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Manor has gotten some long passing plays or it could be worse. Austin has one, Singleton (wr#15) has two and over 100 yards. Hopefully we put this thing on ice with our feature back in the second half. Manor is getting behind and starting to throw long passes. We had and int. before half on one and probably will get some more of the same opportunities in the second. We only play one half usually though so it's still a toss-up.

SC had a problem with Crosby and Vidor moving the ball, just didn't put up the necessary points. Come on Creek. Don't make it seem like the reason for the previous dominance was the enrollment total people were talking about.

24-13 Crosby at the half. Crosby ball after halftime.

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1338107" timestamp="1353446927"] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=106444.msg1338094#msg1338094 date=1353445163] [quote author=BHFAN link=topic=106444.msg1337862#msg1337862 date=1353427085] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106444.msg1337847#msg1337847 date=1353426184] [quote author=BHFAN link=topic=106444.msg1336994#msg1336994 date=1353341470] First this Ozen team is not the same team that BH played last year and we scored 37 on them in regulation not 15. Ozen had Green last year along with #1 RB. I'm just saying if you guys are excited about Ozen taking you into OT then thats your call. Livingston beat Ozen and we shut Livingston COMPLETLY out. The Coogs should have dominated this game from beggining to end ,but keept Ozen in the game with poor play calling and execution. Manor will be a lot better than Ozen, stumble against them and your done. [/quote]You scored 14 more and gave up 25 more, which one is better? I'll take the 22 and giving up 15 instead of 40 at home. Playcalling wasn't poor, it's just harder to throw passes on Ozen than BH because they actually have dbs that can stay with our receivers. We ran similar plays on BH but the receivers just smoked your dbs and dropped the ball. Yeah, Livingston beat Ozen  and we should have on paper at least dominated them, but that's like me saying BH couldn't move the ball on a weak Dayton defense or Summer Creek. We'll see how BH does against Elgin, spread offense with speed on the edges and a running game. Last two games BH played against a Crosby team like that they gave up 900+ yards and 70 points, good luck though. We both win two more we get to meet in Stallworth and watch Crosby cropdust BH again. [/quote] I love how you talk about Dayton and SC vs. BH ... LOL both of those teams dominated your kitty kats while BH played them close without thier starting QB. IF BH and Crosby meet again BH would mop the stadium with that crap yall threw at Ozen ;D ;D ;D Here's to Manor Shutting up Cougar14 (if that is even possible) ;) [/quote]I think Bh would beat Crosby now also their defense has improved alot after that 1st game , I also think Vidor wouldve beat Nederland if their game wouldve been towards the end of the season. JMO [/quote] Yeah , but knuckle head don't see it that way ;D After giving away 35 to Crosby BH only allowed 41 points total through the next 8 games!! Thats a 5 point a game average :o Crosby made Ozen look like a regional finalist last Saturday ;) Hopefully they have gotten all of that out of thier system because it only gets tougher from here. I do hope Crosby advances and good luck to them. [/quote]First of all, how would you know it only gets tougher from here? You've never seen BH in a second round playoff game. Second, we heard the same story last year from BH when they were talking about the three backs with 600 yards. All I saw was little red lasers running up and down the field. Mirror image of this year and will surely look the same next with senior twins. Good luck to y'all too. We both win two more and y'all get to get another whipping with everybody in the SETX watching, that way everybody can see how non-competetive the prey looks against the predator. Instead of just 300 yards, I think Austin would put 350 on y'all this time though. After next year he's going to be close to 1000 total yards on BH alone.

[quote name="songone" post="1338096" timestamp="1353445593"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106400.msg1338075#msg1338075 date=1353442896] [quote author=songone link=topic=106400.msg1338016#msg1338016 date=1353438373] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=106400.msg1336944#msg1336944 date=1353338491] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=106400.msg1336739#msg1336739 date=1353291963] [quote author=cpujt8 link=topic=106400.msg1336717#msg1336717 date=1353291031] S.C.-This is Manvel, Northshore, Katy, PAM, LaPorte-see you soon-signed, 5a p.s.-you won't scare us 8) [/quote] None of the teams on that list could stop this offense. Where SC would have trouble is on defense. I've seen some mammoth O-lineman on those teams. That aside, SC matches up well. Northshore needs to win some 7-on-7 vs SC in the offseason before trying to beat us in d regular season. Katy owns Northshore anyway. Katy has a smooth striding running back, but that dude is SLOW. I don't see SC going 5A. If anything, Atascocita might drop down to 4A. [/quote]Katy would shut you guys out! IMO! [/quote]It's a lot of 5A teams that would beat the dog censored out of SC right now... I thought Manvel was tough censored last year too & yes we were a great 4A team.  5A is a rude awakening bro... I know, I'm experiencing it now.  Early in the season PAM would have drug Manvel up and down the field. (and I'm a Manvel fan). Honestly 5A is a whole different ball game in the trenches.  Playing a teams like NS convinced me of that.  When a team has 2 or 3 different, big and talented lines on both side of the ball to throw at you for 4 quarters, depth immediatedly becomes an issue.  And the average 5A team never quit... never!  LP and PAM has learned how to play against the big schools... Scheme wise, clock wise etc... It's not easy bro.  SC can't beat half the teams that lost in the 1st round of 5A playoffs. ex:  PAM, Pearland, Cy Falls, Lake Travis, Cy Fair, Klein Oak, Spring Dekaney... etc  Manvel would probably be ranked #1 4A without the alignment.  Now we just in the middle of the pack taking it one game at a time.  It ain't easy.  There's no Yates, Sharpstowns etc... in 5A playoffs. [/quote]I believe the best high school football in the country is played in Texas at the 5a level. I think you might be overstating it a little bit though. Teams like DeSoto, North Shore, Dallas Skyline, Allen, Westfield, and Euless Trinity are usually good year after year because of their talent pool. A team like Katy on the other hand is good because of the system and coaching. Katy has 5 titles I believe but maybe other than lineman don't produce a lot of highly recruited talent in comparison to the previous schools I mentioned. This is why I think Travis is going to have trouble now that their talent pool doesn't dwarf everybody elses. I know everybody is going to say Andy Dalton which I agree with but he became that under Gary Patterson in college, I think he only had like two D1 offers out of Katy. That's why guys like Dean and Mitchell went to college but got beat out by much less sought after kids and transferred. Dean is getting some playing time at TCU right now but that's beacause Waymon James and another guy are hurt. Katy has a good back now but I think if you put any capable back behind that line you get similar numbers, it doesn't even look like a drop off when you put the backup in. Lake Travis was in a similar situation in 4a, great coaching and system but not the Saturday talent you get with a 4a SC right now. Garrett Gilbert is a prime example of this, he was the Gatorade national player of the year and set the Horns back 5 years. He's even killing SMU right now. Manvel is similar to SC where they have good coaching but the main reason they're good is because of their Saturday talent. I think SC would be just like Manvel is right now in 5a if they had the same enrollment. I think SC would beat this year's PAM team too, they aren't as good as last year. [/quote]I respect your opinion... [b]I just don't think a team that beat a one dimensional BH team 24-7 this time of year is capable of beating a seasoned 5A team like PAM.  WHATEVER YOU DO BEST... THEY WILL TAKE AWAY!  BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE TALENT & SAVY TO DO IT. [/b]  I guarantee half the 4A teams SC played did not have the players on the field to come close to competing like that.  I've been on both sides of the fence... It's a different ballgame.  Your trenches must be nasty bro.  Average skill players and NASTY TRENCHES will get you deep in the playoffs.  (ie KATY) Great skill players and a average trench play will have you in a jam every Friday night. (ie CY FALLS)... JMO... [/quote]They also got held to 299 total yards by a 4-7 4a team SC would have rolled up nearly 500 on easily. SC played their worse game of the year on BH and was still up 21 points in the 4th quarter. BH isn't a good example anyway because they run it every play and the games are short with limited possessions. BH is similar to Katy though, not a lot of talent but extremely well coached and disciplined. I think they only gave up more than 24 points once on the season and that was to a team with a rb that's going to have over 2,000 yards this year.

[quote name="TIGERATTACK" post="1338093" timestamp="1353445129"] You also have to remember, that Katy demolished Humble when it was sporting 5000+ kids.  When your Varsity was as big as ours.  When you were far more talented, far faster, and at times even better coached.  You took it to us one year, only to lose to us in the playoffs in what wasn't even a game.  Ive seen the best Humble area has to offer, trust me some of the names that came out of Humble high school are Texas football legends.  They just weren't enough.    Best team the Humble ISD team i saw was hands down the Wildcats 97 team.  Probably the best i have ever seen, unfortunetly they had their key players out in the playoff game against Beaumont.  shame too, you don't have that sort of talent on your team but once ever 20-30 years. [/quote]Humble has never had 5000 kids, this is their highest listed enrollment:[Hidden Content] Gary Joseph is the reason Katy is what it is, not their talent. Prime example - Katy 5 state titles, North Shore 1 Current NFL players                                                                                            Katy                        North Shore                                           Andy Dalton              Corey Redding(Colts)                                                                           Chykie Brown(Ravens)                                                                           Earl Mitchell(Texans)                                                                           Andre Gurode                                                                           Kevin Rutland(Jaguars) Soon to be Trey Hopkins at Texas also. I could put the current college players on there but I would run out of space. Y'all had one big time recruit at Katy and he flamed out at UCLA once he wasn't running behind a high school line that made tunnels. If Gary Joseph was at North Shore with that kind of talent he would have would probably have a college job by now like Chad Morris (Clemson) got when he was at Travis. Has Katy ever won a title in D1?

[quote name="songone" post="1338016" timestamp="1353438373"] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=106400.msg1336944#msg1336944 date=1353338491] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=106400.msg1336739#msg1336739 date=1353291963] [quote author=cpujt8 link=topic=106400.msg1336717#msg1336717 date=1353291031] S.C.-This is Manvel, Northshore, Katy, PAM, LaPorte-see you soon-signed, 5a p.s.-you won't scare us 8) [/quote] None of the teams on that list could stop this offense. Where SC would have trouble is on defense. I've seen some mammoth O-lineman on those teams. That aside, SC matches up well. Northshore needs to win some 7-on-7 vs SC in the offseason before trying to beat us in d regular season. Katy owns Northshore anyway. Katy has a smooth striding running back, but that dude is SLOW. I don't see SC going 5A. If anything, Atascocita might drop down to 4A. [/quote]Katy would shut you guys out! IMO! [/quote]It's a lot of 5A teams that would beat the dog censored out of SC right now... I thought Manvel was tough censored last year too & yes we were a great 4A team.  5A is a rude awakening bro... I know, I'm experiencing it now.  Early in the season PAM would have drug Manvel up and down the field. (and I'm a Manvel fan). Honestly 5A is a whole different ball game in the trenches.  Playing a teams like NS convinced me of that.  When a team has 2 or 3 different, big and talented lines on both side of the ball to throw at you for 4 quarters, depth immediatedly becomes an issue.  And the average 5A team never quit... never!  LP and PAM has learned how to play against the big schools... Scheme wise, clock wise etc... It's not easy bro.  SC can't beat half the teams that lost in the 1st round of 5A playoffs. ex:  PAM, Pearland, Cy Falls, Lake Travis, Cy Fair, Klein Oak, Spring Dekaney... etc  Manvel would probably be ranked #1 4A without the alignment.  Now we just in the middle of the pack taking it one game at a time.  It ain't easy.  There's no Yates, Sharpstowns etc... in 5A playoffs. [/quote]I believe the best high school football in the country is played in Texas at the 5a level. I think you might be overstating it a little bit though. Teams like DeSoto, North Shore, Dallas Skyline, Allen, Westfield, and Euless Trinity are usually good year after year because of their talent pool. A team like Katy on the other hand is good because of the system and coaching. Katy has 5 titles I believe but maybe other than lineman don't produce a lot of highly recruited talent in comparison to the previous schools I mentioned. This is why I think Travis is going to have trouble now that their talent pool doesn't dwarf everybody elses. I know everybody is going to say Andy Dalton which I agree with but he became that under Gary Patterson in college, I think he only had like two D1 offers out of Katy. That's why guys like Dean and Mitchell went to college but got beat out by much less sought after kids and transferred. Dean is getting some playing time at TCU right now but that's beacause Waymon James and another guy are hurt. Katy has a good back now but I think if you put any capable back behind that line you get similar numbers, it doesn't even look like a drop off when you put the backup in. Lake Travis was in a similar situation in 4a, great coaching and system but not the Saturday talent you get with a 4a SC right now. Garrett Gilbert is a prime example of this, he was the Gatorade national player of the year and set the Horns back 5 years. He's even killing SMU right now. Manvel is similar to SC where they have good coaching but the main reason they're good is because of their Saturday talent. I think SC would be just like Manvel is right now in 5a if they had the same enrollment. I think SC would beat this year's PAM team too, they aren't as good as last year.

[quote name="C O Wilson Bullpups" post="1337863" timestamp="1353427119"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106459.msg1337398#msg1337398 date=1353365068] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=106459.msg1337267#msg1337267 date=1353357368] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106459.msg1337252#msg1337252 date=1353356195] I know the 20-4a fans hope it's Crosby. If the 3rd place team from 17-4a beats Ned and Crosby beats the second place team from 17-4a its going to look even worse for 20-4a. Manor just beat Connally the last game of the season for 2nd. Ned definitely has the easiest draw. Just putting the SETX on notice though: If Crosby knocks off Manor you can pencil us in for the regional championship against Texas City/FB Marshall winner. There's a report that one of our 3 year starters at LB broke his foot at the end of the game though, if this is true we just lost a big playmaker on defense which we really couldn't afford against a team that can move it like Manor. I still love our chances though. [/quote] How so?  we already beat you head-to-head.  Never mind, that's the reason for your post anyway. :) [/quote]You beat us head to head with in the first game with our new coach and live play-calling. We've progressed since then. We had an ugly loss to Dayton but had more yards than Ned and scored the same 21 points, defense just decided not to come to Liberty County with the rest of the team. Y'all scored 21 on us and put that same 21 on Dayton. I don't think Ned could beat us now, plus you know when we get Ned in the playoffs you can pencil in the W or at least that's how the last couple playoff meetings went. Either way good w this year, see you in Crosby next year . . . . . and y'all know how those games west of the river go. ;) [/quote] Nederland would still beat Crosby... and their TWINS... Actually I think the twins brother is better than the twins... Lucky you all went Div. II or Vidor would have shown you how real 20-4A football is played again this year... [/quote]Lucky you still sell hot dogs, otherwise you would have to revert to selling playoff tickets to Vidor fans.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1337857" timestamp="1353426774"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106444.msg1337837#msg1337837 date=1353425412] [quote author=Chrcj71 link=topic=106444.msg1337501#msg1337501 date=1353373666] This one is gonna be a shoot out. If the Twins from Crosby are as dynamic as you guys say they are, this should be a very close game. Manor has been good against the run ever since the Leander game. That game taught us a lesson about "big boy" football.  We are extremely quick at the skill positions. [b]If Manor cuts out the turnovers and penalties from last week (4 TO's, 16 penalties), we should be able to pull this one out.[/b][/quote]And if we had cut the two redzone turnovers out we would have put up 30+. The first td Ozen had was because of a penalty where we stopped them on 4th and 5 where they tried to hit Brown in the endzone but the Crosby db made a play on it. Ozen got a first down because the Crosby corner on the other side of the field lined up offsides, they got a first down and scored from like the 4 yardline. They should have only had 7 pts had it not been for a cheap penalty. I thought the last fumble at the 5 was a bad call because Aston's arm and head clearly hit the ground first which is the only reason why the ball popped out, so that call cost us another 7 but Aston could have slid instead of jumping over the guys head and probably avoided the turnover. Crosby's offense has never had a problem moving the ball on anybody, anywhere, any time. Our problem has always been defense, penalties and turnovers. Defense put up the second best performance of the year vs Ozen and offense moved it the second most. Aston fumbled, but it was a bad call and you really can't tell him not to go all out in that situation. Next play he would have turned around and handed it to his brother on the 5 yardline and there probably wouldn't be a discussion. Austin put up 200+ yards (most of anybody all year), and Aston should have had around 150 through the air bet he missed Singleton on a post for about a 50 yard td. Ozen didn't have one turnover the whole game besides the fumble on the last play of the game Crosby jumped on in OT. Manor gives us 4 extra possessions and 16 penalties to go with it you can put Crosby in the regional championship. [/quote] [b]But but but........if only if only if only...... Lmao you sure love to live in "what if" land a lot kid.[/b][/quote]You sure love to comment on football threads when it's basketball season old man. "IF if if and only if we didn't get summer creek we would be in the third round." I would probably stay on the football thread too though if they averaged more than my basketball team. :'( PS: Isn't it about time for you to move your house again and cut the grass underneath it?

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1337862" timestamp="1353427085"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106444.msg1337847#msg1337847 date=1353426184] [quote author=BHFAN link=topic=106444.msg1336994#msg1336994 date=1353341470] First this Ozen team is not the same team that BH played last year and we scored 37 on them in regulation not 15. Ozen had Green last year along with #1 RB. I'm just saying if you guys are excited about Ozen taking you into OT then thats your call. Livingston beat Ozen and we shut Livingston COMPLETLY out. The Coogs should have dominated this game from beggining to end ,but keept Ozen in the game with poor play calling and execution. Manor will be a lot better than Ozen, stumble against them and your done. [/quote]You scored 14 more and gave up 25 more, which one is better? I'll take the 22 and giving up 15 instead of 40 at home. Playcalling wasn't poor, it's just harder to throw passes on Ozen than BH because they actually have dbs that can stay with our receivers. We ran similar plays on BH but the receivers just smoked your dbs and dropped the ball. Yeah, Livingston beat Ozen  and we should have on paper at least dominated them, but that's like me saying BH couldn't move the ball on a weak Dayton defense or Summer Creek. We'll see how BH does against Elgin, spread offense with speed on the edges and a running game. Last two games BH played against a Crosby team like that they gave up 900+ yards and 70 points, good luck though. We both win two more we get to meet in Stallworth and watch Crosby cropdust BH again. [/quote] I love how you talk about Dayton and SC vs. BH ... LOL both of those teams dominated your kitty kats while BH played them close without thier starting QB. IF BH and Crosby meet again BH would mop the stadium with that crap yall threw at Ozen ;D ;D ;D Here's to Manor Shutting up Cougar14 (if that is even possible) ;) [/quote]They scored points on us, y'all didn't move the ball. We put 35 on you with the crap we threw at Ozen and your offense looked like the jv in the second half once we adjusted. You haven't shut us up in two years and 4 out of the last 5. We toyed with y'all two years in a row and would have beat you by 25 or more if our receivers weren't dropping balls. Y'all averaged 8 points a game on SC, Crosby, and Dayton. Crosby averaged over 450 yards per game and 26 points on BH, SC, and Dayton. Hopefully we get to roll y'all again to let your know where you still stand with Crosby.

[quote name="Cat22" post="1337899" timestamp="1353428632"] Hate this for Coach Pev.  He really loves that university and town, but like any coaching job it's about the Ws.  He will get a good assistant job somewhere, maybe back at LSU.  He has never coached high school so I really don't see him going that route. [/quote]Coach Peveto recruited me whenever he was the d-backs coach at UH. Wish I would have played form him instead of letting my ego get in the way of a position switch. I think he goes back to the FBS as a position coach. I think he's too acclimated to the college game to drop down and take a high school job unless it was one of the more premier jobs in the state. Who knows though, he might be tired of the college grind.

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1336994" timestamp="1353341470"] First this Ozen team is not the same team that BH played last year and we scored 37 on them in regulation not 15. Ozen had Green last year along with #1 RB. I'm just saying if you guys are excited about Ozen taking you into OT then thats your call. Livingston beat Ozen and we shut Livingston COMPLETLY out. The Coogs should have dominated this game from beggining to end ,but keept Ozen in the game with poor play calling and execution. Manor will be a lot better than Ozen, stumble against them and your done. [/quote]You scored 14 more and gave up 25 more, which one is better? I'll take the 22 and giving up 15 instead of 40 at home. Playcalling wasn't poor, it's just harder to throw passes on Ozen than BH because they actually have dbs that can stay with our receivers. We ran similar plays on BH but the receivers just smoked your dbs and dropped the ball. Yeah, Livingston beat Ozen  and we should have on paper at least dominated them, but that's like me saying BH couldn't move the ball on a weak Dayton defense or Summer Creek. We'll see how BH does against Elgin, spread offense with speed on the edges and a running game. Last two games BH played against a Crosby team like that they gave up 900+ yards and 70 points, good luck though. We both win two more we get to meet in Stallworth and watch Crosby cropdust BH again. 

[quote name="Chrcj71" post="1337501" timestamp="1353373666"] This one is gonna be a shoot out. If the Twins from Crosby are as dynamic as you guys say they are, this should be a very close game. Manor has been good against the run ever since the Leander game. That game taught us a lesson about "big boy" football.  We are extremely quick at the skill positions. [b]If Manor cuts out the turnovers and penalties from last week (4 TO's, 16 penalties), we should be able to pull this one out.[/b][/quote]And if we had cut the two redzone turnovers out we would have put up 30+. The first td Ozen had was because of a penalty where we stopped them on 4th and 5 where they tried to hit Brown in the endzone but the Crosby db made a play on it. Ozen got a first down because the Crosby corner on the other side of the field lined up offsides, they got a first down and scored from like the 4 yardline. They should have only had 7 pts had it not been for a cheap penalty. I thought the last fumble at the 5 was a bad call because Aston's arm and head clearly hit the ground first which is the only reason why the ball popped out, so that call cost us another 7 but Aston could have slid instead of jumping over the guys head and probably avoided the turnover. Crosby's offense has never had a problem moving the ball on anybody, anywhere, any time. Our problem has always been defense, penalties and turnovers. Defense put up the second best performance of the year vs Ozen and offense moved it the second most. Aston fumbled, but it was a bad call and you really can't tell him not to go all out in that situation. Next play he would have turned around and handed it to his brother on the 5 yardline and there probably wouldn't be a discussion. Austin put up 200+ yards (most of anybody all year), and Aston should have had around 150 through the air bet he missed Singleton on a post for about a 50 yard td. Ozen didn't have one turnover the whole game besides the fumble on the last play of the game Crosby jumped on in OT. Manor gives us 4 extra possessions and 16 penalties to go with it you can put Crosby in the regional championship. 

[quote name="Brubaker" post="1337674" timestamp="1353384335"] Razor, some folks just don't know REAL football, this ain't 7 on 7.  They will find out this ain't touch football.  Like you said, wasting your breath trying to help DEMDAWGS see the light, kid has humblegoggles on.  I do hope they make it to find out what real TEXAS football defense is. [/quote]Are you saying Vidor's defense sucked? They held y'all to under 300 yards and put up over 300 on your D. Held you to the usual 20 or 21 points y'all score and had a could've won if they could throw a forward pass. Y'all struggled with Vidor where SC looked like they were running wind sprints on them. All SC would have to do is score 22 points to beat Ned.

[quote name="Eagle11" post="1337307" timestamp="1353360858"] [quote author=HDBobcats9 link=topic=106513.msg1337304#msg1337304 date=1353360724] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=106513.msg1337282#msg1337282 date=1353358559] only players on film that IMO could have went pro out of school are: Marcus Dupree, Earl Campbell and [b]Adrian Peterson[/b]. [/quote] Back when  Maurice Clarrett challenged the 3 year out of high school rule and won, opening the door for USC WR Mike Williams in 2004 before it was overturned. I remember hearing that Adrian Peterson (a HS senior at the time) was pretty set on entering the draft out of high school before all that got flip flopped. He was a projected Top 10 NFL pick if he entered the draft. After 1900 yards rushing his freshman season at OU, (and all his success since then) he proved that would not have been a mistake. I am a big supporter of the rule that you must wait until 3 years after your graduating class. I hate what it has done to college basketball with one and done players, and even worse when you could go straight out of high school. The NBA game has been affected by this as well. [/quote] I think the NCAA needs to change their stance on Basketball players........I think they should have to stay in school 2 years once they sign with a school [/quote]I think once you go to college you should have to stay three years. Your hear the stories all the time about basketball players going to class their fall semester and not showing up for the spring and entering the draft that summer. I think that kind of makes a sham out of the student-athlete idea. Still think you should be able to come straight out of high school and go to the NBA though. There aren't many kids who have gone that route and failed, might not have been the superstars they were projected to be but not failures. NFL rules on prep players are fine I think.

[quote name="Smoking Baby" post="1337541" timestamp="1353376362"] Since you fine folks have been doubting me in the playoff predictions, go ahead and keep on.  Nederland will lose by 10 and Crosby will get blow out.  SC has a battle on their hands, but a late turnover will save them.  Crosby will flop and lose BIG time.  BH will win by 17. [/quote]I agree with you most of the time Smoke but not here. Connally averaged 8 pts a game on a combination of Leander, Georgetown, and Manor. They put 46 on Elgin but they're the 4th place team, they also put 33 on Montgomery but I've been trying to tell you guys all year 18-4a was weak this year. Crosby had a track meet in the Magnolia West scrimmage and beat Willis by 50 and put over 600 yards on them so you really can't judge Connally off the Montgomery win. I think Ned gets their usual 20 or 21 and Connally can't. I agree with you on Crosby, we could easily go up there and turn the ball over 4 or 5 times and get blown out. I'm banking you get the Crosby that moved the ball like they did on BH, Dayton, and SC. You're judging us on the Ozen game but you have to remember this was basically the same .500 Ozen that came into Mont Belvieu and put 40 on you last year to continue your one-n-dones. I'm expecting the same kind of defensive effort with a couple more touchdowns vs Manor. I like our chances on holding them to 35 or less. Twins are coming into their own this year, win or lose Austin is going to probably cross the 2,000 yard mark on the season and that's on a team where his brother might cross the 2,000 yard mark passing in the same game. I'll take the twins, the way our defense is playing right now, and Jeff Riordan.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1337426" timestamp="1353366952"] yourhoustonnews.mycapture.com Cougar14,  dont know if it will come up on here or not you would have to look under that, and if you can post that pic for me That release is way above the shoulder pads..... [/quote]Those aren't good pics either, this one looks like he's sidearming it: [Hidden Content] This one looks more like the low release point I was talking about: [Hidden Content] Can't tell from a picture because it's just one frame of a progression. I still think he goes big time and gets at least a dozen offers, but these are some kids that are similar that have had some of these offers for over a year that are on Sharp's level. *click on "show all" under where it says they committed to show all they offers they received* 1. JT Barrett -  [Hidden Content] 2. Kenny Hill - [Hidden Content] 3. Devante Kincaid - [Hidden Content] Sharp reminds me a lot of my cousin. He accomplished more than Sharp has at a bigger program and they told him the exact same thing about his release point. They still wanted him though because they thought he was just that good, which is why I don't think Aaron will have any issues. Same size in high school but Christian was a better runner. Christian wasn't as accurate though where Sharp is deadly accurate. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1337395" timestamp="1353365024"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106497.msg1337278#msg1337278 date=1353357995] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=106497.msg1337236#msg1337236 date=1353355318] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106497.msg1337018#msg1337018 date=1353342946] [quote author=jkbtjc53 link=topic=106497.msg1336989#msg1336989 date=1353341224] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106497.msg1336946#msg1336946 date=1353338664] [quote author=jkbtjc53 link=topic=106497.msg1336856#msg1336856 date=1353300915] [b]If he's going to play fbs football then he will go juco first. In this day an age of recruiting if you dnt have and offer from a FBS.[/b] School you probably wont get one, most teams are full. Im suprised Mcneese Lamar and SFA haven't offered [/quote]That's exactly the opposite of the truth, only the elite talents have offers now. On normal kids schools wait because they always think they can get players they can't. They have a certain number of slots to fill at a certain position. If a school is looking at dbs they have a wish list and a another list of who they would take if all those kids commit. Pick an offer/commit sheet to look at on ESPN, right now you have all the "wish" kids with offers and the others with just "interest". When the "wish" kids commit then they offer the "interest" kids, but that usually isn't until January when they review all the kids on their "big board's" senior season. A lot of seniors right now are just getting recruiting calls and letters, once it gets closer to signing day you will start to see those turn into offers. Kids like Mitchell and Raliegh Johnson just have interest right now, by the new year they'll start to pick up offers. Jakobi Jones doesn't have an official offer on rivals yet either, do you think he's going to Lamar or McNeese? Please post what you know. Recruiting has jumped over the years if you dnt have and offer by now from a fbs school your probably not getting one. [b]And yes Jakobi Jones will end up at a juco or Lamar or Mcneese type of school.[/b] I do all the recruiting for WOS and most of my kids had offers before the season started and while they are all talented experts wouldn't call them elite. [/quote] [/quote]If he goes to a school like that it's going to be grades or other issues, he's small but they take kids that size all the time. It's probably more along the situation I had my senior year with UH. Coach Bradley Peveto recruited me after I blew away a 7 on 7 camp but told me he had to recruit me as an athlete if Anthony Evans committed as a rb, Jones is most likely in the same situation. It's idiodic to think that some seniors now won't have offers three months from now though. Your basically saying recruiters say, "we're only taking kids that have great junior years, forget what they do when they're seniors."I am posting what I know, I was recruited and offered by SFA, Sam, and McNeese as well as other FCS and D2 schools. I didn't get an FBS offer until around January when I committed to Rice after being recruited by Barney Farrarh, two or three days before signing day I found out that I wasn't going to qualify and wanted to take the scholarship offer I had to play db at UH but they were fully committed by then so I went to South Dakota State instead. Coach Farrarh wanted me to go to East Mississippi or Southeast Mississippi JUCO for a year to get my grades up but back then I thought I was above a JUCO. These are the WOS kids for this year, maybe I shouldn't have used the word elite and instead said "being shown interest from multiple FBS schools". The WOS kids are on some FBS schools "wish" list and therefore have impressive offer sheets already.  [Hidden Content] [/quote] You are the same one said Sharp from Summer Creek don't have offers because of his release point....I'm not saying he will get offers, but not too many colleges come after QBs until their spring junior season or senior year.....yea some are offered early, but those are the "Elite" ones I guess [/quote]He already has been offered by FBS schools last summer so I didn't say he wouldn't be offered. I was just saying there is a reason one of the most prolific passers in the state who's been playing in varsity games since he was a freshman didn't have MORE offers. He does drop it down and sling it from right above the shoulder pads. I said in post numerous times I thought he was going to be in the ESPNU 150 so that tells you what I think. If you read what I put you would see I said I thought he would go to the Big 12 or SEC, I'm sure he'll probably pick up double digit offers in the spring and summer. You should probably read mine before you post yours, come on now your acting like May. [/quote] Lmbo!  ;D now see, I'm not acting like her...I'm gonna put a picture of Sharp's release on the thread " memorable year for Sharp" and you look at it and comment. But back to central QB, I'm still looking for his highlights, and I saw where he had Texas Tech as a school of interest, maybe they will offer him in January [/quote]I think the reason he doesn't have a big offer yet is because FBS school are looking at him as an athlete and not a qb. He's competing with kids like Collins and Sezar to be brought in as an "athlete" but may not be seen as having the same versatility as the other two. Hopefully he gets to fill all 5 official visits and showcase what he can do when they test him out on his recruiting trips. I hate when a kid's senior year he has a terrible season or gets hurt. I think he'll be getting some love by the middle of January though.

[quote name="bigdog" post="1337267" timestamp="1353357368"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106459.msg1337252#msg1337252 date=1353356195] I know the 20-4a fans hope it's Crosby. If the 3rd place team from 17-4a beats Ned and Crosby beats the second place team from 17-4a its going to look even worse for 20-4a. Manor just beat Connally the last game of the season for 2nd. Ned definitely has the easiest draw. Just putting the SETX on notice though: If Crosby knocks off Manor you can pencil us in for the regional championship against Texas City/FB Marshall winner. There's a report that one of our 3 year starters at LB broke his foot at the end of the game though, if this is true we just lost a big playmaker on defense which we really couldn't afford against a team that can move it like Manor. I still love our chances though. [/quote] How so?  we already beat you head-to-head.  Never mind, that's the reason for your post anyway. :) [/quote]You beat us head to head with in the first game with our new coach and live play-calling. We've progressed since then. We had an ugly loss to Dayton but had more yards than Ned and scored the same 21 points, defense just decided not to come to Liberty County with the rest of the team. Y'all scored 21 on us and put that same 21 on Dayton. I don't think Ned could beat us now, plus you know when we get Ned in the playoffs you can pencil in the W or at least that's how the last couple playoff meetings went. Either way good w this year, see you in Crosby next year . . . . . and y'all know how those games west of the river go. ;)

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1337285" timestamp="1353358893"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=106497.msg1336923#msg1336923 date=1353335765] It's making me mad all over again.  He wasn't showcased and his talents were wasted.  [/quote] Should "showcasing" an individual be the priority for HS teams? What about "teamwork" and [i]winning as a team[/i]? Yeah I get it; some kids are dominate, and they will make it to the next level, "showcased" or not. No one should be "mad" about a TEAM not "showcasing" an individual.    [/quote]People in Crosby asked the same thing after Marka committed to TCU, except it was the opposite. People wondered if Flannigan didn't showcase him his senior year because he had already committed. It seems like Casey got it less the year before he went to Baylor too. I think if you're a coach you do whatever you need to make sure you're going to make the mortage payment at the end of the year.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1337236" timestamp="1353355318"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106497.msg1337018#msg1337018 date=1353342946] [quote author=jkbtjc53 link=topic=106497.msg1336989#msg1336989 date=1353341224] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106497.msg1336946#msg1336946 date=1353338664] [quote author=jkbtjc53 link=topic=106497.msg1336856#msg1336856 date=1353300915] [b]If he's going to play fbs football then he will go juco first. In this day an age of recruiting if you dnt have and offer from a FBS.[/b] School you probably wont get one, most teams are full. Im suprised Mcneese Lamar and SFA haven't offered [/quote]That's exactly the opposite of the truth, only the elite talents have offers now. On normal kids schools wait because they always think they can get players they can't. They have a certain number of slots to fill at a certain position. If a school is looking at dbs they have a wish list and a another list of who they would take if all those kids commit. Pick an offer/commit sheet to look at on ESPN, right now you have all the "wish" kids with offers and the others with just "interest". When the "wish" kids commit then they offer the "interest" kids, but that usually isn't until January when they review all the kids on their "big board's" senior season. A lot of seniors right now are just getting recruiting calls and letters, once it gets closer to signing day you will start to see those turn into offers. Kids like Mitchell and Raliegh Johnson just have interest right now, by the new year they'll start to pick up offers. Jakobi Jones doesn't have an official offer on rivals yet either, do you think he's going to Lamar or McNeese? Please post what you know. Recruiting has jumped over the years if you dnt have and offer by now from a fbs school your probably not getting one. [b]And yes Jakobi Jones will end up at a juco or Lamar or Mcneese type of school.[/b] I do all the recruiting for WOS and most of my kids had offers before the season started and while they are all talented experts wouldn't call them elite. [/quote] [/quote]If he goes to a school like that it's going to be grades or other issues, he's small but they take kids that size all the time. It's probably more along the situation I had my senior year with UH. Coach Bradley Peveto recruited me after I blew away a 7 on 7 camp but told me he had to recruit me as an athlete if Anthony Evans committed as a rb, Jones is most likely in the same situation. It's idiodic to think that some seniors now won't have offers three months from now though. Your basically saying recruiters say, "we're only taking kids that have great junior years, forget what they do when they're seniors."I am posting what I know, I was recruited and offered by SFA, Sam, and McNeese as well as other FCS and D2 schools. I didn't get an FBS offer until around January when I committed to Rice after being recruited by Barney Farrarh, two or three days before signing day I found out that I wasn't going to qualify and wanted to take the scholarship offer I had to play db at UH but they were fully committed by then so I went to South Dakota State instead. Coach Farrarh wanted me to go to East Mississippi or Southeast Mississippi JUCO for a year to get my grades up but back then I thought I was above a JUCO. These are the WOS kids for this year, maybe I shouldn't have used the word elite and instead said "being shown interest from multiple FBS schools". The WOS kids are on some FBS schools "wish" list and therefore have impressive offer sheets already.  [Hidden Content] [/quote] You are the same one said Sharp from Summer Creek don't have offers because of his release point....I'm not saying he will get offers, but not too many colleges come after QBs until their spring junior season or senior year.....yea some are offered early, but those are the "Elite" ones I guess [/quote]He already has been offered by FBS schools last summer so I didn't say he wouldn't be offered. I was just saying there is a reason one of the most prolific passers in the state who's been playing in varsity games since he was a freshman didn't have MORE offers. He does drop it down and sling it from right above the shoulder pads. I said in post numerous times I thought he was going to be in the ESPNU 150 so that tells you what I think. If you read what I put you would see I said I thought he would go to the Big 12 or SEC, I'm sure he'll probably pick up double digit offers in the spring and summer. You should probably read mine before you post yours, come on now your acting like May.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1337237" timestamp="1353355496"] [quote author=C O Wilson Bullpups link=topic=106448.msg1337205#msg1337205 date=1353354141] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=106448.msg1336090#msg1336090 date=1353254917] Here's the thing, each week from PN-G to Crosby to BH to the mighty Dayton and last week hard nosed Vidor, SC was told they were in trouble. Each time we came out and over powered the competition with our high powered offense. I'm convinced NO team has seen an offense like SC this year. PN-G, Crosby, Dayton & Vidor are all very proud teams that never imagined it was possible to have 45+ points hung on 'em.  I'm not about to start doubting SC's offense now. SC's defense is the wild card in this game. They need to have a solid game and keep Georgetown to slow scores.  Our DB's need some picks.  The arm tackles must stop. I've never seen Georgetown play and I'm really curious to see if they're the another "great team" that's never seen a team of SC's level. [/quote] I cannot wait until a team blows out the Mighty Summer Creek Bulldawgs... Rather it will be Pearland Dawson or Nederland. [/quote] And we can't wait until Nederland get the breaks beat off them.....y'all barely beat Dayton, and Vidor.....we waiting to see what the Almighty bull pups will do [/quote]Lot of speculating going on but I don't think a Ned vs SC game even happens. Ned and Dawson are pretty much the same with Dawson having the more highly recruited players at the majority of positions. I don't think the 21 Ned would score would be enough for the 28 or 31 Dawson would score. 

I know the 20-4a fans hope it's Crosby. If the 3rd place team from 17-4a beats Ned and Crosby beats the second place team from 17-4a its going to look even worse for 20-4a. Manor just beat Connally the last game of the season for 2nd. Ned definitely has the easiest draw. Just putting the SETX on notice though: If Crosby knocks off Manor you can pencil us in for the regional championship against Texas City/FB Marshall winner. There's a report that one of our 3 year starters at LB broke his foot at the end of the game though, if this is true we just lost a big playmaker on defense which we really couldn't afford against a team that can move it like Manor. I still love our chances though.

I'll go with what Barry Switzer said on an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary. "I had only seen one kid I thought could make an NFL roster straight out of high school and he was from Tyler, TX . . . . that is until I saw Marcus Dupree." Barry Switzer kept OU on probation so his recruiting practices are definitely questionable but other than that he always seemed to shoot you straight. So I guess Earl probably could make an NFL roster. One of his former lineman, Steve Timmons works up here and tell me stories all the time about him killing people from the day he got to Austin.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1337014" timestamp="1353342740"] I love how before y'all played them you were saying this was gonna be a blow out and that Ozen wasn't gonna be able to contain your speed. But now that y'all barely got away with a win Ozen all of a sudden had the best secondary in the area and all this speed and athleticism. And please explain to me the statement about how Ned doesn't have the athletes to hold Ozen yet they shut them out. [/quote]Obviously reading comprehension isn't part of the cirriculum in Vidor, otherwise you wouldn't asked me why I said that. I said Ozen had better athletes in the secondary than Ned., you can argue that but I'll put the link up on who the recruiters are after. I didn't predict a blowout, I saw how many yards they held y'all and PA Memorial to so I knew it could be a tough game. Ozen has gotten blown out one time all year and that's by Ned. in Nederland, so I may have said we could blow it open but never thought we would just manhandle them. I look at stats remember, other than the Ned. predictions I don't speak from the heart but I had nothing else to go on in the first game of the season. If we played Vidor's schedule we would be 9-1 just like y'all, the two teams we played the scoring margins are a combined 6 pts. Don't overstate your place in the realm of relevance, you still have 2 playoff wins in 47 years and if Central doesn't make the playoffs next year you're most likely going to have those same 2 next year. By the way, here's the link to the basketball forum: [Hidden Content]