in three years will be like that. I didn't say they would be unstoppable at all either. I said they are going to be kids that will be heavily recruited due to their size. I think the freshman qb broke his arm or leg early in the season and didn't play the rest of the year plus that was the 4th game with a completely new coaching staff and plays being ran with kids that had never heard that terminology. Just make sure you stop at Brookshire's and pick up some Boudreaux's Butt Paste before you make that ride down 90 next year 'cause Crosby's going to bust that %@$. [/quote]what was your prediction last year. I mean eventually if you keep predicting wins crosby is bound to win one. It worked for bh. [/quote]I though we would only lose one district game to SC. I didn't think Dayton was declining when we played them either though. This year I think they are and I'll still predict the one district loss to SC. I will have a son playing against Dayton at some level starting in August for the next 14 years and depending on what this last kid is it could be the next 18 years. I'll be predicting a lot of Crosby over Dayton wins in the future.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1387166" timestamp="1363803788"] I would rather not watch the kp vs crosby game on film. I could find more entertainment in a retirement home. Also quit making excuses for the kp game. You know what they say about excuses there like coug14 everybody has one. What grade were all those beast you were talking about in. [/quote]They're spread out. I know most of their names but they're too young for me to post about. The eighth grade qb is over 6' tall already and dunking a basketball with ease along with the next set of twins who are also already over 6' tall and can do the same. The strongest kid in the middle school plays dt and is 6'2" and about 275 already and could be on varsity by playoff time. There's a kid in GP that's super fast but the kid that played the other receiver in middle school is supposed to be the second fastest kid in the district and is supposed to play rb next year on the freshman team and should be Crosby's best player when he gets to varsity. The 7th grade qb is 6' tall and thick already, kid has decent wheels but can sling the varsity ball about 50 yards already. My son's team has 6 11 and 12 year olds who are 5'9 or taller and my son weighing a little over 140 lbs is the lightest. Those will be next year's 7th graders. There's more of those big kids also, they just haven't impressed me yet. I'm sure they all won't produce but Riordan has a lot to work with over the next years.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1387155" timestamp="1363802377"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387081#msg1387081 date=1363790511] [quote author=bronco1 link=topic=110322.msg1387041#msg1387041 date=1363784022] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387036#msg1387036 date=1363783569] [quote author=liltex link=topic=110322.msg1387034#msg1387034 date=1363782906] Not true,we alright was 9-0 till SC game.Yes we had some player/coach related issues alright late in the season.Played Ned fair considering the troubles.Broncos will compete again this year w/the youngest group I can remember.The 2012 jv & awesome 9th grade group will shore things up in 2013.Mark it down somewhere 2014 we going deep and you heard it right here ;) [/quote]I don't doubt that, I'm just saying Hancock won't dominate the district like Stewart did. There's no flexibility in the playcalling like there used to be. Stewart could adjust on the fly where Hancock uses what I call the novicane approach which is "give it time and it'll work". Crosby has three stud qbs coming through the pipeline too. [/quote] Stewart's run was impressive, but as far as Crosby is concerned nothing has changed. Like you said Hancock is 2-0 against the Cougars. If Crosby plans on beating Dayton in the near future their best chance will be this year, while they have Senior twins. We will be young but talented, with a much needed QB change. I understand that your angst for Dayton won't allow you to be objective, this probably wasn't worth saying. [/quote]I'm very objective. Unlike many I don't have any angst for Dayton. I admire the program and hope Crosby can have that type of sustained relevance. I have three sons and two nephews that will be coming through the program for the next 15 years. I'm just saying look at the talent levels both teams have had over the past decade and a half. Now look at the dispairity in the records. The talent is always close to equal but the determining factor has been coaching. Stewart is still the AD which is keeping it held together at the seams but the coaching advantage Dayton enjoyed is fading away. Dayton has young talent but Crosby has the same young talent, the difference is going to be qb play and the sheer size of the players at the skill positions. In three years the trenches are going to rival those of a good 5a team and all of our receivers will be in that 6'1"-6'3" range. They'll go 6'5" and 6'1" next year. Crosby is going to have a bunch of kids like Singleton and Merka who are going to be FBS prospects due to size alone. If SC stays 4a or the new 5a plus KP and Humble stay in the district, Dayton as well as Crosby and BH will be in a dogfight for the foreseeable future. No more playoff guarantees for the Broncos. [/quote]you say in 3 years crosby will be this unstoppable force. Didnt see it when our frshman teams played. I think dayton beat crosby by around 50. [/quote]I didn't say the kids that will be seniors in three years will be like that. I didn't say they would be unstoppable at all either. I said they are going to be kids that will be heavily recruited due to their size. I think the freshman qb broke his arm or leg early in the season and didn't play the rest of the year plus that was the 4th game with a completely new coaching staff and plays being ran with kids that had never heard that terminology. Just make sure you stop at Brookshire's and pick up some Boudreaux's Butt Paste before you make that ride down 90 next year 'cause Crosby's going to bust that %@$.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1387148" timestamp="1363800941"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1387030#msg1387030 date=1363781947] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=110322.msg1386771#msg1386771 date=1363730148] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110322.msg1386766#msg1386766 date=1363728399] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=110322.msg1386723#msg1386723 date=1363723024] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=110322.msg1386466#msg1386466 date=1363643581] [Hidden Content] I didnt know Dayton had the Walter Twins.  ;D [/quote]since the twins have never beat dayton maybe they should go here. All kidding aside they are very good athletes maybe just a little undersized. [/quote]Dayton is in decline though. Program is deteriorating under Hancock, Dayton's 17 year streak could be over. Plus the twins just turned 16, Austin (rb) got his first varsity carries as a 13 year old freshman. They still have 3 years to grow. [/quote]i would point out a few facts but it might be hard for you to handle. Once again congrats to all the kids on the list. [/quote]I don't think there's much for you to point out that's not going to do with what Dayton has done in the past. Dayton had one quality win last year and that was against Crosby. Last half of the season the offense stagnated and the defense didn't really stop anybody all year except BH. I know you'll bring up the winning streak against Crosby but like I said 17 years of that was Stewart. Hancock is 2-0 but the luster is quickly fading. Program has lost discipline and creativity on the coaching side. Once people got the Crosby vs Dayton film y'all never scored more than 13 points on a playoff team. There may be a few fact I can relay that might be hard for you to handle. Good health in the Cougar Den next year 'cause Lady Luck left the building when the legend took his headset off. [/quote]first can you please point out crosbys quality wins. Second crosby almost missed the playoffs with that nail biter against that salty kingwood park. Poor crosby fan stick to what you know best. BASKETBAL!! Last but not least. Dayton had no quality wins they played 2 good teams and lost to both. I hardly say crosby was a quality win. [/quote]I would call a playoff win quality first off. Second, all you have to do is watch the KP game on film. They called 3 penalties on Crosby inside the KP 5 yard line and gave them two fumbles in the first half. Second half KP got shut out and dominated. Even if we would have lost we would have finished 5-3 in the district in a three way tie and still finished 3rd advancing on point differential. Second, once the film was in Dayton looked like trash the last three weeks of the season barely managing 100 yards of total offense and needing a last minute run by Chambers to assure a second place district finish. Lost by almost 40 to SC and barely scrounged anything out of the Ned game. Like I said, the coaching is diminishing while your rivals are getting better so don't be surprised if that "salty" KP team keeps Dayton out of the playoffs this year.