PAMFAM10

why didn't I see any straight man kissing his wife/girlfriend when they got drafted.....where was that at....did it not happen or did it happen and media didn't want to show it......there's your proof where the media stands

Sam knew the camera's were on him.....

media also showed a kid propose to his girlfriend after he was drafted so....

What were the facts of this case huh
...so your saying you would have no problem with someone following your son with a gun on them because he believes your son is a threat.

one thing we know is Martin jumped on the wrong man!

Did you see Martin jump on Zimmerman why were you not called to testify

If Zimmerman did to your child what he did to Martin how would you feel.

It is extremely convenient that you completely ignore any of the actual gathered evidence to draw your conclusion. Of course that is your right of free thought but making up things seems to take away most of the credibility.

tell me that Zimmerman and trayvon confrontation wasn't do to Zimmerman thinking martin was in the wrong.

I saw it as a thread about a football player. But you apparently see it as a thread to label a football player as a gay, black man. So i should refer to Romo as an overrated Italian with gay tendencies. That's just how I see him.

you cant say Michael sam without saying gay I only brought his race in a convo with nash.....I hate the Cowboys but I wouldn't say romo has gay tendencies ....he stay with woman...wait nevermind.

I doubt that any pro player relies on government. You simply don't understand my point and lets leave it at that. I am one of those guys who refuses to be bullied into" proving" that he is not racist because I resent the "
assumption" that I am and that I have to say or do something to prove I am not. Yes, this thread is about a gay black who was drafted into the NFL. However, some posted their feelings( not me) that it doesn't need to be "shoved down their throat" by the media. Do you "get" that?

if I don't understand I ask multiple times for a explanation. Maybe you just have nothing to say on it. I dont bully at all I just started how I felt the same way you did...it's just opinions.

Lets no act like this gay rights movement is not happening he's the first openly gay football player thats huge and news worthy considering how torn the u.s. is on this issue.

WHy didn't the jury come to that conclusion?

same reason they found oj innocent.

this is a tread for a gay black man. And you posted that crap. Are you saying the media doesn't cover whites who fear god and don't rely on government. Im Curious Peyton Manning Tom Brady Tony Romo get covered move than any other nfl player.

Sarcasm or not it was racist now stop dodging my question. ..Reason for previous post.

Are you saying I will be turned down if I try to buy the LA Clippers?

Explain the purpose for your previous post.

And I see a black teen was bouncing a Hispanics head off the ground and he got tired of it! jmo

Nobody knows what happened.what we do no is Zimmerman profiled Martin.

If there any guys that were drafted who are white, straight, believe in God, do not expect the government to take care of them, and do not view themselves as victims, I would like to offer my congratulations to them for making it in spite of very difficult circumstances.

your damn racist.

Congrats Michael Sam

yes i do. You guys were listening to him when he said George was not a racist.

this case was about race a innocent black teen who wasn't doing anything wrong was profiled because he was black. The terms of events all started because Zimmerman seen a black guy in his neighborhood. And decided to take care of it himself.

you may want to look up the history of how this country came about......and why people left Europe to come here and start a new life and finally create their own governing body and to get out from under the British thumb.

History is a great teacher.

Don't get me started

Still no reason has been put forth as a reason not to ban ak47s like guns.

The democratic way! Any black republican can not be a serious candidate or top member in the party. Just a bunch of Uncle Toms. At least the dems are the compassionate party and hope everyone can achieve their greatest potential...as long as that potential is what they tell you it is.

when did I say this. .. Shut up and name me a top republican nominee.

Ok smitty you won me over but you wont change my mind about stricken gun laws. If you ever watch the first 48 the suspects always have multiple gun charges. Why is he even on the streets.

There are no top Republicans ...at least not serious presidential candidates.

I am not trying to be silly but that is a popular misconception repeated time and time again.

Rifles like an AK or AR have a huge advantage over handguns and that is range. Someone that is good with an AR can kill you at a quarter of a mile and that is with open sights. Their fault lies in them being very large as compared to handguns, weigh a good bit more and the ammo/magazines are generally huge and they are more difficult to reload. It is almost impossible to conceal such a weapon.

Almost all of the shootings with these so called "assault" rifles are at extremely close range of a few feet away, not up to hundreds of feet. In early 1991 I was giving a talk to the Lions Club or Optimist or one of the other service organizations. During my short talk I was questioned about "assault" rifles and shooting the San Ysidro McDonald's shooting (21 murdered) was brought up. I told them that the rifle in that situation was not a better weapon and someone in the future was going to wreak more havoc with a handgun. You could carry 100 rounds or more in handgun magazines in a single front pocket of some jeans. It was only a matter of time and a good person can reload in slightly over a second. The media created fear of rifles in mass shootings was for the most part unfounded in my opinion. They are certainly deadly but at a few feet, unnecessary and many times a hindrance to the shooter.

A few weeks later we had the Luby's shooting in Killeen. He shot 43 people and killed 23 in what was at the time the most deadly spree killing in US history while only armed with 9mm pistols. I kind of wanted to go back to the service club and say, "I told you so".

That was later trumped by the VA Tech shootings when 32 people were killed.... again with handguns only and one of them was the tiny .22 round which is more thought of as a tiny and low power practice round and maybe squirrel hunting, an animal which weighs generally less than a pound.

Those were the two most deadly shootings in US history without the need for the dreaded assault rifle as the shooters were not killing people 100-400 yards away. But wait, we move on to Sandy Hook that was the second most people killed 26 people (replacing Luby's) at the school with a rifle but all at almost point blank range. That means a handgun would have been just as deadly if not more so with the usually shorter reloading time.

Until we start having mass murders at 100 yards or more, the idea of rifles being the more serious culprit seem to be misplaced seeing that 2 of the 3 deadliest shootings have been with handguns and the 3rd could have just as well been so.

That fact is that very few people are ever killed with AK or AR style rifles in an average year in the USA. From the federal government CDC stats, of the 11,000 or so firearm homicides a year, the average of the years since the Clinton assault weapon ban expired in 2004 is 48 murders per year from "assault weapons". That means that if you took away these dreaded and scary looking weapons, it would have no bearing on 99.6% of firearms murders. And even that is assuming that the less than 0.4% that did happen with an assault weapon, they shooter simply could not have opted for a less scary weapon to commit the same crime.

Simply repeating the mantra that assault weapons are the problem simply is not true and the statistics including those from the federal government back that up.

But they sure are scary looking..............

Dude you no how fast a ak47 can fire compared to a normal hand gun how much rounds you can let out before reloading. Your right you can do damage with about anything. But still no reason has been said why not to ban them. Just a bunch of this and that. Im pretty sure the guy who made ak47s m16s etc. Made them for warfare.

Completely repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate all gun or be prepared to respond to it once it happens. Even the confiscation won't stop it as it doesn't take many guns to get through for it to happen.

Just recently a kid with a knife stabbed several people. One of the biggest terror attacks on a school was at Beslan when fire bombs killed more than 160 mostly children. Until we ban gasoline and any other assorted every day items, we cannot stop someone from mass killings. In fact the deadly school killing in the USA was not a shooting but a bombing and not in recent history but way back in 1927 in Bath, Michigan.

You cannot stop a person dedicated at carnage.

If you go back to the very beginning of this thread I said the same thing it's no way to stop a person who make a Decision to kill.

Towards gays or italians? Gays call themselves gay, so that can't be a degrading slur. I guess mafia is offensive?

if Obama called the top Republicans in Congress the white mafia. ..Still ok with it.

So just curious what should we do to stop mass shootings not just in schools.