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I'm kind of curious about this one from a legal view. The driver of the ATV that hit and killed a little boy in Terrell Park is in jail on warrants, but not charged with a crime in this yet. People are screaming for justice, but BPD is taking their time with interviews, and I'm assuming bloodwork, before filing any charges in the accident. I have a feeling that depending on the circumstances, people aren't going to be happy with "justice" if it's determined that the ATV rider was sober and that he was driving responsibly and the kid caused the accident by running in front of him. There are "No ATV" signs in the park, but this could still add up to be basically just a tragic traffic accident.

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any updates on this one?

definitely not written by the superintendent...

The most important this is that it's a long weekend, right? (Sarcasm, just in case that wasn't clear)

Just spent 30 minutes reading this thread. I don't have any connection to BH (other than Don Price's son being a good buddy in college), and don't care if they win or lose, but found this topic interesting. Yall keep me updated

Personally I wouldn't have had any problem either instance with them being shot. I guess I'm different than some, but I would expect capitol police to have a lower threshold for lethal force when people are actively rioting and trying to enter chambers where politicians are located (although I understand they've yet to release their use of force policy). I would expect for capitol police to shoot if BLM activists were trying to breach a room where Trump was located. But who knows. I don't disagree with anyone that there's a double standard in these instances. But that said, just because there would've been outrage if roles and races were different doesn't mean that I have an issue with this lady getting shot. I thought officers showed a lot of restraint overall. Someone getting shot is a pretty predictable outcome when an angry mob breaches the capital, breaks out windows and tries to enter chambers where sitting members of the house and senate are being protected by capitol police.

Congrats!

I don't think many of them actually believed it. People let plenty slide when it's "their guy."

Very cool accomplishment!

He denied it long enough to get into office, and now will face no repercussions.

Sure, it should be legal, but there are very few if, any, areas of law were there aren't "ifs and buts".

You're not getting me, you're getting the law.

But as the law often shows, different standards and outcomes occur in different situations. For example, if I break down your door and kill you, I'm charged with murder. If you break down MY door and I kill you, although the outcome is exactly the same, I'm charged with nothing. The same holds true for abortion vs. murdering a woman and her fetus. So while it's a legal issue, as you say, abortion falls on the legal side of the issue, while murdering a pregnant woman is illegal.

As i've stated earlier in this thread, I'm not a fan of abortion, but the threshold where I personally feel it should be illegal is when the baby could be viable outside of the womb. so around 18-20 weeks, even though the odds of survival outside of the womb at that point are almost nil. That gives a mother time to realize she's pregnant before the opportunity make a choice runs out, while preventing a baby which could possibly survive on it's own from being killed. An exception for anything later than that would be for health risks to the mother only.

great win!

This is the crux of the issue entirely. And it's been determined by the high courts that abortion is a moral issue rather than a legal one, although obviously some states are challenging that.

I literally said "That doesn't mean it's okay" in the very short post that you quoted when asking this question.

Would “breaking and entering” be the crime she would’ve/could’ve been charged with here?

I think it wasn’t a crime when it was legal. That doesn’t mean it was “ok.” The difference is that, as society progressed, your examples were made illegal, while abortion was made legal (during very conservative times, it’s worth mentioning)

Romans 13?

It's not a crime in my eyes because the law says it isn't. I do believe it's sin, but there's lot of sin that we all do that isn't criminal.

I totally get all this, and honestly don't have a big disagreement with any of it.

I know it may seem like I'm some big proponent of abortion. It's not something that I like, but it's legal, and making it illegal would cause tremendous problems that most conservatives want to gloss over or ignore. It's very easy for a bunch of men to sit around and talk about what a woman should have to do with her own body and what's in it. It's also easy when we don't ever have to worry about accidently getting pregnant, or getting raped and getting pregnant, or having birth control fail and getting pregnant, or getting pregnant and having it cause life-threatening medical issues. My wife has a friend who had a bunch of abortions. She'd just get knocked up every year or two and then go terminate it. I lost all respect for her because of it. That said, I have a friend who's 15-year-old got pregnant, and they chose to terminate it. I looked at it differently.

So when does life begin? Catholics believe it's a sin to use birth control. Is it murder if you take a pill to kill your eggs? If you wear a rubber and keep your boys from swimming? What about when you spend a little time with yourself? Just curious? Do you have a problem with the morning after pill?