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Mosley, Standish, Robinson, Hebert, and more are still out. Liberty will be just fine.

[quote name="Donedeel!" post="1286243" timestamp="1348935928"] One win does not make a Season! [/quote] Who said it did? Can't get to two, three, or four wins without getting the first one. Stop being a hater and find something meaningful to do with your life.

[quote name="TexasMinuteman" post="1286141" timestamp="1348929534"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1285935#msg1285935 date=1348895434] S/o to all the haters that said Liberty wouldn't get a win blah blah blah etc etc. [/quote]Im not a "Liberty Hater" and I didnt think that a win could come their way either.I have confidence in the players that they can win and should win.What I dont have confidence in,to which Ive stated many times,is the coaching(ie play calling).   If Liberty can be consistant and play Tarkington and Shepherd the way they played this game,then they can pick up two more wins.Congradulations to Liberty on their homecoming win!! :) [/quote] Never excluded nor included you personally. Coaching sucks we all know that, 3 wins to go..

Only a matter of time before the next Bill Belichick comes on here and deems us "idiots." smh

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1285906" timestamp="1348894598"] Well that didn't take long. 4 weeks into the season and now Finney isn't the guy! ;) [/quote] Does kinda seem like you were implying so 55.. but I agree with the last post for the most part. Smaller schools have to adapt and build around what they have while keeping the best players on the field at all times. Often you will only have 3-4 "studs" if your lucky..

[quote name="89falcon" post="1279352" timestamp="1348356525"] [quote author=truth_hurts link=topic=103520.msg1279320#msg1279320 date=1348354208] We will still beat Tarkington.  Hopefully we can squeak by Splendora without Mosley and Jones.  Let them rest until after Huffman because of the bye the following week.  We aren't beating Huffman anyways.  Then take care of business against Cleveland, which will be tough, and we can possibly squeak into the 3rd spot. [/quote] You are way off if you think Liberty gest an automatic "W" against Tarkington. [b]Splendora and Cleveland are out of the question[/b]. Liberty will likely have to beat Shepherd to avoid 0-10. Tarkington is at least as good as HF. The QB, RB, and WR for Tarkington are outstanding, especially the QB. [/quote] SMH, see where hating gets you.. Finally this dumb a thread can cease.

finally getting it together

S/o to all the haters that said Liberty wouldn't get a win blah blah blah etc etc.

[quote name="indian15/16" post="1283377" timestamp="1348771589"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1283207#msg1283207 date=1348762428] [quote author=indian15/16 link=topic=103612.msg1283204#msg1283204 date=1348762239] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1283052#msg1283052 date=1348753588] [quote author=indian15/16 link=topic=103612.msg1282926#msg1282926 date=1348714541] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1280714#msg1280714 date=1348506226] Liberty is currently 0-0 where it counts just like everyone else. I could be wrong, but with the changes made I see 3rd and a one and done playoff run. [/quote]This is the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. Hilarious! [/quote] Right, because there's no validity to it at all. When your indians miss the playoffs come back to this thread and share with us how hilarious that is. [/quote]I'll gladly return to the thread even though it won't be necessary. Ftr, it's not that you could be wrong in your prediction, it's that you will be wrong. [/quote] Kinda like you were wrong about Liberty's record from last season, which just so happened to be the same as cleveland's.. go figure. [/quote]No, no, no, not the same. Cleveland's 7-3 record included punking Liberty in their own house last year! Let us not forget.  ;D [/quote] Punking Liberty? You mean getting dusted through 3 quarters and [b]luckily putting up 20 in the 4th to win by 5[/b] against a team who got big headed in games prior.. LOL

For those that find fault in my posts, just know that I post here mostly for entertainment purposes and most of the things I express aren't my actual beliefs but are for the sake of argument. I like to stir pots, take it for what it is. With that said, I'm just happy the kid is gonna get a chance to play anywhere. Outside of being 6'6 I've never been overly impressed either. Wish him all the best!

[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1283271" timestamp="1348766642"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1283207#msg1283207 date=1348762428] [quote author=indian15/16 link=topic=103612.msg1283204#msg1283204 date=1348762239] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1283052#msg1283052 date=1348753588] [quote author=indian15/16 link=topic=103612.msg1282926#msg1282926 date=1348714541] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1280714#msg1280714 date=1348506226] Liberty is currently 0-0 where it counts just like everyone else. I could be wrong, but with the changes made I see 3rd and a one and done playoff run. [/quote]This is the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. Hilarious! [/quote] Right, because there's no validity to it at all. When your indians miss the playoffs come back to this thread and share with us how hilarious that is. [/quote]I'll gladly return to the thread even though it won't be necessary. Ftr, it's not that you could be wrong in your prediction, it's that you will be wrong. [/quote] Kinda like you were wrong about Liberty's record from last season, which just so happened to be the same as cleveland's.. go figure. [/quote] Yeah, darn it.  I hate it when that happens.  How do the Liberty / Cleveland records compare this year?  Since, of course, there is nothing that can be done about last year, anyway. ??? [/quote] The only thing that counts is district records, correct me if I'm wrong.

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1283234" timestamp="1348764372"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1283205#msg1283205 date=1348762293] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=103661.msg1283195#msg1283195 date=1348761990] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1283155#msg1283155 date=1348760154] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=103661.msg1283065#msg1283065 date=1348754434] Did I say he didn't have talent?  Don't think I did.. You said "basically had offers from Tech and SMU while down here" You're an idiot if you believe that.  I know the kid can play.  I've seen him.  But he's not good enough for that level of football.  I guarantee it.  There are 100 4A and 5A qb's with his same size and ability, that also will not get offers to Big 12 schools. [/quote] You're an idiot for believing otherwise. I'm going off actual information, you're going off assumption. Let me school you on something, the size of your school doesn't determine your ability. While larger schools are viewed as generally more competitive, individual athletes are judged on multiple factors. Btw, you having seen him plays means NOTHING. YOU ARE NOT A TALENT SCOUT FOR ANYONE. AT ALL. Your thoughts and opinions are not the gospel, sorry to break it to you. I'll go with the intel I've received and you can go with your ASSumptions. At the end of the day insulting someone due to a difference of opinions just shows how pitiful you are as an individual. God bless you dude, concentrate on staying out your little feelings. [/quote] Actually, I asked a Liberty coach today, he told me that Fitz never had an official offer from Tech or SMU.  Sorry. [/quote] I know that. I NEVER said he had an OFFICIAL offer. Not once. [/quote] You are right, you said "basically had offers..."  Bottom line is, he wasn't going to play that level of football if he had stayed at Liberty, and he won't play that level of football from Calvary.  The coach I spoke to said he could, "absolutley" play college football, just not big time college football.  That's not a slight towards Fitz, there are not many guys in the entire country that can play big time college football. [/quote] Perhaps you're right..

[quote name="indian15/16" post="1283204" timestamp="1348762239"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1283052#msg1283052 date=1348753588] [quote author=indian15/16 link=topic=103612.msg1282926#msg1282926 date=1348714541] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1280714#msg1280714 date=1348506226] Liberty is currently 0-0 where it counts just like everyone else. I could be wrong, but with the changes made I see 3rd and a one and done playoff run. [/quote]This is the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. Hilarious! [/quote] Right, because there's no validity to it at all. When your indians miss the playoffs come back to this thread and share with us how hilarious that is. [/quote]I'll gladly return to the thread even though it won't be necessary. Ftr, it's not that you could be wrong in your prediction, it's that you will be wrong. [/quote] Kinda like you were wrong about Liberty's record from last season, which just so happened to be the same as cleveland's.. go figure.

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1283195" timestamp="1348761990"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1283155#msg1283155 date=1348760154] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=103661.msg1283065#msg1283065 date=1348754434] Did I say he didn't have talent?  Don't think I did.. You said "basically had offers from Tech and SMU while down here" You're an idiot if you believe that.  I know the kid can play.  I've seen him.  But he's not good enough for that level of football.  I guarantee it.  There are 100 4A and 5A qb's with his same size and ability, that also will not get offers to Big 12 schools. [/quote] You're an idiot for believing otherwise. I'm going off actual information, you're going off assumption. Let me school you on something, the size of your school doesn't determine your ability. While larger schools are viewed as generally more competitive, individual athletes are judged on multiple factors. Btw, you having seen him plays means NOTHING. YOU ARE NOT A TALENT SCOUT FOR ANYONE. AT ALL. Your thoughts and opinions are not the gospel, sorry to break it to you. I'll go with the intel I've received and you can go with your ASSumptions. At the end of the day insulting someone due to a difference of opinions just shows how pitiful you are as an individual. God bless you dude, concentrate on staying out your little feelings. [/quote] Actually, I asked a Liberty coach today, he told me that Fitz never had an official offer from Tech or SMU.  Sorry. [/quote] I know that. I NEVER said he had an OFFICIAL offer. Not once.

[quote name="knows2much" post="1283065" timestamp="1348754434"] Did I say he didn't have talent?  Don't think I did.. You said "basically had offers from Tech and SMU while down here" You're an idiot if you believe that.  I know the kid can play.  I've seen him.  But he's not good enough for that level of football.  I guarantee it.  There are 100 4A and 5A qb's with his same size and ability, that also will not get offers to Big 12 schools. [/quote] You're an idiot for believing otherwise. I'm going off actual information, you're going off assumption. Let me school you on something, the size of your school doesn't determine your ability. While larger schools are viewed as generally more competitive, individual athletes are judged on multiple factors. Btw, you having seen him plays means NOTHING. YOU ARE NOT A TALENT SCOUT FOR ANYONE. AT ALL. Your thoughts and opinions are not the gospel, sorry to break it to you. I'll go with the intel I've received and you can go with your ASSumptions. At the end of the day insulting someone due to a difference of opinions just shows how pitiful you are as an individual. God bless you dude, concentrate on staying out your little feelings.

[quote name="indian15/16" post="1282920" timestamp="1348714264"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1280903#msg1280903 date=1348512783] [quote author=1KatKiller link=topic=103612.msg1280804#msg1280804 date=1348509593] fallen on hard times??...how is this season any different than any of the others since Deel has been there? [/quote] 0-4 so far.. 7-3 last season [/quote]Incorrect [/quote] Where am I wrong genius?

[quote name="indian15/16" post="1282926" timestamp="1348714541"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103612.msg1280714#msg1280714 date=1348506226] Liberty is currently 0-0 where it counts just like everyone else. I could be wrong, but with the changes made I see 3rd and a one and done playoff run. [/quote]This is the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. Hilarious! [/quote] Right, because there's no validity to it at all. When your indians miss the playoffs come back to this thread and share with us how hilarious that is.

[quote name="knows2much" post="1283019" timestamp="1348750973"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1282691#msg1282691 date=1348691931] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=103661.msg1282306#msg1282306 date=1348664169] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1282178#msg1282178 date=1348624335] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=103661.msg1281772#msg1281772 date=1348595530] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=103661.msg1281627#msg1281627 date=1348587974] Really though.  Is that really his only offer?  That has to be a disappointment for his family since they uprooted to get him recruited.  He could've snagged that offer from Liberty.  (and the panthers might have scored a few td's this year with him.) [/quote] Only real offer?..  really?  UL Monroe is a D1 football program that just beat the #8 team in the country (Arkansas).  And then played ANOTHER SEC school to a 3 point loss (Auburn). Yeah what a disappointment.  His family should be ashamed that he was offered a free education to a school that beat an SEC school on national television.  What were they thinking? This is the real world guys.  Nobody cares how much a community does for your kid when it comes down to somebody that can do better.  If Fitz stayed at Liberty, no offer from a D1 school and most likely another missed trip to the playoffs. Several years ago a kid named Tony Bua left Liberty his senior yr for greener grass (after spending his entire life in Liberty).  Then played 4 years at Arkansas...then played several seasons in the NFL.  Should his parents also be "ashamed"?..  I don't think so. [/quote] Fitz basically had offers from Tech and SMU while down here.. not official yet, but I'm sure they're still around. [/quote] I think you may be confusing "offer" and recruitment letter.  I guarantee you that nobody from Liberty high school was offered anything from Texas Tech University for any type of athletics.  By the way...schools send out about 30,000 letters a year to kids that have any amount of size or talent.  That does not mean offer.  The kid's parents made the right decision this time.  I'm sure Fitz thinks so too. [/quote] Actually I'm well aware of the difference between a general interest letter and an offer, and you can't guarantee me anything. Except that you have no idea and are just assuming things. Ask Neal Brown.. smh at the hate on Liberty. [/quote] Oh ok.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I guess I was assuming.  I had no idea that Liberty High School was that good.  I mean, to have players on the roster turn down offers from a Big 12 school.  Wow.  Players that good, and still not make the playoffs.  Man those other schools in district must be LOADED.  [b]Thanks for making me realize how wrong I was.  What would I know about talent or recruiting.  I only played 4 years of college ball myself.  I'll never assume again.[/b] [/quote] Most ignorant quote ever, assuming you did even play in college that means nothing. MJ played years and years in the league and was the best ever, see how his talent assessment has been going. If you think Fitz doesn't have talent, well that thought speaks for itself.

[quote name="knows2much" post="1283019" timestamp="1348750973"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1282691#msg1282691 date=1348691931] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=103661.msg1282306#msg1282306 date=1348664169] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1282178#msg1282178 date=1348624335] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=103661.msg1281772#msg1281772 date=1348595530] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=103661.msg1281627#msg1281627 date=1348587974] Really though.  Is that really his only offer?  That has to be a disappointment for his family since they uprooted to get him recruited.  He could've snagged that offer from Liberty.  (and the panthers might have scored a few td's this year with him.) [/quote] Only real offer?..  really?  UL Monroe is a D1 football program that just beat the #8 team in the country (Arkansas).  And then played ANOTHER SEC school to a 3 point loss (Auburn). Yeah what a disappointment.  His family should be ashamed that he was offered a free education to a school that beat an SEC school on national television.  What were they thinking? This is the real world guys.  Nobody cares how much a community does for your kid when it comes down to somebody that can do better.  If Fitz stayed at Liberty, no offer from a D1 school and most likely another missed trip to the playoffs. Several years ago a kid named Tony Bua left Liberty his senior yr for greener grass (after spending his entire life in Liberty).  Then played 4 years at Arkansas...then played several seasons in the NFL.  Should his parents also be "ashamed"?..  I don't think so. [/quote] Fitz basically had offers from Tech and SMU while down here.. not official yet, but I'm sure they're still around. [/quote] I think you may be confusing "offer" and recruitment letter.  I guarantee you that nobody from Liberty high school was offered anything from Texas Tech University for any type of athletics.  By the way...schools send out about 30,000 letters a year to kids that have any amount of size or talent.  That does not mean offer.  The kid's parents made the right decision this time.  I'm sure Fitz thinks so too. [/quote] Actually I'm well aware of the difference between a general interest letter and an offer, and you can't guarantee me anything. Except that you have no idea and are just assuming things. Ask Neal Brown.. smh at the hate on Liberty. [/quote] Oh ok.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I guess I was assuming.  I had no idea that Liberty High School was that good.  I mean, to have players on the roster turn down offers from a Big 12 school.  Wow.  Players that good, and still not make the playoffs.  Man those other schools in district must be LOADED.  Thanks for making me realize how wrong I was.  What would I know about talent or recruiting.  I only played 4 years of college ball myself.  I'll never assume again. [/quote] Nothing you said was in my post.. smh. Continue to show the world just how much you don't know.

[quote name="knows2much" post="1282306" timestamp="1348664169"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1282178#msg1282178 date=1348624335] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=103661.msg1281772#msg1281772 date=1348595530] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=103661.msg1281627#msg1281627 date=1348587974] Really though.  Is that really his only offer?  That has to be a disappointment for his family since they uprooted to get him recruited.  He could've snagged that offer from Liberty.  (and the panthers might have scored a few td's this year with him.) [/quote] Only real offer?..  really?  UL Monroe is a D1 football program that just beat the #8 team in the country (Arkansas).  And then played ANOTHER SEC school to a 3 point loss (Auburn). Yeah what a disappointment.  His family should be ashamed that he was offered a free education to a school that beat an SEC school on national television.  What were they thinking? This is the real world guys.  Nobody cares how much a community does for your kid when it comes down to somebody that can do better.  If Fitz stayed at Liberty, no offer from a D1 school and most likely another missed trip to the playoffs. Several years ago a kid named Tony Bua left Liberty his senior yr for greener grass (after spending his entire life in Liberty).  Then played 4 years at Arkansas...then played several seasons in the NFL.  Should his parents also be "ashamed"?..  I don't think so. [/quote] Fitz basically had offers from Tech and SMU while down here.. not official yet, but I'm sure they're still around. [/quote] I think you may be confusing "offer" and recruitment letter.  I guarantee you that nobody from Liberty high school was offered anything from Texas Tech University for any type of athletics.  By the way...schools send out about 30,000 letters a year to kids that have any amount of size or talent.  That does not mean offer.  The kid's parents made the right decision this time.  I'm sure Fitz thinks so too. [/quote] Actually I'm well aware of the difference between a general interest letter and an offer, and you can't guarantee me anything. Except that you have no idea and are just assuming things. Ask Neal Brown.. smh at the hate on Liberty.

[quote name="knows2much" post="1281772" timestamp="1348595530"] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=103661.msg1281627#msg1281627 date=1348587974] Really though.  Is that really his only offer?  That has to be a disappointment for his family since they uprooted to get him recruited.  He could've snagged that offer from Liberty.  (and the panthers might have scored a few td's this year with him.) [/quote] Only real offer?..  really?  UL Monroe is a D1 football program that just beat the #8 team in the country (Arkansas).  And then played ANOTHER SEC school to a 3 point loss (Auburn). Yeah what a disappointment.  His family should be ashamed that he was offered a free education to a school that beat an SEC school on national television.  What were they thinking? This is the real world guys.  Nobody cares how much a community does for your kid when it comes down to somebody that can do better.  If Fitz stayed at Liberty, no offer from a D1 school and most likely another missed trip to the playoffs. Several years ago a kid named Tony Bua left Liberty his senior yr for greener grass (after spending his entire life in Liberty).  Then played 4 years at Arkansas...then played several seasons in the NFL.  Should his parents also be "ashamed"?..  I don't think so. [/quote] Fitz basically had offers from Tech and SMU while down here.. not official yet, but I'm sure they're still around.

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1281628" timestamp="1348588097"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=103661.msg1281454#msg1281454 date=1348573014] [quote author=wbfan link=topic=103661.msg1281414#msg1281414 date=1348549057] His only offer so far is from UL-Monroe. It's already a step up from Liberty. [/quote] Talking ish about liberty boosts your self-esteem or something? Sad. [/quote] BTW Hookem, we have found common ground, so dont' take this the wrong way, but why are you so adament about supporting a kid who left Liberty high and dry?  His family moving him like they did is, in my opinion, dispicable.  They showed no regard for his teammates or the community who welcomed him a few years ago.  Seems like you'd feel burnt over this and not be promoting him the way you do.  Just curious. [/quote] I can't blame a kid whose parents made a decision. Not sure if wanted to go or not but regardless I just like to see people I know/know of do well.

[quote name="wbfan" post="1281414" timestamp="1348549057"] His only offer so far is from UL-Monroe. It's already a step up from Liberty. [/quote] Talking ish about liberty boosts your self-esteem or something? Sad.

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[quote name="1KatKiller" post="1280804" timestamp="1348509593"] fallen on hard times??...how is this season any different than any of the others since Deel has been there? [/quote] 0-4 so far.. 7-3 last season